Post by: Born2late on March 10, 2021, 09:24:05 PM
Post by: GWP on March 10, 2021, 10:31:09 PM
That said, we usually, on dogs and ourselves, use tweezers, get a hold as close to the skin as possible, and just put pressure on them. No jerking or excessive squeezing. They will pop out pretty quickly without leaving mouth parts.
Post by: jackelope on March 10, 2021, 10:59:19 PM
You gotta be careful when extracting them that you don’t pop their heads off while they’re still embedded.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on March 10, 2021, 11:03:56 PM
Post by: HillHound on March 10, 2021, 11:24:13 PM
Post by: buckcanyonlodge on March 11, 2021, 04:50:43 AM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on March 11, 2021, 05:41:05 AM
Post by: GWP on March 11, 2021, 06:17:43 AM
Woke up and felt something stuck to my collar bone area and yanked it out by hand...Here is what was left. Sore for days. Had kind off a bullseye around it. Sent pics to Doc..she said don't worry about it. It will go away.
Had a deer tick in my belly button and had a big bullseye. Doc said the same. No real definitive test for Lyme, so what are they going to say? Wait to see if you get really sick I guess. It would be nice if some of the crap I endure every day that is 'probably' old age could be treated and make it go away, but who knows?
Post by: huntingfool7 on March 11, 2021, 06:38:53 AM
Grab them as close to the skin as possible and slowly twist. Take another hold and repeat until they come out. I prefer to use my fingers as tweazers can/will damage the tick. I only use tweazers if they are too small to get my sandwich clamps on them.
Post by: 71Shovelhead on March 11, 2021, 08:15:59 AM
Home remedies, wives tales, misunderstands, misinterpretations can and do cause as many or more problems than the original problem.
Terry
Might be fun to start a thread about wives tales, and urban legions for treatment and management of common situations that have been proven wrong along with the correct way to manage it. Just because you mom, granddad, or whomever told you it was a good idea doesn't mean it is.
Post by: Sandberm on March 11, 2021, 08:25:18 AM
Been waiting for that first tick of the spring but i haven't been in the right dog walking spots yet I guess.
Post by: GWP on March 11, 2021, 08:32:28 AM
That is the best example of tick removal I have ever seen. Couple of points. There ARE tests for Lymes disease (check out CDC web site), DO NOT put hot matches or cigarettes on the tick, the burn to the soft tissue surrounding the tick is more problematic than the bite itself. No need to put anything on the tick. They do not DRILL or Bore into the skin. Their heads DO NOT break off the mouth parts do, When removing a tick try not to crush it or break it, they can excrete contents in to the wound.
Home remedies, wives tales, misunderstands, misinterpretations can and do cause as many or more problems than the original problem.
Terry
Might be fun to start a thread about wives tales, and urban legions for treatment and management of common situations that have been proven wrong along with the correct way to manage it. Just because you mom, granddad, or whomever told you it was a good idea doesn't mean it is.
While there are tests, they are not conclusive or definitive. It is still more or less ‘If we can’t find anything else, must be that.’
It has to be VERY active for it to be found, and it hibernates or hides like other viruses do.
Post by: Mtnwalker on March 11, 2021, 08:38:49 AM
Post by: GWP on March 11, 2021, 08:48:41 AM
Unfortunately most regular GP's don't know enough about Lyme disease to accurately diagnose or treat it. If you think you might have it, you should do the research and see a specialist who is up to date on the latest testing.
Been there, done that. If you know of someone from personal experience please post it.
Post by: Mtnwalker on March 11, 2021, 09:01:31 AM
Unfortunately most regular GP's don't know enough about Lyme disease to accurately diagnose or treat it. If you think you might have it, you should do the research and see a specialist who is up to date on the latest testing.
Been there, done that. If you know of someone from personal experience please post it.
Have a family member who's been battling with it for over 30 years, it's taken quite the toll on her. I don't know which doctors she's seeing at this point but I could definitely do some asking. Can't remember which podcast it was a while back but it was a lyme specialist explaining the various testing methods and why most GP's just aren't equipped to properly diagnose it. Made a lot of sense and sounds like a lot of people who have it are probably told they don't by their dr. I'm not claiming to be an expert by any means, just urging people not to take their ol' family doc's diagnosis as the final word.
Post by: jackelope on March 11, 2021, 09:02:35 AM
That is the best example of tick removal I have ever seen. Couple of points. There ARE tests for Lymes disease (check out CDC web site), DO NOT put hot matches or cigarettes on the tick, the burn to the soft tissue surrounding the tick is more problematic than the bite itself. No need to put anything on the tick. They do not DRILL or Bore into the skin. Their heads DO NOT break off the mouth parts do, When removing a tick try not to crush it or break it, they can excrete contents in to the wound.
Home remedies, wives tales, misunderstands, misinterpretations can and do cause as many or more problems than the original problem.
Terry
Might be fun to start a thread about wives tales, and urban legions for treatment and management of common situations that have been proven wrong along with the correct way to manage it. Just because you mom, granddad, or whomever told you it was a good idea doesn't mean it is.
I guess I'm not sure I want to say I doubt what you're saying but I grew up back east where deer ticks are a real thing and concern and I've done the match thing several times with no ill effect to myself or others... I don't burn myself...just touch the tick. :dunno:
Post by: JJB11B on March 11, 2021, 09:14:45 AM
Post by: HikerHunter on March 11, 2021, 09:29:06 AM
Unfortunately most regular GP's don't know enough about Lyme disease to accurately diagnose or treat it. If you think you might have it, you should do the research and see a specialist who is up to date on the latest testing.
Been there, done that. If you know of someone from personal experience please post it.
Have a family member who's been battling with it for over 30 years, it's taken quite the toll on her. I don't know which doctors she's seeing at this point but I could definitely do some asking. Can't remember which podcast it was a while back but it was a lyme specialist explaining the various testing methods and why most GP's just aren't equipped to properly diagnose it. Made a lot of sense and sounds like a lot of people who have it are probably told they don't by their dr. I'm not claiming to be an expert by any means, just urging people not to take their ol' family doc's diagnosis as the final word.
My sister-in-law was misdiagnosed for about 10 years by lots of different doctors. After all sorts of tests and bloodwork, she pretty much self-diagnosed it with the same information the doctors had.
Post by: 71Shovelhead on March 11, 2021, 09:40:31 AM
I'm very sure that is true for you. However people have very different skill levels and common sense isn't always common. Matches, hot needles, cigarette, cigars, all can and have left there marks where well meaning, good intended people have made a simple situation much worse.
I have treated and seen some nasty examples. Same with putting who knows what chemicals on the little buggers.
I once was involved in a situation where a woman had head lice and the plan was to wash her head and hair with Coleman fuel. Important safety tip "don't smoke during this procedure". (Not a urban legion I can still pull the report)
Somewhat like drinking while reloading. What could go wrong!
If people had common sense and used it I wouldn't have had such a long and colorful career.
Terry
Post by: GWP on March 11, 2021, 10:18:05 AM
I once was involved in a situation where a woman had head lice and the plan was to wash her head and hair with Coleman fuel. Important safety tip "don't smoke during this procedure". (Not a urban legion I can still pull the report)
Somewhat like drinking while reloading. What could go wrong!
If people had common sense and used it I wouldn't have had such a long and colorful career.
Terry
And putting an electric heater UNDER the reloading bench where they are sitting. That fire happens every year. Like Big Joe says, “Come on, man!”
Or Biff, “Think McFly! Think!” :chuckle:
Post by: Pegasus on March 11, 2021, 11:11:57 AM
Woke up and felt something stuck to my collar bone area and yanked it out by hand...Here is what was left. Sore for days. Had kind off a bullseye around it. Sent pics to Doc..she said don't worry about it. It will go away.
Tick bites with a bulleye are a sign of possible Lyme disease. Better get tested.
Post by: Pegasus on March 11, 2021, 11:28:16 AM
Unfortunately most regular GP's don't know enough about Lyme disease to accurately diagnose or treat it. If you think you might have it, you should do the research and see a specialist who is up to date on the latest testing.
Been there, done that. If you know of someone from personal experience please post it.
Years ago after several tick bites I came down with all of the symptoms of Lyme disease. I was negative for testing. A few years later since I was still suffering and my doc said the tests had improved so he tested me again. I still tested negative. Some more years passed and I read an article about using the tincture of teasel and it cleared up my symptoms. Teasel is the spikey weed growing in most of our wetlands. My sister, who actually tested positive for Lyme, gave it a try and her symptoms disappeared after suffering for years. Not medical advice but it works for some. Your doc will never recommend it cause it is not a Big Pharma $1000 treatment nor is it approved by the FDA. Do a search and you can find the info and the product.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on March 11, 2021, 11:43:26 AM
Post by: Pegasus on March 11, 2021, 12:44:05 PM
Everyone's a doctor thanks to the internet
Do you think that is a bad thing since our medical system is compromised by Big Pharma and captive regulators like the FDA and the CDC and our medical schools teach healing can only be done by drugs (mostly high-priced) and surgery? I have had several doctors that had I taken their "medical advice" i would have died many years ago. Not saying all docs are incompetent as several have also saved my life but it pays to educate yourself especially against such a profit motivated industry with little reqard for your health. Dr Fauci comes to mind. The teasel worked for me when more than a few docs could not.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on March 11, 2021, 01:15:36 PM
Post by: Sandberm on March 11, 2021, 01:28:52 PM
Post by: Caseyd on March 11, 2021, 02:26:35 PM
A second medical opinion on most anything is a good idea.
Post by: dilleytech on March 13, 2021, 06:26:08 AM
Post by: buckcanyonlodge on March 13, 2021, 09:16:24 AM
Post by: Pegasus on March 13, 2021, 09:54:23 AM
The Manly way to get a tick off is to put a berm of Vaseline on your skin around the tick . Gunpowder will stick to the Vaseline. Use a very liberal amount of gunpowder...enough to make it look like a black circle around the tick. Touch the gunpowder with a lit match....WALLA...the tick comes off with the scab a few days later
If you used that method that is probably why you have a bullseye around the bite. A classic tell sign for Lyme disease. Ticks take time to poison you with Lyme and the longer that scab remains the better chance they have to spread the disease even if dead. We used to use Wite-Out on the tick which dries quickly and the solvent irritates the tick for quick removal. Rubbing alcohol works good especially with some citrus oil mixed with it.
Post by: shootem on March 13, 2021, 12:32:49 PM
Post by: Pegasus on March 13, 2021, 12:46:34 PM
Post by: buckcanyonlodge on March 13, 2021, 01:03:56 PM
Post by: Pegasus on March 13, 2021, 01:24:00 PM
My daughter is an R.N. and she says GET TESTED DAD...that is her shouting. probably have to address next time I'm at the dr. By the way...that was the only tick that has ever bitten in to me EVER...and I've had hundreds on me.
Do NOT wait. Early treatment can save you a whole bunch of nightmares for years which won't go away easily. Guess which one was the only symptom I never had:
Bullseye rash
Severe headaches and neck stiffness
Arthritis, especially in the knees or other large joints
Muscle aches and pains
Heart palpitations or shortness of breath (Lyme carditis)
Facial paralysis on one or both sides (also known as Bell’s palsy)
Numbness or tingling in the hands or feet
Extreme fatigue
Neurologic features including vertigo or dizziness
Difficulty sleeping
Mental fogginess
Post by: dilleytech on March 14, 2021, 07:26:59 AM
The Manly way to get a tick off is to put a berm of Vaseline on your skin around the tick . Gunpowder will stick to the Vaseline. Use a very liberal amount of gunpowder...enough to make it look like a black circle around the tick. Touch the gunpowder with a lit match....WALLA...the tick comes off with the scab a few days later
These kind of techniques are how you get lime disease. Anything that kills the tick or heats the tick up is bad news. Just pull the thing out.
Post by: 71Shovelhead on March 14, 2021, 07:54:55 AM
The Manly way to get a tick off is to put a berm of Vaseline on your skin around the tick . Gunpowder will stick to the Vaseline. Use a very liberal amount of gunpowder...enough to make it look like a black circle around the tick. Touch the gunpowder with a lit match....WALLA...the tick comes off with the scab a few days later
And if someone suffers a snake bite be sure to "cut a big deep X through the bite site and suck to venom out" :bdid:
and if someone suffers a burn "cover it with axle grease" to stop the pain :bdid:
need I say more :chuckle:
Post by: jackelope on March 14, 2021, 10:38:25 AM
The Manly way to get a tick off is to put a berm of Vaseline on your skin around the tick . Gunpowder will stick to the Vaseline. Use a very liberal amount of gunpowder...enough to make it look like a black circle around the tick. Touch the gunpowder with a lit match....WALLA...the tick comes off with the scab a few days later
These kind of techniques are how you get lime disease. Anything that kills the tick or heats the tick up is bad news. Just pull the thing out.
Pretty sure he was being funny. I mean the tick would definitely come off with the scab I guess but ...
Post by: buckcanyonlodge on March 14, 2021, 10:58:42 AM
The Manly way to get a tick off is to put a berm of Vaseline on your skin around the tick . Gunpowder will stick to the Vaseline. Use a very liberal amount of gunpowder...enough to make it look like a black circle around the tick. Touch the gunpowder with a lit match....WALLA...the tick comes off with the scab a few days later
These kind of techniques are how you get lime disease. Anything that kills the tick or heats the tick up is bad news. Just pull the thing out.
Do you really think someone would do that?. Really?
Post by: Ridgeratt on March 14, 2021, 11:00:54 AM
The Manly way to get a tick off is to put a berm of Vaseline on your skin around the tick . Gunpowder will stick to the Vaseline. Use a very liberal amount of gunpowder...enough to make it look like a black circle around the tick. Touch the gunpowder with a lit match....WALLA...the tick comes off with the scab a few days later
These kind of techniques are how you get lime disease. Anything that kills the tick or heats the tick up is bad news. Just pull the thing out.
Do you really think someone would do that?. Really?
Nothing should surprise you anymore.
Post by: buckcanyonlodge on March 14, 2021, 11:04:27 AM
Post by: one more on March 14, 2021, 12:23:53 PM
That was in the '80s. They gave me IV medication for a long time.
Get tested. Even now I wonder if my symptoms are related. Or maybe it's 'cause I'm old--er.
Diane
Post by: dilleytech on March 14, 2021, 12:52:39 PM
The Manly way to get a tick off is to put a berm of Vaseline on your skin around the tick . Gunpowder will stick to the Vaseline. Use a very liberal amount of gunpowder...enough to make it look like a black circle around the tick. Touch the gunpowder with a lit match....WALLA...the tick comes off with the scab a few days later
These kind of techniques are how you get lime disease. Anything that kills the tick or heats the tick up is bad news. Just pull the thing out.
Pretty sure he was being funny. I mean the tick would definitely come off with the scab I guess but ...
Idk a lot of people are givin bad advise on tick extraction and they do it and spread that info online. Just get tweezers and pull them out a little at a time. It’s not complicated.
Post by: 71Shovelhead on March 14, 2021, 02:20:44 PM
I hope you realize that I was playing along with you. If not I truly apologize. It was very clear to me that you were not being serious.
Terry
Post by: GWP on March 14, 2021, 03:31:32 PM
I also heard baring the ends of a 110 cord and putting one bare end on each side of the tick while plugged in will work as well! Really! It will work! I am sure!
Post by: buckcanyonlodge on March 14, 2021, 04:20:33 PM
buckcanyonlodge,
I hope you realize that I was playing along with you. If not I truly apologize. It was very clear to me that you were not being serious.
Terry
No problem man..sometimes I don't know if my warped sense of humor is taken the wrong way. Thanks!! Rick
Post by: jackelope on March 15, 2021, 07:10:00 PM
Hey! Rambo fixed a hole through himself with bloody gunpowder so we all know that was true! I am sure it will work!Listen. This is 2021. Please be careful.
I also heard baring the ends of a 110 cord and putting one bare end on each side of the tick while plugged in will work as well! Really! It will work! I am sure!
:yike:
Post by: KFhunter on March 15, 2021, 07:24:45 PM
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Post by: konradcountry on March 16, 2021, 03:04:39 PM
Everyone's a doctor thanks to the internet
LOL
Lyme disease is actually extremely rare in our state. That is probably why his doc wasn't worried.
Most people here get it from traveling. It's more of an east coast problem.
Our ticks don't normally carry it.
https://www.cdc.gov/lyme/datasurveillance/maps-recent.html
But definitely take the bug spray when turkey hunting.
Post by: JJB11B on March 18, 2021, 06:29:22 AM
My Mom got Lyme disease when she was young. apparently it still affects her occasionally, she's not one to whine so you don't hear about itEveryone's a doctor thanks to the internet
LOL
Lyme disease is actually extremely rare in our state. That is probably why his doc wasn't worried.
Most people here get it from traveling. It's more of an east coast problem.
Our ticks don't normally carry it.
https://www.cdc.gov/lyme/datasurveillance/maps-recent.html
But definitely take the bug spray when turkey hunting.
Post by: Pegasus on March 18, 2021, 08:12:59 AM
Post by: konradcountry on March 19, 2021, 09:07:45 AM
Yea the symptoms can be random and they miss it all the time.
If you get bit you can send the tick in to have it tested.
Most cases are on the west side but I would guess that is from out of state traveling.
Post by: KFhunter on March 19, 2021, 09:20:10 AM
They're up and crawling, even though we were tromping through snow with bare patches.
Went ahead and treated the dogs with tick prevention oil on their shoulders.
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