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Title: Koontz resigns!
Post by: Special T on December 13, 2021, 11:28:15 AM
https://nwsportsmanmag.com/koontz-resigns-from-wdfw-commission/?fbclid=IwAR0Ptua7fVbL3pmfc2NBOByEwYghDe6QyDti-tYJ3qKa3YB-wWj69NflmEY



Commissioner Fred Koontz resigns!
Title: Koontz resigns!
Post by: justyhntr on December 13, 2021, 11:29:07 AM
https://nwsportsmanmag.com/koontz-resigns-from-wdfw-commission/  Hope the link works.
Title: Re: Koontz resigns!
Post by: saylean on December 13, 2021, 11:32:39 AM
Hell yes.

Lorna Smith should be next
Title: Re: Koontz resigns!
Post by: idahohuntr on December 13, 2021, 11:34:13 AM
Wow.  I hope this is a positive that leads to a more reasonable appointment.
Title: Re: Koontz resigns!
Post by: RB on December 13, 2021, 11:34:39 AM
Hell yes.

Lorna Smith should be next


 :yeah:
Title: Re: Christmas came early!
Post by: Stein on December 13, 2021, 11:35:49 AM
It can always be worse, he did vote for the big game packages. 
Title: Re: Koontz resigns!
Post by: Fishmaker57 on December 13, 2021, 11:37:42 AM
And then Larry Carpenter!!!!!!! :chuckle:
Title: Re: Christmas came early!
Post by: Special T on December 13, 2021, 11:40:05 AM
It can always be worse, he did vote for the big game packages.

Such a Buzz killer
Title: Re: Christmas came early!
Post by: Stein on December 13, 2021, 11:42:27 AM
I have no faith in the Governor on this, every time he steps into the wildlife issue it's blatantly against consumptive use.  No science, no data, just the cute animal theorem.
Title: Re: Christmas came early!
Post by: Mtnwalker on December 13, 2021, 11:53:32 AM
It wouldn't surprise me if Inslee doubled down and made a revenge appointment, but what's the alternative? Would we have been happier if Koontz stayed? If he does make another bad appointment we yell twice as loud on the next one
Title: Re: Christmas came early!
Post by: Stein on December 13, 2021, 11:56:42 AM
I think it's the Eastern slot as well as if Larry leaves that are the big questions.  No doubt he'll replace Koontz with someone that looks just like him.
Title: Re: Koontz resigns!
Post by: elkchaser54 on December 13, 2021, 12:51:07 PM
I feel good knowing that I was part of the force that led to an environmentalist that doesn't even know what hunting is resigning from the commission that makes our rules.  Sending emails and being inundated by us hunters worked.  That's awesome new for us
Title: Re: Koontz resigns!
Post by: jackelope on December 13, 2021, 12:53:16 PM
Don't let the door hit you in ....
Title: Re: Christmas came early!
Post by: timberfaller on December 13, 2021, 01:44:31 PM
Zoo director and Phd.  should have waken some people up!!   Educated past his intelligence, is obvious!  AS are most department biologist.
Title: Re: Koontz resigns!
Post by: KFhunter on December 13, 2021, 02:11:08 PM
Everyone should send the comission another messsge applauding Koontz resignation and call for the resignation of smith and carpenter immediately
Title: Re: Christmas came early!
Post by: time2hunt on December 13, 2021, 02:12:13 PM
Is this a appointed position or can someone apply for it ?


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Title: Re: Koontz resigns!
Post by: Bushcraft on December 13, 2021, 02:17:58 PM
HUGE THANK YOU TO EVERYONE THAT APPLIED PRESSURE! 

This is what can happen when we make our voices heard loud and clear.

Next up...Lorna Smith.

Let's make Inslee choose/appoint rational people that will serve the best interests of the core priority stakeholders (hunters and anglers) and do so from a truly sustainable, science-based perspective...and then have the Senate actually ratify them per Washington State law.
Title: Re: Koontz resigns!
Post by: Bullkllr on December 13, 2021, 02:20:57 PM
Everyone should send the comission another messsge applauding Koontz resignation and call for the resignation of smith and carpenter immediately

 :yeah:

I found the resignation letter interesting. Particularly the "It wasn't at all what I expected" idea. He might as well have said, "The commission would not do whatever I wanted, so I had no meaningful role, so I'm resigning". Kinda scary; makes me wonder what he was told surrounding his appointment.

I'm holding out hope even Inslee can do better.
Title: Re: Christmas came early!
Post by: syoungs on December 13, 2021, 02:22:06 PM
Is this a appointed position or can someone apply for it ?


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dimslee appoints the position.
Title: Re: Koontz resigns!
Post by: Tbar on December 13, 2021, 02:23:05 PM
Everyone should send the comission another messsge applauding Koontz resignation and call for the resignation of smith and carpenter immediately

 :yeah:

I found the resignation letter interesting. Particularly the "It wasn't at all what I expected" idea. He might as well have said, "The commission would not do whatever I wanted, so I had no meaningful role, so I'm resigning". Kinda scary; makes me wonder what he was told surrounding his appointment.

I'm holding out hope even Inslee can do better.
:yeah:
Exactly how I read the letter.
Title: Re: Christmas came early!
Post by: Tbar on December 13, 2021, 02:26:17 PM
Is this a appointed position or can someone apply for it ?


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Yes to both.  It's appointed from a pool of applicants.
https://www.governor.wa.gov/boards-commissions/boards-commissions/apply-serve-board-or-commission
Title: Re: Koontz resigns!
Post by: Platensek-po on December 13, 2021, 02:28:20 PM
Can we get a revote on spring bear now that it won’t be tied?
Title: Re: Koontz resigns!
Post by: ganghis on December 13, 2021, 02:38:46 PM
Great news!  Now we just have to hope the next appointment is better.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Koontz resigns!
Post by: follow maggie on December 13, 2021, 02:47:19 PM
Careful what you wish for, though. I’d be surprised if Venezuela Jay doesn’t double down on someone even worse than him for his replacement.
Title: Re: Koontz resigns!
Post by: KFhunter on December 13, 2021, 02:49:48 PM
the fight is not over, will never be over
Title: Re: Koontz resigns!
Post by: GASoline71 on December 13, 2021, 03:13:32 PM
A lot of the anti groups are already urging the governor to appoint another anti.  I am glad Koontz resigned, but it opens the door to now appoint 2 more antis into the commission. 

I'm not at all satisfied that Inslee will appoint the right people into those 2 slots. Scares the crud out of me actually.

Gary
Title: Re: Koontz resigns!
Post by: time2hunt on December 13, 2021, 03:20:45 PM
Out of curiousity is this a full time job and what is the job description. There seems to be a lot of retired HW member on here that I would hope would be thinking of at least applying.


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Title: Re: Koontz resigns!
Post by: Special T on December 13, 2021, 04:22:54 PM
Out of curiousity is this a full time job and what is the job description. There seems to be a lot of retired HW member on here that I would hope would be thinking of at least applying.


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It's not a full time job as they only get "paid" on meeting days. I bet they have plenty of reading tho. If you examine the rcws on the comission and examine qualifications of past members they look something like this.
Retired professional with some kind of link to hunting fishing and animals. Have worked in some kind of corperate/professional environment that helps grasp what the agency is capable of likely people are business owners,  lawyers, biologists and such. Fill one of the user groups  slots to make sure everyone is represented.
Title: Koontz resigns!
Post by: jackelope on December 13, 2021, 07:57:33 PM
RCW 77.04.040

“The governor shall seek to maintain a balance ….”

https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=77.04.040

Commission—Qualifications of members.

Persons eligible for appointment as members of the commission shall have general knowledge of the habits and distribution of fish and wildlife and shall not hold another state, county, or municipal elective or appointive office. In making these appointments, the governor shall seek to maintain a balance reflecting all aspects of fish and wildlife, including representation recommended by organized groups representing sportfishers, commercial fishers, hunters, private landowners, and environmentalists. Persons eligible for appointment as fish and wildlife commissioners shall comply with the provisions of chapters 42.52 and * 42.17 RCW.
[ 1995 1st sp.s. c 2 § 3 (Referendum Bill No. 45, approved November 7, 1995); 1993 sp.s. c 2 § 61; 1987 c 506 § 6; 1980 c 78 § 5; 1955 c 36 § 77.04.040. Prior: 1947 c 275 § 4; Rem. Supp. 1947 § 5992-14.]
Title: Re: Koontz resigns!
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on December 13, 2021, 08:23:08 PM
This is so great to hear!!!!!!! :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: Koontz resigns!
Post by: saylean on December 13, 2021, 08:45:19 PM
https://govforms.dynamics365portals.us/application-form/

This is the link to apply to be on the commission.
Title: Re: Koontz resigns!
Post by: KFhunter on December 14, 2021, 01:32:18 PM
I think Nikki must be getting a lot of these emails  :chuckle:   :tup:


Good morning,

Your comments have been forwarded to the Commission.

If you have a specific complaint about a commissioner, I suggest you reach out to the Governors Boards and Commissions office. They can be reached at 360-902-4111 or by email at GovernorBoardsandCommissions@gov.wa.gov.

Please let me know if you have any additional questions.

Much appreciated.
Nikki




I sent another to the GovernorBoardsandCommissions@gov.wa.gov. email asking that Smith and Carpenter be replaced and a new comission member be appointed for NEWA. 

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