Post by: Dhoey07 on December 01, 2021, 08:32:13 AM
Post by: Craig on December 01, 2021, 08:33:04 AM
Post by: bear on December 01, 2021, 08:53:52 AM
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on December 01, 2021, 08:56:29 AM
Post by: fishngamereaper on December 01, 2021, 08:59:58 AM
My top unit's took a while to sell out last year anyway.
Post by: Craig on December 01, 2021, 09:02:04 AM
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Post by: BIGDOG253 on December 01, 2021, 09:03:14 AM
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Post by: HAGEMANIAC on December 01, 2021, 09:08:33 AM
Post by: elkboy on December 01, 2021, 09:10:04 AM
Post by: Bigshooter on December 01, 2021, 09:10:18 AM
Post by: buggy on December 01, 2021, 09:10:57 AM
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Post by: ganghis on December 01, 2021, 09:12:01 AM
Post by: Craig on December 01, 2021, 09:12:12 AM
Post by: X-Force on December 01, 2021, 09:12:43 AM
Post by: Brushbuster on December 01, 2021, 09:14:10 AM
Post by: Heiny on December 01, 2021, 09:15:03 AM
Post by: HAGEMANIAC on December 01, 2021, 09:15:07 AM
Is there a live update anywhere to see how many tags are left in a unit?
I don't think for how many are left, but they do post sell-outs on the waiting page.
Post by: buggy on December 01, 2021, 09:15:23 AM
Is there a live update anywhere to see how many tags are left in a unit?
Its live on Fox news. They have a unit tracker kinda like the presidential elections.... :chuckle:
Actually it just started showing sold out units in the waiting room.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 01, 2021, 09:20:40 AM
Post by: HAGEMANIAC on December 01, 2021, 09:22:02 AM
Only the first 1000 processed and already a couple elk units sold out. Not looking good............
Those units had 33 and 8 tags. Have some faith man!! :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: HAGEMANIAC on December 01, 2021, 09:24:41 AM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 01, 2021, 09:26:12 AM
Only the first 1000 processed and already a couple elk units sold out. Not looking good............
Those units had 33 and 8 tags. Have some faith man!! :chuckle: :chuckle:
Whew thats good to hear !
Post by: avidnwoutdoorsman on December 01, 2021, 09:27:01 AM
What was the solution for party hunting (edit when I say party hunting I mean group hunts)
Post by: theleo on December 01, 2021, 09:27:35 AM
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on December 01, 2021, 09:28:00 AM
6524 = me, buddy 1 = 9XXX, buddy 2 = 17XXX, buddy 3 = 17XXX
What was the solution for party hunting
Solo hunting :chuckle:
Post by: fishngamereaper on December 01, 2021, 09:30:39 AM
:yike:
Post by: elkboy on December 01, 2021, 09:31:15 AM
Post by: elkboy on December 01, 2021, 09:32:13 AM
And here I was thinking that being 5490 was bad...
I'd say you're doing pretty good!
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 01, 2021, 09:32:33 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 01, 2021, 09:34:43 AM
Post by: Dhoey07 on December 01, 2021, 09:35:57 AM
Post by: HAGEMANIAC on December 01, 2021, 09:36:54 AM
What's this all about? I'm lost, as usual.
Idaho non-resident deer and elk tags. It's a mess lol.
Post by: 270Flat on December 01, 2021, 09:37:21 AM
Hopefully my group all gets the unit we want
Post by: Jimmy33 on December 01, 2021, 09:40:02 AM
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Post by: X-Force on December 01, 2021, 09:42:55 AM
What's this all about? I'm lost, as usual.
Idaho non-resident deer and elk tags. It's a mess lol.
It’s worse than a mess. But, for Idaho it’s probably awesome. They get their Christmas bonus…. Tags sold out!
Post by: Sumpnneedskillin on December 01, 2021, 09:49:45 AM
Post by: HAGEMANIAC on December 01, 2021, 09:50:07 AM
Post by: elkboy on December 01, 2021, 09:53:23 AM
Out of these 12,548 people ahead of me, I'm just hoping that 12,543 of them are strictly deer hunters :IBCOOL:
And over here I'm hoping they all have elk on the brain! (Or southern Idaho deer, that's OK too...) :chuckle:
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 01, 2021, 09:56:12 AM
:tup:What's this all about? I'm lost, as usual.
Idaho non-resident deer and elk tags. It's a mess lol.
Post by: LabChamp on December 01, 2021, 09:57:03 AM
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Post by: grundy53 on December 01, 2021, 10:00:03 AM
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Post by: ganghis on December 01, 2021, 10:02:44 AM
Nonresident Elk PIONEER B
Nonresident Elk SMOKY-BENNETT B
Nonresident Regular Deer 21
Nonresident White-tailed Deer 36A
Nonresident Elk BEAR RIVER B
Post by: fishngamereaper on December 01, 2021, 10:04:43 AM
Like opening a hot dog stand at a weight loss convention... someone's guna get hurt...
Won't be long before it goes to draw only.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 01, 2021, 10:08:37 AM
Buddy said 2/3 of elk tags already gone in one of the biggest zones so not looking good.......
Post by: zwickeyman on December 01, 2021, 10:10:46 AM
Can you purchase Deer & Elk at same time or have to go back into virtual waiting room for other tag ?
You can get everything at the same time
Post by: zwickeyman on December 01, 2021, 10:12:41 AM
Got my Pioneer A Tag this year after missing out last year. Hopefully my buddy got his
This whole thing sucks!! though
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 01, 2021, 10:13:42 AM
I was #2706 in the queu
Got my Pioneer A Tag this year after missing out last year. Hopefully my buddy got his
This whole thing sucks!! though
you get a deer tag at same time?
Post by: grundy53 on December 01, 2021, 10:16:27 AM
About 3500 people have made purchases so far, here's what's sold outAdd elk Big desert B and Elk Salmon A to the sold out list
Nonresident Elk PIONEER B
Nonresident Elk SMOKY-BENNETT B
Nonresident Regular Deer 21
Nonresident White-tailed Deer 36A
Nonresident Elk BEAR RIVER B
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Post by: grundy53 on December 01, 2021, 10:18:08 AM
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Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 01, 2021, 10:20:48 AM
The line seems to be moving fairly quick.
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Like 3500/hour quick ????
Post by: grundy53 on December 01, 2021, 10:24:20 AM
They've gone through almost 5,000 in less than an hour and a half.The line seems to be moving fairly quick.
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Like 3500/hour quick ????
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Post by: grundy53 on December 01, 2021, 10:25:20 AM
Elk Diamond creek A and 36A regular deer sold out.About 3500 people have made purchases so far, here's what's sold outAdd elk Big desert B and Elk Salmon A to the sold out list
Nonresident Elk PIONEER B
Nonresident Elk SMOKY-BENNETT B
Nonresident Regular Deer 21
Nonresident White-tailed Deer 36A
Nonresident Elk BEAR RIVER B
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Post by: Sumpnneedskillin on December 01, 2021, 10:27:23 AM
Post by: msg on December 01, 2021, 10:31:04 AM
Post by: goosehunter12 on December 01, 2021, 10:32:39 AM
Post by: theleo on December 01, 2021, 10:37:07 AM
I was #2706 in the queuIf he's further behind than 5490 he didn't. Just got in and it's sold out. Maybe next year for me. :dunno:
Got my Pioneer A Tag this year after missing out last year. Hopefully my buddy got his
This whole thing sucks!! though
Post by: GASoline71 on December 01, 2021, 10:38:08 AM
Non Resident Disabled Vet elk tags are all gone. Was able to get a WT deer tag.
Well crap...
Gary
Post by: WALLEYEGUY on December 01, 2021, 10:39:49 AM
Post by: GASoline71 on December 01, 2021, 10:41:03 AM
:IBCOOL: :IBCOOL: Can not believe I dumb lucked a DAV elk and deer tag 2 years in a row. Think I will stop and get a lotto ticket while I am at it.
That's awesome! Good luck to you this year!
Gary
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 01, 2021, 10:42:43 AM
:IBCOOL: :IBCOOL: Can not believe I dumb lucked a DAV elk and deer tag 2 years in a row. Think I will stop and get a lotto ticket while I am at it.:tup: :tup: :tup: Good to Hear !
Post by: Brushbuster on December 01, 2021, 10:49:34 AM
Post by: X-Force on December 01, 2021, 10:51:03 AM
I may pickup a deer tag later if anything is laying around
Post by: BIGDOG253 on December 01, 2021, 10:52:02 AM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 01, 2021, 10:52:17 AM
Picked up an elk tag. $1000 hurts.
I may pickup a deer tag later if anything is laying around
You couldnt get both at same time ?
Post by: Mtnwalker on December 01, 2021, 10:53:28 AM
Post by: HAGEMANIAC on December 01, 2021, 10:55:49 AM
Post by: BIGDOG253 on December 01, 2021, 10:57:05 AM
Wow, been waiting all morning.. finally said, "it's your turn, you're being re-directed" and then kicked me off immediately and said "session timed out"... awesome. Same crap different year I guess
Did that for me too, you just need to log back in and your in.
Post by: outdooraddict on December 01, 2021, 11:02:31 AM
Post by: HAGEMANIAC on December 01, 2021, 11:05:00 AM
if you dont get a tag, can you apply for a controlled hunt, or do you have to have the tag in order to apply?, i know you have to have a license, in order to apply
Just a license. It is just a little easier to apply with a backup OTC hunt in your pocket, vs paying them $185 for a license and only a small chance to draw a tag.
Post by: avidnwoutdoorsman on December 01, 2021, 11:05:43 AM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 01, 2021, 11:17:10 AM
Post by: dr.derek on December 01, 2021, 11:27:02 AM
What's left....attached below, I was 6524 or something like that. Screenshot quantities of each tag...
thanks
Post by: GASoline71 on December 01, 2021, 11:30:45 AM
Good luck everyone!
Gary
Post by: greenhead_killer on December 01, 2021, 11:33:36 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 01, 2021, 11:44:30 AM
yep just re-enter log in info and it dumps you right in. Did that to me and my daughter both.Wow, been waiting all morning.. finally said, "it's your turn, you're being re-directed" and then kicked me off immediately and said "session timed out"... awesome. Same crap different year I guess
Did that for me too, you just need to log back in and your in.
Post by: grundy53 on December 01, 2021, 11:46:42 AM
Yup. Did it to me while getting my dad's tag and his buddies both.yep just re-enter log in info and it dumps you right in. Did that to me and my daughter both.Wow, been waiting all morning.. finally said, "it's your turn, you're being re-directed" and then kicked me off immediately and said "session timed out"... awesome. Same crap different year I guess
Did that for me too, you just need to log back in and your in.
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Post by: Dhoey07 on December 01, 2021, 12:08:04 PM
Post by: Rainier10 on December 01, 2021, 12:17:02 PM
3 minutes. Let's see whats leftYou're almost there. good luck.
Post by: Dhoey07 on December 01, 2021, 12:19:54 PM
Post by: SpicyTacos on December 01, 2021, 12:43:01 PM
Then it went blank. I'm now in the 25000
Post by: mburrows on December 01, 2021, 12:44:31 PM
Post by: ganghis on December 01, 2021, 12:44:58 PM
Post by: GASoline71 on December 01, 2021, 12:48:28 PM
I was at 5000 waited for only an hour. I was queued to go to webpage.
Then it went blank. I'm now in the 25000
Did the same to us, but We just logged back in and it sent us right to the purchase page.
Gary
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 01, 2021, 01:02:47 PM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 01, 2021, 01:04:02 PM
I was at 5000 waited for only an hour. I was queued to go to webpage.
Then it went blank. I'm now in the 25000
Gotta log back in from same phone/browser. Think they use cookies to tell its you logging back in.
Post by: Naches Sportsman on December 01, 2021, 01:07:12 PM
Panhandle and LoLo and Weiser still have lots of tags.......
No suprise about Lolo. I don’t think there’s an elk left in that unit. Best not to get that tag if anyone is desperate….
Post by: SpicyTacos on December 01, 2021, 01:12:41 PM
I was at 5000 waited for only an hour. I was queued to go to webpage.
Then it went blank. I'm now in the 25000
Gotta log back in from same phone/browser. Think they use cookies to tell its you logging back in.
Darn. I did not want leave the page and I did not even think of re login.
Well now I know
Post by: GASoline71 on December 01, 2021, 01:14:49 PM
Panhandle and LoLo and Weiser still have lots of tags.......
No suprise about Lolo. I don’t think there’s an elk left in that unit. Best not to get that tag if anyone is desperate….
I hunted Lolo back in 2018 and had a screaming match with a very large bull. We just couldn't get him to come in through the brush for a shot. Estimated he hung up at about 200 yards. There's elk there. But they're buried deep. :)
Gary
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Post by: elkboy on December 01, 2021, 02:14:54 PM
Post by: bracer40 on December 01, 2021, 03:12:00 PM
Told him we’ll be headed to Colorado (I’ll do Idaho solo if he can’t come as cameraman). It’s a shame as this will be his first year behind the bow.
We’ll make the most of it regardless.
Post by: TriggerMike on December 01, 2021, 03:20:40 PM
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Post by: Bigshooter on December 01, 2021, 03:35:17 PM
Did the site crash?Something is going on.
Post by: outdooraddict on December 01, 2021, 03:36:24 PM
Did the site crash?
Post by: TriggerMike on December 01, 2021, 03:37:23 PM
Post by: Taco280AI on December 01, 2021, 03:38:46 PM
Post by: outdooraddict on December 01, 2021, 03:41:19 PM
After 5 hours I got in, then the whole thing messed up for about 20 minutes, now there's 8000 people in front of me.
Post by: huntnnw on December 01, 2021, 03:41:43 PM
Post by: xX Let ER Rip Xx on December 01, 2021, 03:43:49 PM
Post by: grundy53 on December 01, 2021, 03:51:26 PM
Needs to be a draw. Pretty stupid systemAgreed
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Post by: KFhunter on December 01, 2021, 03:56:40 PM
Post by: fishngamereaper on December 01, 2021, 04:04:34 PM
Post by: Taco280AI on December 01, 2021, 04:35:31 PM
Post by: SpicyTacos on December 01, 2021, 04:38:55 PM
I settled on two whitetail tags in the Panhandle.
Post by: KFhunter on December 01, 2021, 04:42:55 PM
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on December 01, 2021, 04:47:53 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 01, 2021, 04:49:03 PM
Damn after getting kicked twice and not knowing what to do. The elk unit I wanted was sold out.you bought two tags?
I settled on two whitetail tags in the Panhandle.
Post by: Airohunter on December 01, 2021, 04:49:41 PM
Post by: KFhunter on December 01, 2021, 04:49:42 PM
Post by: bear on December 01, 2021, 04:52:20 PM
Post by: SpicyTacos on December 01, 2021, 05:01:21 PM
Damn after getting kicked twice and not knowing what to do. The elk unit I wanted was sold out.you bought two tags?
I settled on two whitetail tags in the Panhandle.
One for the kiddo. First time to the panhandle.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 01, 2021, 05:06:33 PM
ah gotcha! I was ready to dive in for seconds there for a sec :chuckle:Damn after getting kicked twice and not knowing what to do. The elk unit I wanted was sold out.you bought two tags?
I settled on two whitetail tags in the Panhandle.
One for the kiddo. First time to the panhandle.
Post by: outdooraddict on December 01, 2021, 05:08:08 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on December 01, 2021, 05:11:42 PM
Post by: hughjorgan on December 01, 2021, 05:22:01 PM
Post by: grundy53 on December 01, 2021, 05:22:55 PM
You need 3 devices, with 3 different IP addresses :chuckle:Yup. Only had 2. Lol
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Post by: grundy53 on December 01, 2021, 05:26:07 PM
Didn't get the Elk tag I wanted so what the hell, might as well chase Deer. It's a ridiculous system but honestly still better than a draw I think? it would be really tough if you had a few buddies and were trying to go in as a group.It's basically already an unorganized draw. You login before 9 am and are assigned a random number. I would rather just have an organized draw. Less stress and won't interfere with work.
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Post by: mp.hunter on December 01, 2021, 05:32:54 PM
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Post by: bracer40 on December 01, 2021, 05:42:25 PM
Post by: outdooraddict on December 01, 2021, 05:44:50 PM
Post by: Bigshooter on December 01, 2021, 05:47:45 PM
Post by: hughjorgan on December 01, 2021, 05:50:24 PM
this system is total crap. yea im complaining cause I didn't get my way. but im going to do it anyways. I was logged in at 1030 with 26000th place and every hr was checking at 230 I had 5000 people in front of me, and over an hr wait, 30 minutes later I logged in and the site wouldn't load, finally got in and I got kicked out and had 8000 people in front of me. finally got in and all unit 6 deer are gone. I would much rather have a draw and an equal chance of getting a tag. not my fault I was at work trying to earn a living and couldn't log in earlier. am I really going to have to burn a PTO day DEC 1 just to hunt 10 months later. total joke of a system. rant over good luck to all that got tags. my only hope now is to draw a controlled hunt. "so your saying there is a chance"
Most the panhandle deer tags were getting low at 1:30
Post by: vandeman17 on December 01, 2021, 05:58:46 PM
Didn't get the Elk tag I wanted so what the hell, might as well chase Deer. It's a ridiculous system but honestly still better than a draw I think? it would be really tough if you had a few buddies and were trying to go in as a group.It's basically already an unorganized draw. You login before 9 am and are assigned a random number. I would rather just have an organized draw. Less stress and won't interfere with work.
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This is exactly what I told someone earlier today
Post by: Kurt_S on December 01, 2021, 06:06:42 PM
Dad and brothers got screwed. Sold out by the time they got in.
At least in a draw we can apply as a group
Post by: actionshooter on December 01, 2021, 06:18:39 PM
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on December 01, 2021, 06:23:14 PM
Post by: fishngamereaper on December 01, 2021, 06:28:33 PM
Earlier today I was like 12k in line but didn't stick around to wait it out...
The random number assignments are jacked up.
Post by: Wolfdog2314 on December 01, 2021, 06:33:38 PM
Post by: builtfordtough on December 01, 2021, 06:35:40 PM
Post by: teanawayslayer on December 01, 2021, 06:37:02 PM
I logged in a few ago and it gave me a 40k number and said the wait could be a couple hours then it just let me in...I got the deer tag I wanted. I was 5788 when I logged in at 8:30. A buddy logged in 1 minute later and was at 8800. I don’t think it’s a random number. It’s in order when you show up.
Earlier today I was like 12k in line but didn't stick around to wait it out...
The random number assignments are jacked up.
Post by: KFhunter on December 01, 2021, 06:44:56 PM
Post by: Nate Ortloff on December 01, 2021, 06:57:19 PM
Post by: duckboy23 on December 01, 2021, 07:05:24 PM
Post by: goosehunter12 on December 01, 2021, 07:32:38 PM
We got to remember we are non-residents, from the states prospective this gets all the tags sold! I kinda like the system, let’s me know early and I can then plan other hunts around it.
If it went draw, won’t know till end of June, if drawn one year wait then. Just my 2 cents
Post by: greenhead_killer on December 01, 2021, 07:57:49 PM
Post by: ridgefire on December 01, 2021, 07:58:28 PM
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Post by: actionshooter on December 01, 2021, 08:31:18 PM
Post by: jstone on December 01, 2021, 08:31:33 PM
Post by: KFhunter on December 01, 2021, 08:32:16 PM
Post by: jstone on December 01, 2021, 08:34:49 PM
Post by: kentrek on December 01, 2021, 08:39:23 PM
This system manipulates hunters with artificial demand and destroys the comradery of hunting in groups...its laughable they still call it OTC...non residents lost alot and seems some don't even realize it.
Advantages to every system but I wish they wouldn't have been so sleezy with this one
Post by: jowings22 on December 01, 2021, 08:53:56 PM
Post by: fishngamereaper on December 01, 2021, 09:14:03 PM
And head's up ...elk tags state wide are almost completely gone... except selway :chuckle:
Deer tags are shrinking...this will be an all time record sales..
Man..I remember the good ole days when you could get extra deer tags in August...and didn't have to buy elk until June
Post by: cem3434 on December 01, 2021, 09:22:57 PM
Post by: actionshooter on December 01, 2021, 09:28:46 PM
I just logged back in for kicks and got right in...The good old days where when you could buy a tag during season after you filled your first.. :)
And head's up ...elk tags state wide are almost completely gone... except selway :chuckle:
Deer tags are shrinking...this will be an all time record sales..
Man..I remember the good ole days when you could get extra deer tags in August...and didn't have to buy elk until June
Post by: fishngamereaper on December 01, 2021, 09:41:21 PM
I just logged back in for kicks and got right in...The good old days where when you could buy a tag during season after you filled your first.. :)
And head's up ...elk tags state wide are almost completely gone... except selway :chuckle:
Deer tags are shrinking...this will be an all time record sales..
Man..I remember the good ole days when you could get extra deer tags in August...and didn't have to buy elk until June
:tup:
Yup
Post by: leonpeon2 on December 01, 2021, 10:06:53 PM
Post by: bornhunter on December 01, 2021, 10:08:09 PM
Post by: KFhunter on December 01, 2021, 10:14:30 PM
Got on first thing. Got number 2375 ish. 22 min wait. Got my deer tag. Buddy didn’t get his so I logged back in under his name. Waited 3 hours got his deer tag. Only to find out I got myself the wrong deer tag. I needed a whitetail tag for unit one when I got a reg deer tag for unit one. Now comes the search to find someone who needs to trade! We’re putting in for a controlled unit so it might not matter.
I seen that with the regular deer tag vs the white tail deer tag
What's the difference between the two?
Post by: ganghis on December 01, 2021, 10:18:43 PM
Got on first thing. Got number 2375 ish. 22 min wait. Got my deer tag. Buddy didn’t get his so I logged back in under his name. Waited 3 hours got his deer tag. Only to find out I got myself the wrong deer tag. I needed a whitetail tag for unit one when I got a reg deer tag for unit one. Now comes the search to find someone who needs to trade! We’re putting in for a controlled unit so it might not matter.
I'm confused - I got a reg deer tag for unit one, but it's good for whitetail and mule deer, right? The general whitetail tag opens up other northern units, but my thought was the reg deer would give better controlled draw options. So what's the issue?
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 01, 2021, 10:23:40 PM
Whew!
Post by: Mossy on December 01, 2021, 10:32:23 PM
Got in way to late. Didnt IDFG post last year when it opened up to sign on?
I got my email reminder November 20th this year.
Post by: dreamingbig on December 01, 2021, 10:50:14 PM
Got the A tag I wanted after about an hour wait this morning. Unfortunately, my son wasn’t able to log on so sat on hold on the phone for over 4 hours til the call dropped. Eventually tag sold out...same tag was still available for several days last year if my memory serves me right.I think you can transfer the tag to him if it helps.
Told him we’ll be headed to Colorado (I’ll do Idaho solo if he can’t come as cameraman). It’s a shame as this will be his first year behind the bow.
We’ll make the most of it regardless.
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Post by: X-Force on December 02, 2021, 01:28:04 AM
I was in the mid 5000’s and our first and third options were to low to risk purchasing them.
Post by: big wood on December 02, 2021, 06:39:11 AM
Post by: bigfish51 on December 02, 2021, 07:00:10 AM
Keep in mind that Idaho has another free for all at the beginning of August when all of the turned back tags go back on sale and anybody (residents and non-residents) can buy them. This year there were over 10,000 tags available to be purchased. Sucks to wait that long to figure out your fall hunts, but there's still a chance that you can get a tag.
Post by: bracer40 on December 02, 2021, 07:07:17 AM
Thanks for the tip! Hadn’t thought of that!Got the A tag I wanted after about an hour wait this morning. Unfortunately, my son wasn’t able to log on so sat on hold on the phone for over 4 hours til the call dropped. Eventually tag sold out...same tag was still available for several days last year if my memory serves me right.I think you can transfer the tag to him if it helps.
Told him we’ll be headed to Colorado (I’ll do Idaho solo if he can’t come as cameraman). It’s a shame as this will be his first year behind the bow.
We’ll make the most of it regardless.
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Post by: leonpeon2 on December 02, 2021, 07:15:03 AM
Got on first thing. Got number 2375 ish. 22 min wait. Got my deer tag. Buddy didn’t get his so I logged back in under his name. Waited 3 hours got his deer tag. Only to find out I got myself the wrong deer tag. I needed a whitetail tag for unit one when I got a reg deer tag for unit one. Now comes the search to find someone who needs to trade! We’re putting in for a controlled unit so it might not matter.
I seen that with the regular deer tag vs the white tail deer tag
What's the difference between the two?
The difference between the two is the times of the hunt. Whitetail opens nov 10 and the regular deer opens mid nov. Don’t quote me on those dates.
Post by: Pathfinder101 on December 02, 2021, 07:30:19 AM
Next year, I will not plan to be teaching at 9am...
Post by: bornhunter on December 02, 2021, 07:33:36 AM
That figures. I must have missed it. I have a reminder on next years calendar already. Thanks.Got in way to late. Didnt IDFG post last year when it opened up to sign on?
I got my email reminder November 20th this year.
Post by: meatwhack on December 02, 2021, 08:28:36 AM
Got on first thing. Got number 2375 ish. 22 min wait. Got my deer tag. Buddy didn’t get his so I logged back in under his name. Waited 3 hours got his deer tag. Only to find out I got myself the wrong deer tag. I needed a whitetail tag for unit one when I got a reg deer tag for unit one. Now comes the search to find someone who needs to trade! We’re putting in for a controlled unit so it might not matter.
I seen that with the regular deer tag vs the white tail deer tag
What's the difference between the two?
The difference between the two is the times of the hunt. Whitetail opens nov 10 and the regular deer opens mid nov. Don’t quote me on those dates.
If you’re planning on hunting whitetails in unit 1 there is no difference between the general tag and whitetail tag as far as season dates go.
Post by: duckman18 on December 02, 2021, 09:54:12 AM
Over 30 years going every year. Now 2 years in a row, no dice. I was in the Q at 8:27 and number 6131. Curious as to what time people got in the Q and what number they were issued. They say they are randomly givenI got in the q at 8:35 and got #100
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 02, 2021, 10:16:14 AM
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Post by: dreamingbig on December 02, 2021, 01:00:06 PM
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Post by: jjhunter on December 02, 2021, 01:03:54 PM
Grabbed a tag. Not my first choice but it was really a toss-up between 3 units.
Post by: WSU on December 02, 2021, 01:10:54 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 02, 2021, 01:15:59 PM
It didn’t matter when you logged in. It was legitimately random.most of us know that but some are questioning the legitimacy of how random. Thats why I posted my placement and login time. It was very much random and on the up and up :twocents:
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Post by: vandeman17 on December 02, 2021, 01:27:38 PM
It didn’t matter when you logged in. It was legitimately random.most of us know that but some are questioning the legitimacy of how random. Thats why I posted my placement and login time. It was very much random and on the up and up :twocents:
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Would you prefer it done this way in the future? In my mind, it could be done a lot cleaner and with less headache if it went to a draw but I don't have any skin in the game since I don't hunt Idaho. More just curious after back to back years of what sounds like a chit show.
Post by: dreamingbig on December 02, 2021, 01:31:43 PM
I knew you were. I was pushing back on those questioning. I had a buddy get below 500 while I was 16k higher. He got the tag. I got to watch. We were both logged in as soon as they let you.It didn’t matter when you logged in. It was legitimately random.most of us know that but some are questioning the legitimacy of how random. Thats why I posted my placement and login time. It was very much random and on the up and up :twocents:
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As to future… I hear they are changing to accommodate group apps. They will charge a fee most likely (draws cost money to run) but you would get to be all or none with your group. No points being suggested…. I hope they keep it with no points. Points don’t help anything but revenue.
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Post by: WSU on December 02, 2021, 01:47:27 PM
Post by: HUNT JR on December 02, 2021, 01:56:31 PM
Post by: vandeman17 on December 02, 2021, 02:04:13 PM
Post by: fishngamereaper on December 02, 2021, 02:18:30 PM
Make pool groups for every 5 year's.
30 plus group gets day one.
25-29 day two
And so on...
Bunch of first timers clogging up the system...
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 02, 2021, 02:23:59 PM
I'm not the guy to ask. I plan every hunt as if I was going solo. If people join then great, so the group thing is irrelevant. Ive also dabbled in 20 or so units in idaho and love exploring new places so if what I want is sold out I'll just pick another. Last year as well as this year weren't stressful at all. Even sitting up around 10k I knew I was gonna get a deer tag somewhere. TONS of good tags to be purchased right at this very second if a guy truly wants to go hunt.It didn’t matter when you logged in. It was legitimately random.most of us know that but some are questioning the legitimacy of how random. Thats why I posted my placement and login time. It was very much random and on the up and up :twocents:
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Would you prefer it done this way in the future? In my mind, it could be done a lot cleaner and with less headache if it went to a draw but I don't have any skin in the game since I don't hunt Idaho. More just curious after back to back years of what sounds like a chit show.
At the end of the day ID doesn't guarantee us a tag or owe us a tag. Their only concerns are selling all NR tags to fund their department. Tweek the sale a bit to lighten the burden on the server but hell no to a draw imo.
One small and easy thing that could be done is to break up the sale dates. Everything on Dec 1 is crazy. Let NR deer go on sale Dec 1. Then Dec 2 sell NR elk. Then Dec 3 let residents in to do whatever it is residents do on the first day they can buy stuff.
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Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 02, 2021, 02:31:47 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 02, 2021, 02:32:31 PM
I’ll be a resident sooner than later so it won’t really matter anyways…take me with you :chuckle:
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Post by: WALLEYEGUY on December 02, 2021, 02:37:01 PM
Little bit of sweat and persistence and tags can always be had. Last year I got a deer tag on Dec 1, then tried like hell every return tag sale and finally snagged an elk tag I was interested in during the July sale. Then aug I snagged a second deer tag. I trained to get tags in idahos system. All auto fill data was inputted. I made dozens of dry runs through the system from log in steps, where things were located on the main page, to checkout steps. I could go through the whole process of buying a tag in under a minute as long as the website somewhat behaved.. Like ammo, gone are the days of casually getting things. A guy can sit around and sulk or he can make something a priority and take the steps to make that priority come to fruition :twocents:
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Post by: Bigshooter on December 02, 2021, 02:40:31 PM
Little bit of sweat and persistence and tags can always be had. Last year I got a deer tag on Dec 1, then tried like hell every return tag sale and finally snagged an elk tag I was interested in during the July sale. Then aug I snagged a second deer tag. I trained to get tags in idahos system. All auto fill data was inputted. I made dozens of dry runs through the system from log in steps, where things were located on the main page, to checkout steps. I could go through the whole process of buying a tag in under a minute as long as the website somewhat behaved.. Like ammo, gone are the days of casually getting things. A guy can sit around and sulk or he can make something a priority and take the steps to make that priority come to fruition :twocents:
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If anyone else would have posted this I would have said BS. But i don't doubt you for a second.
Post by: vandeman17 on December 02, 2021, 02:40:50 PM
I'm not the guy to ask. I plan every hunt as if I was going solo. If people join then great, so the group thing is irrelevant. Ive also dabbled in 20 or so units in idaho and love exploring new places so if what I want is sold out I'll just pick another. Last year as well as this year weren't stressful at all. Even sitting up around 10k I knew I was gonna get a deer tag somewhere. TONS of good tags to be purchased right at this very second if a guy truly wants to go hunt.It didn’t matter when you logged in. It was legitimately random.most of us know that but some are questioning the legitimacy of how random. Thats why I posted my placement and login time. It was very much random and on the up and up :twocents:
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Would you prefer it done this way in the future? In my mind, it could be done a lot cleaner and with less headache if it went to a draw but I don't have any skin in the game since I don't hunt Idaho. More just curious after back to back years of what sounds like a chit show.
At the end of the day ID doesn't guarantee us a tag or owe us a tag. Their only concerns are selling all NR tags to fund their department. Tweek the sale a bit to lighten the burden on the server but hell no to a draw imo.
One small and easy thing that could be done is to break up the sale dates. Everything on Dec 1 is crazy. Let NR deer go on sale Dec 1. Then Dec 2 sell NR elk. Then Dec 3 let residents in to do whatever it is residents do on the first day they can buy stuff.
I guess what I was getting at, again I have no skin in the game, is a way to diminish the madness of trying to get everyone to buy in one day. Some way to spread the purchases out over at least a few days so that people don't get booted when checking out etc.
Post by: Jimmy33 on December 02, 2021, 02:52:45 PM
Little bit of sweat and persistence and tags can always be had. Last year I got a deer tag on Dec 1, then tried like hell every return tag sale and finally snagged an elk tag I was interested in during the July sale. Then aug I snagged a second deer tag. I trained to get tags in idahos system. All auto fill data was inputted. I made dozens of dry runs through the system from log in steps, where things were located on the main page, to checkout steps. I could go through the whole process of buying a tag in under a minute as long as the website somewhat behaved.. Like ammo, gone are the days of casually getting things. A guy can sit around and sulk or he can make something a priority and take the steps to make that priority come to fruition :twocents:And like I said…You had an opportunity to get tags and have a fun hunt in the end. With a draw, you either get it or you dont. I got number 18500 and did not get my top 2 choices but I will still shoot a buck next year…better than seeing not selected.
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Post by: Taco280AI on December 02, 2021, 03:03:07 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 02, 2021, 03:08:56 PM
Without going to a draw there's certainly a better way to do it. I got kicked out twice when it was my turn. Tried to get back in and continue, but it kicked me all the way out and to the back of the line both times. :dunno:I think that is something everyone can agree on.
Post by: kentrek on December 02, 2021, 03:11:44 PM
I'm not the guy to ask. I plan every hunt as if I was going solo. If people join then great, so the group thing is irrelevant. Ive also dabbled in 20 or so units in idaho and love exploring new places so if what I want is sold out I'll just pick another. Last year as well as this year weren't stressful at all. Even sitting up around 10k I knew I was gonna get a deer tag somewhere. TONS of good tags to be purchased right at this very second if a guy truly wants to go hunt.It didn’t matter when you logged in. It was legitimately random.most of us know that but some are questioning the legitimacy of how random. Thats why I posted my placement and login time. It was very much random and on the up and up :twocents:
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Would you prefer it done this way in the future? In my mind, it could be done a lot cleaner and with less headache if it went to a draw but I don't have any skin in the game since I don't hunt Idaho. More just curious after back to back years of what sounds like a chit show.
At the end of the day ID doesn't guarantee us a tag or owe us a tag. Their only concerns are selling all NR tags to fund their department. Tweek the sale a bit to lighten the burden on the server but hell no to a draw imo.
One small and easy thing that could be done is to break up the sale dates. Everything on Dec 1 is crazy. Let NR deer go on sale Dec 1. Then Dec 2 sell NR elk. Then Dec 3 let residents in to do whatever it is residents do on the first day they can buy stuff.
I guess what I was getting at, again I have no skin in the game, is a way to diminish the madness of trying to get everyone to buy in one day. Some way to spread the purchases out over at least a few days so that people don't get booted when checking out etc.
Splitting the deer and elk would go along ways I believe...also beings it's essentially a free lottery I'm sure there is a decent amount of people that are only hoping for a low number to draw a hyped tag.. maybe put alil skin in the game just to participate :dunno: do those top tags a different day ?
No reason they can't take abit of the anxiety out and still make money
This year was better done then last year so hopefully 2023 sales go even better
Post by: vandeman17 on December 02, 2021, 04:12:27 PM
Without going to a draw there's certainly a better way to do it. I got kicked out twice when it was my turn. Tried to get back in and continue, but it kicked me all the way out and to the back of the line both times. :dunno:
This was the basis of my question and wondering ways to improve it without a draw
Post by: hughjorgan on December 02, 2021, 04:18:57 PM
Without going to a draw there's certainly a better way to do it. I got kicked out twice when it was my turn. Tried to get back in and continue, but it kicked me all the way out and to the back of the line both times. :dunno:
This was the basis of my question and wondering ways to improve it without a draw
I am curious how you guys that get booted we’re buying your tags? On your smart phone through their website? Idaho’s phone app? Computer and web browser?
From my experience yesterday the app for my phone worked fine. Using their website sucked though.
Post by: Seabass on December 02, 2021, 04:28:21 PM
Post by: hughjorgan on December 02, 2021, 04:43:45 PM
Post by: Taco280AI on December 02, 2021, 04:48:34 PM
Without going to a draw there's certainly a better way to do it. I got kicked out twice when it was my turn. Tried to get back in and continue, but it kicked me all the way out and to the back of the line both times. :dunno:
This was the basis of my question and wondering ways to improve it without a draw
I am curious how you guys that get booted we’re buying your tags? On your smart phone through their website? Idaho’s phone app? Computer and web browser?
From my experience yesterday the app for my phone worked fine. Using their website sucked though.
On both my phone and iPad at different times seeing if the other would work.
Post by: hughjorgan on December 02, 2021, 04:49:48 PM
Did you use the app when on your phone?Without going to a draw there's certainly a better way to do it. I got kicked out twice when it was my turn. Tried to get back in and continue, but it kicked me all the way out and to the back of the line both times. :dunno:
This was the basis of my question and wondering ways to improve it without a draw
I am curious how you guys that get booted we’re buying your tags? On your smart phone through their website? Idaho’s phone app? Computer and web browser?
From my experience yesterday the app for my phone worked fine. Using their website sucked though.
On both my phone and iPad at different times seeing if the other would work.
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Post by: fowl smacker on December 02, 2021, 04:57:49 PM
Post by: hughjorgan on December 02, 2021, 05:01:24 PM
I went through their website on my phone. It tells you after your time is up in the waiting room that you will be sent to the home page and have to log back in. No big deal, just like last year.That’s how my buddy did it but it would kick him out after he had everything in his cart and wouldn’t let him finalize his transaction. I ended up having to do it on my laptop for him. Their website was really clunky.
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Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 02, 2021, 05:03:23 PM
Post by: jstone on December 02, 2021, 05:14:41 PM
Good Luck
Post by: meatwhack on December 02, 2021, 08:04:05 PM
Post by: cem3434 on December 02, 2021, 08:05:59 PM
I’d bet they’ll be changing to something different within the next couple years.
Pretty sure they went up again this year. Will probably go up again next year.
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on December 02, 2021, 08:27:22 PM
I tend to be with Karl and generally roll solo for most deer, the tags I have hunted and hunts i want to do are not the most popular so if someone wants to join they have very good odds of getting tags. I think i only switched units one time early on, so didnt really miss that this year, it seems like the switch to pick a unit and the quotas in those units are at least grounded in some science.
Elk is a different story. Aside from the tweaks to the system itself ( i dont mind it to much other than cluttering time, and would be nice to have some sort of partner/group option if a good solution could be found)..... my heartburn is the huge slashes to all the healthy units, and the units below objective are where the leftovers are. It seems like a hard turn from science based to money based management.
Post by: cem3434 on December 02, 2021, 09:01:32 PM
Post by: Seabass on December 02, 2021, 09:11:41 PM
There were some elk tags available this morning…
Copy. I have only lived in ID fora few months. I haven’t even begun on starting to figure out how it all works. I have a WA buddy who wanted to hunt deer with me next year. Sounds like he missed the boat.
Post by: cem3434 on December 02, 2021, 09:23:30 PM
Post by: Seabass on December 02, 2021, 09:29:40 PM
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on December 02, 2021, 09:52:58 PM
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Post by: bearpaw on December 04, 2021, 03:37:49 AM
I applaud IDFG for trying to keep tags over the counter rather than going to a draw for all non-residents.
For anyone over 50 or 60 who just gets interested in non-resident hunting, you have little or no chance of ever drawing a decent tag that currently requires 15 points or more in some states, by the time you have that 15 points due to point creep you will need 30 points to draw!
Think about that a little before you wish for that in Idaho! :twocents:
Post by: vandeman17 on December 04, 2021, 03:47:57 AM
From what I understand IDFG has to use a waiting room or all the online activity would crash the servers. The problem is that there are probably 40k nonresidents now wanting to buy tags on day one, this is the same reason Idaho had to limit non-residents to one unit, too many non-residents were showing up in certain popular units and it was getting worse every year.
I applaud IDFG for trying to keep tags over the counter rather than going to a draw for all non-residents.
For anyone over 50 or 60 who just gets interested in non-resident hunting, you have little or no chance of ever drawing a decent tag that currently requires 15 points or more in some states, by the time you have that 15 points due to point creep you will need 30 points to draw!
Think about that a little before you wish for that in Idaho! :twocents:
If they did go to a draw down the road, I would hope there would be no points and it would be purely random. Points have ruined every state that uses them
Post by: KFhunter on December 04, 2021, 05:18:05 AM
Post by: grundy53 on December 04, 2021, 05:27:37 AM
From what I understand IDFG has to use a waiting room or all the online activity would crash the servers. The problem is that there are probably 40k nonresidents now wanting to buy tags on day one, this is the same reason Idaho had to limit non-residents to one unit, too many non-residents were showing up in certain popular units and it was getting worse every year.I would hope they would stick with no points like their controlled drawing. I figure it would be more like drawing a Utah general season tag. Or a Montana general season tag.
I applaud IDFG for trying to keep tags over the counter rather than going to a draw for all non-residents.
For anyone over 50 or 60 who just gets interested in non-resident hunting, you have little or no chance of ever drawing a decent tag that currently requires 15 points or more in some states, by the time you have that 15 points due to point creep you will need 30 points to draw!
Think about that a little before you wish for that in Idaho! :twocents:
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Post by: fishngamereaper on December 04, 2021, 06:50:41 AM
If a guy wants to hunt Idaho as of this morning there are still good opportunities for deer and elk...so the system isn't completely broken. It just needs some tweaking...like staggering days for elk, deer, etc...I don't buy an elk tag every year so logging in and waiting with 10k guys trying to buy sawtooth tags when all's I want is deer is a little lame.. :chuckle:
Post by: The scout on December 04, 2021, 06:56:23 AM
Post by: bearpaw on December 04, 2021, 08:03:20 AM
From what I understand IDFG has to use a waiting room or all the online activity would crash the servers. The problem is that there are probably 40k nonresidents now wanting to buy tags on day one, this is the same reason Idaho had to limit non-residents to one unit, too many non-residents were showing up in certain popular units and it was getting worse every year.I would hope they would stick with no points like their controlled drawing. I figure it would be more like drawing a Utah general season tag. Or a Montana general season tag.
I applaud IDFG for trying to keep tags over the counter rather than going to a draw for all non-residents.
For anyone over 50 or 60 who just gets interested in non-resident hunting, you have little or no chance of ever drawing a decent tag that currently requires 15 points or more in some states, by the time you have that 15 points due to point creep you will need 30 points to draw!
Think about that a little before you wish for that in Idaho! :twocents:
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If and when they go to a draw I hope so too! :tup:
I agree with others that there could be some tweeking done to improve the system greatly, one thing I would like to see is that when one guy finally gets in to buy tags, he can purchase for his group, the current system is breaking apart a lot of groups that normally hunt together. I hope we will see improvements over time.
Post by: Mtnwalker on December 04, 2021, 08:12:07 AM
From what I understand IDFG has to use a waiting room or all the online activity would crash the servers. The problem is that there are probably 40k nonresidents now wanting to buy tags on day one, this is the same reason Idaho had to limit non-residents to one unit, too many non-residents were showing up in certain popular units and it was getting worse every year.I would hope they would stick with no points like their controlled drawing. I figure it would be more like drawing a Utah general season tag. Or a Montana general season tag.
I applaud IDFG for trying to keep tags over the counter rather than going to a draw for all non-residents.
For anyone over 50 or 60 who just gets interested in non-resident hunting, you have little or no chance of ever drawing a decent tag that currently requires 15 points or more in some states, by the time you have that 15 points due to point creep you will need 30 points to draw!
Think about that a little before you wish for that in Idaho! :twocents:
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If and when they go to a draw I hope so too! :tup:
I agree with others that there could be some tweeking done to improve the system greatly, one thing I would like to see is that when one guy finally gets in to buy tags, he can purchase for his group, the current system is breaking apart a lot of groups that normally hunt together. I hope we will see improvements over time.
:yeah: It would be pretty simple to allow groups to sign up ahead of time and get in together under 1 randomized number. I don’t like the idea of each guy in a group being able to buy for his whole group as that would favor the groups over the individuals.
Post by: meatwhack on December 04, 2021, 08:27:25 AM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 04, 2021, 08:58:16 AM
Post by: kselkhunter on December 04, 2021, 09:43:26 AM
Allowing groups to buy all their "OTC" tags at once when the first guy gets in is unfair to others. That's basically line jumping in the queue. If IDFG were to do that, they should just make it a controlled draw with application fees and stop pretending it's not a controlled draw process for OTC tags.....then groups can apply together like a normal controlled draw as it is indeed a controlled draw at that point....