Post by: ACCUBOND on February 27, 2022, 07:33:37 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on February 27, 2022, 07:39:39 PM
Post by: Bone collector 13 on February 27, 2022, 07:45:10 PM
Post by: ACCUBOND on February 27, 2022, 07:45:46 PM
Post by: ACCUBOND on February 27, 2022, 07:51:17 PM
Post by: Stein on February 27, 2022, 09:37:11 PM
Some states have point creep, WA has point falling off the cliff at light speed.
The poor guy with 35 points in 2020 that didn't draw Wenaha did pick it up in 2021, so he's no longer in the game. :chuckle:
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on February 28, 2022, 08:23:27 AM
Post by: duckmen1 on February 28, 2022, 08:52:51 AM
The quality of the experience has certainly dropped. Speaking mostly to goat rocks and adams. Only know carlton from others report and not my own boots. Every couple years someone will catch one that crosses the trail and ends up with 3 cows in a drainage on the west side and that is what has kept the hunt alive for the past decade. Part of a quality hunt imo, is seeing ample animals and healthy herds passing on a few and waiting for that special one, or having the freedom to know you can likely fill a tag with a lesser animal at the tail end of your hunt. Not spending an entire season for a glimpse of a couple critters that may or may not be a "quality". I dont like that they cut it, but it likely saved alot of high points holders tons of frustration. Aside from a very few that know the areas intimately and have some success, their is simply not enough animals and certainly not enough big animals to justify a quality tag.
I wasted several general seasons being talked into hunting in one of those areas during general season.Sure there are animals. But if I could take those seasons back and hunt how and where I would have liked too and not the area I was brought to I would. Those seasons I had crazy number of bulls located elsewhere. But was talked into going there as it was a place of the past. Very low density of elk. Felt more like hiking then hunting. I don't feel its a quality hunt. In my opinion if they want the extra permit then put it on bull catagory. But wouldn't put in for that either.
Post by: ACCUBOND on February 28, 2022, 10:19:43 AM
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Post by: steeleywhopper on March 03, 2022, 09:44:51 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on March 03, 2022, 10:55:26 AM
Is there a link to this information about the upcoming seasons permits?its on the WDFW website, it’s just hard to find, if I can find the link I’ll post it.
Post by: trophyhunt on March 03, 2022, 11:00:51 AM
Post by: dvolmer on March 03, 2022, 12:09:24 PM
https://wdfw.wa.gov/sites/default/files/about/regulations/filings/2022/WSR%2022-04-103.pdf
They have literally destroyed Washington elk hunting in less than 5-7 years.
Post by: Meathunter06 on March 03, 2022, 12:39:51 PM
You can thank the Indian's for that! Just have to have that jerky :hunt2:https://wdfw.wa.gov/sites/default/files/about/regulations/filings/2022/WSR%2022-04-103.pdf
They have literally destroyed Washington elk hunting in less than 5-7 years.
Post by: Stein on March 03, 2022, 12:41:19 PM
Heck, the quality tag I would want to draw only had 10 tags last year, down from 134 only 5 years ago! This is an area with zero development, can't blame urban creep.
At 12% draw odds with 23 points, I'll put my raffle ticket in the NM bucket.
Let's face it, quality tags are now OIL if you are lucky (and have 20-30+ points) except WDFW lets a guy keep paying every year. If you are just starting, just drew or have a handful of points, it's the same odds as the best trophy out of state draw tags. :dunno:
Post by: trophyhunt on March 03, 2022, 02:13:29 PM
Post by: NRA4LIFE on March 03, 2022, 02:31:23 PM
Post by: bigmacc on March 03, 2022, 02:58:28 PM
Pretty discouraging after 20 years that the hunting thrill of your life would be to draw a deer permit. A bull permit to me now is OIL, as I will not even participate after that.Yep, its an absolute shame what the WDFW(we don't have a game department anymore) have done or let happen to most of the once historic and healthy herds in this state and IMHO it started as soon as the switch happened to the WDFW back in the 90,s, after that, management of our herds as anything even close to a priority was only a memory, big game herds have now taken a backseat to everything from frogs, lizards and raptors all the way to their darlings, predators, specifically the wolf. In my opinion and in others I know, our herds are basically being managed now days to support predators, whether it be by their territory expansion or by concentration of their numbers and their growth, anyway you look at it, predators need food sources wherever they are to support their numbers, growth of #,s and their expansion. I don't have to tell any of you, when those arnt happening or are threatened, we as hunters will loose our opportunities before their darlings(predators) will......And yes, like others on here, I am plenty old enough to remember when we had a Game Department, our herds were priority 1 for hunters... :twocents:
Post by: huntnnw on March 07, 2022, 10:26:44 PM
If they want to move it to the bull permit instead of quality, I get that, but don’t eliminate it for bs reasons.
all "bull" permits should be eliminated what a scam! its harder to draw than quality. they all need to be listed under quality nobody is forcing you to apply for them.
Post by: huntnnw on March 07, 2022, 10:30:08 PM