Post by: Gwhjenkins on May 06, 2021, 05:43:56 PM
I’ve tried calling but can’t get ahold of anyone.
Post by: High Climber on May 06, 2021, 07:37:10 PM
Post by: X-Force on May 06, 2021, 07:40:45 PM
Post by: Bullkllr on May 06, 2021, 08:15:35 PM
Post by: millerwheeler on May 06, 2021, 10:12:06 PM
Post by: Jake T on May 09, 2021, 07:15:51 AM
Post by: fireweed on May 09, 2021, 07:57:24 AM
What happens if you just find a spot and throw out a bedroll? I’m just thinking that there are probably guidelines stating that you have to stay on trail wile in the area, but that’s not really feasible for hunting. So maybe the same logic applies to sleeping spots?
no. The monument is hyper about anyone camping in that area unless in one of their special spots. And their "camps" aren't great either. I had Mt Whittier and just hiked in everyday two extra miles. Weather was awful with blizzards that pushed the elk down and out. I did have a permit to camp but didnt use it. Norway Pass you could camp in the green timber areas without a permit. The rules are fuzzy here, the Monument master plan says permits aren't needed in green timber, but the Managers and signs might say you need one.
Post by: Bullkllr on May 09, 2021, 08:11:54 AM
The rules vary in different areas of the monument. It is complicated and takes some research to stay within the rules for different areas.What happens if you just find a spot and throw out a bedroll? I’m just thinking that there are probably guidelines stating that you have to stay on trail wile in the area, but that’s not really feasible for hunting. So maybe the same logic applies to sleeping spots?
no. The monument is hyper about anyone camping in that area unless in one of their special spots. And their "camps" aren't great either. I had Mt Whittier and just hiked in everyday two extra miles. Weather was awful with blizzards that pushed the elk down and out. I did have a permit to camp but didnt use it. Norway Pass you could camp in the green timber areas without a permit. The rules are fuzzy here, the Monument master plan says permits aren't needed in green timber, but the Managers and signs might say you need one.
What I found: in the "Mt. Margaret Backcountry" where Norway Pass and Mt. Whittier permits are, you can go anywhere off trail,but you need a permit to camp at one of the designated campsites- otherwise no camping allowed. You can camp anywhere north of the Green River anywhere, anytime as that is outside of the backcountry area boundary.
https://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/giffordpinchot/recarea/?recid=41618 (https://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/giffordpinchot/recarea/?recid=41618)
Smith Creek/Pumice Plains/etc. are not in the same area and have their own rules.
Post by: jstone on May 09, 2021, 08:31:39 AM
Post by: Bullkllr on May 09, 2021, 12:56:41 PM
FWIW, the 1st open date at any of the campsites right now is October 21. It gets a bit better after that.
Post by: metlhead on May 09, 2021, 09:28:31 PM
Post by: metlhead on May 10, 2021, 02:43:08 PM
Post by: Dark2Dark on May 19, 2021, 12:56:01 PM
I have some campsites in Norway Pass if myself or any of my hunting partners get lucky and draw!
Post by: Gwhjenkins on May 24, 2021, 09:50:01 AM
Good luck everyone and thank you.
Post by: millerwheeler on May 24, 2021, 10:48:19 AM
Post by: HikerHunter on May 24, 2021, 02:18:43 PM
What are they gonna do if you throw out a bedroll and sleep if you draw tag I mean won’t be a camp just sleeping I dunno seams like they should make some spots for the tag holders is all
Are you asking two different branches of state government to do some reasonable coordination?????
Post by: millerwheeler on May 24, 2021, 02:22:25 PM
What are they gonna do if you throw out a bedroll and sleep if you draw tag I mean won’t be a camp just sleeping I dunno seams like they should make some spots for the tag holders is all
Are you asking two different branches of state government to do some reasonable coordination?????
That would make too much sense , but seriously what are they gonna do other than if someone asked back there ask you not to sleep over night I mean I’d have to really weigh the options in that scenario
Post by: kirkthoma on May 26, 2021, 09:56:00 PM
Post by: craigapphunt on June 08, 2021, 04:54:40 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on June 08, 2021, 06:20:34 PM
Post by: JakeLand on June 08, 2021, 08:15:24 PM
If I drew and couldn’t get a permit to stay in the backcountry, I know what the hell id be doing, going hunting in the backcountry and camping!bingo !! Great minds think alike
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on June 08, 2021, 08:49:06 PM
If I drew and couldn’t get a permit to stay in the backcountry, I know what the hell id be doing, going hunting in the backcountry and camping!bingo !! Great minds think alike
It’s called dispersed camping completely legal.😉
Post by: Ghost Hunter on June 10, 2021, 12:18:08 PM
My profile picture is in Mt. Whittier. I know a buddy who just camps off trail with a small setup and has never had any issues. :dunno:
I know that spot. Snow wasn't all gone yet. That's where I stopped and asked for the keys to the truck if my buddy was continuing. :bdid: