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Post by: CoryTDF on June 28, 2009, 10:41:13 AM
Let me first start off by saying that it is in no way my intention to dissuade anybody from using this taxidermist. I do however wish to inform you of how my experience with Jeff ended up. First of all he is retried military "Coast guard" so when I brought him my first ever wood duck in 2004, I immediately had a connection with him. After talking with him for about an hour i asked him if he would be interested in possibly teaching me how to do birds. It took a little coaxing but he agreed to show me a few things. I paid him my deposit and left. A few days later I called him and set up a time to come out and learn some taxidermy. While I was out there we talked mostly about hunting and that he was new to the area and did not really have any duck hunting spots. Jeff is a friendly guy and it was obvious to me he was not a moron so i told him that I would take him to a few of my spots. He was exited and immediately made a statement to me that would set the tempo for the remainder of our friendship. He told me that if I took him out and showed him some places to hunt that he would “just charge me the deposit for that wood duck" I of course jumped at this offer and so began my adventure. Over the next month or so I took Jeff out hunting a few times he was a knowledgeable duck hunter and overall a good guy to have in the blind. Jeff called me one day and told me wood duck was done and I could come pick it up. I immediately went to my car and drove the thirty miles to Dayton. When I arrived at the shop he talked for a while and then he gave me my duck. It looked great except for the bill. I did not like it right off the bat. It looked as though a kid had painted it with a watercolor brush. I was not pleased but I decided I would just wait and see I could live with it. We finished talking and I went to leave he said “hey you gonna pay me?” I hesitated and said "um….I didn’t bring any money with me” I was hoping that he would remember what he had told me about taking him hunting. It became apparent that he did not remember so I thought that I would just remind him. I said “Jeff don’t you remember what you told me? You said If I took you hunting you would take care of that duck for me!” He shook his head and said no I said I would help you learn how to do this If you took me. I did not want to argue so I went to the bank and got the money. Strike one! >:(
2004 was a great pintail year for me and I had no trouble filling my freezer with possible mounts. I continued talking with Jeff about learning how to mount birds. We set a date and I brought him 5 pintails that I thought would make good mounts. He said he would hold them until I could make it out to start on mine. When I went out to choose one of my birds to mount I got a little surprise. There were only 3 birds for me to choose from. Jeff took two of the birds and had started mounting them for himself. I chose one of the birds and he proceeded to show me how to mount a bird. I was a little disgruntled but hey this guy showed me how to do taxidermy so I let that slide. Strike two! >:( >:(
Over the next year I talked with Jeff periodically and kept our friendship in good standing. Jeff and I had talked about drift wood for mounts and where to get it. I told him that my dad lives on the west side and I could get him some. The next trip I took over I filled my trunk with drift wood and brought it to him. He had also mentioned that if any of my friends or myself ever shot a deer and didn’t want the cape that he would gladly take them off my hands. I had him show me how to properly cape out a deer using his preferred method and over the next two deer seasons I gave him several capes. Keep in mind every cape I gave him was used on somebody else’s mount and sold to them for around $100.
My father shot a nice white in the Colville area in 1981. It is the biggest deer he has ever killed. He had a neck mount done and it has been a center piece in every living room he has ever had. The only problem with the mount was that his friend, a moron, ran down to the dead dear and cut its throat. The taxidermist did a good job covering it up but it always bothered my dad. One day I got the idea that would have Jeff redo the mount for my dad. I called him up and talked to him about what needed to be done. He told me that he needed the mount and that he would need to get a new cape for it. I then brought up all the capes I had given to him and asked if we could work something out with my dads mount. Jeff told me that he would find me a cape and just charge me the normal price for a mount. I agreed to this and the plan was set into motion. It took over a year for him to even find a cape and almost another year for him to finish the mount. Needless to say I was not happy with the time frame. I saw many mounts get put in formant of my fathers and make it out the door much faster. When the day came that I was to pick up my fathers mount it was hanging high in his shop. It looked good. I stayed and talked with Jeff for an hour or so handed him the money and he went and got the deer. I had another friend with me and he handed it to him. I gave it a very quick and very foolish once over and finished my conversation with Jeff then went home. When I got home and sat down with the mount I was devastated. I know that Jeff is capable of good work but I have to say this is terrible. First of all the deer that the cape came from was *censored* in the neck. The bullet hole was sewn together and then hair sprayed to keep the hair from poofing out every ware. The stitching was showing in the bullet hole and the top of the head in between the antlers. The cape had about a dozen scares on the neck and face. The eyes bulged out and the tear ducts are not recessed. The more I looked at it the worse it looked I couldn’t handle it so I called Jeff. I told him that I did not want to seem rude but this is the worst mount I have ever seen and that I know that he does better work than this. I explained that it is not like he did this for free and that I paid him the same rate that everybody else does and got an 1/8 of the quality. This is where things started to go bad! Jeff quickly tells me that I shouldn’t have paid him if I didn’t like it, and it was that bad. He said I could bring it to him and show him what I thought was wrong with it. I agreed that I was foolish to have left without really looking over the mount however, I considered him to be a friend a person I had done favors for and who I had taken hunting. I had foolishly believed that we had more of a relationship than businessman and customer. When I brought the mount it him he of course tried to tell me nothing was wrong with it. He took out a can of hairspray and flattened out the hair around the bullet hole. I told him that it was unacceptable and that I felt cheated. Jeff made it very clear that he would not refund my money but that he would remount it if I wanted that. However, he would have to wait until he got another cape and he was not going to buy a new one for this mount. The only issue was that he didn’t know how long it would take. Well it had already been two years and I was not willing to wait two more. I talked it over with my dad and he decided to call Jeff. That phone conversation was interesting as Jeff cussed my dad out. After all was said and done we decided that we would just have to eat $450 and have it redone buy somebody else. Strike three your out!!! >:( >:( >:( :tdown:
I guess all I was trying to say is that Jeff Monyak is capable of good work his trophy room in his shop is very impressive. However, if his work is only good when it suits him I guess everybody else is potentially in a position to get screwed. He has turned out some very nice work and I can’t really say that he is bad at what he does. But I will say he is no longer a friend of mine. He cheated me and used me until I took a stand and then he showed his true colors. I myself will never use him again. I will attach some pictures of the deer when I get home today. :twocents:
Post by: Pathfinder101 on June 28, 2009, 11:43:25 PM
Post by: HEADSHOT on July 01, 2009, 09:45:34 PM
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Post by: boneaddict on July 02, 2009, 06:06:11 AM
Post by: Kuduman on July 02, 2009, 07:13:06 AM
I sorry you have chosen a public forum to drag my name and profession through the mud. I got a call and was told about your post and at first dismissed it but the longer I thought about it the more I felt that there is a lesson to be learned here. For those of you that know me you know that this is a little out of charactor but also know that I won't lay down when things just aren't right.
First let me say that CoryTDF's own words really show his true nature. When he first came to my shop he in his own words "coaxed" me to showing him some bird taxidermy . I was hesitant to do so but figured he seemed like a nice enough guy. His next statement says it all for me. and Folks this is the root of the problem with CoryTDF. His statement that "this set the tempo for the remainder of our friendship. refers to him receiving free taxidermy work for simply being my friend.
Simply put in CoryTDF's mind....... FRIENDSHIP = FREE TAXIDERMY
I'm not going to bore any of you with trivial details of who said what and who did what when the basis of this responce is an attempt to show people the wrong way to deal with a taxidermist. You see if you read CoryTDF's post it's filled with Friend, Friend , Friend. I have to be honest and this is where it might sting a little Cory is that you made it impossible to be your friend. Let me explain.
In your post you said that 2004 was a great pintail year I don't doubt that because wasn't that the year you were cited by Officer Jundt for taking over the limit on pintail ? You see I as a taxidermist am judged by the caliber of person that I associate with and if I hunt and hang out with known game violators then I myself must also be a poacher and I can't afford to have that reputation with the State fish and Game officers. It's bad for business because they can basically not renew my licence and I'm out of a job.
It didn't take me long to see how disingenuous CoryTDF was and it took me even less time to dissolve our one sided friendship when I learned of his less than ethical behavior in the field, This only left a professional relationship which left little room for free taxidermy.
Now concerning CoryTDF's Fathers deer. Folks Never Never Never go to a taxidermist with a set of antlers and say you want a deer mount and not have a cape or at least the intentions of purchasing a cape. that's what CoryTDF did and he got exactly what he paid for. He was given an option to purchase a deer cape but didn't want to. I used a cape that I had that was suitable but was what you would expect to get for $25 (barb wire marks, scars and neck shot) Folks and here is a great lesson . In the taxidermy industry like most things in life you get what you pay for and this case was no exception. The sad part is after talking with CoryTDF's father he would have wanted the nicer cape and He's the one that got the short end of that deal. My offer still stands. I'll remount the buck if you bring a cape that fits .
There's allot more to this story as you can imagine but ask yourself is it worth having a friend that only wants to use you for your expertise , Not want to pay for your time and effort, Compromise your integrity by breaking the law and then posing as your friend go on The internet and trash talk you and your business. I don't need people in my life like this and I'd surmise that all of you don't either.
CoryTDF I'm sorry you have chosen this media to trash me but that again was your doing.
In closing I'd like to say have you ever wondered why taxidermists get the reputation of close minded, Socially reclusive , arrogant and sometimes brash people. Well CoryTDF is the reason. It doesn't take many interactions with folks like him to make you that way. I would rather sever that customer from my business than turn into a grumpy unapproachable guy that is suspicious of every question asking sportsman that wants to try his hand at taxidermy.
Those of you that know me know that I'm more than willing to help each and everyone of you anyway I can just please respect me and what I do for a living.
I look forward to serving you in the future
P.S. Luke .... I just finished your deer I'll email picks soon . See you in Seattle when a deliver them..Thanks
Thanks
Jeff Monyak
Trails End Taxidermy
Owner
Post by: littlebuf on July 02, 2009, 08:47:13 AM
Post by: gunnarnewt on July 02, 2009, 09:04:39 AM
I have hunted, fished, and worked with Jeff on a constant basis, and have seen the people and phone calls first hand that start in September and don't stop until February....all wanting him to give them a deal or teach them the tricks of the trade so they can do their own work. Isn't that asking a little too much of a man who relies on this craft as a business?
Jeff has done 4 mounts for me now, My '07 Blue mtn bull, a 28" mulie my daughter killed in '08, a antelope that I took in Montana in '08 and a nice tom that I killed in '06. All were high quality work, with no corners cut or problems with the mounts. But then again, I went into each transaction thinking Jeff was a business man, trying to make a living, and not as a friend expecting "freebies".
So Cody, next time you go and start looking for someone to use, step back and think about how you would feel if the situation was reversed. Obviously you're hurt because you thought you'd get special attention. That's not the way friendship works. Everytime I take a mount to Jeff. The first thing out of my mouth is whenever you can get to it is fine.........But then again that's what being friends is all about.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on July 02, 2009, 09:12:55 AM
Post by: boneaddict on July 02, 2009, 09:24:23 AM
Gunnar, we'd love to hear your hunting stories, see pics of your daughters Big Muley and your bull.
Post by: jackelope on July 02, 2009, 09:30:53 AM
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Post by: HEADSHOT on July 02, 2009, 10:42:54 AM
Post by: General Disarray on July 02, 2009, 10:53:23 AM
In your post you said that 2004 was a great pintail year I don't doubt that because wasn't that the year you were cited by Officer Jundt for taking over the limit on pintail ?
I was kind of skeptical when he brought you 5 pintails... :dunno:
Post by: Arcate on July 02, 2009, 12:12:23 PM
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If you need more pics visit his website and if that's not enough his contact info is on the site, call him and take a tour of the show room. Don't take the word of Poacher who has yet to show us pics, and would probably scruff up his mounts to discredit Jeff, but rather take a look for yourself by stopping by Trails End and looking at the show room.
Post by: cackle on July 02, 2009, 12:19:11 PM
Post by: mossback91 on July 02, 2009, 12:22:58 PM
Post by: coop2424 on July 02, 2009, 12:23:38 PM
so a guy gets on the internet and talks about a bad experience he had with a taxi and now he is a poacher??????
Yeah this seems a little ridicules that someone would call someone that. When once again they are going by hear say and may not know the truth. Some people need to grow up. Just my :twocents:
Post by: jackelope on July 02, 2009, 12:31:25 PM
Post by: cackle on July 02, 2009, 12:38:02 PM
Im just sayin its all here say dont think we need to resort to callin people names
Post by: jackelope on July 02, 2009, 12:41:47 PM
i don't know anything about pintail limits. i'm not a waterfowler.
Post by: boneaddict on July 02, 2009, 12:46:37 PM
I'm not posting this to sway any arguements, just beware friends about changing the subject or trying to discredit someone with slanderis remarks, as it can backfire QUICKLY
Post by: cackle on July 02, 2009, 12:53:20 PM
Post by: bucklucky on July 02, 2009, 01:01:08 PM
Post by: coop2424 on July 02, 2009, 01:02:43 PM
the part I wonder about is cory gave him what sounded like multiple free capes then when it came time to mount his deer he wanted him to buy one I to would be expecting you to put a decent cape on my mount for me not some raged POS cape then get told you get what you pay for sounded like he had done you some favors and then got treated like *censored* for it :dunno: :dunno:
I completely agree on this. It seems that money was made off of those capes that were brought in along with the driftwood. If someone supplied supplies for my business that helped me out with my customers I would either pay for them or do a reduced cost or even free work for that person. This is just me though. If someone helps me out with their time I will do whatever is needed to return the favor when asked to. In my mind there is nothing free anymore.
Post by: Arcate on July 02, 2009, 01:04:15 PM
so a guy gets on the internet and talks about a bad experience he had with a taxi and now he is a poacher??????
Yeah this seems a little ridicules that someone would call someone that. When once again they are going by hear say and may not know the truth. Some people need to grow up. Just my :twocents:
Sorry if Offended anyone on this thread, But ask yourself this question: If you have a limit of Birds and you shoot one over the limit and are sited with a "Game Violation" what are you known as? Answer: A Game Violator AKA Poacher. Now I didn't witness this But from previous Post the Taxidermist knows this guy and seems to know that Cory Violated Game Regs. Don't take my word on it tho, Ask the game department I'm sure its a matter of public record. Better yet ask Cory. It is what it is. If it looks like a duck smells like a duck and Quacks like a duck It sure as hell isn't a Moose, I'd call it a duck what about you?? :cryriver:
Post by: ThePascoKid on July 02, 2009, 02:58:19 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on July 02, 2009, 03:46:23 PM
What does bother me, and I'll not discount any of the artists work, but I have to ask, Was the cape that was used to repair the mount approved by the client? Was that cape, of a neck shot, to replace a throat cut cape even communicated to the client? Did the client see the cape before the repair/mount was performed? It sounds as though the business fee for that mount repair was market rate but with a cheaper cape. If I'm paying full rate, I certainly wouldn't want to wait two years to get it back.
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i believe the poacher reference was made regarding the number of pintails.
Point is, we don't know the circumstances of the charge and whether Cody was convicted of an infraction. As ethical as I attempt to be, I can tell you that I have had more than my limit of trout or Grouse in my posession more than once. Does that make me a poacher? (Damn I hate that word!) -I've had hunting partners game, (stuff that doesn't have tags), when they've taken their own rig home and are not with me at that time. I could have been ticketed many times over the years. Still, every bird or fish I had was caught legally. That doesn't mean that the citation would hold up in court. Heck, who remembers to give a note saying it's OK for someone to transport his game? The law officer writes what he/she sees.. That interpretation isn't allways the case. So, I'll not condemn Cody until he admits he had Pintails unlawfully in his possesion or someone can prove that he was proven guilty.
-Steve
Post by: jackelope on July 02, 2009, 03:56:39 PM
i wasn't attempting to make any points or prove/disprove anything. read the replies before mine.
Post by: General Disarray on July 02, 2009, 04:11:23 PM
It amazes me how some people over look infractions involving small game and birds as no big deal and that person is not a poacher in their eyes.
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on July 02, 2009, 04:14:24 PM
Kuduman:
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In your post you said that 2004 was a great pintail year I don't doubt that because wasn't that the year you were cited by Officer Jundt for taking over the limit on pintail ?
Hearsay? Or a direct question to Corey?
-Steve
Post by: tlbradford on July 02, 2009, 04:15:51 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on July 02, 2009, 04:16:38 PM
But do we know, Guilty, in a court of law or just cited?
No, we don't.
And yes, you are correct that these two people probably need to go separate ways. Still, I'm trying to see both sides and believe that there might have been a bit of fault both ways. I haven't made up my mind with this limited and somewhat contradictory information, but that's the way I'm leaning.
-Steve
Post by: littlebuf on July 02, 2009, 04:30:24 PM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on July 02, 2009, 07:04:06 PM
As for the pintails. 1 per day, no more than 2 in possession.
It amazes me how some people over look infractions involving small game and birds as no big deal and that person is not a poacher in their eyes.
OK, I was hoping CoryTDF would get on here and explain, as he was there (obviously) and I wasn't the day the extra pintail was shot, but I believe he is out of town for the weekend. This is the story (briefly) as I remember it, CoryTDF can come on here later and correct me if I got anything wrong.
CoryTDF was hunting in a blind with another guy, a flight of pintails came in, and when the shooting was over there were 3 birds down. On the way back to the truck they got checked, and CoryTDF claimed the extra bird. He was pretty sure he didn't shoot it, but he was hunting with a novice duck hunter and he didn't want him to get soured on the sport right out of the gate. I have hunted with CoryTDF before and he is a very careful waterfowler. I have never seen him break a game law. From what I know of him, I believe that the extra pintail was an honest mistake, and probably one he didn't even make. I also know that he has never been cited before, or since. Both of the hunters in this incident worked for me at the time, so I heard the story from both of them the day after it happened. Neither of them are absolutely sure who actually shot the bird.
Characterizing CoryTDF as a "poacher" is not accurate. Flame on.
Post by: billythekidrock on July 02, 2009, 08:06:29 PM
Post by: Kuduman on July 02, 2009, 10:46:14 PM
Cory came to my shop on different occasions to drop off pintails the first three were 2 of his and 1 of a friend James Hunt. this is perfectly legal. the second trip was 2 additional birds.of his. He only wanted three birds and gave me two. HE picked out his three and I took the remaining 2 birds and till have them in my showroom. ALL perfectly legal. Just so everyone knows. You can give away federal migratory waterfowl you just can't sell it. Unless they are raised in captivity by a breeder.
Now as far as I know once they have been legally checked in to a taxidermist they are no longer considered in possession.
a few weeks later when I was showing him how to mount one of his pintails he showed me a citation issued from Sgt. Ken Jundt for over the limit on Pintail.
How stupid must I have felt knowing that 5 birds were in my shop and he just got busted for over limit. The more shocking aspect was his admission that he "just couldn't help himself that it was one of those days that the pintails were flying good and he took an extra one and got caught." He stashed the bird behind the blind and when Sgt. Jundt approached he denied shooting the bird after awhile he admitted to taking the bird and got the citation. Now in Cory's defence he did seem contrite but who wouldn't ...PATHFINDER you need to come to the realization that you got fed a line ......Just like me. This is Word for Word what Cory told me in my shop !
That's when I wrote this kid off and it became strictly business with this guy. He put me in a very awkward position, possibly storing illegally taken birds in my shop. Cory kept trying to foster a friendship but I would have nothing to do with that. Over the next two years He dropped off 3 capes and a load of driftwood that I didn't ask and wasn't home when he dropped it off. I told him that the capes were to small and that he could have them back but he never took them. I told him I didn't need the driftwood but according to him it was a gift.the whole time he was running a tally because remember in my initial post to him FRIEND = FREE TAXIDERMY
I'm done with this thread. I'm intirely to busy to follow this circus. I can sleep well at night knowing that I've treated ALL my customers equally
V/R and for the last time on this issue
Jeff Monyak
Trails End Taxidermy
www.trailsendtaxidermy.biz
Post by: billythekidrock on July 03, 2009, 05:14:53 AM
Post by: boneaddict on July 03, 2009, 12:19:08 PM
Post by: CoryTDF on July 03, 2009, 12:35:06 PM
such a childish war. If you reread my post you will see that i did a fine job of telling my story and being courteous to you. Wow, i really am taken back by your actions. This again proves what i said you are not a good person. I see now that it was only a blessing that our friendship ended i am better off. Thank you for making that decision easy for me to make.
The real question here is what did i have to gain by telling that stoy? What does Jeff have to gain by making me look bad? I have no reason to lie! I
I'm sorry to those who defended me i didn't mean to sound ungrateful thank you for the suport. You are the reason i belong to this site i value your input and support.
Post by: boneaddict on July 03, 2009, 12:58:15 PM
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P.s. I am disappointed at the level of immaturity displayed by many of you. I can't believe that you would say suck horrible things about a person you have never met.
Actually Cory, i think very few site members actually said much negative about you. Only a few new guys who were obviously siding with the accused. Hopefully you understood that the parenthesis around my remark didn't mean to reflect upon you, but was used to make a point. You also have a great 4th.
Post by: WDFW-SUX on July 03, 2009, 01:21:36 PM
Post by: mossback91 on July 03, 2009, 04:12:34 PM
Post by: CoryTDF on July 03, 2009, 05:58:37 PM
Unfortunately i have been out of town for the past few days and could not comment on this issue. I don't have much time but i will ask one question of Jeff and all who seem to fancy me a poacher. Have you ever mis counted anything in your life. Have you every made a mistake? and have you ever been investigated by the game department for helping a person poach several different species of animals? Jeff has! He also admitted me me that he shot two of the turkeys in his shop with a 243. This crap has to stop. Jeff you are a child! The very first sentence in my post says that i was not trying to take business from you. All i did was tell my story. I said you were good at what you do. I feel I was cheated. I don't think you are an honest person, but you have done good work for people that i know. How dare you call me a poacher! How dare any of you say that about me! I was involved with shooting an extra duck i fessed up took the fine and paid it in full. People make mistakes. I have also volunteered for the game department turned in poachers and am in good standing with my local game officials. Can you say the same Jeff. Before you bash me remember what i was a privy to. You are not so honest! How dare you turn this into
such a childish war. If you reread my post you will see that i did a fine job of telling my story and was careful to be as courteous to you as i could. Wow, i really am taken back by your actions. This again proves what i said you are not a good person. If somebody would have asked you 3 years ago if we were friends you would have had a different story to tell. I see now that it was only a blessing that our friendship ended i am better off. Thank you for making that decision easy for me to make.
The real question here is what did i have to gain by telling that story of my experience with Jeff? What does Jeff have to gain by making me look bad? I have no reason to lie! It would seem that somebody is just playing a little game of CYOA. This in no way ever benefited me.
I'm sorry to those who defended me i didn't mean to sound ungrateful thank you for the support. You are the reason i belong to this site i value your input and support.
Sorry it took so long here are a few pictures of what i was given from Trails end. Now i challenge you to look at his work that was done for other people and compare. I will say again Jeff is capable of good work, but this is not it. I hope you all can see that i have again said JEFF CAN DO GOOD WORK it's not my fault he is an immature little girl about an honest critique of his sub par work. Sorry Jeff but the mounts you did for me are crap! Take this as you want, but don't you ever accuse me of something i didn't do you insecure, childish, pathetic, shallow man!!!
Post by: bobcat on July 03, 2009, 06:02:57 PM
Post by: littlebuf on July 03, 2009, 06:04:51 PM
Post by: CoryTDF on July 03, 2009, 06:06:28 PM
Post by: CoryTDF on July 03, 2009, 06:23:00 PM
Post by: billythekidrock on July 03, 2009, 06:32:21 PM
I don't understand why any taxidermist would put out anything but the best work he is capable of. Just like any professional, it's not smart to do any work for anybody that is not done right. If he wasn't willing to do the job right he should not have agreed to do it at all.
I agree and have a hard time understanding this as well.
Post by: boneaddict on July 03, 2009, 06:36:25 PM
Post by: EastWaViking on July 03, 2009, 06:52:28 PM
But..that mount looks like a dead carp with antlers on it.
Post by: mossback91 on July 03, 2009, 07:06:28 PM
Post by: Little John on July 03, 2009, 07:56:39 PM
Post by: boneaddict on July 03, 2009, 07:58:46 PM
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on July 03, 2009, 08:07:37 PM
I don't understand why any taxidermist would put out anything but the best work he is capable of. Just like any professional, it's not smart to do any work for anybody that is not done right. If he wasn't willing to do the job right he should not have agreed to do it at all.
Why would you put a mount like that out your door? Just my :twocents: but it doesn't matter if you thought you owed Cory a good cape or not. It reflects on you as a taxidermist regardless of the situation you had with Cory. Other people are going to see that deer. If your not going to put 110% into something than just don't accept the work!
Post by: jackelope on July 03, 2009, 08:15:28 PM
:dunno:
i'm not too keen on bashing a guy's way of life on the WWW either. :twocents:
Post by: markts on July 03, 2009, 09:00:37 PM
i still can't figure out why cory got to keep the extra ducks after getting busted for them.The way I read it, Cory explained a bad experiance and said the guy can do good work :twocents: In my line of work (body-fender) if you do $hitty work word gets around. Same for him I would guess> :twocents: Mark
:dunno:
i'm not too keen on bashing a guy's way of life on the WWW either. :twocents:
Post by: billythekidrock on July 03, 2009, 09:13:35 PM
I have had as bad an experience as you can have from a taxi. I would never share it on the internet.
Why not? Do you want another hunter to have the same experience? :dunno:
Post by: mossback91 on July 03, 2009, 10:22:58 PM
:yeah:I have had as bad an experience as you can have from a taxi. I would never share it on the internet.
Why not? Do you want another hunter to have the same experience? :dunno:
Post by: 270Shooter on July 03, 2009, 10:52:39 PM
Post by: CoryTDF on July 03, 2009, 11:37:05 PM
It was one extra duck, one time in my life. The game department took the ONE duck the moment they isued the ticket.I was allowed to keep the other duck as it was part of my legal daily limit. I was issued a citation which read" Over limit game birds one pintail duck" The other ducks were killed legally, one at a time on separate days and then frozen. it was a honest mistake which i regret. How did this all get switched around on me? I made it very clear that i was not trying to take work away from him. If you want to use him go for it. I will choose another taxi.
Post by: Arcate on July 04, 2009, 01:55:19 AM
I'm a little supprized that your a little upset that this thread became a personal attack, but you can only blame your self. If you wanted to post a bad experience that's fine but you went beyond that and made it personal in your very first post by attacking a mans livelihood and person. You basically Compliment him While Kicking him in the balls. I don't know a single man who would lay down and allow that to happen ( Kinda like me labling you as a poacher ) and not have anything to say in there defence when you only told half truths.
Yes that mount Isn't the best work done, yes it took you a long time to get it back, and yes you paid full price. What you failed to mention is that you never paid for a quality cape, It took a while to get back because 24 inch capes cant be bought at SEARS or WALMART and don't grow on trees, and yes you paid about $400 - $450 for the mount ( the normal price for a customer that brings in the whole Mount I.E. Cape & Antlers) not the price of about $600 which is normally paid by customers who only bring in the antlers and the taxi would use the extra $150 to purchase a grade A quality Cape for the mount. You need to be a MAN and own some of this.
Now Like I said the pics that you posted look bad and have no problem with you complaining about the work that was done GOD knows I would, but taking a man bird hunting Gifting driftwood, and unusable capes has nothing to do with the mounts you posted about and that Cory is why this post became what it is now.
Now with that all aside I CHALLANGE YOU !!! ITS TIME NOW TO PUT UP OR SHUT UP. You know this Taxi Produces Quality mounts you said it yourself. In Jeff's First Post he stated that He Offered you a FREE!!!! Remount under the stipulation that You Provide the Quality Cape that your Looking for. Remember and I'm sure you Taxi's out there can agree Your limited when it comes to the Quality of the Specimen and with that Expect to pay about $100 - $150. Take this Offer from the Taxi and have this Corrected. Get the Quality Cape you Should have years ago and this time get it done right. What are you out, a cape that you paid nothing for.. COME ON ... Stop being a little girl about this and flaming a man that has and had offered to fix the work. To me this taxi has gone out of the way to make things right but you refuse to have it fixed and what for?So you can BOOO HOO on the internet and try and discredit them? So Take my Challenge and Then post those PICS and see how satisfied you are. Stop Being a Little Girl about it and Do something.
Now If it comes back all jacked up and a quality Cape was provided then yes Flame on but when your offered a Free remount I have to ask myself whats wrong with this guy, and why hasn't he taken him up on this offer ??
The way I see it you have 3 options:
1: Keep the mount the way it is and Cry about it on the internet.
2: Take it to a New Taxi Pay around $600 to have it redone.
3: Spend $100 - $150 for a Quality cape and take to Trails End For the FREE remount that has been on the table for Years.
Post by: ICEMAN on July 04, 2009, 04:20:44 AM
When I was a general contractor, I always strived for great work. Ever so often, someone did not like something, we would try to make it better. Not everyone was always happy, on either end. I am very glad that these things were not aired in public like this.
Personally, I think both parties should not try to iron things out after this type of open airing of thier positions. I would just chalk all things learned up to experience and move on. Both parties move on.
Post by: ICEMAN on July 04, 2009, 04:50:16 AM
Post by: littlebuf on July 04, 2009, 08:49:08 AM
Post by: CoryTDF on July 04, 2009, 09:43:27 AM
Now Like I said the pics that you posted look bad and have no problem with you complaining about the work that was done GOD knows I would, but taking a man bird hunting Gifting driftwood, and unusable capes has nothing to do with the mounts you posted about and that Cory is why this post became what it is now.
Arcate,
I may be wrong here but I looks as though you joined this site right about the time I posted my first comment on this thread. You have only had three post and they have all been about me. Are you a friend of Jeff? His son maybe? Either way it is apparent to me that you came to this site with only one goal. To trash me!
As far as the above quote goes, um.. you are just plain wrong! I personally watched Jeff use one of the capes that I gave him and he told me how much he got for it. He also told me about how he had sold at least three of them. Look at the cape he gave me. after seeing that can you even imagine what an unusable cape would look like based on what i was given. I am grateful for the things he taught me. I did at one time consider him to be an actual friend who I did recreation activities with. However, after knowing full well what Jeff’s talents are, and seeing what he can do. After he tried to pass off a ridiculous mount to me. I felt and was cheated. At first I did take Jeff up on his offer to remount the deer. When I asked when he would get it done his reply was " I'll just have to wait until somebody gives me another cape". Take this how you want to but ask yourself this, what would you have done? You have already said you think that the work is not good. So I ask again, What would you have done?
Little history as well! In the last year I have done allot of improvements to my home. My father is a contractor and my best friend is a floor coverer. I paid them both normal going rate for the work they did for me. If I was not looking to get free work from my family what would make you think that I was walking around Jeff’s shop with my hand out?
Thank you Arcate for labeling me as fast as you did. It was a very clear statement about yourself and the kind of person you are. You have never met me, never heard anything about me, yet you speak as though you have a sour personal relationship with me. I hope that you can get over this. Leave your personal attacks in your own mind. Jeff and I are no longest friends and will never be. This was never your place to jump in and attack me stand back, think about what you say, and if you can think of something that is not a direct one sided bash on me by all means share!
I'm not a poacher! I am not a sleazy friend looking for handouts! I am a honest person who thought that he had made friends with a taxidermist. I was mistaken! Bottom line here is when I saw this thread i felt obligated to tell my story because it may have saved somebody from going through the same crap I had to. To all who naysay me that is your right. I am not a bad guy. In general Jeff is not a bad guy. This is just a case of two people who don’t get along. I am appalled that Jeff would stoop so low as to call me a poacher. I know in my heart i told my story without being dishonest and shallow. He cannot say the same. This is over I’m done with it. :beatdeadhorse:
Post by: littlebuf on July 04, 2009, 10:45:13 AM
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