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Title: need to burn points
Post by: Fire8263 on May 20, 2021, 03:05:26 PM
Moved to Montana and want to use up my Washington points, I have 17 points and have an eastern muzzy tag. any suggestions?
Title: Re: need to burn points
Post by: Ridgerunner on May 20, 2021, 03:26:46 PM
Put in with the fewest number of applicants.  Hope you draw and then figure out the unit.  Problem with muzzy hunts is there are so few tags for each hunt points dont really matter too much.
Title: Re: need to burn points
Post by: Pathfinder101 on May 20, 2021, 03:33:21 PM
Best odds look like Prescott Unit.  Unless you know someone though, you would probably have a terrible time finding elk.  I live here and I honestly don't know where I would go to kill an elk there. 
Next best choice looks like Watershed.  At least there's elk in there... trouble is that you'd be competing with rifle hunters for a bull. 

As mentioned above, anything else is a complete crap-shoot.  Odds are so low that your points mean very little.  I have 20 points this year...
Title: Re: need to burn points
Post by: Karl Blanchard on May 20, 2021, 04:28:08 PM
Your points have no value. They were a lotto ticket. You paid for a chance to win a tag. Thats it. Accept this fact, burn your tag and dive head first into the glory which is resident MT hunting and fishing  :twocents:
Title: Re: need to burn points
Post by: muleyslayer on May 20, 2021, 04:32:51 PM
Your points have no value. They were a lotto ticket. You paid for a chance to win a tag. Thats it. Accept this fact, burn your tag and dive head first into the glory which is resident MT hunting and fishing  :twocents:
Sad but true, the goHUNT insider has made this really hit home for me! 0 points or 30 its all the same!
Title: Re: need to burn points
Post by: Mtnwalker on May 20, 2021, 04:52:34 PM
Your points have no value. They were a lotto ticket. You paid for a chance to win a tag. Thats it. Accept this fact, burn your tag and dive head first into the glory which is resident MT hunting and fishing  :twocents:

 :yeah: 100%. There really is no “burning points” here in WA. Even with your 17 points you’re looking at less than a 10% chance for any quality muzz tag and a lot of those aren’t very quality anyways  :chuckle:
Title: Re: need to burn points
Post by: jackelope on May 20, 2021, 04:59:50 PM
I'd put in for a less than prime permit and see what happens. If you don't draw, take Karl's route.
Observatory comes to mind as one I'd probably look at. Some other Yakima area units like Bethel or Bumping or Rimrock or something like that. Not the Colockum.
Title: Re: need to burn points
Post by: Limhangerslayer on May 20, 2021, 06:32:50 PM
Rimrock is your best chance, but like was said before.  In this shathole state there is no such thing as burning points.
Title: Re: need to burn points
Post by: Magnum_Willys on May 20, 2021, 06:52:06 PM
Moved to Montana and want to use up my Washington points, I have 17 points and have an eastern muzzy tag. any suggestions?

Washington    :brew:
Title: Re: need to burn points
Post by: Fire8263 on May 20, 2021, 07:05:25 PM
Awesome thanks guys, any thoughts on Mountain View? I Have access to horses.
Title: Re: need to burn points
Post by: elkchaser54 on May 21, 2021, 08:39:34 AM
Mountainview added the state land 4-O ranch to that tag so enty of farm fields to hunt on . Wouldn't need horses for that section of that unit.  Central WA tags would be easier to draw with more available compared to the blues with single digits available for each unit. 

But remember Washington is a lottery random draw . Points are just a catalyst to increase your hope not your odds.
Title: Re: need to burn points
Post by: fishngamereaper on May 21, 2021, 10:49:35 AM
Swap your muzzy tag for archery and we can buddy up...I'll burn your points for ya .. :chuckle:

Otherwise I defer to what others have said.
Title: Re: need to burn points
Post by: D-Rock425 on May 21, 2021, 04:45:11 PM
 :chuckle:
Swap your muzzy tag for archery and we can buddy up...I'll burn your points for ya .. :chuckle:

Otherwise I defer to what others have said.
:chuckle:
Title: Re: need to burn points
Post by: NRA4LIFE on May 21, 2021, 05:41:12 PM
There's no such thing as burning points in this state.  Unless you've somehow managed to turn in 10000 poachers.
Title: Re: need to burn points
Post by: kentrek on May 21, 2021, 07:30:05 PM
Put in for what ever you want...nothing says you can't put in next year with 18
Title: Re: need to burn points
Post by: gee_unit360 on May 22, 2021, 12:37:22 AM
Go archery.
Title: Re: need to burn points
Post by: actionshooter on May 22, 2021, 08:37:02 AM
Put in for what ever you want...nothing says you can't put in next year with 18

  If I was moving to Montana, I'm pretty sure Washington wouldn't be getting any more money..... but that does bring up a good question, what's it cost for a non resident to apply for permits   Maybe keep playing WaLotto for a good tag?
Title: Re: need to burn points
Post by: Bob33 on May 22, 2021, 08:44:18 AM
A non-resident elk license is about $500.
Title: Re: need to burn points
Post by: Magnum_Willys on May 22, 2021, 10:25:15 AM
A non-resident elk license is about $500.

If I recall the apps were around $145?   Anyone look?
Title: Re: need to burn points
Post by: Bob33 on May 22, 2021, 10:45:21 AM
A non-resident elk license is about $500.

If I recall the apps were around $145?   Anyone look?
$110 for a non res application, plus the license.
Title: Re: need to burn points
Post by: cem3434 on May 22, 2021, 11:10:25 AM
Wouldn't you have to buy a non-resident tag to apply too? As a resident, you have to buy a tag and specific and I would assume the same to be true for non-residents. Sound like it would pretty expensive to apply with the non-resident license, tag and app fee, without any money being refunded. Like others have said, switch to archery and go for one of the easier tags to draw. When I move out of this hell hole of a liberal cesspool, WDFW won't get one more single cent from me.
Title: Re: need to burn points
Post by: Bob33 on May 22, 2021, 12:07:17 PM
Wouldn't you have to buy a non-resident tag to apply too? As a resident, you have to buy a tag and specific and I would assume the same to be true for non-residents. Sound like it would pretty expensive to apply with the non-resident license, tag and app fee, without any money being refunded. Like others have said, switch to archery and go for one of the easier tags to draw. When I move out of this hell hole of a liberal cesspool, WDFW won't get one more single cent from me.
He would need to buy a license to apply for elk. The license includes a tag.
Title: Re: need to burn points
Post by: kentrek on May 22, 2021, 12:33:17 PM
Put in for what ever you want...nothing says you can't put in next year with 18

  If I was moving to Montana, I'm pretty sure Washington wouldn't be getting any more money..... but that does bring up a good question, what's it cost for a non resident to apply for permits   Maybe keep playing WaLotto for a good tag?

It depends on the tag he wants and his odds....but realistically he could draw alot of tags over the next few years...that would be worth the price

Need to look at the tag, the odds, the cost...compare that to other states & your budget

Now if he had zero points he would be much better off putting the non resident cost of applying into a index fund every year and see what's in that account after 20 years and just buying a tag
Title: Re: need to burn points
Post by: boneaddict on May 22, 2021, 12:48:30 PM
Your points have no value. They were a lotto ticket. You paid for a chance to win a tag. Thats it. Accept this fact, burn your tag and dive head first into the glory which is resident MT hunting and fishing  :twocents:
Pretty much spot on.   Don’t look back.   
Title: Re: need to burn points
Post by: cem3434 on May 22, 2021, 02:13:10 PM
Wouldn't you have to buy a non-resident tag to apply too? As a resident, you have to buy a tag and specific and I would assume the same to be true for non-residents. Sound like it would pretty expensive to apply with the non-resident license, tag and app fee, without any money being refunded. Like others have said, switch to archery and go for one of the easier tags to draw. When I move out of this hell hole of a liberal cesspool, WDFW won't get one more single cent from me.
He would need to buy a license to apply for elk. The license includes a tag.

We are debating semantics I guess. You can buy a license without buying a tag. I was just clarifying that you have to buy a hunting license, a specific elk tag and then an application for the special draws. Regardless, I think you are talking about over $600 all in as a non-resident. With the quality here versus other western states, I would spend my money elsewhere. Like Karl said, don't look back once you hit that state line   :tup:
Title: Re: need to burn points
Post by: jackelope on May 22, 2021, 04:10:35 PM
No refunds here either if you don’t draw.
Title: Re: need to burn points
Post by: Bob33 on May 22, 2021, 05:35:07 PM
No refunds here either if you don’t draw.
But don't forget you can turn your permit in and get your 17 non-resident points back. :chuckle:
Title: Re: need to burn points
Post by: dreamingbig on June 02, 2021, 03:25:52 PM
Moved to Montana and want to use up my Washington points, I have 17 points and have an eastern muzzy tag. any suggestions?
They really aren’t worth anything.  Less than 5% draw odds or worse.


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Title: Re: need to burn points
Post by: dreamingbig on June 02, 2021, 03:26:23 PM
Your points have no value. They were a lotto ticket. You paid for a chance to win a tag. Thats it. Accept this fact, burn your tag and dive head first into the glory which is resident MT hunting and fishing  :twocents:
Amen


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Title: Re: need to burn points
Post by: dreamingbig on June 02, 2021, 03:28:01 PM
Put in for what ever you want...nothing says you can't put in next year with 18

  If I was moving to Montana, I'm pretty sure Washington wouldn't be getting any more money..... but that does bring up a good question, what's it cost for a non resident to apply for permits   Maybe keep playing WaLotto for a good tag?
Expensive but non-residents are in the same hat so no limit on how many of the tags they can draw.


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Title: Re: need to burn points
Post by: Pathfinder101 on June 02, 2021, 03:41:48 PM
Put in for what ever you want...nothing says you can't put in next year with 18

  If I was moving to Montana, I'm pretty sure Washington wouldn't be getting any more money..... but that does bring up a good question, what's it cost for a non resident to apply for permits   Maybe keep playing WaLotto for a good tag?
Expensive but non-residents are in the same hat so no limit on how many of the tags they can draw.


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That seems like an expensive proposition to me, with not a lot of payoff.  I would try to burn my points in WA while you are still a "resident" by drawing something that has decent odds.  If you don't draw... I'd take a bunch of people's advice here and dive into being a Montana resident and don't look back.   :twocents:
Title: Re: need to burn points
Post by: dreamingbig on June 02, 2021, 03:47:21 PM
Pathfinder - agreed.  I was just pointing out that they still have the same crappy odds but at a higher price.


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Title: Re: need to burn points
Post by: Mtnwalker on June 11, 2021, 08:11:28 AM
Well the odds were not in your favor but looks like you managed to draw a tag and burn your points! Pretty awesome, congrats on the draw should be a sweet hunt!  :yike: :tup:
Title: Re: need to burn points
Post by: Pathfinder101 on June 11, 2021, 09:40:26 AM
Well the odds were not in your favor but looks like you managed to draw a tag and burn your points! Pretty awesome, congrats on the draw should be a sweet hunt!  :yike: :tup:

That's great.  What tag did he draw?
Title: Re: need to burn points
Post by: Fire8263 on June 11, 2021, 10:38:44 AM
I drew observatory muzzleloader. crazy I drew on my last year putting in!
Title: Re: need to burn points
Post by: Pathfinder101 on June 11, 2021, 10:48:39 AM
I drew observatory muzzleloader. crazy I drew on my last year putting in!

Congratulations!  I think it's awesome that worked out for you.   :tup:  Make sure you post pictures! 
Title: Re: need to burn points
Post by: Fire8263 on June 11, 2021, 11:02:14 AM
Will do! Pretty pumped!
Title: Re: need to burn points
Post by: Dr.Wise on June 13, 2021, 08:33:25 AM
Mountainview added the state land 4-O ranch to that tag so enty of farm fields to hunt on . Wouldn't need horses for that section of that unit.  Central WA tags would be easier to draw with more available compared to the blues with single digits available for each unit. 

But remember Washington is a lottery random draw . Points are just a catalyst to increase your hope not your odds.
Do you know with the 4-0 ranch if you can drive a 4 wheeler or side by side in?


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Title: Re: need to burn points
Post by: Igottanewknee on June 15, 2021, 02:42:34 PM
I drew observatory muzzleloader. crazy I drew on my last year putting in!
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