Post by: Old Man8383 on September 29, 2021, 04:35:30 PM
Here's the Wa audit they're going to start with to do this: https://www.chronline.com/stories/culture-audit-of-washington-department-of-fish-and-wildlife-finds-problems-with-trust-bullying,273383
Here is Washington Wildlife First's web page: https://wawildlifefirst.org/ Check out the bio's of the leadership.
If you don't want Washington State to be turned into a NW Trek like petting zoo you'll have to once again get involved.
Post by: paguy on September 29, 2021, 05:00:13 PM
Post by: Buckhunter24 on September 29, 2021, 05:06:35 PM
Thanks, Donated.
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Post by: Special T on September 29, 2021, 05:56:11 PM
Thanks, Donated.
The members are HSUS, defenders of wildlife, the mountain lion foundation.... pretty much all the groups trying to shut down hunting.
Post by: paguy on September 29, 2021, 09:09:34 PM
Post by: kball4 on October 07, 2021, 10:15:50 AM
Post by: buckfvr on October 07, 2021, 10:50:23 AM
Post by: metlhead on October 08, 2021, 10:18:22 AM
Post by: Special T on October 08, 2021, 10:45:41 AM
I read the info posted on their website. Without having done any deep research, I am not seeing what is wrong. Seems this site is devoted to bashing WDFW on any topic that seems to personally affect an individual. Kind of the 'What about me' rather than 'us' way of thinking. The organization looks to be about responsible consumptive conservation. We all can agree that the direction we are headed is not sustainable and eventually cuts sportspersons out of the picture. I am a supporter of things that work and make a difference. Even if that means some sacrifice. Anyone with more details on this organization that would share, please do. Thanks
I am more interested in actions than platitudes posted on their web page. Let me list member organizations and let's see how comparable those organizations are with consumptive use.
Center for Biological Diversity, HSUS, Defenders of Wildlife, Wild Earth Guardians, predator Defence, NW Animal Rights Network, Mountain Lion Foundation, Cascadia Woodlands, Kettle Range Conservation Group.
This is a coalition of groups that are working to whittle down hunting one notch at a time. If you think those names are interested in promoting or saving hunting your dillusional.
Sportsmen need to open up their wallets and or become active in ADVOCACY groups, not your favored critter org that is habitat focused.
Post by: metlhead on October 08, 2021, 11:05:47 AM
Post by: buckfvr on October 08, 2021, 11:08:27 AM
Post by: Special T on October 08, 2021, 01:31:29 PM
I appteciate the information about the member organizations. What does that mean? Do they share finances? Collaborate? Looking to do the most good, and so many organizations with different agendas makes information critical when it comes to a good future investment.
I'm not sure how any sportsmen that remotely pays attention does recognize at least a couple of those names as vehemently anti hunting. HSUS Humane Society of United States should be the most well known. WWF is a rebranding scheme to soften their anti hunting agenda. This follows the same play book as HSUS. HSUS piggy backs off of the Humaine Society that runs many of the rescue services we often think of as the pound. They steal the reputation and fundraising dollars from a worthy cause to push the Anti hunting agenda. These orgs in WWF are responsible for us looking Hound hunting, changed trapping laws, and push to eliminate Spring Bear hunting.
Post by: pickardjw on October 08, 2021, 01:41:49 PM
Post by: Special T on October 08, 2021, 01:59:14 PM
What are the best advocacy groups to join? I think most people are aware of the species specific groups like Ducks Unlimited, RMEF, NWTF, etc., but not sure I could name a general hunting advocacy group off the top of my head.
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Those are all conservation groups. The mirror Image of This new anti group appears to be Washingtonians for Wildlife Conservation. W4WC.org
It came into existence as a result of the Anti hound hunting initiative. Sportsmen groups/clubs I belong to are organizational members. SCI is probably the biggest block of supporters.
Post by: metlhead on October 08, 2021, 04:50:50 PM
Post by: buckfvr on October 08, 2021, 05:24:29 PM
Post by: Special T on October 08, 2021, 05:33:48 PM
Organizations that advocate hunting are great, but have found themselves headed down a dead end road if they do not bring in other aspects of the bigger picture. Many have survived through conservation. To continue, I believe we will need to accept that these 'anti' organizations are here to stay, will only grow, and that hunting/conservation organizations will need to work together with them to find compromise, or perish.
There are "Conservation" organizations that at least cloak themselves as sportsmen advocates. I don't see any of their names on this list. They are smart enough to not align themselves with is group of anti hunters.
If people cannot tell the difference between the 2 they are woefully ignorant... or they are part of the ruse to capture good natured sportsmen into their fold.