Post by: T_Pott on May 11, 2021, 05:30:27 AM
Post by: Taco280AI on May 11, 2021, 06:06:01 AM
A lot of people are gearing theirs for better performance while others are tuning theirs.
Was just reading Ford is offering a factory tune for the Ranger which bumps up power to 310hp and 370 lb ft with a warranty, for about $800.
Post by: teanawayslayer on May 11, 2021, 06:28:29 AM
Post by: bustedoldman on May 11, 2021, 07:28:29 AM
Post by: ljsommer on May 11, 2021, 07:28:35 AM
Overall I love the truck but hate the transmission.
2017 TRD Off-road with technology package, purchased new. I have a canopy on mine and it's about the most functional thing I can imagine.
Post by: blacktail378 on May 11, 2021, 08:30:18 AM
Also have 07 v6 with 202,000miles. Regular maintenance and a couple front wheel bearings and no issues. :tup:
Post by: Sandberm on May 11, 2021, 08:36:06 AM
My brother had a couple of 4wd Tacomas, a 95 and 08. Before that he had a 88 2wd Toyota pickup. All 3 were 4 cylinder with manual transmission.
-The 88's engine was GREAT. Tons of low end, shifted super smooth, and was reasonably comfortable. Clutch was going out at 130k miles so he got rid of it
-He sold that for the 95 4wd Taco. The engine went from easy to drive low end power to more of what I called a"zingy" engine. We lived on a gravel road. You had to rev the engine out a bit when getting going from a dead stop which then you would 9 times out of 10 spin the rear wheels on the gravel. Gone were the comfortable seats in the 88 that were replaced with what felt like Plywood seats with a layer of cardboard for padding, sewed over with fabric. The aluminum impellor on the waterpump deteriorated due to electrolosis at 170k miles. He got rid of it. I think he paid $17k for it and sold it for $9k 13 years later. Thats resale value kids
-Enter the 08 4wd Taco. The one that supposedly had the frame rusting through problem. He never saw anything on his. Back was a more user friendly 4 cyl engine and the seats regained some padding. This truck was alright, but God the blindspots were terrible. The toolbox he put in didn't help. Check engine light came on at 25k miles and he never did anything about it, ran fine. He got rid of it with something like 125k miles and bought a half ton chevy in 2018 I think.
RESALE VALUE WAS GREAT on all 3 and they were pretty RELIABLE I must say compared to my Chevy S-10s I had at the same time. My S-10s were just so much more comfortable and easy to drive.
Post by: Machias on May 11, 2021, 09:30:54 AM
Post by: JakeLand on May 11, 2021, 10:08:01 AM
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on May 11, 2021, 11:16:07 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 11, 2021, 11:34:02 AM
Post by: KopperBuck on May 11, 2021, 11:35:50 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 11, 2021, 11:36:13 AM
I'm driving an 05 double cab and it has about 240k miles and running strong. I've replaced the fuel pump and the shocks and gave it a tune up. Its do for brakes and tires soon. The only thing I don't like about it is the 5' bed but you would be suprised how much you can pile in there lol I pull a 24' camper with it just fine. I've been debating trading it in for a tundra but I just love the truck and not sure what I'm going to do
Make sure if you get a Tundra that it has a back-up cam, especially if you need to park in a city. Full size are quite long. I loved the roomy front seat and the mileage was almost the same as my present Tacoma.
Post by: fishngamereaper on May 11, 2021, 11:45:29 AM
Gen 1 Taco is the way to go ..easy to work on.., 6 cyl auto. Bilstein 5100s 1.5 lift 32s.
My kids truck... Im secretly making him spend his own money to do the mods so when he gets ready to sell it's just how I want it...
Post by: Jake Dogfish on May 11, 2021, 11:46:58 AM
What do you guys like about the Toyota Tacomas? What year/model would you recommend?Interesting first post. Are you a dealer? I’m looking for a Highlander.
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 11, 2021, 11:49:13 AM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on May 11, 2021, 12:17:32 PM
Post by: bustedoldman on May 11, 2021, 01:16:52 PM
Post by: thinkingman on May 11, 2021, 04:25:17 PM
Sold it with 176000 miles on it, so I have some practical experience with the brand plus I turn my own wrenches....
First, it had flat rear leafs within 50k miles and Toyota refused to admit they had a problem until it became big enough to be a recall then they screwed me on reimbursement for the leafs.
Second, the frame is the cheapest C-Section frame in the business. Only people who haven't owned trucks would accept the flexi-flyer to screw the parts to.
Body integrity is mediocre. Trim strips flying off on the freeway, gas cap door rusting off like an old beer can, tailgate can't support more than 150lbs or it bends....
Cheap, cheap, cheap interior. Everything is cheapest crap I've seen in any modern vehicle.
Buy the automatic because the 6sp is engineered by morons who are marketing to mall crawler 19 year olds that know you can't back a trailer with the reverse ratio installed and cruising at 75mph is 2400 rpm...crazy stupid.
The only thing crazier and stupider is the people that buy them at ridiculous resale prices....to them I say 'THANK YOU AND GOOD RIDDANCE!'.
Post by: fishngamereaper on May 11, 2021, 04:29:16 PM
Post by: JakeLand on May 11, 2021, 09:15:01 PM
I’m a idiot my bad
Post by: Jason on May 11, 2021, 10:17:46 PM
I had a 2006 for 12 years.It’s good to see your feeling alright. Not sure anybody cares about your supposedly Toyota experience anymore. :dunno:
Sold it with 176000 miles on it, so I have some practical experience with the brand plus I turn my own wrenches....
First, it had flat rear leafs within 50k miles and Toyota refused to admit they had a problem until it became big enough to be a recall then they screwed me on reimbursement for the leafs.
Second, the frame is the cheapest C-Section frame in the business. Only people who haven't owned trucks would accept the flexi-flyer to screw the parts to.
Body integrity is mediocre. Trim strips flying off on the freeway, gas cap door rusting off like an old beer can, tailgate can't support more than 150lbs or it bends....
Cheap, cheap, cheap interior. Everything is cheapest crap I've seen in any modern vehicle.
Buy the automatic because the 6sp is engineered by morons who are marketing to mall crawler 19 year olds that know you can't back a trailer with the reverse ratio installed and cruising at 75mph is 2400 rpm...crazy stupid.
The only thing crazier and stupider is the people that buy them at ridiculous resale prices....to them I say 'THANK YOU AND GOOD RIDDANCE!'.
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 12, 2021, 11:16:45 AM
I had a 2006 for 12 years.
Sold it with 176000 miles on it, so I have some practical experience with the brand plus I turn my own wrenches....
First, it had flat rear leafs within 50k miles and Toyota refused to admit they had a problem until it became big enough to be a recall then they screwed me on reimbursement for the leafs.
Second, the frame is the cheapest C-Section frame in the business. Only people who haven't owned trucks would accept the flexi-flyer to screw the parts to.
Body integrity is mediocre. Trim strips flying off on the freeway, gas cap door rusting off like an old beer can, tailgate can't support more than 150lbs or it bends....
Cheap, cheap, cheap interior. Everything is cheapest crap I've seen in any modern vehicle.
Buy the automatic because the 6sp is engineered by morons who are marketing to mall crawler 19 year olds that know you can't back a trailer with the reverse ratio installed and cruising at 75mph is 2400 rpm...crazy stupid.
The only thing crazier and stupider is the people that buy them at ridiculous resale prices....to them I say 'THANK YOU AND GOOD RIDDANCE!'.
So basically, you were happy with the vehicle then?
Post by: Angry Perch on May 12, 2021, 11:52:40 AM
I had a 2006 for 12 years.
Sold it with 176000 miles on it, so I have some practical experience with the brand plus I turn my own wrenches....
First, it had flat rear leafs within 50k miles and Toyota refused to admit they had a problem until it became big enough to be a recall then they screwed me on reimbursement for the leafs.
Second, the frame is the cheapest C-Section frame in the business. Only people who haven't owned trucks would accept the flexi-flyer to screw the parts to.
Body integrity is mediocre. Trim strips flying off on the freeway, gas cap door rusting off like an old beer can, tailgate can't support more than 150lbs or it bends....
Cheap, cheap, cheap interior. Everything is cheapest crap I've seen in any modern vehicle.
Buy the automatic because the 6sp is engineered by morons who are marketing to mall crawler 19 year olds that know you can't back a trailer with the reverse ratio installed and cruising at 75mph is 2400 rpm...crazy stupid.
The only thing crazier and stupider is the people that buy them at ridiculous resale prices....to them I say 'THANK YOU AND GOOD RIDDANCE!'.
So if it was such a flaming pile of dog crap., why did you keep it for 12 years and 176,000 miles? I mean, that would make you just as dumb as Jake!
(kidding, Jake! :chuckle:)
Post by: thinkingman on May 13, 2021, 03:57:33 PM
Hmmmm .... I guess I’m under 150 pounds cause my tailgate is still straight and my 18’ trailer must be made of paper as I haul it and back it up my hill with no issues ohh wait my gas flap is still connected
I’m a idiot my bad
You might have an automatic not 6sp manual, and I'm guessing if you DO have the 6sp manual, you haven't had to reverse the trailer up any sort of grade or you wouldn't be making such an intelligent post....Or you like to replace clutches....Or you're one of those drivers that think if your car has enough power to move the trailer, it must be a decent tow vehicle.
Regarding the tailgate, go onto Tacomaworld and read about all the 19 year olds loading their MX bikes into the bed (5' won't hold a motocrosser without the tailgate open!) and how many have bent tailgates.
Not sure about the gas flap but you must be amazing.
Roof moldings came off driving down the freeway? https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/roof-molding-came-off.277252/ (https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/roof-molding-came-off.277252/)
Only a couple hun to replace...Thanks.
Post by: millerwheeler on May 13, 2021, 06:29:24 PM
Post by: MADMAX on May 13, 2021, 07:30:52 PM
Great truck loved it
Hauled my duckworth boat and little RV trailer all over the west
The only thing I didn’t like was the size of the gas tank
Not enough capacity and range
Traded it for a 2020 Tundra
Same look on both trucks
I like white
Post by: HAGEMANIAC on May 13, 2021, 08:24:15 PM
I do, however, wish I would have bought the Off Road instead of the Sport. That fake hood scoop just did it for me at the time.
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on May 14, 2021, 07:14:01 AM
I loved my 98 1st gen. 3.4 5spd. Excellent rig tough and dependable. No cab room. Excellent for solo sleeping in rig, or two if your tenting it. I loved the size in the woods, and tranny and motor combo was perfect for my needs. Not great for car seats, and I needed a rig that could double as a family hauler if needed, so upgraded to a 2010 off road with 6 speed. Good for what I needed at the time. But as has been mentioned gave up bed space, and reverse is tall. Although I had no problem managing it and never needed to replace a clutch, although I would use the two stage transfer if under heavy load, turns out its there for a reason :chuckle:
Post by: thinkingman on May 14, 2021, 08:45:25 AM
Depends on whether you need a fulltime woods rig? Daily plus hunting rig? Family hauler? Usually solo or maybe one partner or are you hunting with a crew?
I loved my 98 1st gen. 3.4 5spd. Excellent rig tough and dependable. No cab room. Excellent for solo sleeping in rig, or two if your tenting it. I loved the size in the woods, and tranny and motor combo was perfect for my needs. Not great for car seats, and I needed a rig that could double as a family hauler if needed, so upgraded to a 2010 off road with 6 speed. Good for what I needed at the time. But as has been mentioned gave up bed space, and reverse is tall. Although I had no problem managing it and never needed to replace a clutch, although I would use the two stage transfer if under heavy load, turns out its there for a reason :chuckle:
Yup! :tup:
4lo just to reverse up any sort of grade became a common theme!
:chuckle:
Post by: T_Pott on May 15, 2021, 05:45:26 AM
Post by: JakeLand on May 15, 2021, 06:41:12 AM
Im looking for a commuter/hunting rig truck. Does anyone have a recommendation for a newer outdoor 4x4 model in a manual?toyota Tacoma hands down
Post by: Tenkara on May 15, 2021, 07:00:31 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 15, 2021, 01:46:19 PM
Post by: thinkingman on May 17, 2021, 11:08:09 AM
There's a reason they hold their value so well.In the stock market, it's called The Greater Fool Theory.
Post by: Fl0und3rz on May 17, 2021, 11:14:45 AM
There's a reason they hold their value so well.In the stock market, it's called The Greater Fool Theory.
What this guy said.
Toyota Tacoma.
Flawless and anyone who disagrees is a moron......
:chuckle:
Post by: Jonathan_S on May 17, 2021, 11:53:11 AM
All the "bullet-proof!" comments from city dwellers with <100k miles do make me laugh though. F-150 gets my vote.
Post by: Tenkara on May 17, 2021, 11:54:44 AM
What's your go to truck? A Ridgeline?There's a reason they hold their value so well.In the stock market, it's called The Greater Fool Theory.
Post by: thinkingman on May 17, 2021, 02:42:38 PM
What's your go to truck? A Ridgeline?There's a reason they hold their value so well.In the stock market, it's called The Greater Fool Theory.
I've been driving a 2015 F150.
112k miles, zero complaints.
Springs spring
Frame holds stuff on where it's supposed to and doesn't quiver like a noodle.
Interior materials and components are much better quality than Toy.
Smooth, quiet and powerful at 80mph getting 17mpg, which is the same mileage as the Tacoma I had which hated cruising over 70mph.
The only thing the Toyota did better than the F150 is park...The 154" wheelbase F150 has to be backed into parking spaces the Toy would fit in easily.
The F150 is 10 times the truck and has needed next to nothing in repairs, whereas the Toy needed upgrades out of pocket just to be mediocre.
No regrets.
Post by: Tenkara on May 17, 2021, 03:07:43 PM
I've had three different toyotas, a 1985, a1990, and the 1997 that I still have.i had almost no issues with any and sold two for more than i bought them for.ive seen all the toyota bashing that you post and could care less about your opinion on them. Overall Toyota makes a damn good truck.What's your go to truck? A Ridgeline?There's a reason they hold their value so well.In the stock market, it's called The Greater Fool Theory.
I've been driving a 2015 F150.
112k miles, zero complaints.
Springs spring
Frame holds stuff on where it's supposed to and doesn't quiver like a noodle.
Interior materials and components are much better quality than Toy.
Smooth, quiet and powerful at 80mph getting 17mpg, which is the same mileage as the Tacoma I had which hated cruising over 70mph.
The only thing the Toyota did better than the F150 is park...The 154" wheelbase F150 has to be backed into parking spaces the Toy would fit in easily.
The F150 is 10 times the truck and has needed next to nothing in repairs, whereas the Toy needed upgrades out of pocket just to be mediocre.
No regrets.
Post by: OutHouse on May 17, 2021, 03:53:13 PM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on May 17, 2021, 06:21:52 PM
The 2015 TRD will take 31.6s stock without any rub even on rough trails (from my experience so far). I think its a great truck. For mid-size its hard to beat :twocents:
Just curious why one would run totes this big on a small truck?🤔
Post by: JakeLand on May 17, 2021, 06:47:31 PM
Post by: Taco280AI on May 18, 2021, 06:10:51 AM
The 2015 TRD will take 31.6s stock without any rub even on rough trails (from my experience so far). I think its a great truck. For mid-size its hard to beat :twocents:
Just curious why one would run totes this big on a small truck?🤔
That's stock on my 4Runner and some of the Tacomas, 265/70/17
Post by: OutHouse on May 18, 2021, 08:12:05 AM
The 2015 TRD will take 31.6s stock without any rub even on rough trails (from my experience so far). I think its a great truck. For mid-size its hard to beat :twocents:
Just curious why one would run totes this big on a small truck?🤔
Ya know they really don't look that big. It came with 30 by 9.5s on it and so I upped to the BFG KO2 all terrains in 31.6 by 9.5. Next step will be to put the 3 inch leveling kit/lift and put 33s on it when these wear out.
Post by: thinkingman on May 18, 2021, 11:02:16 AM
112,000 miles isn’t much especially on pavement for a aluminum body , wait till it hits 250,000 miles and see if it’s still together. It’s some poising match going on but I just know that I’ll keep driving my Tacoma everywhere I need to goThe same basalt hunting roads in Central Washington that rattled the rear window out of my Tacoma (I'm lucky it didn't drop completely out and break) are no issue for my F150.
Maybe those flexy Toyota frames are by design?
Post by: Tenkara on May 18, 2021, 11:14:27 AM
:lol4:112,000 miles isn’t much especially on pavement for a aluminum body , wait till it hits 250,000 miles and see if it’s still together. It’s some poising match going on but I just know that I’ll keep driving my Tacoma everywhere I need to goThe same basalt hunting roads in Central Washington that rattled the rear window out of my Tacoma (I'm lucky it didn't drop completely out and break) are no issue for my F150.
Maybe those flexy Toyota frames are by design?
Post by: Mudman on May 18, 2021, 12:17:25 PM
Post by: Dan-o on May 18, 2021, 12:56:15 PM
Post by: Fl0und3rz on May 18, 2021, 01:22:05 PM
Do we need to start a GO FUND ME account to buy Thinking man a Toyota?
That'd be like giving a Benjamin to a drunken hobo.
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 18, 2021, 04:44:46 PM
Do we need to start a GO FUND ME account to buy Thinking man a Toyota?
I can't be positive, but he may not like them. If only he'd give us some indication. :dunno:
Post by: Jonathan_S on May 18, 2021, 04:58:47 PM
112,000 miles isn’t much especially on pavement for a aluminum body , wait till it hits 250,000 miles and see if it’s still together. It’s some poising match going on but I just know that I’ll keep driving my Tacoma everywhere I need to goThe same basalt hunting roads in Central Washington that rattled the rear window out of my Tacoma (I'm lucky it didn't drop completely out and break) are no issue for my F150.
Maybe those flexy Toyota frames are by design?
Kind of reminds me if Exo pack users that like a pack to bend with them :o
Post by: MtnMuley on May 18, 2021, 07:21:33 PM
112,000 miles isn’t much especially on pavement for a aluminum body , wait till it hits 250,000 miles and see if it’s still together. It’s some poising match going on but I just know that I’ll keep driving my Tacoma everywhere I need to goThe same basalt hunting roads in Central Washington that rattled the rear window out of my Tacoma (I'm lucky it didn't drop completely out and break) are no issue for my F150.
Maybe those flexy Toyota frames are by design?
Why haven't you bought those flex window tensioners? I've been running them for years on those basalt roads and never had an issue. Even in 5th gear. :dunno:
Post by: Stein on May 18, 2021, 08:24:51 PM
Post by: thinkingman on May 19, 2021, 05:14:30 PM
My old assistant Scout Master said that all roads are smooth at a certain speed, you just need to find the right speed and all is good. He drove an old early 70's station wagon and claimed most gravel roads were like driving on glass around 60 mph. I rode to summer camp with him once, only once. Sometimes it just takes the knowledge and skill to properly operate the machine. :chuckle:
I actually did this two years ago, late into elk camp for archery season.
24psi in the tires and about 40mph on basalt.
It works, though I don't recommend it.
We topped a rise and had 3 screaming bulls and about 80 cows in front of us.
We bailed out into the woods and it was the first time my son was within feet of a screaming bull.
It hooked him on archery elk.
If it wasn't a true-spike season, we would have been tagged out in minutes.
Post by: Mudman on May 19, 2021, 05:26:17 PM
Post by: T_Pott on May 19, 2021, 06:51:54 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on May 19, 2021, 07:14:15 PM
I wanted to get one of the new Rangers but I hate the fact that they look a ridgeline
Considered one for the wife but the F-150 was the obvious choice for us. The Ranger is smaller and nimbler but that shortbed F-150 really fits places.
I hate that Ford got my money but darn it they sure did.
Post by: thinkingman on May 20, 2021, 08:19:14 AM
Do we need to start a GO FUND ME account to buy Thinking man a Toyota?
That'd be like giving a Benjamin to a drunken hobo.
Except I know what a real Benjamin looks like!
:chuckle:
Post by: Mudman on May 20, 2021, 09:12:00 AM
Post by: haftard on June 01, 2021, 03:16:15 PM
Post by: Taco280AI on June 01, 2021, 05:36:20 PM
i havent herd any real complaints about the 3rd gen tacomas.
What?
The motor has no bottom end power. The transmission is constantly hunting for a gear. Many came low on transmission fluid, which required a manual check by the dealer due to its sealed unit, which required them to have it for half the day. And many TSBs for the transmission as they were trying to figure it out for years, not just the first year.
Many people are regearing it or getting the after market program to give it some usable power.
Post by: haftard on June 01, 2021, 07:39:39 PM
Post by: jkononen on June 01, 2021, 07:57:11 PM
i wouldnt get one older then 97-98. in 97 they changed some fule maping and programed the ecu alittle bit better. i would also stay away from the 05-early 07. those trucks have frame issues. ive seen a few of those trucks where the motor mount will tear away from the frame. i havent herd any real complaints about the 3rd gen tacomas. they are not a full size and they are made out of plastic and pop cans. how ever you can get away with towing most things. now the 1st gen tundra is where i would look if you needed somthing alittle more beefy. The 4.8 v8 is a milllion mile motor and the transmission they put in them is a beefy sob.
Never heard of the 4.8 liter?
Post by: haftard on June 02, 2021, 12:31:48 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on June 02, 2021, 09:03:52 AM
i wouldnt get one older then 97-98. in 97 they changed some fule maping and programed the ecu alittle bit better. i would also stay away from the 05-early 07. those trucks have frame issues. ive seen a few of those trucks where the motor mount will tear away from the frame. i havent herd any real complaints about the 3rd gen tacomas. they are not a full size and they are made out of plastic and pop cans. how ever you can get away with towing most things. now the 1st gen tundra is where i would look if you needed somthing alittle more beefy. The 4.8 v8 is a milllion mile motor and the transmission they put in them is a beefy sob.
I had a 4.7 2007 Tundra and it was a great truck.