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Title: UTAH is almost DUE!
Post by: Flaming Antler Outdoors on February 25, 2022, 05:55:51 PM
Going in with 13 pts  for everything in UTAH, seems like no man land once again. I think I am gonna start cashing out pts and trying to get some good to average hunts because point creep across the west is real and chasing great hunts is all but over. 
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Post by: follow maggie on February 25, 2022, 06:03:12 PM
This is one of the reasons I’m switching to mostly bird hunting.
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Post by: GUscottie on February 25, 2022, 06:53:34 PM
This is one of the reasons I’m switching to mostly bird hunting.

It's not just point creep for me. The "good" hunts are overhyped. I have had the best success on "marginal" hunts.
Title: Re: UTAH is almost DUE!
Post by: follow maggie on February 25, 2022, 06:57:33 PM
This is one of the reasons I’m switching to mostly bird hunting.

It's not just point creep for me. The "good" hunts are overhyped. I have had the best success on "marginal" hunts.

I tend to agree with you. Cost is another big reason for me.
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Post by: grundy53 on February 25, 2022, 07:20:33 PM
I'm in

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Post by: Bigshooter on February 26, 2022, 02:19:24 PM
I'm in for deer and elk.
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Post by: dvolmer on February 26, 2022, 02:44:18 PM
This is one of the reasons I’m switching to mostly bird hunting.

It's not just point creep for me. The "good" hunts are overhyped. I have had the best success on "marginal" hunts.
. Wise words
Title: Re: UTAH is almost DUE!
Post by: Brushbuster on February 26, 2022, 02:50:00 PM
I am planning to put in. Just waiting a few more days. Your hunting license is good for 365 days & if you time it right you only need to buy a hunting license every other yr. If you get lucky & draw, you will need to have a hunting license for the current yr though.

I think there is a huge bubble of guys with 13 pts. I think that is when they changed the appl process so you could apply for 3 species instead of only one so a bunch of guys jumped in. I'm also in this group for Elk/Antelope. There's always the bonus point draw.

That's my take anyhow. Good luck!
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Post by: andrew_in_idaho on February 26, 2022, 06:09:55 PM
I am planning to put in. Just waiting a few more days. Your hunting license is good for 365 days & if you time it right you only need to buy a hunting license every other yr. If you get lucky & draw, you will need to have a hunting license for the current yr though.

I think there is a huge bubble of guys with 13 pts. I think that is when they changed the appl process so you could apply for 3 species instead of only one so a bunch of guys jumped in. I'm also in this group for Elk/Antelope. There's always the bonus point draw.

That's my take anyhow. Good luck!
Won’t work this time around. They’re moving the draw to April/May next year.


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Title: Re: UTAH is almost DUE!
Post by: grundy53 on February 26, 2022, 06:43:44 PM
I am planning to put in. Just waiting a few more days. Your hunting license is good for 365 days & if you time it right you only need to buy a hunting license every other yr. If you get lucky & draw, you will need to have a hunting license for the current yr though.

I think there is a huge bubble of guys with 13 pts. I think that is when they changed the appl process so you could apply for 3 species instead of only one so a bunch of guys jumped in. I'm also in this group for Elk/Antelope. There's always the bonus point draw.

That's my take anyhow. Good luck!
Won’t work this time around. They’re moving the draw to April/May next year.


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Title: Re: UTAH is almost DUE!
Post by: Brushbuster on February 26, 2022, 06:58:44 PM
I am planning to put in. Just waiting a few more days. Your hunting license is good for 365 days & if you time it right you only need to buy a hunting license every other yr. If you get lucky & draw, you will need to have a hunting license for the current yr though.

I think there is a huge bubble of guys with 13 pts. I think that is when they changed the appl process so you could apply for 3 species instead of only one so a bunch of guys jumped in. I'm also in this group for Elk/Antelope. There's always the bonus point draw.

That's my take anyhow. Good luck!
Won’t work this time around. They’re moving the draw to April/May next year.


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Darn! Looks like I'll need to buy 2 yrs in a row. Then back to my every other yr plan.  :tup:
Title: Re: UTAH is almost DUE!
Post by: ShaneTyTrey on February 26, 2022, 09:02:18 PM
Getting drawn in Utah is like a lightning strike or maybe a July snow storm in Phoenix.  In as well but zero expectations!  Utah is a true lotto.
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Post by: cem3434 on February 26, 2022, 09:05:59 PM
Getting drawn in Utah is like a lightning strike or maybe a July snow storm in Phoenix.  In as well but zero expectations!  Utah is a true lotto.

The creep is real. Put in for hunts that take 2 or 3 points less to draw than last year and you might have a chance.
Title: Re: UTAH is almost DUE!
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on February 26, 2022, 09:12:56 PM
Anybody think there is a possibility the current state of the economy lessens demand? I mean inflation is off the charts and everybody seemingly has just a little less to spend


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Title: Re: UTAH is almost DUE!
Post by: cem3434 on February 26, 2022, 09:21:45 PM
Anybody think there is a possibility the current state of the economy lessens demand? I mean inflation is off the charts and everybody seemingly has just a little less to spend


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Nope, it will probably make some double down as they are thinking the same way you are. The number of hunters is up across the west and point creep will continue this year. Most of us that are applying for these hunts aren't living paycheck to paycheck, so I think it will have little to no impact on the number of people who apply. :twocents:
Title: Re: UTAH is almost DUE!
Post by: Flaming Antler Outdoors on February 27, 2022, 09:33:20 AM
 :yeah:
Title: Re: UTAH is almost DUE!
Post by: jstone on February 27, 2022, 12:36:44 PM
Can you buy points now for Utah?
Title: Re: UTAH is almost DUE!
Post by: Flaming Antler Outdoors on February 27, 2022, 06:07:20 PM
I just did my apps today and I believe there was a link for pts only vs Archery, muzz, any weapon options.
Title: Re: UTAH is almost DUE!
Post by: Ironhead on February 27, 2022, 06:22:05 PM
Can you buy points now for Utah?

Yes
Title: Re: UTAH is almost DUE!
Post by: huntnnw on February 28, 2022, 03:14:38 AM
I never swing for the fences in UT hunts. Almost all the elk permits are going to be fantastic hunts unless you are trying to kill 380+ bulls. Im fine hunting lots of elk and a opportunity to kill a 330  or so bull.

Cant draw without applying! I drew book cliffs mule deer with 5 points
Title: Re: UTAH is almost DUE!
Post by: Flaming Antler Outdoors on February 28, 2022, 05:43:16 PM
funny, swing for the fences LOL, swinging is still better odds even if there is one awesome bull tag and a random permit with 1 to 750 odds.  Still better than 20 pts in Washington.  I drew a unit 27 Arizona muzz bull tag with a random odds draw.  You can't win if you don't play, but playing is getting really hard these days :) 
Title: Re: UTAH is almost DUE!
Post by: Alaskan on March 01, 2022, 08:04:09 AM
Putting in for a LE Elk Unit in Utah with 19 points and the newly posted odds have it down to 25%. The point creep is real. Two years ago the odds were 75% to draw this tag. You have to be smart and play the game. Do the research as there are some sleeper units in Utah that are holding some 320-350 bulls with 13-14 points to draw!

Good luck boys!

Bryant
Title: Re: UTAH is almost DUE!
Post by: Bigshooter on March 01, 2022, 08:42:16 PM
Anybody think there is a possibility the current state of the economy lessens demand? I mean inflation is off the charts and everybody seemingly has just a little less to spend


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Anytime the economy goes south apps drop.  If I was to bet I would bet apps drop across the west this year.
Title: Re: UTAH is almost DUE!
Post by: cem3434 on March 01, 2022, 08:54:48 PM
Anybody think there is a possibility the current state of the economy lessens demand? I mean inflation is off the charts and everybody seemingly has just a little less to spend


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Anytime the economy goes south apps drop.  If I was to bet I would bet apps drop across the west this year.

Has the economy went south? I made more money through the bs COVID stuff last year than I've ever made. With all the free government handouts, I don't think anyone (outside of landlords and business owners) has really been hurt in the pocketbook yet. Give it a few more months for inflation to catch up (should really start to hurt after app season) and I bet people start to feel it. From the guys I know that hunt, everyone seems to be all in even though I hope you're right.
Title: Re: UTAH is almost DUE!
Post by: NRA4LIFE on March 01, 2022, 09:24:59 PM
And MT upped the NR point fee from $50 to $100.  This year will be the last I hunt in MT most likely.
Title: Re: UTAH is almost DUE!
Post by: huntnnw on March 01, 2022, 09:42:45 PM
funny, swing for the fences LOL, swinging is still better odds even if there is one awesome bull tag and a random permit with 1 to 750 odds.  Still better than 20 pts in Washington.  I drew a unit 27 Arizona muzz bull tag with a random odds draw.  You can't win if you don't play, but playing is getting really hard these days :)

Ive drawn 3 quality elk tags in WA and none in UT. I have better odds in WA than UT
Title: Re: UTAH is almost DUE!
Post by: Bigshooter on March 02, 2022, 05:14:26 AM
Anybody think there is a possibility the current state of the economy lessens demand? I mean inflation is off the charts and everybody seemingly has just a little less to spend


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Anytime the economy goes south apps drop.  If I was to bet I would bet apps drop across the west this year.

Has the economy went south? I made more money through the bs COVID stuff last year than I've ever made. With all the free government handouts, I don't think anyone (outside of landlords and business owners) has really been hurt in the pocketbook yet. Give it a few more months for inflation to catch up (should really start to hurt after app season) and I bet people start to feel it. From the guys I know that hunt, everyone seems to be all in even though I hope you're right.
Stock markets are down close to or over 10% so far this year.  People aren't going back to jobs they quit because of covid and unemployment benefits have ran out.  Read an article the other day that most of the people that haven't returned to work are mostly women and they have no plans of returning back to work.  So that's going to cause a lot of family's going from 2 incomes to 1.  Gas prices are getting bad and are only going to continue to get worse.  BBB sounds like it's dead so no more covid checks coming.  And inflation is driving the price of a lot of things up.  Maybe it will be a couple more months before people really feel it but I know a few guys that are already not planning to go out of state this year because of what they think gas prices will be by this fall.
Title: Re: UTAH is almost DUE!
Post by: grundy53 on March 11, 2022, 07:23:45 AM
Getting drawn in Utah is like a lightning strike or maybe a July snow storm in Phoenix.  In as well but zero expectations!  Utah is a true lotto.
It's pretty easy to get drawn in Utah.  I've been drawn the last 2 years. You just have to put in for general season deer.

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Post by: jstone on March 16, 2022, 11:22:19 AM
What is the last day to buy a point
Title: Re: UTAH is almost DUE!
Post by: HAGEMANIAC on April 19, 2022, 07:59:44 PM
Seems like it's getting late, I'd of thought we'd have results by now!
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Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 19, 2022, 08:27:39 PM
Seems like it's getting late, I'd of thought we'd have results by now!
you're a month early still
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Post by: HAGEMANIAC on April 19, 2022, 08:30:47 PM
Seems like it's getting late, I'd of thought we'd have results by now!
you're a month early still

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Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 19, 2022, 09:30:26 PM
Seems like it's getting late, I'd of thought we'd have results by now!
you're a month early still
classic  :chuckle:
Title: Re: UTAH is almost DUE!
Post by: BeerBugler on May 10, 2022, 09:20:57 AM
Anyone have their card hit yet? Really wanted results before finalizing Nevada today.
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Post by: baldopepper on May 10, 2022, 10:48:45 AM
Was just down in Utah for a few days staying with a brother who is a very active hunter, gets out and about a lot.  Warned that the drought has really changed some areas and really knocked the numbers of big game down in some units.  It's bad in the south and central part of the state. He honestly thinks they should have reduced permit numbers more than they did.
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Post by: BeerBugler on May 10, 2022, 01:35:29 PM
Ok, did he get a charge on his credit card……
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Post by: baldopepper on May 10, 2022, 01:44:11 PM
Ok, did he get a charge on his credit card……
no-didn't put in this year. Area we've hunted for years  is critically low on deer this year. But nephew who put in says no card hit yet
Title: Re: UTAH is almost DUE!
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on May 12, 2022, 11:39:10 AM
Apparently they’re hitting cards now


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Title: Re: UTAH is almost DUE!
Post by: grundy53 on May 12, 2022, 12:00:43 PM
Nothing for me yet.

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Title: Re: UTAH is almost DUE!
Post by: grundy53 on May 12, 2022, 03:06:30 PM
Just got pending charges for a general season deer tag.

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Title: Re: UTAH is almost DUE!
Post by: huntnnw on May 13, 2022, 09:08:47 AM
Late rifle elk for me
Title: Re: UTAH is almost DUE!
Post by: SnakeEyes on May 13, 2022, 12:14:24 PM
Looks like my dad drew West Desert Vernon Muzzy Buck. He will be 75 years old this hunting season.
Title: Re: UTAH is almost DUE!
Post by: huntnnw on May 13, 2022, 12:37:55 PM
Looks like my dad drew West Desert Vernon Muzzy Buck. He will be 75 years old this hunting season.

Tag I apply for , will be interested in how it turns out
Title: Re: UTAH is almost DUE!
Post by: SnakeEyes on May 13, 2022, 12:49:26 PM
Looks like my dad drew West Desert Vernon Muzzy Buck. He will be 75 years old this hunting season.

Tag I apply for , will be interested in how it turns out

I will let you know. Good luck on your hunt.
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Post by: Brushbuster on May 13, 2022, 05:35:20 PM
Just got my email from Utah. "Unsuccessful" all around! Better luck to everyone!
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Post by: Ridgerunner on May 13, 2022, 05:50:05 PM
I struck out too
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Post by: go4steelhd on May 13, 2022, 05:52:25 PM
Swing and a miss 8)
Title: Re: UTAH is almost DUE!
Post by: Flaming Antler Outdoors on May 13, 2022, 06:11:47 PM
Looks like my dad drew West Desert Vernon Muzzy Buck. He will be 75 years old this hunting season.

AWESOME TAG, congrats!   Good glassing unit, you will likely do spot and stalk. Lots of deer.  Your dad will have fun.
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Post by: carpsniperg2 on May 13, 2022, 06:26:09 PM
I cant find my draw results and didnt get any email? when I go to drawing history there is nothing for 2022? I applied and have my receipt and checked my card and got billed. So doesn't look like I was even in draw? Does everyone else's draw history show 2022 apps in there?
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Post by: andrew_in_idaho on May 13, 2022, 06:29:30 PM
I cant find my draw results and didnt get any email? when I go to drawing history there is nothing for 2022? I applied and have my receipt and checked my card and got billed. So doesn't look like I was even in draw? Does everyone else's draw history show 2022 apps in there?
Same boat here


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Title: Re: UTAH is almost DUE!
Post by: huntnnw on May 13, 2022, 06:35:43 PM
Those are not on site. I just got my email. My wife was around 2pm. They may not show until late tonight still
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Post by: carpsniperg2 on May 13, 2022, 06:37:16 PM
Crazy. I could see them not showing up if just credit card hits were popping up but if they sent out the emails then by all means they should be showing up? Might be a bug? Redraw? Or they can just give me the bull tag I was hoping for lol
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Post by: time2hunt on May 13, 2022, 07:49:39 PM
Just got my unsuccessful email :(


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Title: Re: UTAH is almost DUE!
Post by: huntnnw on May 13, 2022, 09:02:51 PM
Emails take awhile to get out to everyone, like this every year. Last 2 years my wife had gotten one hours before me
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Post by: HAGEMANIAC on May 13, 2022, 09:04:31 PM
Unsuccessful on all....
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Post by: carpsniperg2 on May 13, 2022, 11:45:46 PM
Just got mine. No luck for me.
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Post by: cem3434 on May 14, 2022, 06:56:30 AM
Nada for the wife and myself.
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Post by: Halo on May 14, 2022, 09:47:27 AM
Nothing for me.
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Post by: ShaneTyTrey on May 14, 2022, 10:12:00 AM
We struck out as well.
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Post by: Bigshooter on May 14, 2022, 10:18:27 AM
Nothing for my dad or I.
Title: Re: UTAH is almost DUE!
Post by: grundy53 on May 15, 2022, 12:44:15 PM
Still haven't received an email. But still have a pending charge so no news is good news.

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Title: Re: UTAH is almost DUE!
Post by: grundy53 on May 15, 2022, 12:56:22 PM
Nevermind. It was in my spam folder. Drew a general muzzy deer tag.

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Title: Re: UTAH is almost DUE!
Post by: Brushbuster on May 15, 2022, 01:06:15 PM
Drawing NR tags is Christmas coming early for hunters! Congrats!!  :tup:
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