Post by: Crunchy on October 02, 2021, 03:32:57 PM
Thoughts....
Post by: str8meat on October 02, 2021, 03:43:49 PM
Post by: Rat44 on October 02, 2021, 03:50:32 PM
I have been using a 30/06 for years.
I know,its not exciting but it does everything I need it to.
If you reload all the better.
I"m kinda stuck on 180 Nosler Partitions but have been playing with the Barnes offerings also.
Post by: b23 on October 02, 2021, 04:18:13 PM
Post by: Crunchy on October 02, 2021, 04:45:00 PM
Post by: Duckslayer89 on October 02, 2021, 05:07:09 PM
any benefits on 300 win mag over 300 win short mag?
If your going to step it up and build a 30 cal I would look at the 300PRC. I for sure wouldn’t go smaller than 7mm for bear and elk, not from what I’ve seen at long range. I don’t know how far you want to shoot though. Have you thought about another 7mm? I love mine so I wouldn’t change anything
Post by: Crunchy on October 02, 2021, 05:35:30 PM
any benefits on 300 win mag over 300 win short mag?
If your going to step it up and build a 30 cal I would look at the 300PRC. I for sure wouldn’t go smaller than 7mm for bear and elk, not from what I’ve seen at long range. I don’t know how far you want to shoot though. Have you thought about another 7mm? I love mine so I wouldn’t change anything
Ive thought about building another 7mm and just buying another set of dies for it and shooting heavier bullets over the 168s I shoot now. But knowing me I would likely mix bullets or dies up so I thought build something different would keep me from doing that.
Post by: CP on October 02, 2021, 05:41:57 PM
Post by: Duckslayer89 on October 02, 2021, 05:46:00 PM
any benefits on 300 win mag over 300 win short mag?
If your going to step it up and build a 30 cal I would look at the 300PRC. I for sure wouldn’t go smaller than 7mm for bear and elk, not from what I’ve seen at long range. I don’t know how far you want to shoot though. Have you thought about another 7mm? I love mine so I wouldn’t change anything
Ive thought about building another 7mm and just buying another set of dies for it and shooting heavier bullets over the 168s I shoot now. But knowing me I would likely mix bullets or dies up so I thought build something different would keep me from doing that.
I shoot the 180 VLD hunting bullet in my 7mag. Just can’t imagine ever changing now. Besides maybe to go up to a 300PRC if I burn the barrel out eventually but I don’t see it happening. I like the 7 to much
Post by: Taco280AI on October 02, 2021, 06:04:49 PM
If I were going 7mag I'd use the 168LRX. If 300mag 175LRX.
Post by: Crunchy on October 02, 2021, 06:19:59 PM
What's the build? Heavy? Lightweight? Ranges intended? Hunt spot and stalk or shoot into the next county from your camp? Need more info. Bullet intended, target type or bone buster and keep going?
If I were going 7mag I'd use the 168LRX. If 300mag 175LRX.
Not light weight or heavy necessarily. Probable build on a Defiance, carbon fiber stock, and a fluted #5 contour from Benchmark since they did such a good job on my last barrel. Range for most of my deer is 200-700 yards. I want to keep the weight down but not into the carbon fiber wrapped barrels. Bergers have served me well on my 7mm, but I am open to trying other options as far as bullets go.
Post by: b23 on October 02, 2021, 06:47:13 PM
For me, it would depend on which bullet weight I was wanting to shoot and what barrel length I wanted to end up with. If I'm going 30 cal over 7mm I'd be shooting 200+ gr bullets. If you want to shoot lighter than the 200's I'd stick with a 7mm. In a medium weight 30cal build using a 22-24in tube shooting up to the 215's I think the 300WSM makes for a really nice setup. If I planned to shoot the 230-250 grainers I'd step up to a 30-338Lap Imp or maybe 300 Norma Imp but I'd run those with at least a 28in pipe but for 2-700yd work the 300WSM would serve you well.
I'm no particular fan of belted cases and the 300 Win just barely runs faster than the WSM so if I wasn't going to make the jump to the 30 Lapua Imp or Norma Imp but wanted more velocity than the WSM I'd probably do a 30 Nosler or 300PRC. ADG or Lapua makes brass for all the above so at least you'll have top notch brass to use.
Post by: TooTallMike on October 02, 2021, 07:14:09 PM
Went 1/8 twist and shooting cutting edge bullets but could shoot the long bois if I wanted to.
Right now it’s loving h1000 and I went with a 24” barrel. I know I could have gone longer but I’m still hitting steel at 800.
Post by: Jolten on October 02, 2021, 07:26:18 PM
Post by: JJB11B on October 02, 2021, 07:49:31 PM
Post by: Duckslayer89 on October 02, 2021, 08:01:50 PM
7mag, I’m all in on 7mag now
:yeah: But I’ve been planning my own build in my head of what I would do right now if I didn’t have my gun and a different caliber.
-300prc
-#4 bartlein carbon wrapped barrel. This will fit in a manners EH6A according to their customer service.
-Manners EH6A
-Defiance Deviant Hunter action.
-Whatever aftermarket trigger you prefer.... lightweight bad ass rifle and you can shoot the 215-230s. That’s the only reason I would switch from 7mag to shoot those bullets.
Post by: Igor on October 02, 2021, 08:05:31 PM
Post by: Duckslayer89 on October 02, 2021, 08:14:55 PM
I think I'd go with .300 Win mag. That way you could kill stuff. But then, you would not be able to dazzle your friends with terms like Lapua and Nosler and Creedmoor.
There’s that crowd of man buns then there’s the crowd that actually shoots and knows a little
Post by: Igor on October 02, 2021, 08:33:51 PM
I think I'd go with .300 Win mag. That way you could kill stuff. But then, you would not be able to dazzle your friends with terms like Lapua and Nosler and Creedmoor.
There’s that crowd of man buns then there’s the crowd that actually shoots and knows a little
Yeah, those man bun guys that are in love with their 7mms are different. I'm surprised that nobody has come up with a cartridge called the 7mm ManBun.
Post by: konradcountry on October 03, 2021, 06:27:30 PM
You won't get as much meat compared to a wimpy smaller caliber like 300 win mag but a lot of the meat will be pre-cooked.
Post by: Jimmy33 on October 03, 2021, 07:07:35 PM
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Post by: MADMAX on October 03, 2021, 07:15:46 PM
Nowadays I’m surprised that the 7mm mannlicher isnt the rage :chuckle:I think I'd go with .300 Win mag. That way you could kill stuff. But then, you would not be able to dazzle your friends with terms like Lapua and Nosler and Creedmoor.
There’s that crowd of man buns then there’s the crowd that actually shoots and knows a little
Yeah, those man bun guys that are in love with their 7mms are different. I'm surprised that nobody has come up with a cartridge called the 7mm ManBun.
Post by: elkaholic123 on October 03, 2021, 07:23:22 PM
Post by: jason stevens on October 03, 2021, 07:25:44 PM
Post by: Cougartail on October 03, 2021, 08:37:50 PM
Nowadays I’m surprised that the 7mm mannlicher isnt the rage :chuckle:I think I'd go with .300 Win mag. That way you could kill stuff. But then, you would not be able to dazzle your friends with terms like Lapua and Nosler and Creedmoor.
There’s that crowd of man buns then there’s the crowd that actually shoots and knows a little
Yeah, those man bun guys that are in love with their 7mms are different. I'm surprised that nobody has come up with a cartridge called the 7mm ManBun.
It is but they are afraid to take them out of the closet. :chuckle:
Post by: Little Stu on October 03, 2021, 10:36:11 PM
Post by: The Big Game Hunter on October 05, 2021, 08:14:36 AM
The fact that it's still a pretty new cartridge means that it's tough to see what the future holds with it. On one hand, 6.8 Western rifles and ammo are surprisingly easy to find right now. In fact, it's much easier for me to find 6.8 Western ammo than 7mm Rem Mag or 300 Win Mag ammo at this instant. That's basically been the case since the 6.8 Western was introduced back in January of 2021. That's obviously a significant benefit in the short term.
This ammo shortage will (hopefully) end and it will eventually be easier to find most of the really common stuff again though. At that point, it's anybody's guess what will happen with the 6.8 Western. So, I think it's a pretty solid choice in the short term. As with any new cartridge though, you do run the risk of being an early adopter and being left high and dry if it doesn't really catch on and Browning and Winchester stop producing rifles and factory ammo for it in a few years....
Post by: Duckslayer89 on October 05, 2021, 08:41:39 AM
I think I'd go with .300 Win mag. That way you could kill stuff. But then, you would not be able to dazzle your friends with terms like Lapua and Nosler and Creedmoor.
What have you killed so far this year btw Igor?
Post by: phildobaggins on October 05, 2021, 08:45:21 AM
I think I'd go with .300 Win mag. That way you could kill stuff. But then, you would not be able to dazzle your friends with terms like Lapua and Nosler and Creedmoor.
:yeah: :chuckle:
Post by: Igor on October 05, 2021, 08:47:21 AM
I think I'd go with .300 Win mag. That way you could kill stuff. But then, you would not be able to dazzle your friends with terms like Lapua and Nosler and Creedmoor.
What have you killed so far this year btw Igor?
Well, modern rifle season opens on the 16th, and my Ruger Ultralight in .270 Winchester is ready to go. Ask me again in a couple of weeks.
Post by: timberfaller on October 05, 2021, 09:10:38 AM
If you have a caliber that can't do 700yds, get closer to your target! :chuckle: After all its called "Hunting"!
Post by: Duckslayer89 on October 05, 2021, 09:22:09 AM
I think I'd go with .300 Win mag. That way you could kill stuff. But then, you would not be able to dazzle your friends with terms like Lapua and Nosler and Creedmoor.
What have you killed so far this year btw Igor?
Well, modern rifle season opens on the 16th, and my Ruger Ultralight in .270 Winchester is ready to go. Ask me again in a couple of weeks.
Nice. I’m two bears down so far with my 7mm. One at 688 yards 😂. Killin stuff
Post by: Igor on October 05, 2021, 09:26:33 AM
I think I'd go with .300 Win mag. That way you could kill stuff. But then, you would not be able to dazzle your friends with terms like Lapua and Nosler and Creedmoor.
What have you killed so far this year btw Igor?
Well, modern rifle season opens on the 16th, and my Ruger Ultralight in .270 Winchester is ready to go. Ask me again in a couple of weeks.
Nice. I’m two bears down so far with my 7mm. One at 688 yards 😂. Killin stuff
Good work. Hope the rest of the season goes as well for you..............
Those bears would be deader if you were shooting a .300 Win Mag............just kidding.
Post by: Crunchy on October 05, 2021, 09:49:23 AM
Post by: jasnt on October 05, 2021, 08:01:25 PM
I built a fast twist 300wm to shoot monos or the heaviesI did the same but went 28”
Went 1/8 twist and shooting cutting edge bullets but could shoot the long bois if I wanted to.
Right now it’s loving h1000 and I went with a 24” barrel. I know I could have gone longer but I’m still hitting steel at 800.
Post by: Crunchy on October 05, 2021, 08:57:50 PM
Post by: Jason on October 05, 2021, 09:06:55 PM
I need to pull the trigger and try to find the action or get it ordered as well as the stock. Those will probably be the longest wait.Which action you going with?
Post by: Crunchy on October 05, 2021, 09:07:47 PM
Post by: b23 on October 05, 2021, 11:39:02 PM
Thinking Defiance but not 100%
Usually longer waits, unless you can find one in stock somewhere, but BAT and Defiance would be my top two picks.
Post by: C-Money on October 06, 2021, 06:49:36 AM
Post by: MooseZ25 on October 06, 2021, 07:05:44 AM