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Title: Old wound ?
Post by: NOCK NOCK on July 11, 2021, 03:19:40 PM
Looks like it to me,  :dunno:
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Post by: jrebel on July 11, 2021, 03:53:46 PM
Sure does look that way.  Would be cool to see the other side.
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Post by: LDennis24 on July 11, 2021, 05:13:31 PM
Looks like it may be that. I have seen livestock get a hole in that spot from an injury and it will weep fluid for a long long time if it gets into the stomach cavity. Maggots help keep it clean and draining too so it will look wet around the wound like that. Had an icelandic ram get bit by a dog and looked that way for eight months or more.
Title: Re: Old wound ?
Post by: NOCK NOCK on July 11, 2021, 07:19:53 PM
Sure does look that way.  Would be cool to see the other side.


Was hoping to, but she never turned.
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Post by: KFhunter on July 11, 2021, 07:32:31 PM
Cougar
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Post by: bornhunter on July 11, 2021, 10:13:26 PM
Sure does look that way.  Would be cool to see the other side.


Was hoping to, but she never turned.

What if you turned the photo over?
Title: Re: Old wound ?
Post by: NOCK NOCK on July 12, 2021, 04:55:01 PM
Cougar


Curious what makes ya think that. I would think that a cat would have left scratch and bite marks too. I was thinking either a gun wound, or a stab wound from a bull or branch. She will show up again and maybe get a peek at her other side.

Title: Re: Old wound ?
Post by: jrebel on July 12, 2021, 05:09:49 PM
That wound is in no mans land……right below the spine and just above the lungs.  My guess is an arrow complete pass through or possibly arrow to the spine and broke off.   Could also be a rifle wound….if that’s the case the bullet didn’t perform well at all because even a poor shot from a rifle would have had enough cavitation to destroy the upper lungs and possibly spine. 

Who knows though!!!!!  Could be an infection from a tick???   :dunno: :dunno:
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Post by: jstone on July 12, 2021, 05:36:21 PM
I was thinking the arrow theory to.
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Post by: Stein on July 12, 2021, 05:45:41 PM
I would guess arrow and the hair was licked off around it.  Looks like it would go right through the meat and either between or through a feather bone.
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Post by: Matth on July 12, 2021, 06:23:58 PM
I would guess arrow and the hair was licked off around it.  Looks like it would go right through the meat and either between or through a feather bone.

My thoughts exactly, I would guess arrow for sure.
Title: Re: Old wound ?
Post by: NOCK NOCK on July 12, 2021, 06:33:47 PM
Hmmm, could be arrow, would think the hole would be bigger, or more triangular shaped though.  :dunno:
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Post by: HAGEMANIAC on July 12, 2021, 06:38:18 PM
I would have guessed arrow as well
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Post by: HooknoseHunter on July 12, 2021, 07:44:43 PM
Not to hijack your thread but I think this bull has an old wound as well. It might be the lighting but it sure looks like a slash or something. Any guesses? Thanks.
Title: Re: Old wound ?
Post by: LDennis24 on July 13, 2021, 07:29:43 AM
He's just in the sunlight at a funny angle I think. As for the cow, the wound would get hot and the hair around it will slough off. I have all manner of livestock and do my own vet work most of the time. Some meds are restricted to having a vet license so I still use a very good vet nearby and buy hay from a USDA vet. I get to see a lot of animal wounds. I recall a bull elk one time that had this same wound. As stated by jrebel, that wound didn't hit any vitals is my guess. It went clean through and isn't healing probably because it's a sucking wound. Who knows what really did it but I would guess as long as she keeps it clean enough it will heal up.
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Post by: Matth on July 13, 2021, 07:43:34 AM
Hmmm, could be arrow, would think the hole would be bigger, or more triangular shaped though.  :dunno:

I'm sure it probably was larger, and more triangular, 10 months or so ago.
Title: Re: Old wound ?
Post by: LDennis24 on July 14, 2021, 01:10:50 AM
I find it pretty interesting honestly. My icelandic ram even got blow fly maggots in his wound and I had to clean him up. It looked horrible. He is one tough little SOB. The larvae ate away all the tissue that was infected and that created more holes. One set of holes was open over his spine area even. I will find the pics for you guys. I killed the maggot larvae by dripping ivermectin into the wounds then swabbing them out with cotton and q-tips. The smell was unbelievable. He is still alive and going strong today though after weeks of daily doses of penicillin and keeping the wounds covered to prevent eggs from being layed.
Title: Re: Old wound ?
Post by: trophyhunt on July 14, 2021, 06:27:44 AM
That wound is in no mans land……right below the spine and just above the lungs.  My guess is an arrow complete pass through or possibly arrow to the spine and broke off.   Could also be a rifle wound….if that’s the case the bullet didn’t perform well at all because even a poor shot from a rifle would have had enough cavitation to destroy the upper lungs and possibly spine. 

Who knows though!!!!!  Could be an infection from a tick???   :dunno: :dunno:
Prob a 6.5 creed.....   :chuckle:
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Post by: jrebel on July 14, 2021, 06:31:16 AM
That wound is in no mans land……right below the spine and just above the lungs.  My guess is an arrow complete pass through or possibly arrow to the spine and broke off.   Could also be a rifle wound….if that’s the case the bullet didn’t perform well at all because even a poor shot from a rifle would have had enough cavitation to destroy the upper lungs and possibly spine. 

Who knows though!!!!!  Could be an infection from a tick???   :dunno: :dunno:
Prob a 6.5 creed.....   :chuckle:


Now you’ve gone to far!!!     :o  leave the creed…out of this.  Clearly this was a west sided that doesn’t shoot enough and is got lucky to even find an elk from the cab of his truck.   :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Old wound ?
Post by: trophyhunt on July 14, 2021, 07:07:04 AM
 :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Post by: Fatherof5 on July 14, 2021, 07:49:09 AM
That wound is in no mans land……right below the spine and just above the lungs.  My guess is an arrow complete pass through or possibly arrow to the spine and broke off.   Could also be a rifle wound….if that’s the case the bullet didn’t perform well at all because even a poor shot from a rifle would have had enough cavitation to destroy the upper lungs and possibly spine. 

Who knows though!!!!!  Could be an infection from a tick???   :dunno: :dunno:
Prob a 6.5 creed.....   :chuckle:

CWD??? Creedmoor Wasting Disease  :IBCOOL:

Now you’ve gone to far!!!     :o  leave the creed…out of this.  Clearly this was a west sided that doesn’t shoot enough and is got lucky to even find an elk from the cab of his truck.   :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Old wound ?
Post by: Jonathan_S on July 14, 2021, 07:59:40 AM
If that was an arrow/broadhead straight through, that would be a long dead elk. There is no void below the spine.
Title: Re: Old wound ?
Post by: buggy on July 14, 2021, 02:28:28 PM
Sure looks like a wound to me. Here is a possible scenario,

Someone shot it with a rifle. Didn't hit vitals but shockwave paralyzed it temporarily so it dropped in its tracks. Shooter heads over to punch his tag and begin dressing it when it jumps up and takes off never to be seen again......until now.

Title: Re: Old wound ?
Post by: Dhoey07 on July 14, 2021, 02:46:41 PM
Cougar


Curious what makes ya think that. I would think that a cat would have left scratch and bite marks too. I was thinking either a gun wound, or a stab wound from a bull or branch. She will show up again and maybe get a peek at her other side.

Two years ago I hit a bull  high in about that same spot I'm guessing.  I found my arrow with about 6" broke off the end.  I assumed it hit spine and snapped on impact.  It ate at me for a long time and I sure hope the bull was able to recover.  Hope this cow does as well.
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