Post by: tankcdr66 on May 22, 2021, 12:07:37 PM
Oregon animal rights thugs are seeking to literally outlaw livestock production in an initiative that state human hate groups are collecting signatures to get on the November ballot. If this passes, the entire livestock industry will be criminalized since there will be very little under the state’s animal cruelty laws that would not be considered a crime punishable with jail time and heavy fines.
Anti-animal ag initiative raises alarm among Oregon farm group
Initiative Petition 13 would strip away most protections for livestock producers under the state’s animal abuse laws
By George Plaven EO Media Group May 14, 2021
Animal agriculture could soon be considered animal cruelty under a proposed ballot measure in Oregon.
Farm groups are pushing back against Initiative Petition 13, which would strip away most protections for livestock producers under the state’s animal abuse laws.
The result would effectively criminalize everything from slaughtering livestock to basic animal husbandry, including branding and dehorning cattle, castrating bulls and docking horses, sheep and pigs, said Mary Anne Cooper, vice president of public policy for the Oregon Farm Bureau.
The initiative also seeks to re-classify livestock breeding and artificial insemination as sexual assault of an animal — a Class C felony.
“It’s a very different tack than we have ever seen before,” Cooper said. “Basically, they’re looking to ban anything with animals that is not doctoring.”
Initiative Petition 13 was filed Nov. 2, 2020, with the Oregon Secretary of State’s office. The chief petitioner is David Michelson, a Portland animal rights activist.
A similar proposal, called the Protect Animals from Unnecessary Suffering and Exploitation, or PAUSE, Act is also being pursued in Colorado.
The Oregon campaign recently cleared its first regulatory hurdle, submitting 1,000 sponsorship signatures for verification on April 28. If approved, supporters will need to collect 112,020 signatures to place the initiative on the November 2022 ballot.
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I am sure WA will be next in line just like the ban on hound hunting and baiting after it was passed in Oregon.
Post by: smalldog on May 23, 2021, 09:15:38 PM
Post by: KopperBuck on May 24, 2021, 10:55:42 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 24, 2021, 12:23:28 PM
What's even scarier is how much of a disadvantage we are in OR vs WA. The best thing about E OR vs E WA is we don't have Tri Cities, Spokane, Yakima, etc... the worst thing is we have no population base. I think this ID/OR/WA deal will gain more traction than people think, especially in OR. I've been a skeptic for a long time (love the idea, worry about the process), but I'm starting to come around.
The petition may get enough signatures (doubtful), but the initiative would go down in flames. Even OR isn't stupid enough to make raising livestock for meat illegal. And, re-drawing state lines would need to be part of a Convention of States, I believe. I'm unsure that Congress has the power to do that, even if they wanted to. And they don't want to.
Post by: trophyhunt on May 24, 2021, 12:27:01 PM
Wouldn't all 50 states have to approve this type of action? Or is moving boundary lines different than creating a whole new state?What's even scarier is how much of a disadvantage we are in OR vs WA. The best thing about E OR vs E WA is we don't have Tri Cities, Spokane, Yakima, etc... the worst thing is we have no population base. I think this ID/OR/WA deal will gain more traction than people think, especially in OR. I've been a skeptic for a long time (love the idea, worry about the process), but I'm starting to come around.
The petition may get enough signatures (doubtful), but the initiative would go down in flames. Even OR isn't stupid enough to make raising livestock for meat illegal. And, re-drawing state lines would need to be part of a Convention of States, I believe. I'm unsure that Congress has the power to do that, even if they wanted to. And they don't want to.
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 24, 2021, 12:34:19 PM
Wouldn't all 50 states have to approve this type of action? Or is moving boundary lines different than creating a whole new state?What's even scarier is how much of a disadvantage we are in OR vs WA. The best thing about E OR vs E WA is we don't have Tri Cities, Spokane, Yakima, etc... the worst thing is we have no population base. I think this ID/OR/WA deal will gain more traction than people think, especially in OR. I've been a skeptic for a long time (love the idea, worry about the process), but I'm starting to come around.
The petition may get enough signatures (doubtful), but the initiative would go down in flames. Even OR isn't stupid enough to make raising livestock for meat illegal. And, re-drawing state lines would need to be part of a Convention of States, I believe. I'm unsure that Congress has the power to do that, even if they wanted to. And they don't want to.
I believe a super majority of states would need to approve it, either as an Amendment or in a Convention of States. Same with federal term limits.
Post by: KopperBuck on May 24, 2021, 12:50:24 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 24, 2021, 01:00:39 PM
I agree, it seems too big a hurdle. At minimum it's a great discussion. But I'm telling you, it's getting momentum. Will it happen? Doubt it, but it's gonna make some people come to the table. The division in this state is 5x as bad as WA.
IDK. E. WA is pretty fed-up. So are the conservatives on the west side. We have almost no representation and certainly none at the Federal level with out two socialist senators and our RINO republicans who try to please everyone.
Post by: kselkhunter on May 24, 2021, 01:09:13 PM
Post by: Cougartail on May 24, 2021, 01:22:04 PM
Just because stupid people create ballot initiatives doesn't mean it'll pass. There is zero chance this initiative would pass in Oregon.
10 years ago there was zero chance boys could shower with girls in our schools. Give it time. lol
Post by: GWP on May 24, 2021, 04:50:09 PM
Post by: Taco280AI on May 24, 2021, 05:06:20 PM
Just because stupid people create ballot initiatives doesn't mean it'll pass. There is zero chance this initiative would pass in Oregon.
Hopefully the insanity of the extreme left doesn't surprise you.
Post by: nwwanderer on May 24, 2021, 05:45:18 PM
Post by: csaaphill on May 26, 2021, 05:10:10 PM
Post by: csaaphill on May 28, 2021, 03:56:51 PM
https://impossiblefoods.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impossible_Foods
look at who is the main money backer of this company.
Financing
Impossible Foods has raised rounds of $75 million and $108 million from investors including Google Ventures, Khosla Ventures, Viking Global Investors, UBS,[60] Hong Kong billionaire Li Ka-shing's Horizons Ventures, and Bill Gates.[61] It was reported that Patrick Brown had turned down an offer of $300 million to buy out Impossible Foods in 2015.[41][62]
In May 2016, an additional $16.5 million was raised from debt financing.[63] In August 2017, $75 million in additional financing was raised after reaching key objectives,[64] with Bill Gates investing additional money.[65] In April 2018, an additional $114 million was raised, led by Singapore’s Temasek Holdings and Hong Kong-based Sailing Capital, bringing the total to $372 million.[66] In May 2019, the company raised $300 million of investment.[67] The total valuation of the company raised to $2 billion.[68] On March 16, 2020, another $500 million was raised.[69]
In total, Impossible Foods has raised $1.3 billion over 12 rounds of funding.[70][71][72] In August of 2020, the company raised another $200 Million USD in an internal round led by existing investor Coatue.[73]
link about the bill itself.
https://naturalresourcereport.com/2021/05/initiative-petition-13-brings-chaos-to-oregons-livestock-industry/
Post by: csaaphill on May 28, 2021, 04:22:00 PM
http://oregonvotes.org/irr/2022/013text.pdf
and the site for this petition that the pdf is from.
https://www.yesonip13.org/
From what I see in their site and in the language of the petition is that a rancher could only sell or use the carcass after it has died: IE: natural causes. meaning YES even though it's stated in the language that animal husbandry is exempt they couldn't sell or slaughter any until they die of natural causes.
This passes and even if not now later on it probably would and not that long from now due to the current situation we are seeing, the Poaching of a cow will rise!
Post by: csaaphill on May 28, 2021, 04:32:52 PM
Has I13 made it on the ballot? Very scary stuff. Would end hunting toono! not yet it's slated or they want it to be on the 2022 ballot.
And yes! you can guarantee that if this passes hunting would be ended in all but defending oneself or something, but then again if you can't legally hunt you won't be able to be out in the field at all, so self-defense wouldn't be that viable of a defense.
Post by: konradcountry on June 06, 2021, 01:07:07 PM
The initiative also seeks to re-classify livestock breeding and artificial insemination as sexual assault of an animal — a Class C felony.
The dairy industry would flip out if this went anywhere. This would cost them millions and put nearby states at an advantage.
Whoever wrote this went way too far. These vegan activists are their own worst enemy.