Post by: jjness11 on December 16, 2021, 09:34:32 AM
Post by: CP on December 16, 2021, 09:42:32 AM
Post by: b23 on December 16, 2021, 09:51:44 AM
Post by: MooseZ25 on December 16, 2021, 10:11:31 AM
Post by: jjness11 on December 16, 2021, 10:16:25 AM
@MooseZ25 what kind of velocity are you getting out of your 6.5? Curious what the FPS loss with a 20"?
Post by: 10mmg on December 16, 2021, 11:23:15 AM
Post by: MooseZ25 on December 16, 2021, 12:27:43 PM
I was leaning towards a 20" CF wrapped barrel, to help keep it rigid. Anything shorter than 16" is going to require a second stamp, and I really don't wanna go down that rabbit hole. As far as type of hunting, its everything from dense Western WA, to open country Mulies in Eastern MT.
@MooseZ25 what kind of velocity are you getting out of your 6.5? Curious what the FPS loss with a 20"?
I am shooting 140 VLD Hunters with Retumbo Powder at 2975 fps.
Post by: Sundance on December 16, 2021, 12:38:14 PM
Post by: fly-by on December 16, 2021, 01:18:49 PM
Curious how many of you hunt suppressed, and what cartridge and barrel length you run with your can. I have one can now, and a second on the way. My kids are starting to hunt more and more, so thought I would start moving more this direction. One of my biggest concerns with the rifles I have now is 24"-26" barrels. Put a 6" or 7" can on the end of that, you're getting pretty long. Working on a 20" 7 SAUM, but curious what you guys have used, or are using.
Almost exclusively hunt supressed. Go to rifle is a 16.5" Remington Model Seven in .308. It has a tapered barrel that flares to accomodate 5/8-24 threads. With a Silenceco Harvester it balances nicely on the floor plate. I use cup and core bullets that expand at modest velocities to compensate for the short barrel. Topped with a Luepold VX-R 2-7x33. Quiet, carries great, very effective on game.
Also have a 21" Browning X-Bolt in .243 threaded 1/2-28 for the Harvester, but find the larger rifle plus longer barrel is enough to make it awkward for hiking around.
Post by: Farmer72 on December 16, 2021, 01:45:40 PM
Post by: jrebel on December 16, 2021, 03:40:57 PM
Post by: dreadi on December 16, 2021, 04:01:53 PM
https://amtacsuppressors.com/product/mantis-p-30cal-suppressor/ (https://amtacsuppressors.com/product/mantis-p-30cal-suppressor/)
You can also consider getting cans that are primarily made of Titanium, for hunting in addition to cutting down your barrel. I had SPR Industries take a few inches off my Rem 700 300WM, and thread it. After adding the OSS 7.62 it felt front heavy but, after putting the scope back on, it balanced back out.
I will be putting a Dead Air Nomad-Ti on my 6.8 SPC rifle for next year's seasons to keep my ear protected. It can also pull duty on my 300WM, and 300 BO.
Anyone that wants to keep the weight down and keep the barrel as long as possible, there are options to accommodate your wants.
Post by: fowl smacker on December 16, 2021, 04:36:44 PM
Post by: jjness11 on December 16, 2021, 10:15:07 PM
Post by: Sr15 on December 16, 2021, 11:05:37 PM
More fun than you should be allowed to have:)
Post by: Wetwoodshunter on December 17, 2021, 06:51:31 AM
I was planning on building a 300 blackout of some sort once I got my can to shoot subsonic suppressed with because why the heck not? Now I'm thinking maybe build a hunting specific rifle with a 16.25" barrel in .308 win.
https://rifleshooter.com/2013/12/300-winchester-magnum-how-does-barrel-length-change-velocity-a-16-300-win-mag/
Post by: jjness11 on December 17, 2021, 08:16:56 AM
This thread has sent me down a rabbit hole that I need to get out of. Currently, my 7" TBAC Ultra Gen 2 is in jail and should be out any day now (10 months post tax stamp hit). I was planning on hunting with it on my Christensen Ridgeline .300 wsm which is 24" + 7" = 30"-31" of barrel after it is threaded on. I found the following article extremely interesting to read about barrel lengths and the 300 win mag.
I was planning on building a 300 blackout of some sort once I got my can to shoot subsonic suppressed with because why the heck not? Now I'm thinking maybe build a hunting specific rifle with a 16.25" barrel in .308 win.
https://rifleshooter.com/2013/12/300-winchester-magnum-how-does-barrel-length-change-velocity-a-16-300-win-mag/
That TBAC 7 Gen 2 is next on my list!!! I went with the Gunwerks Six, when Silencer Shop was offering a free stamp (I'm a sucker for a "good deal"). Interesting article. I have seen similar ones on the 6.5 Creed, but never one on a 30 cal magnum. Another really good resource for this conversation is episode #128 of teh Backcountry Hunting Podcast. Its by far my favorite podcast, and he dives pretty deep into it, and breaks down a few calibers.
Post by: dreadi on December 17, 2021, 10:44:42 AM
This thread has sent me down a rabbit hole that I need to get out of. Currently, my 7" TBAC Ultra Gen 2 is in jail and should be out any day now (10 months post tax stamp hit). I was planning on hunting with it on my Christensen Ridgeline .300 wsm which is 24" + 7" = 30"-31" of barrel after it is threaded on. I found the following article extremely interesting to read about barrel lengths and the 300 win mag.
I was planning on building a 300 blackout of some sort once I got my can to shoot subsonic suppressed with because why the heck not? Now I'm thinking maybe build a hunting specific rifle with a 16.25" barrel in .308 win.
https://rifleshooter.com/2013/12/300-winchester-magnum-how-does-barrel-length-change-velocity-a-16-300-win-mag/
That TBAC 7 Gen 2 is next on my list!!! I went with the Gunwerks Six, when Silencer Shop was offering a free stamp (I'm a sucker for a "good deal"). Interesting article. I have seen similar ones on the 6.5 Creed, but never one on a 30 cal magnum. Another really good resource for this conversation is episode #128 of teh Backcountry Hunting Podcast. Its by far my favorite podcast, and he dives pretty deep into it, and breaks down a few calibers.
Free tax stamps really are one of the best deals that comes around regularly. It's just such a game of patience to wait for a the promotion knowing you still have a wait ahead of you.
Post by: jasnt on December 17, 2021, 02:08:31 PM
Post by: Joel1999 on December 17, 2021, 02:12:09 PM
Post by: dreadi on December 17, 2021, 02:37:17 PM
Looks like I’ll be putting in for a Dead Air Nomad Ti pretty soon. ATF will be rolling out the Efile program before the end of the month making the application process faster. Gotta try and get mine before next season.
I can put one on back order for you if you haven't found one in stock.
Post by: Joel1999 on December 17, 2021, 02:53:16 PM
Post by: b23 on December 17, 2021, 03:19:36 PM
You guys are not helping my toy budget
HA! :chuckle:
All these forums do is cost me more money than I'll ever admit. Bought a Tikka at Sportsman's Warehouse Wed. because they were on sale. :rolleyes:
Ya, thanks Karl! I don't really even know Karl but I blame everything Tikka related on him. :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Sr15 on December 17, 2021, 04:33:57 PM
Post by: jasnt on December 17, 2021, 07:06:21 PM
😂. Haven’t had the pleasure of meeting him myself but he seems like a good man. Not b23 man but almostYou guys are not helping my toy budget
HA! :chuckle:
All these forums do is cost me more money than I'll ever admit. Bought a Tikka at Sportsman's Warehouse Wed. because they were on sale. :rolleyes:
Ya, thanks Karl! I don't really even know Karl but I blame everything Tikka related on him. :chuckle: :chuckle: