Post by: bigtex on February 10, 2022, 02:36:53 PM
In WA this will have no impact on the eastern third of the state since that area had already been de-listed. However, this will impact the western two-thirds of the state that were previously de-listed under the Trump Admin.
https://apnews.com/article/jeffrey-white-environment-and-nature-wildlife-wolves-0961f3065ab154ee693936295c18a5a0
Post by: hunter399 on February 10, 2022, 02:50:45 PM
A US District Court Judge in Oakland stated that "U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service had failed to show wolf populations could be sustained in the Midwest and portions of the West without protection under the Endangered Species Act." Wolves were de-listed by the Trump Administration prior to him leaving office.Are we talking about a judge in California,why would anybody In there right mind believe anything coming out of California.
In WA this will have no impact on the eastern third of the state since that area had already been de-listed. However, this will impact the western two-thirds of the state that were previously de-listed under the Trump Admin.
https://apnews.com/article/jeffrey-white-environment-and-nature-wildlife-wolves-0961f3065ab154ee693936295c18a5a0
I'm not saying it isn't true ,I'm sure a judge there did rule that.
They need to make California no longer a US state in my mind,that place is a joke.
Post by: Iveexcaped3 on February 10, 2022, 03:01:07 PM
A US District Court Judge in Oakland stated that "U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service had failed to show wolf populations could be sustained in the Midwest and portions of the West without protection under the Endangered Species Act." Wolves were de-listed by the Trump Administration prior to him leaving office.Are we talking about a judge in California,why would anybody In there right mind believe anything coming out of California.
In WA this will have no impact on the eastern third of the state since that area had already been de-listed. However, this will impact the western two-thirds of the state that were previously de-listed under the Trump Admin.
https://apnews.com/article/jeffrey-white-environment-and-nature-wildlife-wolves-0961f3065ab154ee693936295c18a5a0
I'm not saying it isn't true ,I'm sure a judge there did rule that.
They need to make California no longer a US state in my mind,that place is a joke.
Let’s be honest, the whole west coast is a joke.
Post by: bigtex on February 10, 2022, 03:04:37 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on February 10, 2022, 03:10:43 PM
A US District Court Judge in Oakland stated that "U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service had failed to show wolf populations could be sustained in the Midwest and portions of the West without protection under the Endangered Species Act." Wolves were de-listed by the Trump Administration prior to him leaving office.
In WA this will have no impact on the eastern third of the state since that area had already been de-listed. However, this will impact the western two-thirds of the state that were previously de-listed under the Trump Admin.
https://apnews.com/article/jeffrey-white-environment-and-nature-wildlife-wolves-0961f3065ab154ee693936295c18a5a0
So, you're saying that the whole state of WA had been delisted? I didn't realize that. I thought just the eastern third had been.
Post by: bigtex on February 10, 2022, 03:16:26 PM
Yes. Under the Trump Admin decision in January 2021 wolves were delisted in all of WA, OR, and CA.A US District Court Judge in Oakland stated that "U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service had failed to show wolf populations could be sustained in the Midwest and portions of the West without protection under the Endangered Species Act." Wolves were de-listed by the Trump Administration prior to him leaving office.
In WA this will have no impact on the eastern third of the state since that area had already been de-listed. However, this will impact the western two-thirds of the state that were previously de-listed under the Trump Admin.
https://apnews.com/article/jeffrey-white-environment-and-nature-wildlife-wolves-0961f3065ab154ee693936295c18a5a0
So, you're saying that the whole state of WA had been delisted? I didn't realize that. I thought just the eastern third had been.
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Post by: pianoman9701 on February 10, 2022, 03:58:48 PM
Damn, and I didn't get to take advantage.Yes. Under the Trump Admin decision in January 2021 wolves were delisted in all of WA, OR, and CA.A US District Court Judge in Oakland stated that "U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service had failed to show wolf populations could be sustained in the Midwest and portions of the West without protection under the Endangered Species Act." Wolves were de-listed by the Trump Administration prior to him leaving office.
In WA this will have no impact on the eastern third of the state since that area had already been de-listed. However, this will impact the western two-thirds of the state that were previously de-listed under the Trump Admin.
https://apnews.com/article/jeffrey-white-environment-and-nature-wildlife-wolves-0961f3065ab154ee693936295c18a5a0
So, you're saying that the whole state of WA had been delisted? I didn't realize that. I thought just the eastern third had been.
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Post by: 2MANY on February 11, 2022, 06:06:59 AM
Post by: Jingles on February 11, 2022, 06:13:16 AM
Post by: Cougeyes on February 11, 2022, 09:57:37 AM
Damn, and I didn't get to take advantage.Yes. Under the Trump Admin decision in January 2021 wolves were delisted in all of WA, OR, and CA.A US District Court Judge in Oakland stated that "U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service had failed to show wolf populations could be sustained in the Midwest and portions of the West without protection under the Endangered Species Act." Wolves were de-listed by the Trump Administration prior to him leaving office.
In WA this will have no impact on the eastern third of the state since that area had already been de-listed. However, this will impact the western two-thirds of the state that were previously de-listed under the Trump Admin.
https://apnews.com/article/jeffrey-white-environment-and-nature-wildlife-wolves-0961f3065ab154ee693936295c18a5a0
So, you're saying that the whole state of WA had been delisted? I didn't realize that. I thought just the eastern third had been.
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The state of Washington still has them as endangered so regardless of them being delisted statewide Federally, they were protected by the state and there was no hunting season in place for them.
Post by: idaho guy on February 11, 2022, 08:33:51 PM
Post by: bigtex on February 11, 2022, 09:43:47 PM
“Biden administration attorney’s argued FOR the trump rule delisting wolves “ rough quote from the article but that’s surprising in a good way. How do these things always end up being decided in California or on 1 specific judges desk in Missoula? Serious questionIn a matter that effects multiple states you can sue the federal government in any of those states. Within states there may be one or more than one federal court district (WA has two districts, OR, ID, MT have one, CA has 4.)
In this case they chose to sue the federal government in the Northern Dist of California which actually just encompasses the northern coastal counties in CA and actually where there are no wolves. Why did they choose this district? Likely because all of the active judges in this district are Obama appointees. Cases are assigned at random to Judges, you pick the district but a software program randomly assigns the judge in thay district to the case.
Had they sued in the Eastern Dist of CA (where CA wolves are) they would face a mix of liberal and conservative judges. But despite this, the case actually got assigned to a Senior Judge (basically former full-time Judge who has partially retired) who was appointed by GW Bush.
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Post by: bearpaw on February 11, 2022, 09:45:44 PM
“Biden administration attorney’s argued FOR the trump rule delisting wolves “ rough quote from the article but that’s surprising in a good way. How do these things always end up being decided in California or on 1 specific judges desk in Missoula? Serious questionIn a matter that effects multiple states you can sue the federal government in any of those states. Within states there may be one or more than one federal court district (WA has two districts, OR, ID, MT have one, CA has 4.)
In this case they chose to sue the federal government in the Northern Dist of California which actually just encompasses the northern coastal counties in CA and actually where there are no wolves. Why did they choose this district? Likely because all of the active judges in this district are Obama appointees. Cases are assigned at random to Judges, you pick the district but a software program randomly assigns the judge in thay district to the case.
Had they sued in the Eastern Dist of CA (where CA wolves are) they would face a mix of liberal and conservative judges. But despite this, the case actually got assigned to a Senior Judge (basically former full-time Judge who has partially retired) who was appointed by GW Bush.
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:yeah: explained well
Post by: idaho guy on February 12, 2022, 09:51:02 PM
“Biden administration attorney’s argued FOR the trump rule delisting wolves “ rough quote from the article but that’s surprising in a good way. How do these things always end up being decided in California or on 1 specific judges desk in Missoula? Serious questionIn a matter that effects multiple states you can sue the federal government in any of those states. Within states there may be one or more than one federal court district (WA has two districts, OR, ID, MT have one, CA has 4.)
In this case they chose to sue the federal government in the Northern Dist of California which actually just encompasses the northern coastal counties in CA and actually where there are no wolves. Why did they choose this district? Likely because all of the active judges in this district are Obama appointees. Cases are assigned at random to Judges, you pick the district but a software program randomly assigns the judge in thay district to the case.
Had they sued in the Eastern Dist of CA (where CA wolves are) they would face a mix of liberal and conservative judges. But despite this, the case actually got assigned to a Senior Judge (basically former full-time Judge who has partially retired) who was appointed by GW Bush.
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Thanks :tup:
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on May 10, 2022, 09:48:10 AM
Post by: timberfaller on May 10, 2022, 10:23:02 AM
If you've been paying attention since he left office, his true colors have emerged! RINO blood for sure, just like Kissinger, Romney and Cheney! The Swamp runs DEEP!
Post by: zwickeyman on May 10, 2022, 10:42:39 AM
"Not that it matters but I'm sure someone will ask. It was a GW Bush appointed judge." BigTex quote :tup:
If you've been paying attention since he left office, his true colors have emerged! RINO blood for sure, just like Kissinger, Romney and Cheney! The Swamp runs DEEP!
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