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Title: The person running the Bureau of Land Management Should Not be an Eco-Terrorist
Post by: Bushcraft on June 29, 2021, 10:41:55 AM
The Biden administration and Backcountry Hunters and Anglers supports this train wreck of a human.  Be very careful who you support as it pertains to the sport(s) we all love.  Some are wolves in sheep’s clothing.

From article:

Sen. Jim Risch, R-Idaho, told Fox News in an email Thursday that anyone familiar with the "eco-terrorist practice" of tree-spiking does not consider Stone-Manning "exceptionally qualified."

"When Idahoans hear someone who conspired with tree spikers is the administration’s pick to lead the largest land management agency in America, they are rightfully appalled. Conspiring with tree spikers is not a mistake," Risch said. "A mistake is opening the sock drawer in the morning and pulling out two socks that don’t match. When you knowingly, willfully, intentionally, with malice and forethought, attempt to take someone else’s life – that’s not a mistake."


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/white-house-blm-stone-manning-ecoterrorism-population-control

Let the D.C. Swamp creature know you oppose her confirmation!
Title: Re: The person running the Bureau of Land Management Should Not be an Eco-Terrorist
Post by: Jake Dogfish on June 29, 2021, 11:04:50 AM
I’m not sure sending a letter on someone else’s behalf makes her a terrorist.
Title: Re: The person running the Bureau of Land Management Should Not be an Eco-Terrorist
Post by: Igor on June 29, 2021, 11:20:17 AM
I’m not sure sending a letter on someone else’s behalf makes her a terrorist.

Maybe just an eco-terrorist sympathizer ?
Title: Re: The person running the Bureau of Land Management Should Not be an Eco-Terrorist
Post by: KFhunter on June 29, 2021, 11:48:12 AM
Ducks of a feather....
Title: Re: The person running the Bureau of Land Management Should Not be an Eco-Terrorist
Post by: Jake Dogfish on June 29, 2021, 12:08:51 PM
Guilt by association.
Title: Re: The person running the Bureau of Land Management Should Not be an Eco-Terrorist
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on June 29, 2021, 06:16:01 PM
Kind of like a pendulum swings.  Trump appointed Pendley, who was a total clown and didn't know anything about wildlife or habitat (an expert in extraction though!) now we have Stone-Manning that isn't really ideal for an agency that's been mired in controversy since the BS in Bunkerville. 

I forgive her for her part in the timber wars.  That was 30 years ago... it's probably time to let go of that.  I'm pleased that she's a hunter and has spent decades hunting and recreating in the west. 
Title: Re: The person running the Bureau of Land Management Should Not be an Eco-Terrorist
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on June 29, 2021, 06:17:47 PM
I’m not sure sending a letter on someone else’s behalf makes her a terrorist.

Maybe just an eco-terrorist sympathizer ?

It was probably forgivable 20 years ago....she was an undergrad at UM when all this went down in the late 80's... she's not exactly an eco terrorist.   
Title: Re: The person running the Bureau of Land Management Should Not be an Eco-Terrorist
Post by: KFhunter on June 29, 2021, 06:45:09 PM
I still see spiked trees in Idaho forests, came across a bunch last year in a patch of trees in a logged area, I was like why did tbey leave those trees standing?  Got closer seen big spikes sticking out the tree 20 feet up and lower.
Title: Re: The person running the Bureau of Land Management Should Not be an Eco-Terrorist
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on June 29, 2021, 08:17:52 PM
Scary, I have not seen them but have a pile of buddies that feed their families by working in the woods and have probably encountered it.  Luckily, most logging is mechanized now and it wouldn't be as likely to injure anyone.  Equipment repairs would be costly though
Title: Re: The person running the Bureau of Land Management Should Not be an Eco-Terrorist
Post by: Humptulips on June 29, 2021, 09:16:54 PM
Scary, I have not seen them but have a pile of buddies that feed their families by working in the woods and have probably encountered it.  Luckily, most logging is mechanized now and it wouldn't be as likely to injure anyone.  Equipment repairs would be costly though
Speaking as a retired logger I doubt there was ever much danger to loggers from spiked trees. The real danger was presented in the mill when a saw blade or chipper head came into contact with a spike.
Title: Re: The person running the Bureau of Land Management Should Not be an Eco-Terrorist
Post by: bearpaw on June 29, 2021, 09:21:34 PM
Scary, I have not seen them but have a pile of buddies that feed their families by working in the woods and have probably encountered it.  Luckily, most logging is mechanized now and it wouldn't be as likely to injure anyone.  Equipment repairs would be costly though
Speaking as a retired logger I doubt there was ever much danger to loggers from spiked trees. The real danger was presented in the mill when a saw blade or chipper head came into contact with a spike.

 :yeah:  Exactly, that has happened in the mills and it's not good on equipment, and potentially very dangerous for anyone nearby.
Title: Re: The person running the Bureau of Land Management Should Not be an Eco-Terrorist
Post by: KFhunter on June 29, 2021, 09:34:56 PM
Scary, I have not seen them but have a pile of buddies that feed their families by working in the woods and have probably encountered it.  Luckily, most logging is mechanized now and it wouldn't be as likely to injure anyone.  Equipment repairs would be costly though
Speaking as a retired logger I doubt there was ever much danger to loggers from spiked trees. The real danger was presented in the mill when a saw blade or chipper head came into contact with a spike.

fairly certain they use metal detectors before the debarker,  I know Dad grumbled a lot when trees got culled for metal in them. 

something about (#&$& kids and tree forts   :peep:

Title: Re: The person running the Bureau of Land Management Should Not be an Eco-Terrorist
Post by: Jake Dogfish on June 29, 2021, 09:52:24 PM
Anyone pounding spikes in trees is a idiot and not a environmentalist.
Hopefully more people will come forward and testify.
I don’t know anything about this lady, but be careful what you wish for because the next nominee could be worse. 
Title: Re: The person running the Bureau of Land Management Should Not be an Eco-Terrorist
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on June 30, 2021, 05:30:13 AM
Anyone pounding spikes in trees is a idiot and not a environmentalist.
Hopefully more people will come forward and testify.
I don’t know anything about this lady, but be careful what you wish for because the next nominee could be worse. 

Testify to what??  This was over thirty years ago.  This is just due diligence and folks looking for dirt on an appointee
Title: Re: The person running the Bureau of Land Management Should Not be an Eco-Terrorist
Post by: KFhunter on June 30, 2021, 08:31:11 AM
I don't give her a pass for spiking trees

I don't give Chipman a pass for WACO

I don't give Garland a pass for his "decisions"


With so many well qualified people, I expect the best, not these people with baggage.


And I don't care right or left, nominees should be spotless
Title: Re: The person running the Bureau of Land Management Should Not be an Eco-Terrorist
Post by: downtownbrown0610 on June 30, 2021, 09:10:25 AM
I was reading up on this whole thing the other day. I do not agree with this at all. It is also very unnerving to me the amount of people that are willing to look past something like this. I always give people the benefit of the doubt, but to me this is not ok. I am not one for discussing politics or partisan issues but you cant tell me this is the best person we could come up with!?!? Do I think that she honestly cares about the administering of federal lands and their proper use? yes probably. Do I think that there is another agenda at play? 100% absolutely. Give an inch and they will take a mile. We do not have many more inches to give......
Title: Re: The person running the Bureau of Land Management Should Not be an Eco-Terrorist
Post by: jstone on June 30, 2021, 09:12:43 AM
Talent= they can hire whoever they want qualified or not.
Title: Re: The person running the Bureau of Land Management Should Not be an Eco-Terrorist
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on June 30, 2021, 09:13:45 AM
I don't give her a pass for spiking trees

With so many well qualified people, I expect the best, not these people with baggage.

And I don't care right or left, nominees should be spotless
To be clear- she didn't spike trees...she testified in a case that got others charged with spiking trees.

I agree that nominees should be a good fit, no one is spotless.  IMO she is an improvement over Pendley, but maybe not 100% perfect.  I think she will be good for hunters though.
Title: Re: The person running the Bureau of Land Management Should Not be an Eco-Terrorist
Post by: KFhunter on June 30, 2021, 09:19:59 AM
I don't give her a pass for spiking trees

With so many well qualified people, I expect the best, not these people with baggage.

And I don't care right or left, nominees should be spotless
To be clear- she didn't spike trees...she testified in a case that got others charged with spiking trees.

I agree that nominees should be a good fit, no one is spotless.  IMO she is an improvement over Pendley, but maybe not 100% perfect.  I think she will be good for hunters though.
Not going to argue as I can't do anything about it anyway, but I do hope you're right.

Title: Re: The person running the Bureau of Land Management Should Not be an Eco-Terrorist
Post by: KFhunter on June 30, 2021, 11:06:24 AM
Federal taxes, and inflation
Title: Re: The person running the Bureau of Land Management Should Not be an Eco-Terrorist
Post by: ribka on July 12, 2021, 10:11:03 AM
I agree with her politics so matter what crimes she committed I support and  anyways Trump is to blame. The leader at conservation NW is also a self admitted eco terrorist and I imagine Mitch is a close friend of hers as they were members in the same terrorist organization.

She has zero experience running and managing a large organization but her left wing radical politics makes her unquestionably qualified to manage our public lands. She could not even qualify for a basic background clearance because of her terrorist ties and that would exclude her from many entry level govt jobs. . This is such crazy logic but normal these days. Just like BHA leadership pushing gun bans to help back country hunters.

talk about cognitive dissonance.  :chuckle: :chuckle:


I’m not sure sending a letter on someone else’s behalf makes her a terrorist.

Maybe just an eco-terrorist sympathizer ?

It was probably forgivable 20 years ago....she was an undergrad at UM when all this went down in the late 80's... she's not exactly an eco terrorist.
Title: Re: The person running the Bureau of Land Management Should Not be an Eco-Terrorist
Post by: Platensek-po on July 12, 2021, 10:34:28 AM
I agree with her politics so matter what crimes she committed I support and  anyways Trump is to blame. The leader at conservation NW is also a self admitted eco terrorist and I imagine Mitch is a close friend of hers as they were members in the same terrorist organization.

She has zero experience running and managing a large organization but her left wing radical politics makes her unquestionably qualified to manage our public lands. She could not even qualify for a basic background clearance because of her terrorist ties and that would exclude her from many entry level govt jobs. . This is such crazy logic but normal these days. Just like BHA leadership pushing gun bans to help back country hunters.

talk about cognitive dissonance.  :chuckle: :chuckle:


I’m not sure sending a letter on someone else’s behalf makes her a terrorist.

Maybe just an eco-terrorist sympathizer ?

It was probably forgivable 20 years ago....she was an undergrad at UM when all this went down in the late 80's... she's not exactly an eco terrorist.

Do you actually have evidence of BHA supporting gun bans? Would like to see that.
Title: Re: The person running the Bureau of Land Management Should Not be an Eco-Terrorist
Post by: KFhunter on July 12, 2021, 10:39:49 AM
BHA, or the leadership involved with BHA?
Title: Re: The person running the Bureau of Land Management Should Not be an Eco-Terrorist
Post by: Platensek-po on July 12, 2021, 10:57:23 AM
BHA, or the leadership involved with BHA?

Either I guess. I would like to see what initiatives they have put forth or statements they have made to show they are against gun ownership.
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