Post by: Ghost Hunter on April 28, 2021, 01:24:01 PM
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Post by: Dan-o on April 28, 2021, 05:55:08 PM
Thanks for posting.
Post by: nwwanderer on April 29, 2021, 05:38:11 AM
Post by: Rob on April 29, 2021, 08:41:25 AM
Post by: Ghost Hunter on April 29, 2021, 08:43:25 AM
Post by: greenhead_killer on April 29, 2021, 08:56:02 AM
Post by: Rob on April 29, 2021, 08:57:23 AM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on April 29, 2021, 09:38:46 AM
Post by: kselkhunter on April 29, 2021, 09:44:01 AM
Removal means you don't get to keep the meat its not a hunt where you keep it
The document states each removal team can keep the meat of one buffalo in total. Distributed at the end of the week. At the discretion of the parks service (ie if you violate their rules in the removal process you get no meat). The rest gets distributed to the tribes.
Post by: ctwiggs1 on April 29, 2021, 09:44:37 AM
Removal means you don't get to keep the meat its not a hunt where you keep it
I don't think that's necessarily true. It's at the discretion of AZFG.
I plan to call them and ask what the plan is on that. If I'm allowed to keep meat, I'm totally applying.
Post by: birddogdad on April 29, 2021, 09:51:21 AM
Post by: h20hunter on April 29, 2021, 10:04:41 AM
Ouch
Post by: ctwiggs1 on April 29, 2021, 10:05:44 AM
"Be able to haul out on foot without motorized access"
Ouch
Going to be a lot of embracing the suck on that one. Hopefully they're above the rim.
Post by: headshot5 on April 29, 2021, 10:15:01 AM
"Be able to haul out on foot without motorized access"
Ouch
Going to be a lot of embracing the suck on that one. Hopefully they're above the rim.
Just take it out like that old Johnny Cash song.... One piece at a time.
Post by: SteelheadDC on April 29, 2021, 10:57:45 AM
Post by: headshot5 on April 29, 2021, 11:00:58 AM
I drew the coveted Copper river tag in Alaska a couple years ago, they are a very interesting thing to hunt. Their ability to suck up a magnum round and not flinch is scary. Made me laugh when I watched "Dances with Wolves" while during the buffalo hunt they would drop with one shot from a long bow? The bison I shot had by far the toughest steaks I have ever eaten. We had to grind almost all of it. There could have been some "cold shortening" of the meat though, after quartering, left it overnight in the field and the temp dropped to -20. They are a very tasty animal though.
Did you access the area by boat? I bet that was a fun time.
Post by: SteelheadDC on April 29, 2021, 11:08:18 AM
Post by: ctwiggs1 on April 29, 2021, 11:11:19 AM
Did both floated the Copper twice in the fall, saw a lot of animals but they were always in a bad spot, ie upstream after we floated by and there is a ton of downfall in there to overland a dead bison. My friends are good help, but they're not stupid. We hiked into the spots Rinella talks about in his book. Went back in the spring on snowmachine, made things much eaiser.
Is access as bad as Rinella talks about?
Post by: SteelheadDC on April 29, 2021, 11:18:33 AM
Post by: ctwiggs1 on April 29, 2021, 11:23:19 AM
We saw a good bull up where he shot the cow, but there was no way we were going to try to take our pack rafts down the Chetaslina to haul it out, we just pulled out and hunted closer to the copper. The soil in that area is only 4 inches deep, so the trees fall over like match sticks.
If I recall correctly the pack raft didn't work very well for him either. Didn't he almost die doing that? Good call on your part :tup: :tup:
Post by: Ghost Hunter on April 29, 2021, 12:57:35 PM
Post by: Rob on April 29, 2021, 01:26:35 PM
(then you can add a team to help haul meat)
Post by: Ghost Hunter on April 29, 2021, 01:33:54 PM
Post by: Wetwoodshunter on April 29, 2021, 04:30:14 PM
Give me the word I'll do the paperwork.
Post by: Ghost Hunter on May 07, 2021, 02:32:05 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/more-than-45-000-people-volunteer-to-kill-12-bison-in-us-national-park/ar-BB1gtG31?ocid=msedgntp
Post by: Twispriver on May 07, 2021, 04:08:33 PM
Post by: Limhangerslayer on May 07, 2021, 04:27:48 PM
I'm a little fuzzy on the math here. The Park Service wants to reduce the size of the herd from 600 to 200 but they're only going to cull 12 animals? I could imagine a herd of 600 will drop between 60 and 100 calves just this season. :dunno:i think the article is wrong, you kill as many as you can. But you can only keep one bison for the whole group. I wouldn’t do this cull, they also want you to pack everything else out on foot, as in every other bison. Do you can then give it to the tribes. I wouldn’t be caught dead packing half a dozen of those things out of that hell hope for terrain. Unless it’s easy to pack. If every single applicant had to pay the fee they made over a million dollars on fees alone