Post by: raydog on September 29, 2021, 11:04:22 AM
https://nwsportsmanmag.com/wdfw-calls-for-public-comment-on-spring-2022-black-bear-permit-hunt-proposal/
Post by: JJB11B on September 29, 2021, 11:06:11 AM
Wdfw is proposing a small decrease in Tag number for the spring season. They are taking public commentwhy the hell would they decrease the tag allotment? I swear theyre trying to get rid of any non predators.
https://nwsportsmanmag.com/wdfw-calls-for-public-comment-on-spring-2022-black-bear-permit-hunt-proposal/
Post by: raydog on September 29, 2021, 11:10:17 AM
Wdfw is proposing a small decrease in Tag number for the spring season. They are taking public commentwhy the hell would they decrease the tag allotment? I swear theyre trying to get rid of any non predators.
https://nwsportsmanmag.com/wdfw-calls-for-public-comment-on-spring-2022-black-bear-permit-hunt-proposal/
I’m scratching my head too... get those comments up there fellas. Might help, might fall on deaf ears :dunno:
Post by: Stein on September 29, 2021, 11:16:25 AM
A) Support continued reduction in tags and opportunity and overly burdensome pelt requirements, or
B) Do not support spring bear hunting.
There should be two questions:
1) Do you support spring bear hunting?
2) If so, do you support the modifications to the program? (namely reduced opportunity again despite large numbers of problem bears and low harvest and continuation of pelt requirement)
Post by: Stein on September 29, 2021, 11:19:11 AM
Wdfw is proposing a small decrease in Tag number for the spring season. They are taking public commentwhy the hell would they decrease the tag allotment? I swear theyre trying to get rid of any non predators.
https://nwsportsmanmag.com/wdfw-calls-for-public-comment-on-spring-2022-black-bear-permit-hunt-proposal/
I’m scratching my head too... get those comments up there fellas. Might help, might fall on deaf ears :dunno:
It's in the attached doc:
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The reduction in permit numbers for hunt unit 684 (from 10 to 6) will reduce crowding in
accessible areas of mostly private land. T
GMU 684 has a 40% reduction in available tags. The other change is reinforcing the pelt requirement. Pelt with attached skull and proof of sex required to be presented to WDFW within 5 days of notification of the kill.
Post by: boneaddict on September 29, 2021, 11:30:34 AM
Unfortunately we are obligated to comment or really don’t have the right to bitch.
Nothing like having you by the balls
Post by: pickardjw on September 29, 2021, 11:40:03 AM
Post by: dilleytech on September 29, 2021, 12:13:42 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on September 29, 2021, 12:22:55 PM
Post by: hunter399 on September 29, 2021, 12:44:41 PM
I don't think it matters much,this is just the red tape before the hammer drops.
Some of you guys might not like my comment that much,but I'm going to tell ya anyway.
Here it is.
General spring season!!!
With a 1 Bear limit ,Spring or Fall ,illegal to shoot sow with cubs Spring or Fall,Bear harvest and estimated Bear Population could support this. Also leveling out harvest to sustainable for future Hunters and bear alike. Revenue goes up,Bear population goes up,Hunters are happy .
Seems other states are able to achieve this yet Washington lacks the skill and educated wildlife personal that can't achieve this. Does anybody read these comments, This comment Stuff is a joke.
Just wanted to add above is my comment. But I really don't think bear population would go up,but would stay about the same,but my above comment was just a pitch with no homerun of course.
Post by: vandeman17 on September 29, 2021, 01:14:32 PM
Always feels like you did your part by commenting, but it's a joke, they have already made up their minds, they just want us to think we have a say. I'm glad to see they only reduced the permits in one unit.
Sounds like elections
Post by: trophyhunt on September 29, 2021, 01:19:38 PM
exactly!Always feels like you did your part by commenting, but it's a joke, they have already made up their minds, they just want us to think we have a say. I'm glad to see they only reduced the permits in one unit.
Sounds like elections
Post by: dilleytech on September 29, 2021, 01:32:41 PM
Left a comment.
I don't think it matters much,this is just the red tape before the hammer drops.
Some of you guys might not like my comment that much,but I'm going to tell ya anyway.
Here it is.
General spring season!!!
With a 1 Bear limit ,Spring or Fall ,illegal to shoot sow with cubs Spring or Fall,Bear harvest and estimated Bear Population could support this. Also leveling out harvest to sustainable for future Hunters and bear alike. Revenue goes up,Bear population goes up,Hunters are happy .
Seems other states are able to achieve this yet Washington lacks the skill and educated wildlife personal that can't achieve this. Does anybody read these comments, This comment Stuff is a joke.
Just wanted to add above is my comment. But I really don't think bear population would go up,but would stay about the same,but my above comment was just a pitch with no homerun of course.
So accidental lactating killed sows get left to rot. I get to kill one less bear every year. And the population goes up? How is any of that a good thing?
Post by: hunter399 on September 29, 2021, 01:57:05 PM
I figured I get the this💩that💩and this sounds like a bad idea.Left a comment.
I don't think it matters much,this is just the red tape before the hammer drops.
Some of you guys might not like my comment that much,but I'm going to tell ya anyway.
Here it is.
General spring season!!!
With a 1 Bear limit ,Spring or Fall ,illegal to shoot sow with cubs Spring or Fall,Bear harvest and estimated Bear Population could support this. Also leveling out harvest to sustainable for future Hunters and bear alike. Revenue goes up,Bear population goes up,Hunters are happy .
Seems other states are able to achieve this yet Washington lacks the skill and educated wildlife personal that can't achieve this. Does anybody read these comments, This comment Stuff is a joke.
Just wanted to add above is my comment. But I really don't think bear population would go up,but would stay about the same,but my above comment was just a pitch with no homerun of course.
So accidental lactating killed sows get left to rot. I get to kill one less bear every year. And the population goes up? How is any of that a good thing?
Oh Well everybody is untitled to there own.
But I thought it sounded better than less tags.
Which is what we got.
So .......... What's your plan harvest all the bears. And never see a reduction. How is the loss of deer( bluetongue) gonna effect bear numbers. Have you factored in harvest reports,past season regulations,what are current est. Population and about a dozen other factors ,Let's not forget climate change and its effect .😏😏😏😏
This is how WDFW thinks and works man.
Don't the forget 5 and 10 and 25 year study we have to do ,that will tell you that the regulations should stay the same as 30 years ago. :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Stein on September 29, 2021, 02:04:22 PM
In this case, I believe the WDFW is responding to significant public opinion that shooting a sow with cubs is bad and shouldn't happen. If we can say there are measures in place, spring hunting might be able to continue, or at least have one fewer negative point to argue.
Unfortunately, I don't think that will be the end of the discussion, dragging wet pelts into WDFW and having a permit system won't stop the detractors and they will argue one of their other several bullet points which will likely either stop the spring hunting or place additional burdens on WDFW and hunters to keep it open.
Post by: high_hunter on September 29, 2021, 02:09:36 PM
Sportsmen and WDFW should focus time /efforts on improving hunt opportunities, not limit tags and impose burdensome mandatory pelt sealing restrictions.
Post by: hunter399 on September 29, 2021, 02:13:28 PM
SPRING!!!!SEASON!!!!!!!
OTC SPRING SEASON!!!!!!!!!
Post by: RB on September 29, 2021, 03:17:02 PM
Post by: Alan K on September 29, 2021, 03:52:20 PM
Post by: Buzz2401 on September 29, 2021, 05:40:58 PM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on September 29, 2021, 06:33:59 PM
1. WDFW worded the question to get the response they have already decided upon.
2. If you don't vote and leave a comment, you can't complain.
...did my civic duty today, for whatever it's worth... :P
Post by: grundy53 on September 29, 2021, 06:36:35 PM
Bear populations withstood bait, hounds, trapping, bounties, etc. just fine for decades and decades. There is ZERO justification for giving up anything for more opportunity, especially after 25 years of a booming population above what was already sustainable.. The success of boot hunting, particularly on the west side, is so miniscule compared to the population you could increase the current bag limit AND have a March 1 to November 15 season and not put a dent in it. :twocents:Agree 100%
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Post by: elksnout on September 29, 2021, 09:20:54 PM
elksnout
Post by: hunter399 on September 30, 2021, 07:03:16 AM
I Agree with almost every comment on this topic so far.
Bear Population Boom
Lost Hunter Opportunities
Hunter Heritage for future.
And many more!!!!!!!!
We need more comments in there. Anti's have biologists,researchers,study's,lawyers,and money to burn.
Hunters have basically nothing to prove our claims.
More comments the better.
Post by: trophyhunt on September 30, 2021, 08:01:19 AM
Bear populations withstood bait, hounds, trapping, bounties, etc. just fine for decades and decades. There is ZERO justification for giving up anything for more opportunity, especially after 25 years of a booming population above what was already sustainable.. The success of boot hunting, particularly on the west side, is so miniscule compared to the population you could increase the current bag limit AND have a March 1 to November 15 season and not put a dent in it. :twocents:Hope you don’t mind but I copied and pasted your comment to my comment on my email to Wdfw.
Post by: dilleytech on October 01, 2021, 06:59:26 AM
Pretty much the only change I see is a reduction from 10 to 6 bears in the Long Beach area. Doesn't seem like that big of a deal and maybe it is needed down there. Not a big proponent for WDFW but doesn't seem like anything to get in a big uproar about. A 4 tag reduction isn't that big a deal and if they only did that one unit then it was probably needed. The pelt requirement isn't new for 2022.
And last year they took away tags as well. And next year they will try to take away more. Have you learned nothing about losing things in the last few years?
Post by: boneaddict on October 01, 2021, 08:31:30 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 01, 2021, 08:51:25 AM
"Spring tag numbers should by allocated according to population statistics, as proper game management is supposed to operate. The population of bears statewide has increased each year since the banning of baiting, and the incidence of human-bear conflict has increased accordingly. Not only should the number of tags in a unit not be decreased by 40%, more units and tags should be added to spring bear opportunities to minimize human-bear conflict and the current stress on ungulate offspring, most notably fawns. This proposed change does not coincide with proper and accepted game management practices. As such, I strongly oppose these changes."
Post by: KFhunter on October 01, 2021, 09:09:48 AM
Post by: idahohuntr on October 01, 2021, 09:33:24 AM
Post by: Special T on October 06, 2021, 10:35:15 AM
:bumpin: