Post by: syoungs on February 10, 2022, 07:44:27 AM
I would like to get something smaller for daily carry.
Right now, I am strongly leaning to picking up a Taurus g3c, I had a g2c that shot amazing for the price, and was proven reliable. With that said, I'm out of touch on these smaller guns, I haven't been in the market for years now, and don't know what I don't know.
So for a sub 500$ carry gun, what's your recommendation's, and why?
I want to stick with 9mm as I keep that stockpiled pretty well for training purposes, and I have a ton of 9mm self defense ammo on the shelf.
Post by: Iveexcaped3 on February 10, 2022, 08:00:44 AM
My advice would be go to a range and rent some and see what fits best for you.
Also one thing to help your choice is holster availability. I use an aliengear shapeshifter in left handed. They unfortunately don’t make the same holster for my cz.
Post by: pianoman9701 on February 10, 2022, 08:16:28 AM
Post by: Dan-o on February 10, 2022, 08:24:59 AM
I carry a Ruger LC-9 with a trigger mod (reduces pull and tension), and TruGlo sights. Slides into my pocket.
I got Ruger LC9S for my wife, one son, one daughter and myself.
They also cycle everything very reliably.
My wife has normal woman sized hands.
I have XL mens hands.
Standard they come 7+1 capacity, but you can get mags that are 8+1, 9+1, and 10+1.
My wife carries 8+1, with a 9+1 spare mag in her carry purse. The 10+1 fits my hand.
No complaints with them.
I bought a SigP365XL for myself, but haven't shot it enough to carry.
That's about the summation of my experience with small frame pistols.
* Also a +1 for hitting a range that has rentals. I did this, and discovered that the P365 did not fit my hand well, but the P365XL did. Also ruled out the Springfield Hellcat due to not fitting my hand. Cheap and effective way to see what you like.
Post by: jrebel on February 10, 2022, 08:27:59 AM
1. Ruger LCR 9mm revolver (I carry the .357 and also own a .22 wmr for shooting....a lot)
2. Glock 43 or 43x....I've shot them and actually really like the feel. I don't own or carry, though they would make great carry pieces.
3. P365....I like the feel and it shoots great. Another great choice.
4. Kimber Mako....never shot one, but the reviews are great and boy oh boy did it feel good in my hands.
There are lots of choices out there but this would be my short list if I was in your market. I also carry a ruger sr40c and it really is not "c" compact compared to the ones listed above. Good luck in your search....I'm in the mindset that everyday carry is a must now days. :tup:
Post by: thinkingman on February 10, 2022, 08:39:52 AM
I got the urge for more capacity...Kahr was 7+1.
Checked out the Sig P365 and really liked the feel.
I ended up buying a Sig P365X, which has the larger grip of the 365XL and the barrel length of the standard 365.
Great shooter...Shot amazingly small groups with it, love the sights, decent recoil, grip fits me perfectly(size medium gloves).
I do notice the additional bulk and weight compared the to the Kahr.
I'm sure the 5 extra rounds makes some difference but there are times I wish I was carrying the Kahr.
Edit...Sig P365 is not what I would call a 'budget' carry.
If I was looking to save a bit of coin, I would look at the SW Shield EZ...They market it to women because of less effort to manipulate the slide and magazine but honestly, the EZ would be my choice over the standard Shield in 9mm.
Post by: wadu1 on February 10, 2022, 09:06:35 AM
Post by: HUNTIN4SIX on February 10, 2022, 09:25:29 AM
Post by: Iveexcaped3 on February 10, 2022, 09:29:53 AM
Post by: bustedoldman on February 10, 2022, 09:37:11 AM
I’d also want to give my opinion that “budget” and “ccw” shouldn’t be in the same sentence. If it’s for personal safety, price point should be the last check box
I agree....
Post by: Dan-o on February 10, 2022, 11:26:46 AM
I’d also want to give my opinion that “budget” and “ccw” shouldn’t be in the same sentence. If it’s for personal safety, price point should be the last check box
I agree....
Everybody has a budget.
He asked for a $500 price point, and there are plenty of pistols that are very reliable in that price range..... a bunch of them listed here.
Post by: Mtnwalker on February 10, 2022, 11:30:50 AM
I’d also want to give my opinion that “budget” and “ccw” shouldn’t be in the same sentence. If it’s for personal safety, price point should be the last check box
I agree....
Everybody has a budget.
He asked for a $500 price point, and there are plenty of pistols that are very reliable in that price range..... a bunch of them listed here.
:yeah: The most expensive compact handgun I own is the least reliable and no longer gets carried.
Post by: Tenkara on February 10, 2022, 12:15:03 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on February 10, 2022, 12:27:31 PM
Post by: HntnFsh on February 10, 2022, 12:35:59 PM
Something to consider is whether you'll end up carrying it. I won an XD .45 at a RMEF dinner one year. It was my only handgun. I got my CPL and started carrying it. Concealed, it was like carrying a baby around stuffed inside the side of my pants. You could easily see the bulge and it was heavy. I got a shoulder holster. But then the weather got nicer. So that was out. I specifically got the Ruger because I could have concealed protection every time I went out the door with something I could shoot accurately at close range. If it's hard to carry it, you won't. Get something that's Light, comfortable, and easy to shoot well.
Very true words. Been the same route. Love my Sig 365. Easy to conceal and carry. But the wife's LC9S is even easier
Post by: Iveexcaped3 on February 10, 2022, 12:37:48 PM
I’d also want to give my opinion that “budget” and “ccw” shouldn’t be in the same sentence. If it’s for personal safety, price point should be the last check box
I agree....
Everybody has a budget.
He asked for a $500 price point, and there are plenty of pistols that are very reliable in that price range..... a bunch of them listed here.
I don’t disagree with you, there are many in his range but budget shouldn’t be a factor when looking for a ccw. The feel in the hand, controllable recoil, sights, accessories. You shouldn’t settle because of a budget, that’s what you do with plinking firearms not one that your life might depend on in a matter of a split second.
I had a similar budget when I went looking, best thing I did was go to a range and try them out. The sig ticked all my boxes except the $. I waited another month and put away the money I needed for the firearm that felt most natural in my hand.
Post by: thinkingman on February 10, 2022, 12:40:40 PM
Ditto.Something to consider is whether you'll end up carrying it. I won an XD .45 at a RMEF dinner one year. It was my only handgun. I got my CPL and started carrying it. Concealed, it was like carrying a baby around stuffed inside the side of my pants. You could easily see the bulge and it was heavy. I got a shoulder holster. But then the weather got nicer. So that was out. I specifically got the Ruger because I could have concealed protection every time I went out the door with something I could shoot accurately at close range. If it's hard to carry it, you won't. Get something that's Light, comfortable, and easy to shoot well.
Very true words. Been the same route. Love my Sig 365. Easy to conceal and carry. But the wife's LC9S is even easier
See my comments re Kahr vs Sig.
Post by: ASHQUACK on February 10, 2022, 01:22:43 PM
Post by: jackelope on February 10, 2022, 01:30:21 PM
Post by: Dan-o on February 10, 2022, 03:03:24 PM
Surprised nobody’s mentioned the Hellcat. I love mine.
Wake up, Josh!
I mentioned the Hellcat.
I've heard nothing but good about them. Great capacity in a small frame.
It was on my very short list of finalists. I just didn't shoot it well.
Post by: syoungs on February 10, 2022, 04:13:14 PM
I know you didn't ask but I have a Glock 43x unfired that'd I'd be interested in selling and it comes in under your price point. It also comes with a cc holster. I bought it and carry my xds in .40 so it just sits in it's plastic case in the safe.
Ill send you a pm.
Post by: syoungs on February 10, 2022, 04:17:42 PM
Something to consider is whether you'll end up carrying it. I won an XD .45 at a RMEF dinner one year. It was my only handgun. I got my CPL and started carrying it. Concealed, it was like carrying a baby around stuffed inside the side of my pants. You could easily see the bulge and it was heavy. I got a shoulder holster. But then the weather got nicer. So that was out. I specifically got the Ruger because I could have concealed protection every time I went out the door with something I could shoot accurately at close range. If it's hard to carry it, you won't. Get something that's Light, comfortable, and easy to shoot well.
Very true words. Been the same route. Love my Sig 365. Easy to conceal and carry. But the wife's LC9S is even easier
This is why I'm on the hunt. 90% of the time I leave the gun at home when I'm running around town, cause its just a pain to conceal a full size pistol. I've been procrastinating on the purchase for a bit now, but with the fred meyer shooting in my back yard, along with a couple others the past few years its time to just do it.
Post by: ghosthunter on February 10, 2022, 05:11:13 PM
. But hiding it was a pain.
I got a LCP with a cross breed pocket pistol holster. Very comfortable and carry every day. If I am going deeper for longer I slip in a double shoulder holster with a Bond Hand Cannon in each arm pit. Plus the LCP.
Whatever you get if it’s too big or to hard to hide you will start leaving it home and that defeats the purpose. Go small, than smaller. :twocents:
Post by: bigdub257 on February 10, 2022, 05:13:48 PM
Some great info on this thread!
Post by: jdb on February 10, 2022, 05:26:32 PM
Post by: Cougartail on February 10, 2022, 06:03:31 PM
Post by: Iveexcaped3 on February 10, 2022, 06:13:06 PM
I know it isnt very manly but a 38 revolver with a speedloader is my daily carry. The little Tauras ultralite's are reliable and easy to carry.
It’s always manly to not leave casings behind ;)
Post by: Cougartail on February 10, 2022, 06:21:00 PM
I know it isnt very manly but a 38 revolver with a speedloader is my daily carry. The little Tauras ultralite's are reliable and easy to carry.
It’s always manly to not leave casings behind ;)
:chuckle:
Post by: jrebel on February 10, 2022, 06:27:43 PM
Post by: NRA4LIFE on February 10, 2022, 07:23:21 PM
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Revolvers always go boom when you pull the trigger. Only down side is the 5-6 round capacity. My daily carry is a 5 round revolver....and I am deadly accurate with it at self defense ranges.
That!
Post by: RockChuck on February 10, 2022, 07:41:58 PM
Post by: Igor on February 10, 2022, 08:52:05 PM
S&W 342PD...........10.8 oz. of fury. Carried in either an ankle holster or just in a coat pocket, it's barely noticeable.
(https://i.imgur.com/3x40fAum.jpg)
Post by: HntnFsh on February 11, 2022, 06:22:53 AM
Interested in others thoughts on this.
Post by: Igor on February 11, 2022, 06:37:13 AM
Its always seemed to me that an ankle holster is about the last place I would want to carry concealed. Great when you have time to retrieve but what about in close quarters or when you need a quick counter?
Interested in others thoughts on this.
I agree.....it's not the best option for retrieving quickly. But, when driving or riding in a vehicle, it is a comfortable way to carry.......and accessible.
Post by: Iveexcaped3 on February 11, 2022, 07:00:05 AM
Its always seemed to me that an ankle holster is about the last place I would want to carry concealed. Great when you have time to retrieve but what about in close quarters or when you need a quick counter?
Interested in others thoughts on this.
I think if you know you have time to retrieve it and if you have an option to make that much movement it works. Like the Fred Myers situation if you were in a different isle sure it will work.
Fastest, easiest, and most comfortable should be spot number 1. For me that’s ITW 8:00.
Post by: fowl smacker on February 11, 2022, 07:16:04 AM
Its always seemed to me that an ankle holster is about the last place I would want to carry concealed. Great when you have time to retrieve but what about in close quarters or when you need a quick counter?I appendix carry for the reason that it is the quickest (for me), and least obvious that I'm going after my weapon.
Interested in others thoughts on this.
Post by: follow maggie on February 11, 2022, 07:54:49 PM
Post by: Alchase on February 11, 2022, 11:01:27 PM
I agree that a single stack 9mm is about the thinnest Conceal Carry option, the Hellcat (great shooter BTW) or if you are a Glock person, any one of the "Baby Glocks" will do perfectly fine.
Just get a really good belt and wear it. :tup:
Post by: jjness11 on February 13, 2022, 11:42:58 AM
Post by: fowl smacker on February 13, 2022, 01:04:12 PM
I always carried a G19. Then my wife picked up a CZ P10C. After shooting hers, I bought one for myself and stuck the Glock in the safe. For me, I shoot the better and more confidently. It’s just a touch over $500, but it’s my go to.Love my p10c but don't use it as my cc gun. P365 for that.
Post by: jjness11 on February 13, 2022, 03:05:56 PM
I always carried a G19. Then my wife picked up a CZ P10C. After shooting hers, I bought one for myself and stuck the Glock in the safe. For me, I shoot the better and more confidently. It’s just a touch over $500, but it’s my go to.Love my p10c but don't use it as my cc gun. P365 for that.
I may be looking for something different if this whole magazine ban goes through. No sense in carrying a P10C size CCW, when you’re limited to 10 rounds per mag…
Post by: MADMAX on February 13, 2022, 03:16:23 PM
Or the western Marshall in 38 special /.357
Post by: Dan-o on February 13, 2022, 05:05:36 PM
I always carried a G19. Then my wife picked up a CZ P10C. After shooting hers, I bought one for myself and stuck the Glock in the safe. For me, I shoot the better and more confidently. It’s just a touch over $500, but it’s my go to.Love my p10c but don't use it as my cc gun. P365 for that.
I may be looking for something different if this whole magazine ban goes through. No sense in carrying a P10C size CCW, when you’re limited to 10 rounds per mag…
@jjness11
The ban is for sale, import, build, but NOT for possession.
Might just be time to buy yourself a couple spare high cap mags and be good to go, if you like your P10C.
Post by: Cougartail on February 13, 2022, 06:51:39 PM
Post by: Russ McDonald on February 13, 2022, 07:23:31 PM
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Post by: jjness11 on February 13, 2022, 07:29:00 PM
The way I read it, you can't have 11+ magazines even loaded unless at a shooting range or in the feild?
Not to hijack the thread, but that is my understanding also. You can have them in your home, and the only time they can leave your home is for transport to a recreational shooting facility.
Post by: Dan-o on February 13, 2022, 07:55:24 PM
The way I read it, you can't have 11+ magazines even loaded unless at a shooting range or in the feild?
Not to hijack the thread, but that is my understanding also. You can have them in your home, and the only time they can leave your home is for transport to a recreational shooting facility.
Yikes!!
Thanks you two.
I will have to go re-read it.
Post by: wadu1 on February 13, 2022, 08:20:11 PM
Post by: Bob33 on February 13, 2022, 08:56:41 PM
Post by: Dan-o on February 13, 2022, 09:03:48 PM
And.......... crap!
Post by: Bob33 on February 13, 2022, 10:08:56 PM
"The original bill would have prohibited the possession of magazines with a capacity of more than 10 rounds. An amendment that passed Wednesday removed the provision banning possession."
Let's hope this dies altogether.
Post by: Dan-o on February 13, 2022, 11:01:58 PM
Researching this:
"The original bill would have prohibited the possession of magazines with a capacity of more than 10 rounds. An amendment that passed Wednesday removed the provision banning possession."
Let's hope this dies altogether.
@Bob33
It passed the Senate, right?
I thought the house was even more liberal?
And I can't imagine Inslee won't sign.
Aren't we in real trouble here?
Post by: Iveexcaped3 on February 14, 2022, 06:25:36 AM
Researching this:
"The original bill would have prohibited the possession of magazines with a capacity of more than 10 rounds. An amendment that passed Wednesday removed the provision banning possession."
Let's hope this dies altogether.
@Bob33
It passed the Senate, right?
I thought the house was even more liberal?
And I can't imagine Inslee won't sign.
Aren't we in real trouble here?
Yes it passed senate, 28-20. It’s going to pass. I left CA to get away from this bs. Guess it’s time to get out of WA too because it’s an ugly slope the state is on.
Post by: Alchase on February 15, 2022, 04:25:49 PM
Post by: Iveexcaped3 on February 15, 2022, 04:39:30 PM
Did not another state just get overturned on a high capacity magazine ban?
California did. The appeals court upheld the mag ban. Waiting for a supreme judge to take the case.
Post by: Alchase on February 15, 2022, 04:56:40 PM
Did not another state just get overturned on a high capacity magazine ban?
California did. The appeals court upheld the mag ban. Waiting for a supreme judge to take the case.
Thank you,