Post by: hard hunter on June 04, 2021, 07:40:07 AM
Results should be released by July 10
Post by: Shooter4 on June 04, 2021, 08:27:37 AM
Post by: KFhunter on June 04, 2021, 08:54:08 AM
And remember, $80 for your muzzy or archery stamp this year if you draw a muzzy or archery tagYa, that fee is irritating
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 04, 2021, 09:41:27 AM
Do you know when they usually draw quick turnover?last year was June 19th a bit after 1pm
Post by: Dhoey07 on June 04, 2021, 01:07:10 PM
Post by: dreamingbig on June 04, 2021, 01:29:35 PM
Yep. I don’t know why they discount the rifle tags.its absurd and insulting.And remember, $80 for your muzzy or archery stamp this year if you draw a muzzy or archery tagYa, that fee is irritating
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Post by: Kurt_S on June 04, 2021, 07:10:47 PM
Absolutely. I refuse to pay it. I'll go archery hunt nevada or colorado for deer insteadits absurd and insulting.And remember, $80 for your muzzy or archery stamp this year if you draw a muzzy or archery tagYa, that fee is irritating
Post by: jowings22 on June 04, 2021, 08:44:22 PM
Post by: Mtnwalker on June 04, 2021, 08:46:12 PM
I’m in. Donating money to ID is less painful than donating to WA.
100%
Post by: Broomd on June 04, 2021, 10:28:14 PM
Post by: cem3434 on June 04, 2021, 10:45:22 PM
And remember...If you hunt (or fish) unit 5 (CDA tribe reservation) there is a new $600 use fee for folks under 55 y/o who don't live on the reservation. This pertains to Idaho Residents as well.
I'm sure a lot of guys will be pissed when they find this out after buying a unit 5 deer tag without realizing this. I almost bought a deer tag there, but went with another unit after learning this info. Idaho just got my application donation, so good luck to everyone in the draw. :tup:
Post by: hard hunter on June 04, 2021, 11:16:01 PM
And remember...If you hunt (or fish) unit 5 (CDA tribe reservation) there is a new $600 use fee for folks under 55 y/o who don't live on the reservation. This pertains to Idaho Residents as well.
Could be really interesting...I still have not received an answer from the BIA about the legality of this fee (2 emails and multiple weeks waiting). I have also heard that some of the state prosecutors think this is illegal and will not be prosecuting. If it is not legal will I get my money back from the tribe?
Post by: cem3434 on June 05, 2021, 06:56:39 AM
Post by: idahohuntr on June 05, 2021, 09:11:12 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on June 05, 2021, 09:23:13 AM
Post by: jjhunter on June 05, 2021, 09:26:49 AM
Post by: hard hunter on June 06, 2021, 01:05:59 AM
Could be really interesting...I still have not received an answer from the BIA about the legality of this fee (2 emails and multiple weeks waiting). I have also heard that some of the state prosecutors think this is illegal and will not be prosecuting. If it is not legal will I get my money back from the tribe?
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Just to clarify my question for the BIA and what I am talking about is the "free land" owned by non-tribal members that is on the reservation.
Post by: Jingles on June 06, 2021, 07:48:21 AM
And remember...If you hunt (or fish) unit 5 (CDA tribe reservation) there is a new $600 use fee for folks under 55 y/o who don't live on the reservation. This pertains to Idaho Residents as well.Would this be a good example for turn about is fair play? Say a $600.00 usage fee for their "ceremonial hunts" on non tribal lands! Sure sounds fair to me. Instead of allowing out of season taking trophy game for "ceremonial" purposes
Post by: HillHound on June 06, 2021, 08:22:50 AM
Post by: cem3434 on June 06, 2021, 09:40:24 AM
Just to clarify my question for the BIA and what I am talking about is the "free land" owned by non-tribal members that is on the reservation.
There is no "free land" on reservations. Ceded lands are ceded lands, so the tribe could technically come take them from a non tribal person at any time. Usually, the deed states that you're leasing the ground for a term, but non tribal members can never truly own ceded lands. Again, the state has no jurisdiction on ceded land and you would end up in tribal court, so we all know how that would end.
Post by: meatwhack on June 06, 2021, 12:36:14 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on June 06, 2021, 03:18:12 PM
I wonder what would happen if you just didn’t show up to tribal court.:yeah:
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on June 07, 2021, 05:26:40 PM
The Couer D’Alene and Nez Perce both have sold off significant portions of their land, it is no longer part of the reservation, if it were only in long term leases you wouldn’t see the ownership info on onX which bases their land ownership maps on county records
Just to clarify my question for the BIA and what I am talking about is the "free land" owned by non-tribal members that is on the reservation.
There is no "free land" on reservations. Ceded lands are ceded lands, so the tribe could technically come take them from a non tribal person at any time. Usually, the deed states that you're leasing the ground for a term, but non tribal members can never truly own ceded lands. Again, the state has no jurisdiction on ceded land and you would end up in tribal court, so we all know how that would end.
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Post by: Nape6.5 on June 08, 2021, 10:00:52 AM
Post by: 2MANY on June 08, 2021, 10:03:22 AM
Post by: Nape6.5 on June 08, 2021, 10:04:52 AM
If you draw a controlled hunt in idaho how long do they give you to purchase??Aug 1
thanks :tup:
Post by: Machias on June 08, 2021, 10:07:18 AM
Just to clarify my question for the BIA and what I am talking about is the "free land" owned by non-tribal members that is on the reservation.
There is no "free land" on reservations. Ceded lands are ceded lands, so the tribe could technically come take them from a non tribal person at any time. Usually, the deed states that you're leasing the ground for a term, but non tribal members can never truly own ceded lands. Again, the state has no jurisdiction on ceded land and you would end up in tribal court, so we all know how that would end.
Not true at all.
Post by: cem3434 on June 09, 2021, 08:46:42 PM
The Couer D’Alene and Nez Perce both have sold off significant portions of their land, it is no longer part of the reservation, if it were only in long term leases you wouldn’t see the ownership info on onX which bases their land ownership maps on county records
Just to clarify my question for the BIA and what I am talking about is the "free land" owned by non-tribal members that is on the reservation.
There is no "free land" on reservations. Ceded lands are ceded lands, so the tribe could technically come take them from a non tribal person at any time. Usually, the deed states that you're leasing the ground for a term, but non tribal members can never truly own ceded lands. Again, the state has no jurisdiction on ceded land and you would end up in tribal court, so we all know how that would end.
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They would have to get approval from the Feds and BIA to do so. That is the only way coded lands can be sold based on my understanding of the laws.
Post by: cem3434 on June 09, 2021, 08:50:13 PM
Just to clarify my question for the BIA and what I am talking about is the "free land" owned by non-tribal members that is on the reservation.
There is no "free land" on reservations. Ceded lands are ceded lands, so the tribe could technically come take them from a non tribal person at any time. Usually, the deed states that you're leasing the ground for a term, but non tribal members can never truly own ceded lands. Again, the state has no jurisdiction on ceded land and you would end up in tribal court, so we all know how that would end.
Not true at all.
What part is not true? There are steps that have to be taken on a federal level to sell ceded lands. They essentially have to get permission on a federal level to remove the property from being ceded lands.
Post by: hard hunter on June 10, 2021, 12:25:26 AM
Post by: Machias on June 10, 2021, 10:05:11 AM
Post by: idahohuntr on June 10, 2021, 10:36:33 AM
For the hunting fee...Those mentioning they would just not show up to Tribal court...jurisdiction can get messy...but if you hunt on reservation lands, don't pay the fee, and get caught, as a non-indian I'd say you will most likely end up in federal court. I'm not that familiar with CDA reservation hunting regs, but I have no doubt on trust lands the Tribe can enforce whatever they want and if you break the law (hunt without paying the fee) I'd guess its actually going to be a lot more severe penalty than if you just walked over to someones private ranch and shot a deer off their property. :twocents:
Post by: Machias on June 10, 2021, 11:32:11 AM
For the hunting fee...Those mentioning they would just not show up to Tribal court...jurisdiction can get messy...but if you hunt on reservation lands, don't pay the fee, and get caught, as a non-indian I'd say you will most likely end up in federal court. I'm not that familiar with CDA reservation hunting regs, but I have no doubt on trust lands the Tribe can enforce whatever they want and if you break the law (hunt without paying the fee) I'd guess its actually going to be a lot more severe penalty than if you just walked over to someones private ranch and shot a deer off their property. :twocents:
:yeah:
Post by: meatwhack on June 10, 2021, 03:13:50 PM
The reason there are privately held lands within the bounds of a reservation is a result of the Dawes Act (~1887), as noted above. This act conveyed a lot of tribal reservation lands to individual tribal members, who were then able to sell to non-indians if/as they desired. The Dawes Act was a policy intended to breakup/assimilate Tribes with western culture and that is why you have so many non-tribal members who own land within reservations like the CDA or Nez Perce. Simple fee owned lands within a reservation boundary are not subject to any action by the Tribe...they can buy them from a willing seller and convert them to trust lands if they desire, but no Tribe is going to 'take' those lands. Tribes do sometimes lease trust land, so if someone leases land from a Tribe then yes, the Tribe could theoretically kick you off at some point.
For the hunting fee...Those mentioning they would just not show up to Tribal court...jurisdiction can get messy...but if you hunt on reservation lands, don't pay the fee, and get caught, as a non-indian I'd say you will most likely end up in federal court. I'm not that familiar with CDA reservation hunting regs, but I have no doubt on trust lands the Tribe can enforce whatever they want and if you break the law (hunt without paying the fee) I'd guess its actually going to be a lot more severe penalty than if you just walked over to someones private ranch and shot a deer off their property. :twocents:
When you say “reservation lands” are you talking about all land within the reservation boundary which would include a large amount of private land that the Indians have no control over, or the actual tribal owned land within the reservation.
Post by: Pathfinder101 on June 10, 2021, 03:30:10 PM
Post by: jowings22 on June 10, 2021, 03:51:43 PM
Post by: idaho guy on June 10, 2021, 04:22:10 PM
The reason there are privately held lands within the bounds of a reservation is a result of the Dawes Act (~1887), as noted above. This act conveyed a lot of tribal reservation lands to individual tribal members, who were then able to sell to non-indians if/as they desired. The Dawes Act was a policy intended to breakup/assimilate Tribes with western culture and that is why you have so many non-tribal members who own land within reservations like the CDA or Nez Perce. Simple fee owned lands within a reservation boundary are not subject to any action by the Tribe...they can buy them from a willing seller and convert them to trust lands if they desire, but no Tribe is going to 'take' those lands. Tribes do sometimes lease trust land, so if someone leases land from a Tribe then yes, the Tribe could theoretically kick you off at some point.
For the hunting fee...Those mentioning they would just not show up to Tribal court...jurisdiction can get messy...but if you hunt on reservation lands, don't pay the fee, and get caught, as a non-indian I'd say you will most likely end up in federal court. I'm not that familiar with CDA reservation hunting regs, but I have no doubt on trust lands the Tribe can enforce whatever they want and if you break the law (hunt without paying the fee) I'd guess its actually going to be a lot more severe penalty than if you just walked over to someones private ranch and shot a deer off their property. :twocents:
When you say “reservation lands” are you talking about all land within the reservation boundary which would include a large amount of private land that the Indians have no control over, or the actual tribal owned land within the reservation.
Thats what I have been wondering about. The way I read it the language from the tribe says ALL land within the reservation boundarys which would include private land. I am not sure I am interpreting it right and I hear different viewpoints on this but if you end up in tribal court I don't think it matters how anyone interprets it other than the tribe because you will be in THEIR court. Not showing up to court I think would end very poorly. If anyone has any kind of clarity on this it would be great since I hunt some open private timberground within the reservation and I cant seem to get a straight answer. I guess I could call the tribe but i prefer the expert advice of internet forums :chuckle: I am guessing there is a lot of people that wont take it serious and a bunch of tickets written. Im already hearing a lot of redneck bar stool opinions of basically "screw em" i am not paying. It will be an interesting year . Anyways if anyone knows factual information on private ground within the reservation i would appreciate it
Post by: idaho guy on June 10, 2021, 04:25:23 PM
Post by: ffhoofer on June 10, 2021, 04:38:41 PM
Post by: idahohuntr on June 10, 2021, 05:12:37 PM
While a bit off topic, the Idaho draw is at least a week out...so we've got some time to kill :chuckle:The reason there are privately held lands within the bounds of a reservation is a result of the Dawes Act (~1887), as noted above. This act conveyed a lot of tribal reservation lands to individual tribal members, who were then able to sell to non-indians if/as they desired. The Dawes Act was a policy intended to breakup/assimilate Tribes with western culture and that is why you have so many non-tribal members who own land within reservations like the CDA or Nez Perce. Simple fee owned lands within a reservation boundary are not subject to any action by the Tribe...they can buy them from a willing seller and convert them to trust lands if they desire, but no Tribe is going to 'take' those lands. Tribes do sometimes lease trust land, so if someone leases land from a Tribe then yes, the Tribe could theoretically kick you off at some point.
For the hunting fee...Those mentioning they would just not show up to Tribal court...jurisdiction can get messy...but if you hunt on reservation lands, don't pay the fee, and get caught, as a non-indian I'd say you will most likely end up in federal court. I'm not that familiar with CDA reservation hunting regs, but I have no doubt on trust lands the Tribe can enforce whatever they want and if you break the law (hunt without paying the fee) I'd guess its actually going to be a lot more severe penalty than if you just walked over to someones private ranch and shot a deer off their property. :twocents:
When you say “reservation lands” are you talking about all land within the reservation boundary which would include a large amount of private land that the Indians have no control over, or the actual tribal owned land within the reservation.
Thats what I have been wondering about. The way I read it the language from the tribe says ALL land within the reservation boundarys which would include private land. I am not sure I am interpreting it right and I hear different viewpoints on this but if you end up in tribal court I don't think it matters how anyone interprets it other than the tribe because you will be in THEIR court. Not showing up to court I think would end very poorly. If anyone has any kind of clarity on this it would be great since I hunt some open private timberground within the reservation and I cant seem to get a straight answer. I guess I could call the tribe but i prefer the expert advice of internet forums :chuckle: I am guessing there is a lot of people that wont take it serious and a bunch of tickets written. Im already hearing a lot of redneck bar stool opinions of basically "screw em" i am not paying. It will be an interesting year . Anyways if anyone knows factual information on private ground within the reservation i would appreciate it
Reservation lands are the lands specifically held in trust for the Tribe and land ownership maps will show them as tribal trust lands. Usually these lands are within the bounds of an Indian Reservation. It does not include private or public lands, even if they are within the boundary of the reservation.
I'm unaware of anything that would give the Tribe jurisdiction over non-tribal lands within a reservation. I do not know precisely what the CDA Tribe position may be (or what they are asserting), but I hunt a ton of non-tribal land within the boundaries of Indian Reservations in Idaho all the time and the Tribe has literally zero jurisdiction. IF you are hunting (or wanting to hunt) on CDA Tribe trust land, you'd better follow their rules. If you are not, and you are not an enrolled tribal member, you follow the IDFG rules.
Post by: idaho guy on June 10, 2021, 05:49:34 PM
While a bit off topic, the Idaho draw is at least a week out...so we've got some time to kill :chuckle:The reason there are privately held lands within the bounds of a reservation is a result of the Dawes Act (~1887), as noted above. This act conveyed a lot of tribal reservation lands to individual tribal members, who were then able to sell to non-indians if/as they desired. The Dawes Act was a policy intended to breakup/assimilate Tribes with western culture and that is why you have so many non-tribal members who own land within reservations like the CDA or Nez Perce. Simple fee owned lands within a reservation boundary are not subject to any action by the Tribe...they can buy them from a willing seller and convert them to trust lands if they desire, but no Tribe is going to 'take' those lands. Tribes do sometimes lease trust land, so if someone leases land from a Tribe then yes, the Tribe could theoretically kick you off at some point.
For the hunting fee...Those mentioning they would just not show up to Tribal court...jurisdiction can get messy...but if you hunt on reservation lands, don't pay the fee, and get caught, as a non-indian I'd say you will most likely end up in federal court. I'm not that familiar with CDA reservation hunting regs, but I have no doubt on trust lands the Tribe can enforce whatever they want and if you break the law (hunt without paying the fee) I'd guess its actually going to be a lot more severe penalty than if you just walked over to someones private ranch and shot a deer off their property. :twocents:
When you say “reservation lands” are you talking about all land within the reservation boundary which would include a large amount of private land that the Indians have no control over, or the actual tribal owned land within the reservation.
Thats what I have been wondering about. The way I read it the language from the tribe says ALL land within the reservation boundarys which would include private land. I am not sure I am interpreting it right and I hear different viewpoints on this but if you end up in tribal court I don't think it matters how anyone interprets it other than the tribe because you will be in THEIR court. Not showing up to court I think would end very poorly. If anyone has any kind of clarity on this it would be great since I hunt some open private timberground within the reservation and I cant seem to get a straight answer. I guess I could call the tribe but i prefer the expert advice of internet forums :chuckle: I am guessing there is a lot of people that wont take it serious and a bunch of tickets written. Im already hearing a lot of redneck bar stool opinions of basically "screw em" i am not paying. It will be an interesting year . Anyways if anyone knows factual information on private ground within the reservation i would appreciate it
Reservation lands are the lands specifically held in trust for the Tribe and land ownership maps will show them as tribal trust lands. Usually these lands are within the bounds of an Indian Reservation. It does not include private or public lands, even if they are within the boundary of the reservation.
I'm unaware of anything that would give the Tribe jurisdiction over non-tribal lands within a reservation. I do not know precisely what the CDA Tribe position may be (or what they are asserting), but I hunt a ton of non-tribal land within the boundaries of Indian Reservations in Idaho all the time and the Tribe has literally zero jurisdiction. IF you are hunting (or wanting to hunt) on CDA Tribe trust land, you'd better follow their rules. If you are not, and you are not an enrolled tribal member, you follow the IDFG rules.
:tup: Thanks! Very helpful and that's what I was thinking and hoping
Post by: Jimmy33 on June 10, 2021, 09:02:48 PM
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Post by: Machias on June 13, 2021, 09:02:09 PM
While a bit off topic, the Idaho draw is at least a week out...so we've got some time to kill :chuckle:The reason there are privately held lands within the bounds of a reservation is a result of the Dawes Act (~1887), as noted above. This act conveyed a lot of tribal reservation lands to individual tribal members, who were then able to sell to non-indians if/as they desired. The Dawes Act was a policy intended to breakup/assimilate Tribes with western culture and that is why you have so many non-tribal members who own land within reservations like the CDA or Nez Perce. Simple fee owned lands within a reservation boundary are not subject to any action by the Tribe...they can buy them from a willing seller and convert them to trust lands if they desire, but no Tribe is going to 'take' those lands. Tribes do sometimes lease trust land, so if someone leases land from a Tribe then yes, the Tribe could theoretically kick you off at some point.
For the hunting fee...Those mentioning they would just not show up to Tribal court...jurisdiction can get messy...but if you hunt on reservation lands, don't pay the fee, and get caught, as a non-indian I'd say you will most likely end up in federal court. I'm not that familiar with CDA reservation hunting regs, but I have no doubt on trust lands the Tribe can enforce whatever they want and if you break the law (hunt without paying the fee) I'd guess its actually going to be a lot more severe penalty than if you just walked over to someones private ranch and shot a deer off their property. :twocents:
When you say “reservation lands” are you talking about all land within the reservation boundary which would include a large amount of private land that the Indians have no control over, or the actual tribal owned land within the reservation.
Thats what I have been wondering about. The way I read it the language from the tribe says ALL land within the reservation boundarys which would include private land. I am not sure I am interpreting it right and I hear different viewpoints on this but if you end up in tribal court I don't think it matters how anyone interprets it other than the tribe because you will be in THEIR court. Not showing up to court I think would end very poorly. If anyone has any kind of clarity on this it would be great since I hunt some open private timberground within the reservation and I cant seem to get a straight answer. I guess I could call the tribe but i prefer the expert advice of internet forums :chuckle: I am guessing there is a lot of people that wont take it serious and a bunch of tickets written. Im already hearing a lot of redneck bar stool opinions of basically "screw em" i am not paying. It will be an interesting year . Anyways if anyone knows factual information on private ground within the reservation i would appreciate it
Reservation lands are the lands specifically held in trust for the Tribe and land ownership maps will show them as tribal trust lands. Usually these lands are within the bounds of an Indian Reservation. It does not include private or public lands, even if they are within the boundary of the reservation.
I'm unaware of anything that would give the Tribe jurisdiction over non-tribal lands within a reservation. I do not know precisely what the CDA Tribe position may be (or what they are asserting), but I hunt a ton of non-tribal land within the boundaries of Indian Reservations in Idaho all the time and the Tribe has literally zero jurisdiction. IF you are hunting (or wanting to hunt) on CDA Tribe trust land, you'd better follow their rules. If you are not, and you are not an enrolled tribal member, you follow the IDFG rules.
:tup: Thanks! Very helpful and that's what I was thinking and hoping
That is not how the Tribe's regulations read. There is still on going discussion going on. Here is the Tribes regulation. Read the first pages:
https://www.cdatribe-nsn.gov/nr/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2021/02/2021_resident_nonresident_regulations-final.pdf
If you decide to hunt and/or fish within the boundaries of the
Coeur d’Alene Indian Reservation, I want to remind you that
these regulations, and related tribal code, apply to you. It is
important to honor them and remain in compliance so we
can continue to offer these opportunities well into the future.
These laws exist, first and foremost, to protect you as a
hunter/fisher, to protect our animals and the environment they call home, and to protect our many
landowners. Additionally, we ask that you respect the members of the Coeur d’Alene Tribe as they
are out engaging in their hunting rights in these same lands.
You may contact our Fisheries and Wildlife Programs if you need any additional information for your
outings. Our goal is to provide a fulfilling experience for everyone who decides to hunt within our
reservation. Lim lemtsh (thank you).
Post by: Machias on June 13, 2021, 09:03:40 PM
others. The Tribe and its members retain the right to hunt and fish without state regulation in the total
area originally enclosed in the Reservation proclaimed by the President of the United States in 1873.
All wildlife, including all wild animals, wild birds, and fish within the Coeur d’Alene Reservation and
other areas over which the Tribe exercises authority are the exclusive property of the Coeur d’Alene
Tribe.
Post by: idahohuntr on June 13, 2021, 09:56:39 PM
Post by: Machias on June 14, 2021, 08:59:50 AM
Back to the topic, good luck everyone on your draws. My wife and I are both in for an extra whitetail doe tag.
Post by: Nape6.5 on June 14, 2021, 10:53:45 AM
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on June 14, 2021, 10:57:59 AM
Will the drew happen this week??After the debacle that the sheep and goat draw turned into I would expect to be waiting at least 1 more week
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Post by: Nape6.5 on June 14, 2021, 11:21:49 AM
Will the drew happen this week??After the debacle that the sheep and goat draw turned into I would expect to be waiting at least 1 more week
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Post by: idahohuntr on June 14, 2021, 05:29:53 PM
Supposedly IDFG are still grappling with this. I can see some sportsmen getting stuck in the middle of this power struggle.There is no power struggle...this is decided case law. The Supreme Court ruled on this exact issue in 1981 (see Montana v. United States) and ruled that Tribes do not have authority to regulate non-member hunting and fishing on non-tribal lands WITHIN an Indian Reservation. The CDA Tribe does not have jurisdiction over non-tribal lands within the reservation except in extremely narrow applications, mostly laid out in Montana v. United States.
I hate to keep replying to this side topic, but I would hate for misinformation to give any sportsmen doubt about areas they can hunt...whether in Idaho, Montana, Washington, Wyoming...and all the other western states with Indian Reservations.
Post by: Machias on June 14, 2021, 07:26:53 PM
Supposedly IDFG are still grappling with this. I can see some sportsmen getting stuck in the middle of this power struggle.There is no power struggle...this is decided case law. The Supreme Court ruled on this exact issue in 1981 (see Montana v. United States) and ruled that Tribes do not have authority to regulate non-member hunting and fishing on non-tribal lands WITHIN an Indian Reservation. The CDA Tribe does not have jurisdiction over non-tribal lands within the reservation except in extremely narrow applications, mostly laid out in Montana v. United States.
I hate to keep replying to this side topic, but I would hate for misinformation to give any sportsmen doubt about areas they can hunt...whether in Idaho, Montana, Washington, Wyoming...and all the other western states with Indian Reservations.
Good to know, thanks!!! Probably most of the mis-information/concern is sportsmen chatting amongst ourselves.
Post by: idaho guy on June 14, 2021, 08:46:50 PM
Supposedly IDFG are still grappling with this. I can see some sportsmen getting stuck in the middle of this power struggle.There is no power struggle...this is decided case law. The Supreme Court ruled on this exact issue in 1981 (see Montana v. United States) and ruled that Tribes do not have authority to regulate non-member hunting and fishing on non-tribal lands WITHIN an Indian Reservation. The CDA Tribe does not have jurisdiction over non-tribal lands within the reservation except in extremely narrow applications, mostly laid out in Montana v. United States.
I hate to keep replying to this side topic, but I would hate for misinformation to give any sportsmen doubt about areas they can hunt...whether in Idaho, Montana, Washington, Wyoming...and all the other western states with Indian Reservations.
:tup: Great information thanks for posting. I heard the same thing as machias on basic fight or disagreement between idfg and the tribe over private within the reservation. Keep posting you’re not derailing a thread that will just be dnry for a while.
Post by: idahohuntr on June 14, 2021, 09:47:08 PM
And yes...dnry :chuckle:
Post by: Jonathan_S on June 15, 2021, 06:21:35 AM
Who needs a job or a wife right?
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 15, 2021, 07:35:20 AM
I really hope Idaho doesn't do something stupid and give me a tag to purchase. Problem is, I applied for hunts that I'll be sorely tempted to buy anyway.what's one more :chuckle:
Who needs a job or a wife right?
Post by: Jimmy33 on June 15, 2021, 07:53:24 AM
I really hope Idaho doesn't do something stupid and give me a tag to purchase. Problem is, I applied for hunts that I'll be sorely tempted to buy anyway.If its a 45 muzzy tag I’ll take it!
Who needs a job or a wife right?
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Post by: Jonathan_S on June 15, 2021, 08:36:25 AM
I really hope Idaho doesn't do something stupid and give me a tag to purchase. Problem is, I applied for hunts that I'll be sorely tempted to buy anyway.what's one more :chuckle:
Who needs a job or a wife right?
I feel like it would be disrespectful to the Tag Gods if I turn down the blessing :dunno:
I really hope Idaho doesn't do something stupid and give me a tag to purchase. Problem is, I applied for hunts that I'll be sorely tempted to buy anyway.If its a 45 muzzy tag I’ll take it!
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I'd rather crawl across broken glass than give up that tag :chuckle:
Post by: Jimmy33 on June 15, 2021, 09:13:29 AM
Me tooI really hope Idaho doesn't do something stupid and give me a tag to purchase. Problem is, I applied for hunts that I'll be sorely tempted to buy anyway.what's one more :chuckle:
Who needs a job or a wife right?
I feel like it would be disrespectful to the Tag Gods if I turn down the blessing :dunno:I really hope Idaho doesn't do something stupid and give me a tag to purchase. Problem is, I applied for hunts that I'll be sorely tempted to buy anyway.If its a 45 muzzy tag I’ll take it!
Who needs a job or a wife right?
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I'd rather crawl across broken glass than give up that tag :chuckle:
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Post by: Jimmy33 on June 17, 2021, 11:38:23 AM
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Post by: jjhunter on June 17, 2021, 11:41:56 AM
Post by: Jimmy33 on June 17, 2021, 11:47:26 AM
You guys must have never hunted 45 in early October? :chuckle:I wish I would get the chance…I go back and forth between that hunt and another hunt every other year…havent drawn either of them. I have a friend who has drawn the tag several times…needless to say thats why I put in for it.
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Post by: jjhunter on June 17, 2021, 12:01:37 PM
Post by: Jimmy33 on June 17, 2021, 12:05:43 PM
I’ve done it twice. It can be an ass kicker compared to late Oct.So I now have two official reasons not to like you…you have drawn both tags that I apply for and I havent drawn either of them in years of trying…good job to you! Send me some of your good luck please…
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Post by: jjhunter on June 17, 2021, 12:25:56 PM
Post by: Jimmy33 on June 17, 2021, 02:06:41 PM
It was a different deal 10 years ago. You could almost count on drawing. More tags and more options.Ive drawn 11 elk tags in various states over the years but not one mule deer tag…this year I didnt apply for any elk tags in the hopes of a premium muley tag. Maybe this year will be the year it happens!
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Post by: OltHunter on June 18, 2021, 07:06:40 AM
What was the sheep draw debacle this year?
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 18, 2021, 07:23:29 AM
I don't even think the super tags have been drawn. They listed on the website winners would be announced by June 10, it's now mid June. I donated a few $ to get some and still showing up as eligible in my account too.page 4.......
What was the sheep draw debacle this year?
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,260577.45.html
Post by: Mtnwalker on June 18, 2021, 08:02:43 AM
Post by: Ironhead on June 18, 2021, 08:13:14 AM
Deadlines and Drawings
Idaho Super Hunt has two drawings.
First Drawing:
Deadline for entries is May 31st.
Eight elk, eight deer, eight pronghorn and one moose will be drawn.
One Super Hunt Combo will also be drawn. This winner is entitled to hunt all four species.
Winners will be notified in mid-June. An announcement will be made once they are contacted.
Post by: OltHunter on June 18, 2021, 08:17:54 AM
This is what the IDFG says for Super tags.
Deadlines and Drawings
Idaho Super Hunt has two drawings.
First Drawing:
Deadline for entries is May 31st.
Eight elk, eight deer, eight pronghorn and one moose will be drawn.
One Super Hunt Combo will also be drawn. This winner is entitled to hunt all four species.
Winners will be notified in mid-June. An announcement will be made once they are contacted.
Reading back on my post, I didn't word that well. I meant on their website it said mid-June now, they had changed it from June 10th I believe.
They can't even do a simple lottery draw on time.
Post by: HUNT JR on June 18, 2021, 08:18:46 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 18, 2021, 08:28:29 AM
Post by: HUNT JR on June 18, 2021, 08:31:47 AM
I think the delay in the super hunt results is due to them possibly losing my phone number so they can call me and congratulate me on winning. I'll email them and get it cleared up :chuckle:I was thinking more that they couldn't believe they pulled my name for all 8 deer tags :IBCOOL:
Post by: archerykraze on June 18, 2021, 08:42:17 AM
Post by: TriggerMike on June 18, 2021, 09:10:35 AM
Post by: jowings22 on June 18, 2021, 09:13:00 AM
Post by: HUNT JR on June 18, 2021, 09:17:59 AM
Post by: OltHunter on June 18, 2021, 10:06:15 AM
If Idaho drew on this same day last year then they should certainly be able to do it again this year. It will be disappointing if they don't.
It's a whole new admin system/company though.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 18, 2021, 10:14:02 AM
:yeah: also F&G opened like 4 min ago so we should probably all just chill out a bit. Id rather it take an extra week and get correct results vs another screw up and have my deer tag yanked like the poor sheep folks :twocents:If Idaho drew on this same day last year then they should certainly be able to do it again this year. It will be disappointing if they don't.
It's a whole new admin system/company though.
Post by: jowings22 on June 18, 2021, 10:57:50 AM
I thought that I saw IDFG was closed today for the new holiday tomorrow.
https://idfg.idaho.gov/blog/2021/06/fish-and-game-offices-closed-friday-june-18
Post by: TriggerMike on June 18, 2021, 11:09:22 AM
Didn't they just switch a few years ago? And now theyve already switched again? If it ain't broke, break it! Lol.If Idaho drew on this same day last year then they should certainly be able to do it again this year. It will be disappointing if they don't.
It's a whole new admin system/company though.
Post by: meatwhack on June 18, 2021, 11:30:38 AM
Post by: Nape6.5 on June 18, 2021, 04:18:29 PM
Next week I guess
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on June 18, 2021, 04:30:40 PM
Post by: Nape6.5 on June 18, 2021, 04:40:00 PM
Musky?Tiger musky
Post by: idaho guy on June 19, 2021, 10:32:10 AM
Went fishing was hoping to come back to the Idaho draw results.
Next week I guess
Nice fish but I thought it was a known fact you can’t draw without checking every 5 minutes at least a few days before last years date? :dunno:
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Post by: jowings22 on June 22, 2021, 08:12:31 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 22, 2021, 08:47:55 AM
Post by: HUNT JR on June 22, 2021, 09:25:24 AM
Friday 3:30pm
I hope you are wrong :chuckle:
Post by: Nape6.5 on June 24, 2021, 09:41:04 AM
Post by: idahohuntr on June 24, 2021, 09:56:57 AM
With the returned tag sale today, Friday is looking likely :dunno:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 24, 2021, 10:00:08 AM
:yeah:im positive that was a factor for sure. I got in there this a.m. and there was a bunch of folks waiting to get in. Not sure how many were trying to get a tag or not. Im assuming a lot of the traffic was guys trying to check draw results every 2 min.
With the returned tag sale today, Friday is looking likely :dunno:
Post by: Mtnwalker on June 24, 2021, 10:23:21 AM
:yeah:
With the returned tag sale today, Friday is looking likely :dunno:
Bummer they are doing that auto queue thing with the returned tags too, 260th in line for 8 tags makes it tough to scoop anything up like I did last year
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 24, 2021, 10:39:14 AM
Post by: Jonathan_S on June 24, 2021, 11:31:38 AM
😪 dark times when Karl is trying to buy an elk tag :chuckle:
:yeah: down is up, up is down
Post by: muleyslayer on June 24, 2021, 12:15:20 PM
I was 430 :chuckle: talk about nerve racking. Every elk tag was showing sold out EXCEPT the one I was after all the way till I got in but showed sold out at selection 😪 dark times when Karl is trying to buy an elk tag :chuckle:Karl are you feeling ok? :chuckle: oh well looks like some mature bucks will be saved this year if you’re not hunting them!
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 24, 2021, 12:21:25 PM
No I'm not! I had to scale back everything this year due to a dumb mountain goat hunt and now I'm a no tag havin loser! A desperate man at the end of his rope. A washed up shell of his former self. Hustlin the back alleys of every state trying to score a little hit of a tag for a week in September I took for an antelope hunt I didn't draw!I was 430 :chuckle: talk about nerve racking. Every elk tag was showing sold out EXCEPT the one I was after all the way till I got in but showed sold out at selection 😪 dark times when Karl is trying to buy an elk tag :chuckle:Karl are you feeling ok? :chuckle: oh well looks like some mature bucks will be saved this year if you’re not hunting them!
Post by: Machias on June 24, 2021, 03:17:13 PM
Post by: idaho guy on June 24, 2021, 03:22:08 PM
No I'm not! I had to scale back everything this year due to a dumb mountain goat hunt and now I'm a no tag havin loser! A desperate man at the end of his rope. A washed up shell of his former self. Hustlin the back alleys of every state trying to score a little hit of a tag for a week in September I took for an antelope hunt I didn't draw!I was 430 :chuckle: talk about nerve racking. Every elk tag was showing sold out EXCEPT the one I was after all the way till I got in but showed sold out at selection 😪 dark times when Karl is trying to buy an elk tag :chuckle:Karl are you feeling ok? :chuckle: oh well looks like some mature bucks will be saved this year if you’re not hunting them!
Cant believe you would even go an a "dumb" mountain goat hunt :chuckle: what an idiot ha ha.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on June 24, 2021, 03:36:47 PM
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:Not funny sir! I was in on that entelope failure too! But no mtn goats for me. I aint near that level of slummin it.
Post by: Jonathan_S on June 24, 2021, 03:38:09 PM
We have been intending on the .75 DH Crew goat trip since 2015!
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 24, 2021, 04:28:08 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 24, 2021, 04:29:38 PM
apparently they have REALLY small mule deer there too so I'll shoot some of them too. I believe they are called "blacktails". Blacktail deer sound lame to me :peep:No I'm not! I had to scale back everything this year due to a dumb mountain goat hunt and now I'm a no tag havin loser! A desperate man at the end of his rope. A washed up shell of his former self. Hustlin the back alleys of every state trying to score a little hit of a tag for a week in September I took for an antelope hunt I didn't draw!I was 430 :chuckle: talk about nerve racking. Every elk tag was showing sold out EXCEPT the one I was after all the way till I got in but showed sold out at selection 😪 dark times when Karl is trying to buy an elk tag :chuckle:Karl are you feeling ok? :chuckle: oh well looks like some mature bucks will be saved this year if you’re not hunting them!
Cant believe you would even go an a "dumb" mountain goat hunt :chuckle: what an idiot ha ha.
Post by: muleyslayer on June 24, 2021, 08:45:51 PM
I see. I’m sure you can get a tag they are plentiful in September! It seems like most guys like to hunt elk in September and deer in November. Lately I prefer the exact opposite :chuckle:No I'm not! I had to scale back everything this year due to a dumb mountain goat hunt and now I'm a no tag havin loser! A desperate man at the end of his rope. A washed up shell of his former self. Hustlin the back alleys of every state trying to score a little hit of a tag for a week in September I took for an antelope hunt I didn't draw!I was 430 :chuckle: talk about nerve racking. Every elk tag was showing sold out EXCEPT the one I was after all the way till I got in but showed sold out at selection 😪 dark times when Karl is trying to buy an elk tag :chuckle:Karl are you feeling ok? :chuckle: oh well looks like some mature bucks will be saved this year if you’re not hunting them!
Post by: Mr Mykiss on June 24, 2021, 10:35:51 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 25, 2021, 06:44:23 AM
yeah if I wanted to archery hunt like a loser :chuckle:I see. I’m sure you can get a tag they are plentiful in September! It seems like most guys like to hunt elk in September and deer in November. Lately I prefer the exact opposite :chuckle:No I'm not! I had to scale back everything this year due to a dumb mountain goat hunt and now I'm a no tag havin loser! A desperate man at the end of his rope. A washed up shell of his former self. Hustlin the back alleys of every state trying to score a little hit of a tag for a week in September I took for an antelope hunt I didn't draw!I was 430 :chuckle: talk about nerve racking. Every elk tag was showing sold out EXCEPT the one I was after all the way till I got in but showed sold out at selection 😪 dark times when Karl is trying to buy an elk tag :chuckle:Karl are you feeling ok? :chuckle: oh well looks like some mature bucks will be saved this year if you’re not hunting them!
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 25, 2021, 06:49:32 AM
End of days for sure. Paying the price for smack talking elk hunters all these years…"I'm a little confused by your tactics. I'm gonna keep acting tough till I figure it out! Elk are dumb!" - Cal Naughton Jr. aka Mike Hancho
Post by: jowings22 on June 25, 2021, 09:11:38 AM
Friday 3:30pm
I hope you are wrong :chuckle:
I'm now hoping Karl is right... :chuckle:
Post by: Jimmy33 on June 25, 2021, 10:18:53 AM
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Post by: WapitiTalk1 on June 25, 2021, 10:54:25 AM
"Good Morning and thank you for contacting the Idaho Dept of Fish and Game.
We are currently working on the Deer, Elk and Pronghorn Controlled Hunt Draw and will have the results posted no later than July 10th. You can view the status of your Controlled Hunt Applications by logging in to your profile at https://license.gooutdoorsidaho.com<https://license.gooutdoorsidaho.com/>
Please let us know if we can help with anything else.
Thank you!
Kate
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Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 25, 2021, 10:57:37 AM
Post by: HUNT JR on June 25, 2021, 10:59:13 AM
Meh. Canned response literally everyone gets. Under promise and over deliver. Ive got a mole within the agency though. Today at 3:30pm 8)
Must be Shaniqua's sister...
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 25, 2021, 11:01:53 AM
cousin. @Timberstalker introduced her to me :peep: :hello:Meh. Canned response literally everyone gets. Under promise and over deliver. Ive got a mole within the agency though. Today at 3:30pm 8)
Must be Shaniqua's sister...
Post by: jowings22 on June 25, 2021, 11:15:44 AM
Meh. Canned response literally everyone gets. Under promise and over deliver. Ive got a mole within the agency though. Today at 3:30pm 8)
Is that mountain time or pacific time? Need to know when to hit refresh :chuckle:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 25, 2021, 11:17:14 AM
I did the conversion for you so 3:30 pacific time :tup:Meh. Canned response literally everyone gets. Under promise and over deliver. Ive got a mole within the agency though. Today at 3:30pm 8)
Is that mountain time or pacific time? Need to know when to hit refresh :chuckle:
Post by: HUNT JR on June 25, 2021, 11:20:22 AM
I did the conversion for you so 3:30 pacific time :tup:Meh. Canned response literally everyone gets. Under promise and over deliver. Ive got a mole within the agency though. Today at 3:30pm 8)
Is that mountain time or pacific time? Need to know when to hit refresh :chuckle:
So that they can post the results and hit the door to worry about the phone calls on Monday.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 25, 2021, 11:35:48 AM
Post by: jhawk13 on June 25, 2021, 11:36:22 AM
Meh. Canned response literally everyone gets. Under promise and over deliver. Ive got a mole within the agency though. Today at 3:30pm 8)
I’m always so hopeful on posts/info like this hah :chuckle:
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on June 25, 2021, 12:11:04 PM
Meh. Canned response literally everyone gets. Under promise and over deliver. Ive got a mole within the agency though. Today at 3:30pm 8)
Cool :IBCOOL:. Need the results before request my time off for the fall hunt(s).
Post by: Jonathan_S on June 25, 2021, 12:17:04 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on June 25, 2021, 12:22:18 PM
Hoping for today. My fall is looking pretty bleak and would like another tag or two to round it out.:o
Post by: huntnphool on June 25, 2021, 01:59:01 PM
Post by: Nape6.5 on June 25, 2021, 02:06:49 PM
Post by: elkh8me on June 25, 2021, 03:35:17 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 25, 2021, 03:43:28 PM
Post by: meatwhack on June 25, 2021, 05:43:02 PM
Post by: huntnphool on June 25, 2021, 05:44:51 PM
Not looking good for today.
It clearly says to check back on the 28th :dunno:
Post by: meatwhack on June 25, 2021, 06:14:09 PM
Post by: M_ray on June 25, 2021, 08:17:10 PM
Not looking good for today.
It clearly says to check back on the 28th :dunno:
Really? 😂 :chuckle:
Post by: jhawk13 on June 28, 2021, 07:29:50 AM
Hoping we see results today.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 28, 2021, 08:28:03 AM
Post by: huntnnw on June 28, 2021, 08:30:44 AM
Post by: HUNT JR on June 28, 2021, 08:42:01 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 28, 2021, 09:04:10 AM
Website now says tomorrow is next check in.ouch. I bet they are getting absolutely lit up with phone calls. Almost feel bad for em....almost :chuckle:
Post by: WALLEYEGUY on June 28, 2021, 09:29:12 AM
Post by: meatwhack on June 28, 2021, 11:50:12 AM
Post by: TriggerMike on June 28, 2021, 12:20:09 PM
Post by: jowings22 on June 28, 2021, 12:21:57 PM
Post by: TriggerMike on June 28, 2021, 12:30:57 PM
Post by: big wood on June 28, 2021, 12:49:43 PM
Post by: Mtnwalker on June 28, 2021, 01:03:32 PM
Thanks. So what is a "check-in" even supposed to mean? If the results aren't posted in the morning then they don't post it at all that day? They've posted in the afternoon plenty of times 🤷🏼♂️
I think it means "quit calling we'll tell you when they're posted"
Post by: idahohuntr on June 28, 2021, 01:14:43 PM
I think they hired wdfw to run their drawmeh...I wish they would...probably would have had them no later than last monday.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 28, 2021, 01:37:53 PM
:yeah: beat me to it. I wish all western states could turn and burn like WA does.I think they hired wdfw to run their drawmeh...I wish they would...probably would have had them no later than last monday.
Post by: HUNT JR on June 29, 2021, 09:39:26 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 29, 2021, 10:11:29 AM
And now we wait until tomorrow... :bash:the daily messages are so weird.
Post by: cbond3318 on June 29, 2021, 10:12:36 AM
And now we wait until tomorrow... :bash:the daily messages are so weird.
It’s extraordinarily dumb. Radio silence would be better. Silly.
Post by: TriggerMike on June 29, 2021, 10:14:42 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 29, 2021, 10:17:19 AM
I bet they will still post the same message on whatever day they end up posting the results.I'd agree 100% with that. Im sure its due to the excessively high volume of inquiries as to why they aren't out yet.
Post by: TriggerMike on June 29, 2021, 10:30:33 AM
Post by: jowings22 on June 29, 2021, 10:38:08 AM
Didnt the super hunt results come out several days after the date they had set as the "no later than" date? Wouldn't be surprised if we don't see these results until July 15th 🤷🏼♂️
That would even make Oregon's draw schedule look good :chuckle:
Post by: idahohuntr on June 29, 2021, 11:02:22 AM
I bet they will still post the same message on whatever day they end up posting the results.Probably...it would honestly be nice for all these states to establish a release date/time that is as soon as possible and is very reliable. Vacation planning, reservations, a lot of logistical issues are confounded when its anybody's guess. I get that 30 or 40 years ago when people basically applied near their home units there was no issue...but in todays world...a lot of these states need to step things up.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 29, 2021, 11:29:46 AM
especially considering the amount of money it costs to apply. I don't mind paying but id like something for my money. At the end of the day we are a paying customer that funds the majority of these states annual budget. Its not too much to ask that we can at least get a little better quality service for our money.I bet they will still post the same message on whatever day they end up posting the results.Probably...it would honestly be nice for all these states to establish a release date/time that is as soon as possible and is very reliable. Vacation planning, reservations, a lot of logistical issues are confounded when its anybody's guess. I get that 30 or 40 years ago when people basically applied near their home units there was no issue...but in todays world...a lot of these states need to step things up.
Post by: ShaneTyTrey on June 29, 2021, 12:08:24 PM
I guess if we want it our way, we can go to Burger King! :) :) :)especially considering the amount of money it costs to apply. I don't mind paying but id like something for my money. At the end of the day we are a paying customer that funds the majority of these states annual budget. Its not too much to ask that we can at least get a little better quality service for our money.I bet they will still post the same message on whatever day they end up posting the results.Probably...it would honestly be nice for all these states to establish a release date/time that is as soon as possible and is very reliable. Vacation planning, reservations, a lot of logistical issues are confounded when its anybody's guess. I get that 30 or 40 years ago when people basically applied near their home units there was no issue...but in todays world...a lot of these states need to step things up.
Post by: idahohuntr on June 29, 2021, 12:51:26 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 29, 2021, 12:57:40 PM
would you be fine waiting 3hrs for your whopper and fries? :dunno:I guess if we want it our way, we can go to Burger King! :) :) :)especially considering the amount of money it costs to apply. I don't mind paying but id like something for my money. At the end of the day we are a paying customer that funds the majority of these states annual budget. Its not too much to ask that we can at least get a little better quality service for our money.I bet they will still post the same message on whatever day they end up posting the results.Probably...it would honestly be nice for all these states to establish a release date/time that is as soon as possible and is very reliable. Vacation planning, reservations, a lot of logistical issues are confounded when its anybody's guess. I get that 30 or 40 years ago when people basically applied near their home units there was no issue...but in todays world...a lot of these states need to step things up.
Post by: TriggerMike on June 29, 2021, 01:38:48 PM
Just talked to licensing dept. because I had a tag question...asked them about draw, once I got past the canned response the guy indicated it may still be a while...as in closer to Jul 10. He said the sheep debacle definitely is playing into this, as the contractor is being very careful about all their software and making sure there are no issues that cause an improper tag award and being later than normal is just fine with IDFG as long as they get it right. He said they are in the verification process now and to keep watching the website, so who knows...my money is moving towards Friday results...just seems like they would want them out before the holiday weekend. :dunno:So they probably did the draw last Friday and have been verifying all day yesterday and today. End of this week would be nice.
Post by: muleyslayer on June 29, 2021, 02:15:08 PM
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Post by: mp.hunter on June 29, 2021, 03:32:45 PM
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Post by: idahohuntr on June 29, 2021, 03:41:31 PM
364 days every year to get this crap figured out and once again it’s like technology and computers are brand new to themThe biggest issue IMO is the legislative mandate to contract the draw...which means every few years a new bidder can win the contract...which means new people, different software etc. When IDFG ran their own draw it was much more consistent. 2018 was late...new contractor...2021...another new contractor and here we are :bash:
Post by: HUNT JR on June 30, 2021, 08:54:59 AM
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Post by: adamR on June 30, 2021, 09:10:03 AM
:dunno:
Post by: TriggerMike on June 30, 2021, 09:38:27 AM
This actually clears alot up for me. Does WA do the same?364 days every year to get this crap figured out and once again it’s like technology and computers are brand new to themThe biggest issue IMO is the legislative mandate to contract the draw...which means every few years a new bidder can win the contract...which means new people, different software etc. When IDFG ran their own draw it was much more consistent. 2018 was late...new contractor...2021...another new contractor and here we are :bash:
Post by: elkh8me on June 30, 2021, 10:35:40 AM
Post by: huntnphool on June 30, 2021, 12:24:16 PM
I dont understand the purpose of this daily update to check back the next day. Just leave the damn message off and we won't bother. As it stands, I'm looking every single morning. What is the point?
:dunno:
Maybe it’s like YouTube, paid per visit. :chuckle:
Post by: jowings22 on July 01, 2021, 08:53:47 AM
Post by: Jimmy33 on July 01, 2021, 08:53:55 AM
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Post by: Jimmy33 on July 01, 2021, 08:56:51 AM
Not selected for deerOr antelope
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Post by: archerykraze on July 01, 2021, 09:03:52 AM
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Post by: HUNT JR on July 01, 2021, 09:07:29 AM
Post by: grade-creek-rd on July 01, 2021, 09:22:13 AM
Grade
Post by: TriggerMike on July 01, 2021, 09:23:04 AM
Post by: jjhunter on July 01, 2021, 09:31:20 AM
Post by: Brushbuster on July 01, 2021, 09:38:40 AM
Post by: Dhoey07 on July 01, 2021, 09:41:51 AM
Not Selected.
Post by: bearpaw on July 01, 2021, 10:02:44 AM
Post by: Jonathan_S on July 01, 2021, 10:03:22 AM
Buddy and I drew late season deer. My tag is really good, his is best in the state. Looking forward to Nov.
Idaho is good to you!
Post by: Machias on July 01, 2021, 10:23:58 AM
Post by: Mtnwalker on July 01, 2021, 10:40:03 AM
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Post by: archerykraze on July 01, 2021, 11:13:53 AM
Buddy and I drew late season deer. My tag is really good, his is best in the state. Looking forward to Nov.
Very Nice! Congrats and hope to see some pictures.
Post by: WA1232 on July 01, 2021, 11:34:36 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on July 01, 2021, 12:16:00 PM
Buddy and I drew late season deer. My tag is really good, his is best in the state. Looking forward to Nov.back to back draws?!!! Who do I have to pay at IDGF for that perk :chuckle:
Post by: Dhoey07 on July 01, 2021, 12:30:49 PM
Buddy and I drew late season deer. My tag is really good, his is best in the state. Looking forward to Nov.back to back draws?!!! Who do I have to pay at IDGF for that perk :chuckle:
Maybe it's because you have been giving your money to the wrong place.....it's IDFG :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: tlake on July 01, 2021, 12:33:42 PM
Post by: jjhunter on July 01, 2021, 12:45:58 PM
Buddy and I drew late season deer. My tag is really good, his is best in the state. Looking forward to Nov.back to back draws?!!! Who do I have to pay at IDGF for that perk :chuckle:
Ha! More excited for my buddy’s tag and getting to hunt giants in an area we know well.
Idaho has been good to me tag wise, but I personally haven’t taken home a really good deer yet.
Post by: jjhunter on July 01, 2021, 12:46:40 PM
Drew for elk in Idaho unit 29.
Super cool area to hunt! Love it down there.
Post by: zwickeyman on July 01, 2021, 01:01:25 PM
Post by: Machias on July 01, 2021, 01:23:41 PM
Maybe it's because you have been giving your money to the wrong place.....it's IDFG :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Post by: WALLEYEGUY on July 01, 2021, 01:28:19 PM
Post by: idahohuntr on July 01, 2021, 01:53:14 PM
Post by: tlake on July 01, 2021, 02:31:01 PM
Post by: Jimmy33 on July 01, 2021, 02:31:29 PM
Buddy and I drew late season deer. My tag is really good, his is best in the state. Looking forward to Nov.That’s incredible
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Post by: jowings22 on July 01, 2021, 03:14:51 PM
Post by: Machias on July 01, 2021, 03:33:24 PM
Drew a hard cow tag :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL: But put in for (what I thought was) an easy mulie doe tag and missed. Life is still good!!!!!!!!!!!! I better start getting in shape now.
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Post by: 2MANY on July 01, 2021, 03:51:59 PM
Buddy and I drew late season deer. My tag is really good, his is best in the state. Looking forward to Nov.
Simular to the ones in the past?
Post by: jjhunter on July 01, 2021, 03:59:34 PM
I need 3 straight weeks off!
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on July 01, 2021, 04:16:07 PM
"Selected"... ahh, its nice to type that word for a change. :rockin:
HUNT #: 2121
HUNT AREA: 40-1
DATES: 09/15/2021 - 10/14/2021
Post by: High Climber on July 01, 2021, 04:20:35 PM
Well, it looks like I'll have to change up my normal Spud State elk itinerary. On to a bit of planning for the up coming stick n' string archery season ;).Nice! Congrats That should be a fun one!
"Selected"... ahh, its nice to type that word for a change. :rockin:
HUNT #: 2121
HUNT AREA: 40-1
DATES: 09/15/2021 - 10/14/2021
Post by: 2MANY on July 01, 2021, 04:53:21 PM
My question is how many of you had that same species tag in Idaho prior to drawing it in a controlled hunt?
Again CONGRATS to all you guys!!!!
Post by: Naches Sportsman on July 01, 2021, 05:57:06 PM
Post by: Brushbuster on July 01, 2021, 05:58:50 PM
Hurrah to all that have drawn.
My question is how many of you had that same species tag in Idaho prior to drawing it in a controlled hunt?
Again CONGRATS to all you guys!!!!
I have a late White-tailed Deer OTC. I'll be trading that in for a Mulie tag. :tup:
Post by: cem3434 on July 01, 2021, 06:13:19 PM
Post by: theleo on July 01, 2021, 06:34:21 PM
Hurrah to all that have drawn.As in an OTC tag or we've drawn the tag in the past?
My question is how many of you had that same species tag in Idaho prior to drawing it in a controlled hunt?
Again CONGRATS to all you guys!!!!
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Post by: adamR on July 01, 2021, 07:01:23 PM
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on July 01, 2021, 07:10:08 PM
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Post by: Mr Mykiss on July 01, 2021, 08:15:26 PM
His dad drew deer and elk so now have 3 magic valley deer tags and a magic valley elk tag.Got my deer tag, buddy got his elk tag, other buddy got a better elk tag. Also just found out that my ex-wife’s new husband drew the best elk tag in the state. Gonna be a busy year.
I need 3 straight weeks off!
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on July 01, 2021, 08:25:10 PM
Post by: hard hunter on July 01, 2021, 09:33:02 PM
Post by: teanawayslayer on July 01, 2021, 09:41:18 PM
Ex wife’s new husband drew the best tag in the state? I would wish he gets bit in the a$$ by a rattlesnake and croaks while sucking the poison out. Sorry, had to be done :chuckle::chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: MtnMuley on July 01, 2021, 10:26:01 PM
Post by: huntnphool on July 01, 2021, 10:49:07 PM
Still waiting on sheep results. Tag hasn't came in the mail yet...........
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Post by: bearpaw on July 02, 2021, 11:06:04 AM
Post by: elkh8me on July 02, 2021, 02:53:34 PM
Well, it looks like I'll have to change up my normal Spud State elk itinerary. On to a bit of planning for the up coming stick n' string archery season ;).This makes me smile. It does my heart good to know joe will once again be packing someone else's bull. Will get you giys headed in the right direction with some contacts
"Selected"... ahh, its nice to type that word for a change. :rockin:
HUNT #: 2121
HUNT AREA: 40-1
DATES: 09/15/2021 - 10/14/2021
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on July 02, 2021, 07:43:02 PM
Well, it looks like I'll have to change up my normal Spud State elk itinerary. On to a bit of planning for the up coming stick n' string archery season ;).This makes me smile. It does my heart good to know joe will once again be packing someone else's bull. Will get you giys headed in the right direction with some contacts
"Selected"... ahh, its nice to type that word for a change. :rockin:
HUNT #: 2121
HUNT AREA: 40-1
DATES: 09/15/2021 - 10/14/2021
Much appreciated Joe. A whole new kind of elk hunting down there. Just hoping I can get bow close to a pig like you knocked down. Ya, Joe N and that stone glacier make a great pack mule :chuckle: We’ve been hunting together for many years. We’re due a real “keeper”.
Post by: hunt4life on July 02, 2021, 09:57:24 PM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on July 09, 2021, 11:42:48 AM
Post by: mburrows on July 09, 2021, 03:17:00 PM
Best elk tag in the state!! Must have drawn the only nonresident unit 54 tag!!
That’s awesome. One of my “dream” tags for sure. Have fun and good luck