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Title: My 1st EV
Post by: CP on August 23, 2021, 10:53:17 AM
I’m not ready to go full EV yet.  So, this seems like a good place to start.  Jury is still out on how practical it is to own a vehicle with less than 100 miles of range.  But I can load it in the back of the F150 and nobody gets a motorcycle for practical reasons.  I think it’s going to work out.

Title: Re: My 1st EV
Post by: Stein on August 23, 2021, 11:06:08 AM
Nice, does it have an auto-wheelie button?
Title: Re: My 1st EV
Post by: CP on August 23, 2021, 11:18:52 AM
 Someone else is going to have to ride it if there’s a wheelie involved.  I never learned how to ride one.
Title: Re: My 1st EV
Post by: Sandberm on August 23, 2021, 12:09:58 PM
Is it heavy? Fast?
Title: Re: My 1st EV
Post by: CP on August 23, 2021, 12:22:54 PM
Is it heavy? Fast?

It's only a tad over 300lbs and scary quick.  The torque from electric motors is pretty amazing.
Title: Re: My 1st EV
Post by: emac on August 23, 2021, 12:28:54 PM
What kind is it?  Is it street legal? Looks like it is.  And what's the top speed?

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Title: Re: My 1st EV
Post by: CP on August 23, 2021, 12:33:02 PM
What kind is it?  Is it street legal? Looks like it is.  And what's the top speed?

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It's street legal, I'll never experience the top speed.  Made by Zero motorcycles:

https://www.zeromotorcycles.com/model/zero-ds
Title: Re: My 1st EV
Post by: emac on August 23, 2021, 01:04:07 PM
Dang 98 mph that thing will move

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Title: Re: My 1st EV
Post by: KFhunter on August 23, 2021, 01:43:18 PM
You ever come my way I'll let you know top speed and how she wheelies  :4w:


Seriously though, that's awesome
Title: Re: My 1st EV
Post by: Matth on August 24, 2021, 10:44:58 AM
That thing is super cool.
Title: Re: My 1st EV
Post by: Stein on August 24, 2021, 10:51:16 AM
78 ft lbs of torque on a bike that weighs 317 pounds?  Better hang on.
Title: Re: My 1st EV
Post by: phildobaggins on August 24, 2021, 11:12:02 AM
Those Zero bikes are seriously so rad. I'd say one of the best electric motorcycles on the market. ENJOY!  :tup:
Title: Re: My 1st EV
Post by: CP on August 25, 2021, 02:08:17 PM
I never would have guessed how inexpensive it is to operate one of these.  I’m averaging 53 WH/mile.   That’s about .6 cents per mile charging it in my garage. 
Title: Re: My 1st EV
Post by: Special T on August 25, 2021, 03:07:15 PM
I have to say that the "environmental advocate" folks would do much better for advancing twords eletric vehicles if they focused on baby step technology thike this....
Title: Re: My 1st EV
Post by: Alchase on August 25, 2021, 08:23:46 PM
You ever come my way I'll let you know top speed and how she wheelies  :4w:


Seriously though, that's awesome

Interesting question, on a “non-EV” bike you control a wheelie with the throttle.

Can a electric or EV bike do the same, with throttle control?
Title: Re: My 1st EV
Post by: CP on August 26, 2021, 11:34:43 AM
You ever come my way I'll let you know top speed and how she wheelies  :4w:


Seriously though, that's awesome

Interesting question, on a “non-EV” bike you control a wheelie with the throttle.

Can a electric or EV bike do the same, with throttle control?

I assume so, the throttle is just like a regular bike.  No clutch to "pop" though. 
Title: Re: My 1st EV
Post by: Farmer72 on August 26, 2021, 12:28:18 PM
Does it need an endorsement? I know gas bikes 50cc and greater need one but what is the cc equivalent for E-bikes.
Title: Re: My 1st EV
Post by: Sandberm on August 26, 2021, 12:35:00 PM
An EV would make a great farm motorcycle. You ride it for the day and then plug it in at night. Your never more then the width of your farm from the plug in. Put a nice rack on the back like the trail 110's, bam, your gettin' work done.  :tup:
Title: Re: My 1st EV
Post by: pianoman9701 on August 26, 2021, 12:37:42 PM
They're pretty cheap. For my commute, it would take about 4 years savings on gas to pay for itself.
Title: Re: My 1st EV
Post by: CP on August 26, 2021, 12:52:27 PM
Does it need an endorsement? I know gas bikes 50cc and greater need one but what is the cc equivalent for E-bikes.

Yeah, it needs an endorsement.  Anything capable of 30mph or more is legally a motorcycle in WA and requires an endorsement.  Below 30 can be a moped, no endorsement needed but must be registered.  Below 28mph can be a bicycle, no license required. 
Title: Re: My 1st EV
Post by: Farmer72 on August 26, 2021, 02:22:21 PM
Does it need an endorsement? I know gas bikes 50cc and greater need one but what is the cc equivalent for E-bikes.

Yeah, it needs an endorsement.  Anything capable of 30mph or more is legally a motorcycle in WA and requires an endorsement.  Below 30 can be a moped, no endorsement needed but must be registered.  Below 28mph can be a bicycle, no license required.

Good to know. I never really paid attention as I have an endorsement.
Title: Re: My 1st EV
Post by: Stein on September 01, 2021, 09:46:08 AM
You ever come my way I'll let you know top speed and how she wheelies  :4w:


Seriously though, that's awesome

Interesting question, on a “non-EV” bike you control a wheelie with the throttle.

Can a electric or EV bike do the same, with throttle control?

I assume so, the throttle is just like a regular bike.  No clutch to "pop" though.

For some reason, that was my first thought, add a gyro and with electronic throttle control all you need is a W button and anyone could roll like Evil.
Title: Re: My 1st EV
Post by: CP on September 01, 2021, 10:28:57 AM
I can't wait to try.


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Title: Re: My 1st EV
Post by: CP on September 01, 2021, 10:30:57 AM
I don’t think this qualifies for the WA state sale’s tax exemption but I sent in a claim anyway.  Worth a try for the price of a stamp.  I can’t find the definition of a “medium duty passenger vehicle”. 
Title: Re: My 1st EV
Post by: phildobaggins on September 01, 2021, 11:09:43 AM
I don’t think this qualifies for the WA state sale’s tax exemption but I sent in a claim anyway.  Worth a try for the price of a stamp.  I can’t find the definition of a “medium duty passenger vehicle”.

Nice, let us know if you get it!
Title: Re: My 1st EV
Post by: CP on September 01, 2021, 11:38:52 AM
I don’t think this qualifies for the WA state sale’s tax exemption but I sent in a claim anyway.  Worth a try for the price of a stamp.  I can’t find the definition of a “medium duty passenger vehicle”.

Nice, let us know if you get it!

Will do.
Title: Re: My 1st EV
Post by: KFhunter on September 01, 2021, 12:15:27 PM
An EV would make a great farm motorcycle. You ride it for the day and then plug it in at night. Your never more then the width of your farm from the plug in. Put a nice rack on the back like the trail 110's, bam, your gettin' work done.  :tup:

A heifer ran over me and broke my foot while I was using a motorcycle to herd them, so I caution to not use cowboy boots while chasing cows.....
Title: Re: My 1st EV
Post by: CP on September 07, 2021, 04:30:21 PM
I don’t think this qualifies for the WA state sale’s tax exemption but I sent in a claim anyway.  Worth a try for the price of a stamp.  I can’t find the definition of a “medium duty passenger vehicle”.

Nice, let us know if you get it!

Nope, doesn't qualify.  I got my rejection letter today. 
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