Post by: yajsab on August 18, 2021, 08:43:34 AM
Well, it looks like I have no choice but to turn in the tag. It's a bummer to watch the hunting area burning down.
Thank you for all the info and photos.
Post by: Woodchuck on August 18, 2021, 08:54:05 AM
If they get it put out, the elk will not take long to get right back in there.
@dvolmer
Post by: bobcat on August 18, 2021, 08:57:37 AM
Post by: yajsab on August 18, 2021, 09:22:26 AM
Post by: Jonathan_S on August 18, 2021, 09:33:52 AM
I have the antlerless and my friend has the bull. Looking at the fire map, it's burning right where we always hunt at swamp creek.
It's obviously your choice but even without knowing what your hunt is, I wouldn't turn in either tag unless I couldn't get into the unit.
Post by: mburrows on August 18, 2021, 09:51:59 AM
I have the antlerless and my friend has the bull. Looking at the fire map, it's burning right where we always hunt at swamp creek.
It's obviously your choice but even without knowing what your hunt is, I wouldn't turn in either tag unless I couldn't get into the unit.
2nd that. Could be years before your buddy gets a bull tag again and even years to get the cow tag again
Post by: emac on August 18, 2021, 10:01:59 AM
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Post by: Woodchuck on August 18, 2021, 10:07:08 AM
Anyone has a view of the fire? How bad is it? It's getting near bow season and really nervous that my tag (and some) will go down the drain this year. Sure, we can turn it in but then there is no hunt, especially when we have been prepping for a year for this.
Post by: yajsab on August 18, 2021, 10:09:10 AM
Post by: kirkl on August 18, 2021, 10:16:13 AM
You may also return your special permit and have your points restored.
(WAC 220-412-080 (4))
If you choose to return your permit, you must return it two weeks prior to the season starting. We will restore your preference points for that hunt category but will not refund your application or license fees.
Please note that if you choose to turn in your permit, but then fire conditions improve, we cannot return the permit back to you.
Should I consider exchanging my tag or return my special permit for point restoration?
Current rule allows hunters to exchange* current tags for seasons and areas less likely to be affected by emergency land closures.
You can exchange your tag if:
The season for which the tag was issued has not opened, and
You did not apply for a special hunt, and
You must request a tag exchange by the deadlines listed below:
Archery tags – before Sept. 1
Muzzleloader tags – before Sept. 20
Modern firearm tags – before Oct. 10.
*Tag exchange under WAC 220-220-100 (5) & (6)
Post by: emac on August 18, 2021, 10:17:11 AM
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Post by: yajsab on August 18, 2021, 11:08:06 AM
Emac, it's 352.
Post by: emac on August 18, 2021, 12:00:54 PM
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Post by: Karl Blanchard on August 18, 2021, 12:19:54 PM
Post by: emac on August 18, 2021, 01:37:08 PM
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Post by: Naches Sportsman on August 18, 2021, 01:40:39 PM
Post by: yajsab on August 18, 2021, 02:41:06 PM
Bummer on my cow tag for sure. Hope they don't close all of Bumping.
Post by: jason stevens on August 18, 2021, 05:12:51 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on August 18, 2021, 06:11:06 PM
To those of you turning in your bull tags my 2 cents would be don't. It takes an act of God to draw an theres always an option. Elk will go back into burned areas after the fire. So do some thinking. Is your so called points worth turning in the tag or is a little research better. Just my thoughts but do what you wish.the issue isn't with the elk leaving, its actually being able to access the unit. In the case of his cow tag in 352, there's zero access at this time and likely won't be by archery. That bull tag is good for 356 as well as 352 though so unless it makes a serious run to the south, there will be plenty of country to hunt on the white pass side. Personally that's the side id be on anyways with that tag :twocents:
Post by: MtnMuley on August 18, 2021, 06:14:57 PM
To those of you turning in your bull tags my 2 cents would be don't. It takes an act of God to draw an theres always an option. Elk will go back into burned areas after the fire. So do some thinking. Is your so called points worth turning in the tag or is a little research better. Just my thoughts but do what you wish.the issue isn't with the elk leaving, its actually being able to access the unit. In the case of his cow tag in 352, there's zero access at this time and likely won't be by archery. That bull tag is good for 356 as well as 352 though so unless it makes a serious run to the south, there will be plenty of country to hunt on the white pass side. Personally that's the side id be on anyways with that tag :twocents:
You're taking these elk tags pretty serious these days, Karl :chuckle:
Post by: teanawayslayer on August 18, 2021, 06:31:53 PM
agreed 100 percent!To those of you turning in your bull tags my 2 cents would be don't. It takes an act of God to draw an theres always an option. Elk will go back into burned areas after the fire. So do some thinking. Is your so called points worth turning in the tag or is a little research better. Just my thoughts but do what you wish.the issue isn't with the elk leaving, its actually being able to access the unit. In the case of his cow tag in 352, there's zero access at this time and likely won't be by archery. That bull tag is good for 356 as well as 352 though so unless it makes a serious run to the south, there will be plenty of country to hunt on the white pass side. Personally that's the side id be on anyways with that tag :twocents:
Post by: jason stevens on August 18, 2021, 06:37:26 PM
agreed 100 percent!Quote from: jason stevens
link=topic=263402.msg3573751#msg3573751 date=1629331971To those of you turning in your bull tags my 2 cents would be don't. It takes an act of God to draw an theres always an option. Elk will go back into burned areas after the fire. So do some thinking. Is your so called points worth turning in the tag or is a little research better. Just my thoughts but do what you wish.the issue isn't with the elk leaving, its actually being able to access the unit. In the case of his cow tag in 352, there's zero access at this time and likely won't be by archery. That bull tag is good for 356 as well as 352 though so unless it makes a serious run to the south, there will be plenty of country to hunt on the white pass side. Personally that's the side id be on anyways with that tag :twocents:
I agree with this but remember it's not just this unit. There's others that have open land an in 2 months when it's time it will be amazing. I've hunted after burn an you would be surprised. At the end of the day it's the hunters choice. I wish they would hand me a permit after 18 years of waiting I'd make it work. Good luck to everyone regardless of your decision. An if you turn in I hope you draw again
Post by: 92xj on August 21, 2021, 06:49:23 AM
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on August 21, 2021, 01:19:50 PM
I thought I heard/read, if a unit is fully closed you can wait up until the day before the hunt starts to turn a tag in, instead of the new two week window rule for tag turn in. Is that correct? I know this topic is dealing with an area that includes more than a single unit, but what about the single unit hunts?This is what I was personally told by WDFW. Though after this dumping the blues got, and the recent fire behavior…I’m almost certainly going to hang on to my tag.
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Post by: 92xj on August 21, 2021, 01:26:19 PM
I thought I heard/read, if a unit is fully closed you can wait up until the day before the hunt starts to turn a tag in, instead of the new two week window rule for tag turn in. Is that correct? I know this topic is dealing with an area that includes more than a single unit, but what about the single unit hunts?This is what I was personally told by WDFW. Though after this dumping the blues got, and the recent fire behavior…I’m almost certainly going to hang on to my tag.
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Absolutely. I think that’s the correct path forward with your tag.
Post by: goldenhtr on September 03, 2021, 01:53:49 PM
I thought I heard/read, if a unit is fully closed you can wait up until the day before the hunt starts to turn a tag in, instead of the new two week window rule for tag turn in. Is that correct? I know this topic is dealing with an area that includes more than a single unit, but what about the single unit hunts?
I called and this what I was told as well. She lots of grace during this fire season.