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Title: Swakane wildlife area
Post by: Rainier10 on November 28, 2021, 08:09:33 PM
Big changes at the swakane wildlife area this year.

They cleaned up the shooting pit just past the orchard, installed berms and parking area. They posted all kinds of signs about no target shooting in other less used areas and a ton of no unauthorized vehicles beyond this sign where people would drive off road.

Hopefully people use the shooting area and keep the other areas clean. I’m also hopeful people quit driving off road creating hill climbs and causing erosion.

Unfortunately people are not following the e-bike on motorized vehicle roads only.
Title: Re: Swakane wildlife area
Post by: Rainier10 on November 28, 2021, 08:11:04 PM
Entry signage to the wildlife area
Title: Re: Swakane wildlife area
Post by: Rainier10 on November 28, 2021, 08:11:54 PM
Gate at what we call the “hay barn road”
Title: Re: Swakane wildlife area
Post by: Rainier10 on November 28, 2021, 08:13:38 PM
Guys unloaded e-bikes everyday and road right up the road. 90 minutes into your hike a guy on an ebike comes by 15 minutes after he left his truck.
Title: Re: Swakane wildlife area
Post by: Rainier10 on November 28, 2021, 08:15:38 PM
They said “class one” e-bikes aren’t included in the e-bike ban.
Title: Re: Swakane wildlife area
Post by: jstone on November 28, 2021, 09:08:26 PM
That’s why I don’t like them. Gets the lazy back to where you had to work for it.
Title: Re: Swakane wildlife area
Post by: Harbor_hunter on November 28, 2021, 09:42:42 PM
That’s why I don’t like them. Gets the lazy back to where you had to work for it.

Agreed!
Title: Re: Swakane wildlife area
Post by: Rainier10 on November 28, 2021, 09:43:53 PM
Close up of sign and screenshot of the code.
Title: Re: Swakane wildlife area
Post by: Skyvalhunter on November 29, 2021, 05:41:20 AM
Good luck with some enforcement on that
Title: Re: Swakane wildlife area
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 29, 2021, 06:21:58 AM
They said “class one” e-bikes aren’t included in the e-bike ban.

I didn’t know they had different classes.

Class 1: eBikes that are pedal-assist only, with no throttle, and have a maximum assisted speed of 20 mph. Class 2: eBikes that also have a maximum speed of 20 mph, but are throttle-assisted. Class 3: eBikes that are pedal-assist only, with no throttle, and a maximum assisted speed of 28 mph.


https://wsd-pfb-sparkinfluence.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/2020/05/E-Bike-Law-Handouts_WA_2020.pdf
Title: Re: Swakane wildlife area
Post by: vandeman17 on November 29, 2021, 06:38:28 AM
We saw all of that last month when we went up there to shoot before the season. Every turn out had no shooting signs. The new area to shoot is nice but it was filled with people so we left. Be interesting to see how many people actually follow the rules
Title: Re: Swakane wildlife area
Post by: huntnnw on November 29, 2021, 06:44:21 AM
wish those bikes would be considered just like a dirtbike
Title: Re: Swakane wildlife area
Post by: Rainier10 on November 29, 2021, 07:27:22 AM
This is what the WAC code defines the motorized vehicle as

WAC 220-500-020 (17) defines motorized vehicle.

17) "Motorized vehicle," as defined in RCW 46.09.020 and 46.04.320, means a vehicle that derives motive power from an internal combustion engine or is propelled by electric power. For purposes of this chapter, it does not mean motorized wheel chairs used by persons with disabilities.
Title: Re: Swakane wildlife area
Post by: Rainier10 on November 29, 2021, 07:31:00 AM
We saw all of that last month when we went up there to shoot before the season. Every turn out had no shooting signs. The new area to shoot is nice but it was filled with people so we left. Be interesting to see how many people actually follow the rules
every time we go in there people were using the old pit and all of the pull offs that are now marked no target practice.  We only saw people at the range this time so hopefully they continue to just use that area.
Title: Re: Swakane wildlife area
Post by: ThurstonCokid on November 29, 2021, 10:07:00 AM
Gate at what we call the “hay barn road”
This is a fun one on the legs


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Title: Re: Swakane wildlife area
Post by: 85yota on November 29, 2021, 11:21:04 AM
The ebike  debacle really chaps my ass.. 2 years ago about 7 miles behind a gate up hill in the dark 2hrs away i hear a wierd noise and 2 ebikes cruising up hill with miniscule effort..they waved and road by..my dnr calls research etc all seems that there illegal but how would dnr know and who's really checking is what I got out of it, depends on the officer one told me.. every year usage gets worse and worse as bikes get cheaper and better..the amount of ground and ease inwhich they cover  is annoying when I'm trying to follow the rules..its peddle assist its different they always tell me, after trying one I dassagree..
Title: Re: Swakane wildlife area
Post by: Rainier10 on November 29, 2021, 12:02:20 PM
Gate at what we call the “hay barn road”
This is a fun one on the legs


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Yes it is.  Apparently the formal name is "Rattlesnake Road".  Back in the day you could drive that road then somebody found a rare plant or something growing in the road and they shut it down.
Title: Re: Swakane wildlife area
Post by: Rainier10 on November 29, 2021, 12:03:32 PM
Sign at the top gate explaining the closure due to vegetation damage.
Title: Re: Swakane wildlife area
Post by: Rainier10 on November 29, 2021, 12:06:08 PM
The ebike  debacle really chaps my ass.. 2 years ago about 7 miles behind a gate up hill in the dark 2hrs away i hear a wierd noise and 2 ebikes cruising up hill with miniscule effort..they waved and road by..my dnr calls research etc all seems that there illegal but how would dnr know and who's really checking is what I got out of it, depends on the officer one told me.. every year usage gets worse and worse as bikes get cheaper and better..the amount of ground and ease inwhich they cover  is annoying when I'm trying to follow the rules..its peddle assist its different they always tell me, after trying one I dassagree..
My research is teaching me they are in the process of regulating them more.

Enforcing those new regulations will be the issue. I feel like there may be some self enforcement going on at some point.
Title: Re: Swakane wildlife area
Post by: ThurstonCokid on November 29, 2021, 12:15:19 PM
Gate at what we call the “hay barn road”
This is a fun one on the legs


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Yes it is.  Apparently the formal name is "Rattlesnake Road".  Back in the day you could drive that road then somebody found a rare plant or something growing in the road and they shut it down.
Interesting.. thanks for the background


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Title: Re: Swakane wildlife area
Post by: bearhunter99 on November 29, 2021, 02:26:52 PM
When I was a kid I loaded up that hay barn with hay, more times than I want to count.....  My grandfather grew alfalfa in all of those fields on a lease from the game dept.  I think I still have pieces of the seat of that old F-250 lodged somewhere from my grandfather coming down that road in a blizzard.  My great uncle lived in the house up there.  Killed more rattlesnakes in a summer up there than I could even count, mason jars full of rattles that I wish I still had.

The country up there has changed a lot, we hardly saw a soul up there back then, nothing like the pumpkin patch it is now - especially with the puffy jacket and skinny jean crowd running around up there now.
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