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Title: My son's bull 1st place
Post by: rasbo on February 07, 2022, 04:32:21 AM
My boy is happy,his bull took 1st place in this year's competition at Puyallup sportsman show cascade Roosevelt elk  356 2/8 .I didn't know there were different Roosevelt elk.  He won a handgun 9mm Smith and wesson.
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Post by: Bucks2Ducks on February 07, 2022, 04:36:10 AM
WOW :yike:
Did I miss the story on this bull?
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Post by: Timberstalker on February 07, 2022, 04:37:18 AM
That bull is awesome.
I was wondering where this bull would end up score wise.
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Post by: hawks33 on February 07, 2022, 05:06:13 AM
That's an awesome bull! Congrats to your son.
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Post by: Special T on February 07, 2022, 05:11:38 AM
Masher!
Title: Re: My son's bull 1st place
Post by: rasbo on February 07, 2022, 06:20:57 AM
That bull is awesome.
I was wondering where this bull would end up score wise.
he would have scored 371 if he was shot on the other side of i-5 
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Post by: Wanttohuntmore on February 07, 2022, 06:28:51 AM
Nice!  Congrats!  He'll have trouble topping that!
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Post by: trophyhunt on February 07, 2022, 06:46:07 AM
Great bull, especially with a bow!  I didn't realize the rosie and cascade were scored differently??? 
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Post by: C-Money on February 07, 2022, 06:59:12 AM
Excellent! Congrats to your son!
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Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 07, 2022, 07:03:44 AM
Great bull, especially with a bow!  I didn't realize the rosie and cascade were scored differently???
all elk are scored the same. Different book minimums but the scoring process is the same.
Title: Re: My son's bull 1st place
Post by: jackelope on February 07, 2022, 07:19:44 AM
Great bull, especially with a bow!  I didn't realize the rosie and cascade were scored differently???
all elk are scored the same. Different book minimums but the scoring process is the same.

^^^

The northwest big game record book calls him a cascade roosevelt elk because he was killed east of I-5. Boone and Crockett, Pope and Young etc will consider him a Rocky I believe for the same reason.
Stud bull regardless of where he was killed. Congrats to your son.
Title: Re: My son's bull 1st place
Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 07, 2022, 07:21:37 AM
Great bull, especially with a bow!  I didn't realize the rosie and cascade were scored differently???
all elk are scored the same. Different book minimums but the scoring process is the same.

^^^

The northwest big game record book calls him a cascade roosevelt elk because he was killed east of I-5. Boone and Crockett, Pope and Young etc will consider him a Rocky I believe for the same reason.
Stud bull regardless of where he was killed. Congrats to your son.
  :yeah: cranker bull!
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Post by: RB on February 07, 2022, 07:34:41 AM
Wow that's awesome!  :tup:
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Post by: pianoman9701 on February 07, 2022, 07:48:32 AM
Saw that. It's an awesome animal.  :tup:
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Post by: Ridgerunner on February 07, 2022, 07:58:10 AM
awesome bull, any other photos of the other high placing critters?
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Post by: WapitiTalk1 on February 07, 2022, 08:00:44 AM
Excellent! A huge congrats to the young hunter.
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Post by: nwhunter on February 07, 2022, 08:10:40 AM
Great bull, especially with a bow!  I didn't realize the rosie and cascade were scored differently???
all elk are scored the same. Different book minimums but the scoring process is the same.

True roosevelts, bulls west of I-5, don't get any deductions above g-4's because they typically crown and thats still considered a typical for roosevelts. Bulls east of I-5 are considered Rocky's so scored the same as eastside bulls so any nontypical points are deducts...
Title: Re: My son's bull 1st place
Post by: Tbar on February 07, 2022, 08:44:45 AM
Cascade Roosevelt use the Roosevelt scoring system where crowns are not deducted.
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Post by: trophyhunt on February 07, 2022, 08:53:39 AM
Great bull, especially with a bow!  I didn't realize the rosie and cascade were scored differently???
all elk are scored the same. Different book minimums but the scoring process is the same.

True roosevelts, bulls west of I-5, don't get any deductions above g-4's because they typically crown and thats still considered a typical for roosevelts. Bulls east of I-5 are considered Rocky's so scored the same as eastside bulls so any nontypical points are deducts...
Thanks for clarifying Scott, I thought all elk were scored the same way but sounds like a difference with Rosie’s.
Title: Re: My son's bull 1st place
Post by: nwhunter on February 07, 2022, 09:35:07 AM
Cascade Roosevelt use the Roosevelt scoring system where crowns are not deducted.
But the only group that recognizes cascade roosevelts are the Washington Oregon record book guys. Boone and Crockett and Pope and Young do not just like they dont recognize cascade blacktails (benchleg) vs true coastal blacktails... The record books that really matter look at cascade roosevelts as Rockies only and score them as Rockies with normal deducts ..
Title: Re: My son's bull 1st place
Post by: rasbo on February 07, 2022, 10:05:13 AM
Great bull, especially with a bow!  I didn't realize the rosie and cascade were scored differently???
all elk are scored the same. Different book minimums but the scoring process is the same.
west of i5 he would score more as a non typical or something like that.  My son didn't care
Title: Re: My son's bull 1st place
Post by: Tbar on February 07, 2022, 10:13:06 AM
Cascade Roosevelt use the Roosevelt scoring system where crowns are not deducted.
But the only group that recognizes cascade roosevelts are the Washington Oregon record book guys. Boone and Crockett and Pope and Young do not just like they dont recognize cascade blacktails (benchleg) vs true coastal blacktails... The record books that really matter look at cascade roosevelts as Rockies only and score them as Rockies with normal deducts ..
I live in Washington state.  I also know that there is intermixed genetic makeup of many herds.  Roosevelt subspecies did not cease to exist at the construction of i5.  West of the crest is a really unique mix of both subspecies with different dominant characteristics.  I am not a fan of overemphasized focus on score but appreciate that there is recognition of the west of the crest and east of the interstate even if they aren't in a category that matters(to you).
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Post by: nwwanderer on February 07, 2022, 10:21:07 AM
Special regardless of scoring/human stuff, thanks!!!
Title: Re: My son's bull 1st place
Post by: nwhunter on February 07, 2022, 02:05:37 PM
I wholeheartedly agree its a great bull and mentioning the true scoring methods and rules wasn't meant to take away from a great bull at all. I was just trying to clarify what I have had to figure out because for some guys "The Book" matters a bunch and to others not so much. Boone and Crockett record book doesn't recognize cascade roosevelts in a category of their own so they are mixed in with the Rocky Mountain elk and scored that way with deducts for any nontypical points .. That being said some of those bulls are very impressive with the mass and coloration they have because of the roosevelt genes they carry....
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Post by: trophyhunt on February 07, 2022, 02:09:24 PM
 :tup:  Yup, great bull!
Title: Re: My son's bull 1st place
Post by: Sundance on February 07, 2022, 02:30:26 PM
was that under the typical or non-typical category?
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Post by: h2ofowlr on February 07, 2022, 03:24:32 PM
Looks like a nice one.
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Post by: time2hunt on February 07, 2022, 04:14:49 PM
Awesome bull A big Rosie is on the bucket list 


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Title: Re: My son's bull 1st place
Post by: KNOPHISH on February 07, 2022, 04:33:17 PM
Very nice, congrats. Any field pics?
Title: Re: My son's bull 1st place
Post by: rasbo on February 07, 2022, 05:54:54 PM
was that under the typical or non-typical category?
typical,
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Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on February 07, 2022, 06:49:00 PM
Great Great bull! Congrats to both of you and family! A trophy to be displayed for generations after generations! :tup:
Title: Re: My son's bull 1st place
Post by: jkononen on February 07, 2022, 06:55:17 PM
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,264091.0.html
This bull right?
Title: Re: My son's bull 1st place
Post by: rasbo on February 08, 2022, 02:45:23 AM
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,264091.0.html
This bull right?
yes it is
Title: Re: My son's bull 1st place
Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 08, 2022, 07:07:09 AM
Great bull, especially with a bow!  I didn't realize the rosie and cascade were scored differently???
all elk are scored the same. Different book minimums but the scoring process is the same.

True roosevelts, bulls west of I-5, don't get any deductions above g-4's because they typically crown and thats still considered a typical for roosevelts. Bulls east of I-5 are considered Rocky's so scored the same as eastside bulls so any nontypical points are deducts...
well all be....learn something new every day  :tup:
Title: Re: My son's bull 1st place
Post by: Sundance on February 08, 2022, 07:21:07 AM
was that under the typical or non-typical category?
typical,

Nice! New #5 or 6, that freaking sweet!
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