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Title: Toyota Quality
Post by: thinkingman on March 12, 2021, 10:29:38 AM
Instead of hijacking the Highlander thread, I'll start my own to provide PROOF (or as Ben Shapiro would say 'Facts don't have feelings).
If you're a Biden voter, or just want to FEEL Toyota cars and trucks are amazing, this isn't the thread for you.


Let's proceed (Caution! This will trigger some of you!)
https://www.motorbiscuit.com/avoid-these-used-toyota-tacoma-models-unless-you-love-rust/ (https://www.motorbiscuit.com/avoid-these-used-toyota-tacoma-models-unless-you-love-rust/)

In November 2012, Toyota recalled 150,000 Tacomas from 2001–2004 for a rusted spare-tire carrier under the bed that could break and cause the tire to come loose. In 2008, Toyota’s infamous frame-rot fiasco on 1995–2004 Tacomas (about 800,000 trucks) was so bad the company had to buy many of them back, conduct extensive frame repairs, and/or extend frame-corrosion warranties by 15 years. The company never issued a recall for that problem.
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: Mtnwalker on March 12, 2021, 10:47:35 AM
Had a 2000 Tacoma TRD for 16 years that I tried my hardest to break, especially back in my younger days. (In high school we once jumped it over 80 feet, the landing caused the front of the bed to cave in the back of the cab quite a bit from the flex) definitely no frame rot in that bad boy  :chuckle:

My BIL did buy one a few years ago that had extensive frame rot covered up by a shotty dealership, certainly there are bad batches of almost any brand out there (you should see the amount of recalls you get in the mail for owning a Dodge!)

But there are also millions of absolutely bulletproof Toyotas out there that have withstood many many years of abuse that a vehicle should never have to withstand such as mine  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: Platensek-po on March 12, 2021, 10:50:50 AM
Had a 2000 Tacoma TRD for 16 years that I tried my hardest to break, especially back in my younger days. (In high school we once jumped it over 80 feet, the landing caused the front of the bed to cave in the back of the cab quite a bit from the flex) definitely no frame rot in that bad boy  :chuckle:

My BIL did buy one a few years ago that had extensive frame rot covered up by a shotty dealership, certainly there are bad batches of almost any brand out there (you should see the amount of recalls you get in the mail for owning a Dodge!)

But there are also millions of absolutely bulletproof Toyotas out there that have withstood many many years of abuse that a vehicle should never have to withstand such as mine  :chuckle:

Yeah I was gunna say that most vehicles have a recall of some kind. You can find all the recalls for vehicles online. The 2020 Tacoma had 1 recall and the 2020 F150 had 9.
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: thinkingman on March 12, 2021, 10:51:56 AM
Hope you didn't want a truck when you bought it!

The Rago Fabrication Toyota Tundra Bed Channel Stiffeners solve a known problem that Tundra's acquire over time. If you have a camper shell, bed rack, or use your Tundra to off-road frequently, the rear sheet metal channels are known to crack overtime because of added stress and weight to the vehicle.

https://youtu.be/glPAW6C6JHQ (https://youtu.be/glPAW6C6JHQ)
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: thinkingman on March 12, 2021, 10:54:24 AM
Had a 2000 Tacoma TRD for 16 years that I tried my hardest to break, especially back in my younger days. (In high school we once jumped it over 80 feet, the landing caused the front of the bed to cave in the back of the cab quite a bit from the flex) definitely no frame rot in that bad boy  :chuckle:

My BIL did buy one a few years ago that had extensive frame rot covered up by a shotty dealership, certainly there are bad batches of almost any brand out there (you should see the amount of recalls you get in the mail for owning a Dodge!)

But there are also millions of absolutely bulletproof Toyotas out there that have withstood many many years of abuse that a vehicle should never have to withstand such as mine  :chuckle:

How many 'trucks' that fanboyz drool over have COLLAPSING FRAMES AND LEAF SPRINGS?

This isn't like the massager in the seat stopped working.
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: thinkingman on March 12, 2021, 11:02:57 AM
Notice the mandatory foglights for driving in traffic in the suburbs.
Whenever I see over-wattage blue LEDs scattering into oncoming traffic, it's a Toyota 'LOOK AT ME!' driver.

https://youtu.be/7gfPL0e1IIY (https://youtu.be/7gfPL0e1IIY)
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: Mtnwalker on March 12, 2021, 11:09:06 AM
Notice the mandatory foglights for driving in traffic in the suburbs.
Whenever I see over-wattage blue LEDs scattering into oncoming traffic, it's a Toyota 'LOOK AT ME!' driver.

https://youtu.be/7gfPL0e1IIY (https://youtu.be/7gfPL0e1IIY)

Certainly this is irrefutable proof that all Toyotas are garbage  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: Stein on March 12, 2021, 11:38:09 AM
LEDs for vehicles are bright white.  Xenon bulbs are blue.

LEDs also have a tighter beam pattern than filaments.

If they shine in eyes, it’s an adjustment issue, simply adjust the housing as required by any bulb replacement other than like in kind.


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Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: full choke on March 12, 2021, 11:43:44 AM
Hope you didn't want a truck when you bought it!

The Rago Fabrication Toyota Tundra Bed Channel Stiffeners solve a known problem that Tundra's acquire over time. If you have a camper shell, bed rack, or use your Tundra to off-road frequently, the rear sheet metal channels are known to crack overtime because of added stress and weight to the vehicle.

https://youtu.be/glPAW6C6JHQ (https://youtu.be/glPAW6C6JHQ)

I own a Tacoma. Care to share where I can get those ultra bright lights? Seems to me, it is a pain in the azz to change out my current stock lights to LEDs. Mine is a 2006 stock model.

Oh- lighten up a bit.
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on March 12, 2021, 12:10:25 PM
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Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: Alchase on March 12, 2021, 12:12:52 PM
I have to be honest, I have never owned a Toyota.
I do own a 2016 Nissan Frontier, and after test driving all of the available midsized trucks in 2018. The Honda Ridgeline was "by far the most comfortable", best layed out ergonomically, and with the most current accessories.
I thought the worst driving and most gutless was the Tacoma. The Brand new Toyota's transmission was a shifting nightmare and was gutless compared to the 2016 Nissan.
(not that the Nissan changed much in the previous 10 years)
But The Tacoma was the best looking truck in the bunch.
I bought the Nissan because it was third best driving, behind the Chev ZR2
 and the Honda (the base line Chevy/GMC were not close but ahead of the Toyota). The New Ford Ranger was a tie for third.
These are opinions and are totally subjective.
And I am not saying the Tacoma is bad vehicle, and if the Leaf Springs are the only things to worry about? They would still be a very good truck.

Honestly, what is beyond belief, is that people pay $40k + for any of these trucks, when two years later you can get them with low miles for 1/2 that much. Except the Toyota which was an easy 10K more.

I personally do not think they are worth 10K more, but that is the market, and people are paying it.

None of the above are worth 40K +

Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: fowl smacker on March 12, 2021, 12:30:33 PM
Hope you didn't want a truck when you bought it!

The Rago Fabrication Toyota Tundra Bed Channel Stiffeners solve a known problem that Tundra's acquire over time. If you have a camper shell, bed rack, or use your Tundra to off-road frequently, the rear sheet metal channels are known to crack overtime because of added stress and weight to the vehicle.

https://youtu.be/glPAW6C6JHQ (https://youtu.be/glPAW6C6JHQ)
I have a bed rack and offroad frequently with my 2017 Tundra Crewmax.  I also tow a boat and a trailer quite frequently.   I've put thousands of miles on "trails" in the Mt. Shasta mountain range still zero issues.   :dunno:
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: thinkingman on March 12, 2021, 12:32:21 PM
LEDs for vehicles are bright white.  Xenon bulbs are blue.

LEDs also have a tighter beam pattern than filaments.

If they shine in eyes, it’s an adjustment issue, simply adjust the housing as required by any bulb replacement other than like in kind.


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Are you sure?

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/led-headlights.443346/ (https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/led-headlights.443346/)
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: thinkingman on March 12, 2021, 12:39:16 PM
I have to be honest, I have never owned a Toyota.
I do own a 2016 Nissan Frontier, and after test driving all of the available midsized trucks in 2018. The Honda Ridgeline was "by far the most comfortable", best layed out ergonomically, and with the most current accessories.
I thought the worst driving and most gutless was the Tacoma. The Brand new Toyota's transmission was a shifting nightmare and was gutless compared to the 2016 Nissan.
(not that the Nissan changed much in the previous 10 years)
But The Tacoma was the best looking truck in the bunch.
I bought the Nissan because it was third best driving, behind the Chev ZR2
 and the Honda (the base line Chevy/GMC were not close but ahead of the Toyota). The New Ford Ranger was a tie for third.
These are opinions and are totally subjective.
And I am not saying the Tacoma is bad vehicle, and if the Leaf Springs are the only things to worry about? They would still be a very good truck.

Honestly, what is beyond belief, is that people pay $40k + for any of these trucks, when two years later you can get them with low miles for 1/2 that much. Except the Toyota which was an easy 10K more.

I personally do not think they are worth 10K more, but that is the market, and people are paying it.

None of the above are worth 40K +
Nice honest assessment.
Speaking of Ridgeline, I still laugh when I read this and post to all the Toyota Fanboyz who can't stop talking about what an amazing vehicle Toyota makes:

If this road could bring the TRD Off-Road package and its Bilstein monotube shocks to its knees, what could this possibly mean for the Ridgeline, a truck many are quick to write off as a poseur, a crossover masquerading in truck's clothing?

We rolled under the Ridgeline for a look and to our surprise the right rear shock looked ... reasonably OK. There was no sign of overheating of any kind, no residue of an oily explosion, and the rubber dust boot was fully intact. A small damp patch of oil indicated it had leaked a little bit, but it still appeared to be functional. As for the left rear, it looked 100 percent fine.

Against all expectations, it seemed the Ridgeline had just kneed the Tacoma TRD Off-Road package in the groin.


https://www.edmunds.com/car-buying/death-valley-torture-test-2017-honda-ridgeline-vs-2016-toyota-tacoma-trd-off-road-comparison-test.html (https://www.edmunds.com/car-buying/death-valley-torture-test-2017-honda-ridgeline-vs-2016-toyota-tacoma-trd-off-road-comparison-test.html)
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: Mtnwalker on March 12, 2021, 12:43:09 PM
This thread is making me nostalgic... miss ya old buddy!  :'(


Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: MtnMuley on March 12, 2021, 12:55:57 PM
Nearly a million miles for me on Toyota's and a lot of the miles have been hard. Replaced a set of heads on a 3.0, a clutch on another, and and a few cv axles from torn boots is about it for issues other than suspension parts from abuse. I'd consider the quality control at the top end. Guess I must be one of the "Fanboyz" you're referring to since they've been dependable for me?
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: Jason on March 12, 2021, 01:00:48 PM
Here you go Fan Boys..lol let’s get some Toyota Porn going.
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: h20hunter on March 12, 2021, 01:13:38 PM
Been a Toyota family for 15 plus years....had an FJ that took a shot from a pos car, spun our rig 180 degrees,  family walked away 100% unscathed.  Love our Tundra.  Been a Lexus employee for going on 20 years. Every brand has issues at times. Every brand has recalls. I'd stand behind the Toyota brand all day and can say 100% that Lexus as a manufacturer allows us to do things on behalf of owners that are way beyond most othee brands domestic or luxury.  :tup:
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: 10thmountainarcher on March 12, 2021, 01:13:56 PM
New Toyota owner here, I can tell you I’m a big time fanboy. Came from a 15 Silverado 1500 Z71 to this and there is no looking back.
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: Fl0und3rz on March 12, 2021, 01:27:06 PM
Oh great, another manifesto.

:chuckle:

I had a 1990 for about ten years, sold it for what I paid for it.  Only break down was a snapped torsion bar, which was a $300 fix IIRC.  I went over a huge RR crossing in S. Seattle and - my fault - the too loose timing belt slipped a notch or too.  It still ran.  Ran rough.  But I got home and was able to repair.  It was one of the most solid and dependable vehicles I have ever owned, and I would buy another in a heartbeat.

Sorry, OP, that you have such extreme butthurt over your experiences, but it is hardly indicative of the brand, no matter the number of childish allusions you want to make about people who've had good experiences.

:twocents:
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: Bob33 on March 12, 2021, 01:38:48 PM
I just sold a 2001 Tacoma for $7K that I bought for $20K in 2001. It had 250K miles. I estimate the total cost I put into it (other than fuel) including tires, oil changes, batteries etc. was around $7k. $13K in depreciation and $7K in additional costs. That turns out to be $.08 a mile over the life of the vehicle. I'll take that Cost Of Ownership any day.
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: Alchase on March 12, 2021, 01:47:45 PM
Nearly a million miles for me on Toyota's and a lot of the miles have been hard. Replaced a set of heads on a 3.0, a clutch on another, and and a few cv axles from torn boots is about it for issues other than suspension parts from abuse. I'd consider the quality control at the top end. Guess I must be one of the "Fanboyz" you're referring to since they've been dependable for me?

That is impressive!
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: Jake Dogfish on March 12, 2021, 01:55:13 PM
Toyota\Lexus are No.1 in quality ask any mechanic.  The only question is wether it is worth the price.
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: b23 on March 12, 2021, 02:21:39 PM
I had a 2013 Tacoma 4dr Off Road pkg.  Bought it new and had it till I traded it in on a new GMC AT4 a year ago this past Dec.  The Tacoma was a decent enough little truck.  The 4.0L IMO was kind of a weak suck motor so I had a TRD Supercharger installed on it shortly after buying it which made a pretty significant power difference. 

It drove fine but the suspension sucks and was a harsh ride.  Had it in the shop for a couple little warranty issues but no big deal it happens with all of them.  Everyone talks them up like they are the second coming of Christ but I gotta be honest, even though it had every option except a sun roof you could get it was probably the most basic no frills vehicle I've owned in a long time.  I sometimes wonder if that's part of Toyota's plan though, keep them more basic with less options available and it is just that much less sh1t to go wrong down the road. 

I will say, the one thing I do miss about my Tacoma was when it came to up in the woods driving being that they are a mid size sure has its advantages so I do miss the smaller size compared to my new full size truck.  Otherwise there is nothing I miss about it.
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: acrocker on March 12, 2021, 03:20:07 PM
Had a 2000 Tacoma, sold it in '05 when I 'upgraded' top a full size diesel to tow, then bought a used 2010 in 2013 to use as a commuter, which I'm still driving. Both were solid, never had any serious breakdowns or issues. Like most vehicles, if you take care of it and do the required maintenance it will last you a long time. I guess I probably have put close to 200k miles on my two Tacomas without major issues.  I have also had a '94 Toyota Hilux, a 1998 Runner, and a 1973 FJ40, so you could say I'm somewhat of a 'fanboy', or at least a consumer who has been sold on the quality of Toyota vehicles.

I agree, none of the new trucks out there are worth what they are being sold for, but the Tacomas are solid and I would (will) buy another in a heartbeat. Just lightly used and much cheaper than new...
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: Duckslayer89 on March 12, 2021, 03:20:37 PM
I’ve abused this truck for 11 years and it won’t quit I love it
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: fowl smacker on March 12, 2021, 03:48:31 PM
Driven many many miles on these "roads" and worse.  I have a roof rack, haul stuff, tow, offroad and have had 0 issues with my 2017 crewmax or any Toyota previous to this one.  Was just inspecting the underside while changing my oil and no rust or issues.  Still rock solid.
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: greenhead_killer on March 12, 2021, 03:53:25 PM
I’ve had 4 Toyota’s so far. A  4Runner  that I rolled in my early 20s. Great vehicle before that. A 2002 Tacoma that I still have. 212k on it. An 07 sequoia with 165k on it, wife’s daily driver. Lastly a 2013 tundra that I’ve got 110k on. All great vehicles. Little to no problems, mostly basic maint. I’d stand by Toyota’s any day and put them next to any other brand as far as reliability goes. Great vehicles
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: Duckslayer89 on March 12, 2021, 04:18:47 PM
I’ve had 4 Toyota’s so far. A  4Runner  that I rolled in my early 20s. Great vehicle before that. A 2002 Tacoma that I still have. 212k on it. An 07 sequoia with 165k on it, wife’s daily driver. Lastly a 2013 tundra that I’ve got 110k on. All great vehicles. Little to no problems, mostly basic maint. I’d stand by Toyota’s any day and put them next to any other brand as far as reliability goes. Great vehicles

I put them above any other vehicle brand!!!
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: haftard on March 12, 2021, 04:32:42 PM
you want my honest opinion. i had a 2005 tacoma and it was a pos. in all honesty it was. the second gens are not a great rig. the 3rd gens seem to be alright but only time will tell. by my first gen is by far my favoret truck i have owned. the quilty of the toyota is honestly unmatched if you think about it, and there are plenty of toyotas driving around with half million on the clock. only issue i realy have with toytoas is i wish they would use better paint and a little bit better rear suspension
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: MADMAX on March 12, 2021, 05:03:04 PM
Had a 2013 Tacoma
Loved it but gas tank too small
Traded for a 2020 Tundra
Love it
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: Buckhunter24 on March 12, 2021, 05:46:52 PM
Nice setup madmax
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: MADMAX on March 12, 2021, 06:19:20 PM
Nice setup madmax

Thanks the Tacoma pulled that little trailer all over the place
But only had a 17 gallon tank
The new Tundra crewmax has a 38 gallon tank
Just got the canopy and next up is new rims and tires
Very reliable trucks
Bought my wife a new 4 runner in 2017 and no complaints  with that either
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: Alchase on March 12, 2021, 06:43:38 PM
Nice setup madmax

Thanks the Tacoma pulled that little trailer all over the place
But only had a 17 gallon tank
The new Tundra crewmax has a 38 gallon tank
Just got the canopy and next up is new rims and tires
Very reliable trucks
Bought my wife a new 4 runner in 2017 and no complaints  with that either

Not to jack this thread

Madmax, weren't you the one with the smaller trailer with the forward kitchen?
If so what model is it?
I have been looking and can't seem to find it anymore.
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: MADMAX on March 12, 2021, 06:46:13 PM
I have a rear kitchen Jayco hummingbird with slide out
Great little trailer for 2

https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,257042.msg3487644.html#msg3487644
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: Alchase on March 12, 2021, 06:50:02 PM
I have a rear kitchen Jayco hummingbird with slide out
Great little trailer for 2

Nice looking trailer!
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: jdb on March 12, 2021, 06:55:29 PM
Too paraphrase the late great Ricky Bobby... if you don’t like Toyota’s f*#$@ you!
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: Buckhunter24 on March 12, 2021, 07:06:39 PM
Yep I hear ya on the gas tank. Go through fuel pretty quick pulling the trailer. I usually pack a 5 gallon can with me but 38 gallons sounds pretty nice !
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: WAcoueshunter on March 12, 2021, 07:17:25 PM
I’ve only had Toyotas for the last 20 years. About 500k miles total, and not a single issue. Does that make me a fanboy? 
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: snake on March 12, 2021, 07:25:48 PM
Toyota driver for life, mine gets such good gas mileage I have to pull over sometimes and drain some out.
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: Jason on March 12, 2021, 07:32:03 PM
What happened to the OP? Disappeared I guess.  :dunno: Great thread by the way!  :tup:
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: Buckhunter24 on March 12, 2021, 07:37:46 PM
Hell i didn't even read the opening post until just now. I saw pictures of toyotas and figured I'd post mine haha.
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: Buckhunter24 on March 12, 2021, 07:40:05 PM
Here she is with a little camp wood
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: fowl smacker on March 12, 2021, 07:46:37 PM
I’ve only had Toyotas for the last 20 years. About 500k miles total, and not a single issue. Does that make me a fanboy?
Yep, welcome!
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: gee_unit360 on March 12, 2021, 08:01:57 PM
Bought a certified used 06 Tundra I had for 11 years. Zero issues. Only thing I replaced was oil, tires, and brakes. Bought a Brand new Tundra in 2017, zero issues so far and doubt I’ll ever have any. Reliability and resale value can’t be beat in my opinion.
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: Fl0und3rz on March 13, 2021, 11:36:37 AM
Here she is with a little camp wood

But those springs!!!!

:chuckle:
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: elksnout on March 14, 2021, 07:01:59 PM
I bought a 98 Taco with 74K miles and sold it at 242K miles. It was 100% stock. No abuse by original owner or myself. I serviced it religiously. Quite the little mountain goat. But it had it's issues. Automatic tranny went out (completely) at just over 100K. This was my first Toyota and I was surprised this happened. Starter went out so she got a ride home on a hook. U-joints and carrier bearing. Drivers seat started to come undone. Top end engine gaskets started leaking oil. The way the oil (3.4) from the oil filter pissed down the side of the engine onto the front cross member was a poor design. Front axle inner bearings. A/C compressor went out at 200K? And that engine compartment was a real pain to turn wrenches in by a guy with big hands!! 

I say this not to bash the Tacoma. It was a great little rig. I mention this because they all have issues no matter the emblem on the front grill.


Elksnout
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: thinkingman on March 14, 2021, 07:11:30 PM
I bought a 98 Taco with 74K miles and sold it at 242K miles. It was 100% stock. No abuse by original owner or myself. I serviced it religiously. Quite the little mountain goat. But it had it's issues. Automatic tranny went out (completely) at just over 100K. This was my first Toyota and I was surprised this happened. Starter went out so she got a ride home on a hook. U-joints and carrier bearing. Drivers seat started to come undone. Top end engine gaskets started leaking oil. The way the oil (3.4) from the oil filter pissed down the side of the engine onto the front cross member was a poor design. Front axle inner bearings. A/C compressor went out at 200K? And that engine compartment was a real pain to turn wrenches in by a guy with big hands!! 

I say this not to bash the Tacoma. It was a great little rig. I mention this because they all have issues no matter the emblem on the front grill.


Elksnout

You’re the only honest one here.
3.0 and 3.4 ate head gaskets for lunch, but that’s a sign of quality.
Tranny dead at 100? Sign of quality!
A load of firewood and ride on the RUSTY frame rails? Sign of quality!
Videos on YouTube where somebody makes a parts kit to keep your bed from cracking? Sign of quality!
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: thinkingman on March 14, 2021, 07:17:12 PM
Here she is with a little camp wood

But those springs!!!!

:chuckle:

Since you can’t read, I’ll dumb it down for you.
 https://risingsun4x4club.org/xf/threads/frame-recall.22467/ (https://risingsun4x4club.org/xf/threads/frame-recall.22467/)
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: MADMAX on March 14, 2021, 07:38:13 PM
So your not a Toyota lover ?
Noted
Have good evening
 :chuckle:
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: Fl0und3rz on March 14, 2021, 07:39:40 PM
Here she is with a little camp wood

But those springs!!!!

:chuckle:

Since you can’t read, I’ll dumb it down for you.
 https://risingsun4x4club.org/xf/threads/frame-recall.22467/ (https://risingsun4x4club.org/xf/threads/frame-recall.22467/)

Oh noes! The springs! The frames! The rust!  I am certain that all the other manufacturers have not ever had any recalls.

I was honestly hoping for another sandwich-board, the end is nigh, manifesto. 

:chuckle:

But I thought that might be a bit too much to expect for you to put something coherent together.  Sorry you weren't sharp enough to take advantage of the lemon law.  But makes some more personal attacks, if it makes you feel better about your bad decisions.  I am sure that will help.

:rolleyes:
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: thinkingman on March 14, 2021, 08:14:43 PM
Here she is with a little camp wood

But those springs!!!!

:chuckle:

Since you can’t read, I’ll dumb it down for you.
 https://risingsun4x4club.org/xf/threads/frame-recall.22467/ (https://risingsun4x4club.org/xf/threads/frame-recall.22467/)

Oh noes! The springs! The frames! The rust!  I am certain that all the other manufacturers have not ever had any recalls.

I was honestly hoping for another sandwich-board, the end is nigh, manifesto. 

:chuckle:

But I thought that might be a bit too much to expect for you to put something coherent together.  Sorry you weren't sharp enough to take advantage of the lemon law.  But makes some more personal attacks, if it makes you feel better about your bad decisions.  I am sure that will help.

:rolleyes:
Lemon law is 30 months from date of delivery. 
You’re proving your automotive knowledge with every post.
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: h20hunter on March 14, 2021, 08:15:51 PM
JD powers must be wrong?
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: Fl0und3rz on March 14, 2021, 08:16:39 PM
Feel better about yourself yet?

You went 30 months with no problems to get the ball rolling?  Smart, like thinking man.

:chuckle:
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: Fl0und3rz on March 14, 2021, 08:17:21 PM
JD powers must be wrong?

Just a bunch of fan bois with no automotive knowledge.

:chuckle:
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: fishngamereaper on March 14, 2021, 08:21:27 PM
Well I for one am convinced...

First thing tomorrow the wife's highlander and the kids Tacoma are both going on craigslist...cheap for quick sales..I cant chance the possibility of something breaking.
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: Fl0und3rz on March 14, 2021, 08:24:37 PM
Hunt-WA discount for the wife and kids?
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: fishngamereaper on March 14, 2021, 08:32:34 PM
Hunt-WA discount for the wife and kids?

Are you offering to buy my wife and kid....  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: Fl0und3rz on March 14, 2021, 08:34:26 PM
Just keeping it real, in the spirit of the thread. Like Blues Brothers.
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: huntnphool on March 14, 2021, 08:37:51 PM
Nearly a million miles for me on Toyota's and a lot of the miles have been hard. Replaced a set of heads on a 3.0, a clutch on another, and and a few cv axles from torn boots is about it for issues other than suspension parts from abuse. I'd consider the quality control at the top end. Guess I must be one of the "Fanboyz" you're referring to since they've been dependable for me?

 Toyota does make a cute truck. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: JakeLand on March 14, 2021, 09:42:46 PM
2011 only replaced the front hubs , just rolled 300,000 miles on it on my trap line this January!
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: thinkingman on March 15, 2021, 08:34:51 AM
2011 only replaced the front hubs , just rolled 300,000 miles on it on my trap line this January!
Wow.
That's impressive.
Nothing but front hubs....
That suspension rides high for being stock.
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: thinkingman on March 15, 2021, 08:45:22 AM
JD powers must be wrong?

Just a bunch of fan bois with no automotive knowledge.

:chuckle:
I know that hurt but it's going to get worse...

JD Powers is nothing but Fanboyz touching themselves while talking about how great their truck is was....

Finishing just ahead of the GM Fisher Price twins?

Really impressive!
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: 3dvapor on March 15, 2021, 08:51:33 AM
Honda Ridgeline really? 
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: JakeLand on March 15, 2021, 09:09:47 AM
2011 only replaced the front hubs , just rolled 300,000 miles on it on my trap line this January!
Wow.
That's impressive.
Nothing but front hubs....
That suspension rides high for being stock.
not stock height , lifted when brand new with just 26 miles on it the fact is this rig gets abused but maintained impeccable services and they last . I traded my 2002 Tacoma in for this and it had 308,000 miles on it and zero issues
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: millerwheeler on March 15, 2021, 09:26:03 AM
I have an 08 2nd gen  that I drive like a rzr in the woods more often than on the pavement it’s the family adventure rig I have   Replaced cv, brakes, tires , springs , and u joints all to my being hard on it. We are over 200k wouldn’t be afraid to drive it to florida tomorrow or anywhere for that matter . I have leveling kit and some  different leafs, and fox shocks , but stock other wise .it’s not like my old  Toyota as far as size goes but it gets me into places  a lot of trucks won’t go  .I have always had other vehicles so never worried about breaking it .
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: thinkingman on March 15, 2021, 09:51:12 AM
I'm guessing none of you have a 6sp manual, or if you do, you've never towed with it.
Toyota engineers were smoking crack the day they selected ratios and whoever dreamed up the tow rating was equally stoned.
Just laughable.
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: Fl0und3rz on March 15, 2021, 10:31:05 AM
I have an 08 2nd gen  that I drive like a rzr in the woods more often than on the pavement it’s the family adventure rig I have   Replaced cv, brakes, tires , springs , and u joints all to my being hard on it. We are over 200k wouldn’t be afraid to drive it to florida tomorrow or anywhere for that matter . I have leveling kit and some  different leafs, and fox shocks , but stock other wise .it’s not like my old  Toyota as far as size goes but it gets me into places  a lot of trucks won’t go  .I have always had other vehicles so never worried about breaking it .

Must suck having something so unreliable.  Maybe posting a manifesto would make you feel better about your poor decisions.

:chuckle:
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: Jason on March 15, 2021, 10:42:56 AM
I have an 08 2nd gen  that I drive like a rzr in the woods more often than on the pavement it’s the family adventure rig I have   Replaced cv, brakes, tires , springs , and u joints all to my being hard on it. We are over 200k wouldn’t be afraid to drive it to florida tomorrow or anywhere for that matter . I have leveling kit and some  different leafs, and fox shocks , but stock other wise .it’s not like my old  Toyota as far as size goes but it gets me into places  a lot of trucks won’t go  .I have always had other vehicles so never worried about breaking it .

Must suck having something so unreliable.  Maybe post a manifesto would make you feel better about your poor decisions.

:chuckle:
:yeah:
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on March 15, 2021, 10:59:14 AM
This thread is laughable.  If you dont like toyota, dont get one.  We have had four. For me the resale alone has made overall ownership cost very low. Bought a first gen Taco extended for 8,000. Had around 100,000 when purchased, did timing belt service at time I got it. Aside from add ons, i did a radiator and a slave cylinder for clutch. At 220,000 sold it for 7,500, it did have a lift, canopy and fresh tires when i sold it. Rather than stock. It was still running awesome, sold only to get into four door for growing family. Got a 2010  second gen new, 4 door, with 6 speed. While their was a couple things i wish were different about the set up, reliability was awesome. They did recall the springs,  my local dealer actually  gave me credit, because i had upgraded to OME prior to recall. Wheel bearings, and one hub. Otherwise 170000 trouble free. Paid 30 sold for 21
and guy flew up from AZ to purchase.

Currently have 2 4 runners, one a 99, (mine,) closing in on 200, 3.4 5 spd, and the other the wifes, 2012. Both have been great so far.
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: millerwheeler on March 15, 2021, 12:02:24 PM
I have an 08 2nd gen  that I drive like a rzr in the woods more often than on the pavement it’s the family adventure rig I have   Replaced cv, brakes, tires , springs , and u joints all to my being hard on it. We are over 200k wouldn’t be afraid to drive it to florida tomorrow or anywhere for that matter . I have leveling kit and some  different leafs, and fox shocks , but stock other wise .it’s not like my old  Toyota as far as size goes but it gets me into places  a lot of trucks won’t go  .I have always had other vehicles so never worried about breaking it .

Must suck having something so unreliable.  Maybe posting a manifesto would make you feel better about your poor decisions.

:chuckle:

Not unreliable at  all little fella .hate all ya want  still won’t change the fact they are well built but with any brand  there is always something people will complain about.
Which sounds like you like whining
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: fowl smacker on March 15, 2021, 12:06:25 PM
I have an 08 2nd gen  that I drive like a rzr in the woods more often than on the pavement it’s the family adventure rig I have   Replaced cv, brakes, tires , springs , and u joints all to my being hard on it. We are over 200k wouldn’t be afraid to drive it to florida tomorrow or anywhere for that matter . I have leveling kit and some  different leafs, and fox shocks , but stock other wise .it’s not like my old  Toyota as far as size goes but it gets me into places  a lot of trucks won’t go  .I have always had other vehicles so never worried about breaking it .

Must suck having something so unreliable.  Maybe posting a manifesto would make you feel better about your poor decisions.

:chuckle:

Not unreliable at  all little fella .hate all ya want  still won’t change the fact they are well built but with any brand  there is always something people will complain about.
Which sounds like you like whining
Pretty sure his post was sarcasm
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: Fl0und3rz on March 15, 2021, 12:12:41 PM
I thought it was dripping with it.  I thought your rig was pretty nice, although I'd prefer another color.
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: millerwheeler on March 15, 2021, 12:20:56 PM
I thought it was dripping with it.  I thought your rig was pretty nice, although I'd prefer another color.

LOL I  didn’t see it oops , thanks and ya the color looks like a tampon well
Used

Can’t believe I didn’t see the sarcasm crap
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: millerwheeler on March 15, 2021, 12:21:49 PM
I have an 08 2nd gen  that I drive like a rzr in the woods more often than on the pavement it’s the family adventure rig I have   Replaced cv, brakes, tires , springs , and u joints all to my being hard on it. We are over 200k wouldn’t be afraid to drive it to florida tomorrow or anywhere for that matter . I have leveling kit and some  different leafs, and fox shocks , but stock other wise .it’s not like my old  Toyota as far as size goes but it gets me into places  a lot of trucks won’t go  .I have always had other vehicles so never worried about breaking it .

Must suck having something so unreliable.  Maybe posting a manifesto would make you feel better about your poor decisions.

:chuckle:

Not unreliable at  all little fella .hate all ya want  still won’t change the fact they are well built but with any brand  there is always something people will complain about.
Which sounds like you like whining
Pretty sure his post was sarcasm



Yup I may have  missed that
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: jackelope on March 15, 2021, 03:21:10 PM
This These threads are new for me. I've never seen someone's disdain for a vehicle manufacturer spread over multiple threads on an unrelated to anything Toyota hunting forum like this before.


Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: phildobaggins on March 15, 2021, 03:28:53 PM
I've had a 2006 Tundra for 5 years. It's been the most reliable and adventure worthy vehicle I've ever owned -- not a hiccup at 180k miles.
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: Skillet on March 15, 2021, 03:36:16 PM
This These threads are new for me. I've never seen someone's disdain for a vehicle manufacturer spread over multiple threads on an unrelated to anything Toyota hunting forum like this before.

I'm thinking that these toyota bashing posts and threads are having the opposite effect of their intent.
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: MADMAX on March 15, 2021, 04:46:45 PM
 :yeah:
I seem to recall a thread looking for a Toyota Tundra
None hardly around
They must really suck :chuckle:
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: fishngamereaper on March 15, 2021, 05:01:32 PM
Gives new meaning to TDS.
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: Fl0und3rz on March 15, 2021, 05:28:01 PM
lol
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: lewy on March 15, 2021, 09:59:52 PM
I just wanna know what he recommends....
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: Dan-o on March 15, 2021, 10:05:15 PM
I just wanna know what he recommends....

Yugo.

You never see pics of Yugo's with blown ball joint on the internet.
Title: Re: Toyota Quality
Post by: Stein on March 15, 2021, 10:19:50 PM
I just wanna know what he recommends....

Yugo.

You never see pics of Yugo's with blown ball joint on the internet.

Funny, I was just thinking that.  I read an article that they sold for $3,995 and still fetch $1,000 if you can find one.  So, the cost for 26 or so years of blissful ownership was only $3,000 - not too shabby!

I'm not sure if they have ball joints though, seemed mostly stamped steel parts loosely fit together.
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