Post by: cle elum bowhunter on November 03, 2021, 07:54:50 PM
Drives an early 2000 Ford crew cab with Canopy, all Red. See attached.
Vehicle located, I am on scene, 100+ searchers, late yesterday dog gave indication on steep terrain dropping off slope into milk creek. Saturday search to focus on the area west of devils slide. Numerous ground and air assets working yesterday. Thanks to all and hoping our weather window holds out another day. Today I will be safety so hoping we can avoid any incidents/injuries to search crews.
Post by: 92xj on November 03, 2021, 08:05:00 PM
I really hope he’s cutting up a spike in a hell hole and just figuring out how to get outta there.
Hope this ends well. I can’t imagine having a lost friend/family member. One of my worst nightmares.
Post by: jrebel on November 03, 2021, 08:05:37 PM
Post by: Sutherland on November 03, 2021, 08:23:32 PM
Post by: h20hunter on November 03, 2021, 08:29:10 PM
Post by: Naches Sportsman on November 03, 2021, 08:35:17 PM
Post by: Rainier10 on November 03, 2021, 08:50:12 PM
Post by: cle elum bowhunter on November 03, 2021, 08:54:15 PM
Post by: jstone on November 03, 2021, 08:55:55 PM
Post by: IFunk on November 03, 2021, 08:56:30 PM
Post by: yakimanoob on November 03, 2021, 09:00:56 PM
If you have any info on the missing hunter, please contact the Rescue Coordination Center at 509-574-2538. If no one answers, call 911 and they will get the info to the teams in the field.
I am a member of YSO SAR and CWMR and would be out looking myself but an injury is keeping me home.
Post by: storyteller on November 04, 2021, 10:57:48 AM
Post by: Fatherof5 on November 04, 2021, 11:21:56 AM
Post by: cle elum bowhunter on November 04, 2021, 11:42:56 AM
Post by: gee_unit360 on November 04, 2021, 12:48:35 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 04, 2021, 01:15:06 PM
Post by: yakimanoob on November 04, 2021, 01:19:04 PM
Again, if you have any urgent info and can't reach them at that number or Yakima RCC at (509) 574-2538, call 911 and they will get the info where it needs to go.
Post by: OltHunter on November 04, 2021, 01:54:29 PM
This it maybe?
Post by: millerwheeler on November 04, 2021, 02:48:03 PM
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,265546.0.html
This it maybe?
Yes same hunter , search and rescue is still out looking . prayers sent there way hope he’s found and ok
Post by: millerwheeler on November 04, 2021, 02:48:27 PM
Post by: Rainier10 on November 04, 2021, 02:58:43 PM
Not sure if this is true but heard an elk hunter is missing out of Naches and drones are in the air..any validity to this or anyone hear this.. hope it's not true..Merged with the original sticky'd topic.
Post by: Jake Dogfish on November 04, 2021, 03:17:50 PM
Post by: jason stevens on November 04, 2021, 06:10:57 PM
Post by: powderbounder on November 04, 2021, 06:55:34 PM
Schreckengost was last seen at the Squaw Rock RV Resort and Campground in Naches, where he stayed to go hunting, according to family.
A state fish and wildlife official found his truck in Kittitas County on Forest Service 1703 Road.
Kittitas County is assisting with the search, using a drone with thermal imaging and two trail dogs to locate him.
According to Seattle Fire, a group of Seattle firefighters have travelled to Eastern Washington to assist in the search.
My prayers he is found safe.
Post by: follow maggie on November 04, 2021, 07:00:16 PM
Post by: RockChuck on November 04, 2021, 07:23:16 PM
Hope he is found safe!
Post by: BD1 on November 04, 2021, 07:34:13 PM
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on November 04, 2021, 07:45:56 PM
Post by: Katmai Guy on November 04, 2021, 07:52:52 PM
Lucky guy...prayers answered...again :tup:
found him?
Post by: jason stevens on November 04, 2021, 08:02:36 PM
Post by: powderbounder on November 04, 2021, 08:11:58 PM
Post by: Moose Master on November 04, 2021, 08:12:29 PM
Post by: BD1 on November 04, 2021, 08:29:00 PM
Post by: OutHouse on November 05, 2021, 10:11:32 AM
Post by: Rainier10 on November 05, 2021, 10:22:57 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 05, 2021, 10:45:06 AM
https://mynorthwest.com/3221536/seattle-fire-deputy-chief-missing-eastern-washington/
Post by: ajax25 on November 05, 2021, 07:23:35 PM
Post by: huntnfmly on November 05, 2021, 07:43:33 PM
Universal distress signal sure hope he his found safe prayers sent
Post by: cle elum bowhunter on November 06, 2021, 03:39:13 AM
Post by: TVHunts on November 06, 2021, 03:47:39 AM
Post by: puyallupaul on November 06, 2021, 09:41:54 AM
Seattle FD assistant chief.
Post by: hughjorgan on November 06, 2021, 12:12:48 PM
Post by: IFunk on November 06, 2021, 12:49:27 PM
https://www.gofundme.com/f/jay-schreckengosts-rescue-fund
I hope they find the Chief soon with the inclement weather forecasted!
Post by: Naches Sportsman on November 06, 2021, 09:36:28 PM
Hope he decided to go backpacking and didn’t slip and fall off of Devils Slide or one of the surrounding cliffs. Easy to get wedged in one of the cracks up there and that clay is slicker than snot.
Post by: trophyhunt on November 06, 2021, 09:42:06 PM
I’m kind of shocked they haven’t found him yet. Sure hoping there is an outcome soon.sounds like he knows what he’s doing in the woods, I have to think he’s had a medical problem or accident, no way he is lost.
Hope he decided to go backpacking and didn’t slip and fall off of Devils Slide or one of the surrounding cliffs. Easy to get wedged in one of the cracks up there and that clay is slicker than snot.
Post by: bornhunter on November 06, 2021, 09:49:01 PM
Post by: Angus on November 07, 2021, 08:17:35 AM
I’m kind of shocked they haven’t found him yet. Sure hoping there is an outcome soon.
Back in 91 my cousin killed himself in the Manastash during hunting season. Search and rescue did grid searches all around the area we knew he liked to hunt and they left ribbons in trees everywhere. After 3 days of ground and air searches they left but the family kept searching, when we found him there were 3 search and rescue ribbons within sight of his body and he was wearing hunter orange. :dunno:
Post by: huntnfmly on November 07, 2021, 08:47:01 AM
WTFI’m kind of shocked they haven’t found him yet. Sure hoping there is an outcome soon.
Back in 91 my cousin killed himself in the Manastash during hunting season. Search and rescue did grid searches all around the area we knew he liked to hunt and they left ribbons in trees everywhere. After 3 days of ground and air searches they left but the family kept searching, when we found him there were 3 search and rescue ribbons within sight of his body and he was wearing hunter orange. :dunno:
Why do people always do this
Let’s keep this thread positive
By the way Angus I’m sorry for your loss
Post by: elkrack on November 08, 2021, 07:46:25 AM
Post by: yakimanoob on November 08, 2021, 12:47:47 PM
Post by: Rainier10 on November 08, 2021, 12:49:16 PM
Post by: tgomez on November 08, 2021, 04:00:43 PM
Post by: gaddy on November 08, 2021, 06:08:52 PM
Post by: yakimanoob on November 08, 2021, 06:18:50 PM
An sos was sent out. Repeated three shots from a pistol close to a camp and no one went to look?
I'm sure someone went looking at that time. Either way, if anyone has information on that Wednesday morning distress signal (particularly the location of the camp from which it was heard or any way to contact the people who heard it) please PM me or call the Kittitas Sheriff's phone number posted above.
Post by: Oldguy on November 08, 2021, 06:23:48 PM
Post by: Crunchy on November 08, 2021, 06:27:04 PM
Post by: teanawayslayer on November 08, 2021, 06:41:16 PM
Have they found his truck? Most likely went off the road. Hopefully find his truck and find him.yeah they found his truck pretty quick
Post by: powderbounder on November 08, 2021, 07:42:12 PM
Post by: Timberstalker on November 09, 2021, 02:22:07 PM
Best wishes to this man and all involved.
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 10, 2021, 07:43:44 AM
Post by: Rainier10 on November 10, 2021, 08:08:30 AM
Post by: Timberstalker on November 10, 2021, 08:16:52 AM
Maybe it's the pistol shots they heard?
Pulling for this man.
Post by: Rainier10 on November 10, 2021, 08:30:04 AM
Man, that would be amazing. I'm wondering what they know that makes them think he is alive?:yeah: They must have a reason to still be positive.
Maybe it's the pistol shots they heard?
Pulling for this man.
Post by: GASoline71 on November 10, 2021, 09:05:52 AM
Hope this has a good outcome.
Post by: Stein on November 10, 2021, 09:45:14 AM
Post by: 7mmfan on November 10, 2021, 09:47:44 AM
People can last a long time, if he has fire and water there is still plenty of reasons for hope.
I agree with this, and I'm hopeful. But I have to believe that if he had fire they would have found him by now.
Post by: trophyhunt on November 10, 2021, 09:54:40 AM
Post by: OutHouse on November 10, 2021, 11:08:25 AM
People can last a long time, if he has fire and water there is still plenty of reasons for hope.
I agree with this, and I'm hopeful. But I have to believe that if he had fire they would have found him by now.
I feel the same way. Keep that fire burning and there would be a smoke trail to find him. I'm getting pretty worried with so much time having passed. I live above 20 miles east of this area as the crow flies and my windshield and lawn have been totally frozen over the last two mornings. Probably a lot colder up there. I hate to speculate, but sometimes people don't want to be found? Either way, hoping for good news/cautiously optimistic.
Like someone else commented. Just head downhill in that area and you will eventually here the hwy or walk right into it. I've been sort of lost in that area before hunting for morels and I just head down hill back the way I came.
Post by: SuperX on November 10, 2021, 12:21:20 PM
Post by: KNOPHISH on November 10, 2021, 12:32:26 PM
Post by: Bronson on November 10, 2021, 12:33:15 PM
Man, that would be amazing. I'm wondering what they know that makes them think he is alive?
Maybe it's the pistol shots they heard?
Pulling for this man.
Not trying to be negative and I really hope for a good outcome as well, but those shots were heard the night he went missing by a camp near where he was last known to be. I think that it was posted by someone on here a few pages back.
Post by: Sandberm on November 10, 2021, 12:53:43 PM
If he was just scouting he probably didn’t carry a bunch of food and water. I hope they questioned those camp robbers about it.Huh...
They caught them off White Pass I think but they could have been over off 410 too robbing camps... got caught trying to rob the guy and... :(
You think they would have found him by now but they didnt find that poor girl up at Hidden lake till this summer.
Post by: OutHouse on November 10, 2021, 05:12:41 PM
If he was just scouting he probably didn’t carry a bunch of food and water. I hope they questioned those camp robbers about it.Huh...
They caught them off White Pass I think but they could have been over off 410 too robbing camps... got caught trying to rob the guy and... :(
You think they would have found him by now but they didnt find that poor girl up at Hidden lake till this summer.
When there were two threads I think I commented on the same. Those people were apparently westsiders robbing camps around Rimrock I think but it would be a short drive to head down 12 and then back up 410 to look for more camps to rob.
Post by: Stein on November 10, 2021, 05:18:09 PM
Pretty tough to get lost in that area, he would know better to just walk down hill, lots of roads. Hate to be pessimistic but this sounds more and more like a medical problem or accident. Hope they find him for closure for the family.
Doesn't have to be lost, fall and break an ankle or leg and it's going to be awful hard to get out. Hunker down and hope someone finds you.
Post by: Bronson on November 10, 2021, 06:06:52 PM
If he was just scouting he probably didn’t carry a bunch of food and water. I hope they questioned those camp robbers about it.Huh...
They caught them off White Pass I think but they could have been over off 410 too robbing camps... got caught trying to rob the guy and... :(
You think they would have found him by now but they didnt find that poor girl up at Hidden lake till this summer.
When there were two threads I think I commented on the same. Those people were apparently westsiders robbing camps around Rimrock I think but it would be a short drive to head down 12 and then back up 410 to look for more camps to rob.
Pretty sure it was commented that the missing person was seen or heard from after those thieves were caught.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on November 10, 2021, 06:12:14 PM
Those shots could not have been to far from that camp. The amount of people out there looking I would have thought would have found him with a fire going. I would say chances are he is to hurt to build a fire or on a cliff or rock slide or something where he cant make a fire.
Sounds like they have been hunting that area for awhile and the guys hunting with him I would think would kinds know the way he travels after hunting with him before maybe? I know when I am hunting a area I hunt a lot I get certain patterns and travel routes but if he was chasing critters then all bets off of course. Just random thoughts.
Post by: fishngamereaper on November 10, 2021, 06:20:18 PM
With the resources they've used I would think if he was in his normal spots he would of been found..but that country is thick and steep in places.
I know for me, if I go missing in elk country I most likely will not be found.
Still holding out hope though for a miracle..
Post by: yakimanoob on November 10, 2021, 06:24:52 PM
Post by: Naches Sportsman on November 10, 2021, 07:04:09 PM
We did not find him today. The search effort will continue tomorrow.
Are they still only wanting folks with SAR, LEO, or Fire Dept. credentials to help search? In between jobs right now and will travel back to WA to search if allowed….
I been turned around in that area before in the fog and snow and ended up hiking down to gold creek. Wasn’t too proud of it.
Post by: yakimanoob on November 10, 2021, 09:41:30 PM
We did not find him today. The search effort will continue tomorrow.
Are they still only wanting folks with SAR, LEO, or Fire Dept. credentials to help search? In between jobs right now and will travel back to WA to search if allowed….
I been turned around in that area before in the fog and snow and ended up hiking down to gold creek. Wasn’t too proud of it.
I don’t know. Calling Kittitas Sheriffs office (RCC or main number) is probably the best way to find out.
Post by: 85yota on November 11, 2021, 09:55:45 AM
Post by: SuperX on November 11, 2021, 10:01:27 AM
Not trying to come off bad in this situation but my brother had a good question that someone here might able explain.. he was hunting the last weekend of the season in that area and was basically told they don't need/want help..question, when the hunter went missing why didn't they go across the mountains and say everyone willing and able come help look..the mountains were full of hunting camps and people who are prepared and already there..I bet tons of hunters would have dropped everything and gone looking immediately and since they were already there, prepared with time off one would think hundreds of hunters would be Jonny on the spot..I'm talking like 24hrs after he went missingYeah it sounds like a no-brainer, but I bet they would say it was too hard to manage that many people who don't have radios, etc. and that they didn't want to have more hunters lost or injured requiring resources that should be going to the OG missing hunter.
Why not cut loose a FLIR copter or 2 right away and grid the area like they did in Oso? I know drones are capable but are they the same capability as that?
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 11, 2021, 10:02:13 AM
Not trying to come off bad in this situation but my brother had a good question that someone here might able explain.. he was hunting the last weekend of the season in that area and was basically told they don't need/want help..question, when the hunter went missing why didn't they go across the mountains and say everyone willing and able come help look..the mountains were full of hunting camps and people who are prepared and already there..I bet tons of hunters would have dropped everything and gone looking immediately and since they were already there, prepared with time off one would think hundreds of hunters would be Jonny on the spot..I'm talking like 24hrs after he went missing. I can understand not wanting dogs running around if tracking k9s were there..but tons of hunters know that area so I would think it would make sense to have immediately had all hands on deck
They didn't need more SARs and that would've been the result.
Post by: 85yota on November 11, 2021, 11:01:15 AM
Post by: yakimanoob on November 11, 2021, 11:03:21 AM
Not trying to come off bad in this situation but my brother had a good question that someone here might able explain.. he was hunting the last weekend of the season in that area and was basically told they don't need/want help..question, when the hunter went missing why didn't they go across the mountains and say everyone willing and able come help look..the mountains were full of hunting camps and people who are prepared and already there..I bet tons of hunters would have dropped everything and gone looking immediately and since they were already there, prepared with time off one would think hundreds of hunters would be Jonny on the spot..I'm talking like 24hrs after he went missing. I can understand not wanting dogs running around if tracking k9s were there..but tons of hunters know that area so I would think it would make sense to have immediately had all hands on deck
I can speak to that, and don't worry, it's an understandable question and doesn't come off as bad.
Normally, we don't get many members of the public volunteering to help search; when we do, we can typically put them on a SAR team and are thankful for the extra set of eyes and ears.
In this case, the subject is a chief with Seattle Fire, and there have been hundreds of firefighters from all over the state volunteering on this mission. It has been deeply heartwarming to see how many folks are willing to step up and go out into the gross weather to help find Jay or at worst bring closure to the family.
Firefighters in general are tough, organized, disciplined, and capable folks, but they aren't specifically trained in wilderness search methods. So the short answer to your question as to why a hunter or member of the public would have been turned away is that they already have lots and lots of volunteers who don't have wilderness SAR training. Adding members of the public who aren't already a part of an organized team gets complicated for mission managers very quickly, and as pianoman said, presents an additional level of risk without any real increase in the probability of finding the subject.
Post by: yakimanoob on November 11, 2021, 11:14:18 AM
This is a traumatic event for Jay, the family, and everyone who knows them. Let's keep it respectful and positive.
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 11, 2021, 11:20:12 AM
Post by: Igor on November 11, 2021, 11:21:15 AM
On a different note, if you aren't familiar with the resources and methods being used on this search mission, please refrain from criticizing. It's foolish to ask why something wasn't done when you don't know whether that thing was done in the first place.
This is a traumatic event for Jay, the family, and everyone who knows them. Let's keep it respectful and positive.
Thank you for your insights into the situation, as well as your frequent updates. Hopefully, those that are inclined to criticize will heed your advice. Thanks again !!
Post by: OltHunter on November 11, 2021, 11:33:12 AM
I never knew about these until recently, but Personal Location Beacons (PLB) are cheap insurance when you don't have a satellite messenger.
This just goes to show you how hard it is to find someone off trail, baring a heart attack or traumatic injury in super thick canopy cover where you can't get a signal, these are invaluable to me for these types of situations. I carry one as well as a satellite messenger incase of a battery failure on either unit.
They are around $300 and last 5 years before a battery replacement is needed.
Post by: yakimanoob on November 11, 2021, 11:42:29 AM
Don't want to derail thread - but wanted to make sure everyone know about PLBs.
I never knew about these until recently, but Personal Location Beacons (PLB) are cheap insurance when you don't have a satellite messenger.
This just goes to show you how hard it is to find someone off trail, baring a heart attack or traumatic injury in super thick canopy cover where you can't get a signal, these are invaluable to me for these types of situations. I carry one as well as a satellite messenger incase of a battery failure on either unit.
They are around $300 and last 5 years before a battery replacement is needed.
This x1,000,000. PLB, inReach, SPOT, etc. Take your pick, just get one.
Satellite locators make for bored SAR teams 😉
Post by: 85yota on November 11, 2021, 11:54:37 AM
Post by: GASoline71 on November 11, 2021, 12:58:31 PM
We did not find him today. The search effort will continue tomorrow.
Are they still only wanting folks with SAR, LEO, or Fire Dept. credentials to help search? In between jobs right now and will travel back to WA to search if allowed….
I been turned around in that area before in the fog and snow and ended up hiking down to gold creek. Wasn’t too proud of it.
One thing about 346 and 342 is it can be either a road hunters paradise, or a backcountry nightmare if lost or hurt. Lots of rough terrain up there. I too have been turned around in bad weather up there and got very lucky on the outcome.
Gary
Post by: yakimanoob on November 11, 2021, 01:33:39 PM
If you're interested in SAR, shoot me a PM!
Post by: Smokepole on November 11, 2021, 02:58:13 PM
If I wasn't so old, I'd volunteer again. If you got the boot leather for it, I'd definitely recommend joining and helping out. It's a valuable and rewarding endeavor. :twocents:
Post by: thinkingman on November 11, 2021, 04:03:53 PM
Not to derail the post but I'm thinking of buying one for my 17 yr old son.Don't want to derail thread - but wanted to make sure everyone know about PLBs.
I never knew about these until recently, but Personal Location Beacons (PLB) are cheap insurance when you don't have a satellite messenger.
This just goes to show you how hard it is to find someone off trail, baring a heart attack or traumatic injury in super thick canopy cover where you can't get a signal, these are invaluable to me for these types of situations. I carry one as well as a satellite messenger incase of a battery failure on either unit.
They are around $300 and last 5 years before a battery replacement is needed.
This x1,000,000. PLB, inReach, SPOT, etc. Take your pick, just get one.
Satellite locators make for bored SAR teams 😉
Which would you recommend?
Take it to PM so as to not hijack the thread....
Post by: Iveexcaped3 on November 11, 2021, 05:58:35 PM
I’d think getting hunters on 1708 to glass the hill side has a possibility of being effective as we find dang antlers in sage brush and be out of the way. After this I’d consider joining the SAR team but they’re not doing training this year.
I think everyone here hopes he’s found since at the end of the day we all want to go home to our families. I hope spirts are still high in the rescue teams. Thank everyone involved.
Post by: Caseyd on November 11, 2021, 06:31:03 PM
Not to derail the post but I'm thinking of buying one for my 17 yr old son.Don't want to derail thread - but wanted to make sure everyone know about PLBs.
I never knew about these until recently, but Personal Location Beacons (PLB) are cheap insurance when you don't have a satellite messenger.
This just goes to show you how hard it is to find someone off trail, baring a heart attack or traumatic injury in super thick canopy cover where you can't get a signal, these are invaluable to me for these types of situations. I carry one as well as a satellite messenger incase of a battery failure on either unit.
They are around $300 and last 5 years before a battery replacement is needed.
This x1,000,000. PLB, inReach, SPOT, etc. Take your pick, just get one.
Satellite locators make for bored SAR teams 😉
Which would you recommend?
Take it to PM so as to not hijack the thread....
InReach hands down
Post by: Stein on November 11, 2021, 07:17:32 PM
I have both but the PLB stays home these days, just use it on the boat. If I'm going backcountry solo I usually take both.
For hunting, I would say InReach is the better option, particularly if you have a significant other at home.
Post by: MoparDoctor on November 11, 2021, 07:44:36 PM
Post by: teanawayslayer on November 11, 2021, 07:51:39 PM
Just read in the Yakima Herald that SAR will use a drone tomorrow to pickup a bluetooth signal from the lost hunter's Fitbit. If he had a iPhone and it was still running I wonder if they could use the Find My phone app to locate him. An Apple Air Tag sounds like a workable item in this situation.that’s interesting. Why wouldn’t they do that day one :dunno:
Post by: CispusRocks on November 11, 2021, 08:14:23 PM
Post by: MoparDoctor on November 11, 2021, 08:34:24 PM
Post by: yakimanoob on November 11, 2021, 09:22:24 PM
Just checked the web cam at Whistlin'Jacks and the SAR rigs and the mobile cell tower have left the parking lot.
Correct; they moved the mobile command post today. The search is still ongoing though.
I don’t have any direct knowledge of the questions regarding the subjects phone. That’s all handled by the Deputies since SAR folks are volunteer citizens and don’t have authority to get a location from someone else’s phone. I can tell you that cell ping records are always checked early in the process, and I’m sure it was done this time.
Post by: MoparDoctor on November 11, 2021, 10:59:14 PM
Post by: fishngamereaper on November 12, 2021, 05:43:18 AM
Still praying for a miracle.
Post by: teanawayslayer on November 12, 2021, 07:27:45 AM
Cell service along 410 doesn't exist. Hopefully they went up closer to the search zone. I have gotten a signal up on top of the hills.up on top of spring creek you get cell service. Probably not down in the hole though
Post by: GWP on November 12, 2021, 07:41:34 AM
Found a dog with a collar at the base of a sheer cliff once. Laying on rocks out in the open. No ID on the collar. Dried out, been there for a while.
Called it in to the Sheriff and WDFW in case someone reported it.
Got a call back and the fellow knew the area and described where he looked. Sounded right to me. He could not find it.
I would think the drones would be the best bet, but even that takes the camera aimed at the right place. If he ended up under any brush or a canopy of vegetation and he can not move, it will be hard for eyes or a drone to see him. Even 'if' he had hunter orange on.
Post by: Griiz on November 12, 2021, 08:07:28 AM
Post by: yakimanoob on November 12, 2021, 09:04:24 AM
There have been more than 70 searchers out every day, sometimes as many at 150+ on some days.
Kittitas, Yakima, King, Snohomish, Clark, and Pierce Counties have sent members of their SAR teams, and I'm sure there have been others I just didn't see. Everette, Seattle, Olympic, Chelan, Tacoma, and Central Washington Mountain Rescue teams have been out as well (I would not be surprised if Volcanoes and Inland Mountain Rescue have also sent folks that I just didn't run into. If so, that is the entire state's complement of Mountain Rescue teams).
There have been helicopters from JBLM and various county authorities searching every day as weather allows.
TMobile, Verizon, and AT&T have all set up emergency cell towers in the search area. King County ESAR also deployed mobile radio repeaters.
I can't even count the number of dog teams (both cadaver and live search), ATVs, drones, and other various resources that have been out in the field each day.
Major credit to King County Explorer SAR for most of the planning and operations resources, and to Seattle Fire Department for the bulk of the manpower.
This is not a mission that anyone in the Washington SAR community will soon forget. I just wish we could find him :(
Post by: ctwiggs1 on November 12, 2021, 10:03:30 AM
Just to give an overall sense of this operation:
There have been more than 70 searchers out every day, sometimes as many at 150+ on some days.
Kittitas, Yakima, King, Snohomish, Clark, and Pierce Counties have sent members of their SAR teams, and I'm sure there have been others I just didn't see. Everette, Seattle, Olympic, Chelan, Tacoma, and Central Washington Mountain Rescue teams have been out as well (I would not be surprised if Volcanoes and Inland Mountain Rescue have also sent folks that I just didn't run into. If so, that is the entire state's complement of Mountain Rescue teams).
There have been helicopters from JBLM and various county authorities searching every day as weather allows.
TMobile, Verizon, and AT&T have all set up emergency cell towers in the search area. King County ESAR also deployed mobile radio repeaters.
I can't even count the number of dog teams (both cadaver and live search), ATVs, drones, and other various resources that have been out in the field each day.
Major credit to King County Explorer SAR for most of the planning and operations resources, and to Seattle Fire Department for the bulk of the manpower.
This is not a mission that anyone in the Washington SAR community will soon forget. I just wish we could find him :(
WOW! What an effort! That's great to hear so many are rallying for this poor guy. Hope he's found alive and just lost as heck. Good luck to all of you guys out there today.
Post by: Timberstalker on November 12, 2021, 06:49:21 PM
Best of luck.
Post by: castie2504 on November 13, 2021, 10:41:03 PM
Post by: elksnout on November 13, 2021, 11:22:36 PM
elksnout
Post by: redi on November 13, 2021, 11:25:24 PM
Found safe
Post by: Sandberm on November 14, 2021, 05:25:52 AM
https://www.ifiberone.com/columbia_basin/new-rescuers-employing-bluetooth-technology-in-search-of-missing-seattle-fireman/article_9483b7ec-4416-11ec-930b-0be863e679f1.html (https://www.ifiberone.com/columbia_basin/new-rescuers-employing-bluetooth-technology-in-search-of-missing-seattle-fireman/article_9483b7ec-4416-11ec-930b-0be863e679f1.html)
"ELLENSBURG - According to the Yakima Herald-Republic, search and rescue crews are holding out hope that a personal tech device worn by Seattle Deputy Fire Chief Jay Schreckengost will tell them where he’s at.
The newspaper reports that crews will deploy a drone outfitted with a Bluetooth signal detection device. Kittitas County Sheriff’s officials hope the drone will detect the signal emitted from Scheckengost’s Fitbit. The publication reports that it is the first time that technology has been employed in a search-and-rescue mission.
“We had one of the top rescue drone operators in the country in the room, and a technologist who worked for a major corporation in Bluetooth, and they came up with it on the fly,” Whitsett told the Yakima Herald-Republic..."
Post by: Timberstalker on November 14, 2021, 07:16:28 AM
What I don’t understand is why they haven’t been able to ping his phone?
Post by: ctwiggs1 on November 14, 2021, 07:27:13 AM
Yes, I’m pretty sure they flew it Friday with that drone according to an article I read.
What I don’t understand is why they haven’t been able to ping his phone?
I always have tons of questions in these situations, and I have to answer them myself by saying “they’ve probably addressed this internally and haven’t released all the details to the public.”
This is a great reminder to have a hunting partner.
Post by: storyteller on November 14, 2021, 07:42:06 PM
"Kimberly Ledbetter
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Monday Nov 15th, the search opens up to ALL searchers. Everyone will be welcome to help us search.
Jay was last seen spring creek road Naches, WA on the junction to 553.
The search continues!! "
So I am not sure where someone goes to find out, it was said that the command post was moved, maybe Yakimanoob can fill in some details.
Post by: johnbmyersii on November 14, 2021, 08:16:45 PM
Post by: 85yota on November 14, 2021, 08:19:02 PM
Went to Facebook to see if the public search was real from previous poster and found this.. hope I miss read something but at this point in this weather it seems to real..
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on November 14, 2021, 08:28:10 PM
Post by: Rainier10 on November 14, 2021, 08:38:36 PM
Prayers to the family and friends.
Post by: h20hunter on November 14, 2021, 08:47:19 PM
Post by: jackelope on November 14, 2021, 08:49:27 PM
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on November 14, 2021, 08:53:57 PM
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/seattle-deputy-fire-chief-found-dead-cliffdell-area/P7AL32PTVBDGJBRSTZBJ7PFZTY/ (https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/seattle-deputy-fire-chief-found-dead-cliffdell-area/P7AL32PTVBDGJBRSTZBJ7PFZTY/)
Post by: fishngamereaper on November 14, 2021, 09:00:36 PM
That area he was in is rough country...
I'm glad the family gets closure at least.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on November 14, 2021, 09:04:55 PM
Amazing effort by all involved to help bring closure to the family so they can lay him to rest.
Post by: elkrack on November 14, 2021, 09:05:19 PM
Post by: stickbuck on November 14, 2021, 09:14:23 PM
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Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 14, 2021, 09:17:09 PM
1/2 mile from his truck, crazy.
Post by: h20hunter on November 14, 2021, 09:20:42 PM
Post by: xX Let ER Rip Xx on November 14, 2021, 10:04:46 PM
Rest easy chief………
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on November 14, 2021, 10:11:54 PM
Post by: IFunk on November 14, 2021, 10:48:26 PM
Post by: yakimanoob on November 14, 2021, 10:58:27 PM
I'm grateful the family no longer has to wonder and gets to properly lay him to rest.
May he rest in peace.
Post by: carlyoungs on November 14, 2021, 11:03:10 PM
Post by: Smokepole on November 15, 2021, 05:52:09 AM
Post by: RobinHoodlum on November 15, 2021, 06:38:55 AM
Condolences to the man's family and friends. And, hats off and thumbs up to the LEO, SAR, and other agencies and individuals who organized and conducted the search.
Post by: Ridgerunner on November 15, 2021, 06:39:43 AM
Post by: bigdub257 on November 15, 2021, 07:02:08 AM
RIP Chief. God speed.
Post by: Fatherof5 on November 15, 2021, 08:09:42 AM
Post by: Broomd on November 15, 2021, 09:24:41 AM
Have to wonder how the heck someone is only 1/2 mile from a vehicle and couldn't be found with all of this machination and media attention.
SAR lay it all out there, they are invaluable, but I have to wonder why bloodhounds couldn't find this man sooner,, and if in rugged country at least get scent very near there...it's not surprising that people several miles form a trailhead never get found.
Post by: hunt6226 on November 15, 2021, 09:25:50 AM
He was a neighbor to some of my family.
Really great guy and family.
Prayers for the family….
Post by: yakimanoob on November 15, 2021, 09:40:53 AM
RIP, sad deal for his family.
Have to wonder how the heck someone is only 1/2 mile from a vehicle and couldn't be found with all of this machination and media attention.
SAR lay it all out there, they are invaluable, but I have to wonder why bloodhounds couldn't find this man sooner, and if in rugged country at least get scent very near there...it's not surprising that people several miles form a trailhead never get found.
I imagine more details will be released in the coming days, but I can tell you that given the terrain and off-and-on snow cover in the search area, the 7,000-ish man-hours it took to find him is not at all surprising.
Post by: Sandberm on November 15, 2021, 09:45:41 AM
It helps us understand what is going on and why. I felt like you showed discretion to the feelings of the family, yet provided info to us.
Post by: lewy on November 15, 2021, 09:47:56 AM
RIP, sad deal for his family..
Have to wonder how the heck someone is only 1/2 mile from a vehicle and couldn't be found with all of this machination and media attention.
SAR lay it all out there, they are invaluable, but I have to wonder why bloodhounds couldn't find this man sooner,, and if in rugged country at least get scent very near there...it's not surprising that people several miles form a trailhead never get found.
:yeah:
Bummer deal, Rest In Peace
Post by: powderbounder on November 15, 2021, 10:07:21 AM
Post by: gee_unit360 on November 15, 2021, 12:04:17 PM
Post by: RyanS052 on November 15, 2021, 12:05:03 PM
Heart goes out to the family and specifically the son who was going to meet up with him the next day to hunt. I couldn't imagine the pain he feels right now.
As a son who still hunts with his 76 year old dad and who branches off to hunt farther in the woods, this is always in the back of my mind when I am out walking.
Keep safe everyone who is still out there hunting this year,
Rest easy Chief.
Post by: MoparDoctor on November 15, 2021, 12:32:52 PM
Post by: Bob33 on November 15, 2021, 01:45:44 PM
The 1/2 mile distance does seem a little surprising. By my calculation a 1/2 mile radius area is about 500 acres which for perspective is about the equivalent of 400 football fields.RIP, sad deal for his family.
Have to wonder how the heck someone is only 1/2 mile from a vehicle and couldn't be found with all of this machination and media attention.
SAR lay it all out there, they are invaluable, but I have to wonder why bloodhounds couldn't find this man sooner, and if in rugged country at least get scent very near there...it's not surprising that people several miles form a trailhead never get found.
I imagine more details will be released in the coming days, but I can tell you that given the terrain and off-and-on snow cover in the search area, the 7,000-ish man-hours it took to find him is not at all surprising.
Post by: Wunderlich33 on November 15, 2021, 03:04:15 PM
Post by: zagsfan1 on November 15, 2021, 03:30:47 PM
Post by: follow maggie on November 15, 2021, 03:47:46 PM
Post by: yakimanoob on November 15, 2021, 04:32:04 PM
The 1/2 mile distance does seem a little surprising. By my calculation a 1/2 mile radius area is about 500 acres which for perspective is about the equivalent of 400 football fields.RIP, sad deal for his family.
Have to wonder how the heck someone is only 1/2 mile from a vehicle and couldn't be found with all of this machination and media attention.
SAR lay it all out there, they are invaluable, but I have to wonder why bloodhounds couldn't find this man sooner, and if in rugged country at least get scent very near there...it's not surprising that people several miles form a trailhead never get found.
I imagine more details will be released in the coming days, but I can tell you that given the terrain and off-and-on snow cover in the search area, the 7,000-ish man-hours it took to find him is not at all surprising.
Yep. 486 football fields, to be exact. Plus nearly 2,000' of elevation change within that zone, and you can start to see how difficult it would be to find someone.
Post by: GWP on November 15, 2021, 05:44:16 PM
I hope I go this way. Doing what I love. Every time I go hunting with my dad or an older aquantice I have this thought in the back of my head that I hope I don't have to try and find them after hours if they don't return. I know most people on here have had this thought. I know this isn't the best thread to post this but it is probably what most are thinking. I am glad they found his body and his family has closure. RIP!
It is reality. Particularly hunting with ‘older’ folks. The ‘dying while I do what I love’ sounds great to make us feel better, it is not really the case most of the time.
I had a friend that had a heart attack hunting deer in a remote area. Had a buddy with him. It would have been hours to get back to the truck. Took an agonizing hour, but he passed there on the cold ground. I am pretty sure that is not ‘what he loved’. Just sayin’.
We say these things to make ourselves feel better about it, but it is seldom the reality.
Be as prepared as you can realistically be. But know it CAN happen.
Post by: LDennis24 on November 15, 2021, 05:54:54 PM
Post by: yakimanoob on November 15, 2021, 09:10:48 PM
I hope the family can find a little solace in that. And solace for those still with us is the only thing that matters now.
Post by: TVHunts on November 16, 2021, 03:40:04 AM
Prayers to his family and friends.
Post by: Caseyd on November 19, 2021, 02:39:18 PM
Post by: rainshadow1 on November 19, 2021, 04:30:37 PM
The body of Deputy Fire Chief Jay Schreckengost was transported home to Seattle today by members of the Seattle Fire Department in Fire Department vehicles. A forensic examination of the Chief ordered by the Kittitas County Coroner revealed numerous injuries including a broken wrist and broken spine. The autopsy concluded the cause of the Chief’s death was multiple blunt force trauma. Further investigation in the field led investigators to believe Chief Schreckengost fell down steep hillside or cliff faces more than once before coming to rest where he was found last Sunday.
It’s known that there was snow on the ground when Chief Schreckengost went scouting for Elk on the morning of Tuesday, 11/2—creating slick conditions in that already rugged and dangerous terrain. The location where he was found was near the bottom of a sharp, broken slope about 700 feet in elevation, north-northeast from the end of spur rd 553 off Forest Service Rd 1703 in the Wenatchee-Okanogan National Forest near Cliffdell. It’s believed the Chief slipped or fell down a part of that slope into terrain where he could neither climb back up nor safely descend. Another fall brought him near the bottom of the slope and caused a fatal spinal fracture.
The area where the Chief came to rest was covered in thick brush and could not be safely navigated by searchers without technical climbing equipment and expertise. The team that located him on the afternoon of Sunday, 11/14, included members of Mountain Rescue Teams from Seattle, Tacoma, Everett and the Olympic and Central Mountain Rescue Teams. These teams of skilled and trained volunteers searched miles of cliff bands in the mountainous area near the Chief’s last known location before finally locating him.
The Mountain Rescue Teams and all the Search and Rescue volunteers who participated were part of a monumental effort including and spurred by the passion of Chief Schreckengost’s fellow Seattle Firefighters. The coordination and commitment of everyone who assisted in the search was a fitting tribute to the Chief, and we hope that his final voyage home provides some comfort to all who loved him.
Post by: h20hunter on November 19, 2021, 04:36:33 PM
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Post by: X-Force on November 19, 2021, 06:17:39 PM
May he watch over the other hunters in the area in the future. It sure would be pretty neat to see one of the people who knew him be able to shoot a big billy or bull up there in his honor.
That’s a beautiful spot.
I feel for his family and department.
Post by: yakimanoob on November 19, 2021, 06:41:10 PM
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Post by: Sandberm on November 22, 2021, 09:08:04 AM
I think about guys like him when I see a steep snow covered slope, a small but difficult basalt wall to climb up or down as a short cut...I'm taking the long way around. I often will say to myself out loud..."Nope, not worth it".
I think about that guy who fell off the basalt cliff in Crab Creek about 6-7 years ago in the fog during late archery. Early 50's, very fit. There was another guy in the mid 90's who slipped an fell to his death in the Wallula gap too. As I often find myself in the same terrain those guys were, they are a reminder to me to be mindful, be aware when I'm getting tired and am more prone to making a bad decision that might end badly very quickly.
Post by: Browndawg on December 11, 2021, 10:40:15 AM
I've been reading some of the talk about In-Reach and Spot to help SAR locate lost hikers. Forloh has jackets that have a RECCO chip in them that are basically location beacons. I encourage everyone who likes to go on hikes in the woods to look into it. Expensive gear, but 100% made in USA and high quality.
Post by: yakimanoob on August 08, 2022, 06:47:38 PM
Tragic to say the least. Prayers go out to the family and friends.
I've been reading some of the talk about In-Reach and Spot to help SAR locate lost hikers. Forloh has jackets that have a RECCO chip in them that are basically location beacons. I encourage everyone who likes to go on hikes in the woods to look into it. Expensive gear, but 100% made in USA and high quality.
Sorry to be contrarian, but the RECCO reflectors are not location beacons and have very limited use for wilderness search. They are extremely useful for finding folks buried in avalanches, but are no replacement for a device that actively transmits a signal rather than simply reflecting like the RECCOs do.