Post by: steeleywhopper on March 03, 2022, 11:41:22 AM
Post by: hunter399 on March 03, 2022, 11:50:54 AM
In 30 cal sst will give a little bit better BC for a 30 cal bullet.
I've also used it in 7mm mag .
I want to say if your under 2900 velocity they work just fine.
If your over 2900 velocity they can be a little explosive.
Of course shot placement is always key. For punching holes in ribs there great. Shoulder shots maybe not the greatest.
With all that said ,All the animals I've shot with them did die.
Some sooner than other depending on shot placement.
They do work,is there better bullets ,you bet .
They will get the job done ,if you do your part.
Post by: ellensburgpo on March 03, 2022, 11:53:40 AM
Superformance is the ammunition line, not the bullet. I believe there are different bullets within the Superformance line, the SST is probably the most common. Is that the bullet you're asking about?
If you are talking about the sst specifically it is the best deer bullet I’ve ever used if shot into soft tissue, ie broadside into chest cavity. It is the worst bullet I’ve ever used if it encounters muscle or bone. I’ve shot at least two dozen deer with sst’s fwiw. Amazing accuracy out of the rifle I used it in. I finally moved on and shoot accubond ammo in every hunting rifle I own save the 223. The sst has its place but it has limitations like all bullets, stay within them or enjoy the rodeo that follows exceeding them.
The application I see superperformance ammo being maybe a good idea is if running a short barrel to try and recapture some of the lost velocity. Maybe.
Post by: Brotherman on March 03, 2022, 11:57:10 AM
Superformance® ammunition is loaded with Hornady® V-MAX,® NTX,® SST,® CX,™ and InterLock,® bullets for the ultimate in performance, no matter what the game. 100 - 200 fps faster than standard ammunition.
Post by: hunter399 on March 03, 2022, 12:09:51 PM
From Hornady's website:The CX might be the best bullet in the line.
Superformance® ammunition is loaded with Hornady® V-MAX,® NTX,® SST,® CX,™ and InterLock,® bullets for the ultimate in performance, no matter what the game. 100 - 200 fps faster than standard ammunition.
I believe that's the all copper bullet.
Post by: HillHound on March 03, 2022, 01:02:32 PM
Post by: steeleywhopper on March 03, 2022, 03:07:13 PM
I appreciate all the information :tup:
Post by: dewandgin on March 03, 2022, 03:11:02 PM
1. First elk shot broadside about 150 yds small 5 point bull dropped where he stood and the shot placement was tight to the front shoulder. Almost a 2 ft blood shot circle :o
thought maybe we smacked a rib straight on.
2. Second elk, large cow, shot at 225 yds broadside tight to front shoulder but no shoulder blade. Almost whole side of the elk bloodshot.
Used what we had left for target practice and to sight in new scopes, etc and gave the rest away.
Shoot Accubonds now and over 15 elk and moose and deer and no issues.
Post by: MADMAX on March 03, 2022, 03:11:11 PM
Accubonds
Hard to find in 130 grain for my 270 WSM though
Post by: hunter399 on March 03, 2022, 03:17:21 PM
Well it looks like this might have to be a round that I try out this next season.It's a good round..👍
I appreciate all the information :tup:
Even the deer in my aviator was shot with an sst in the shoulder. Went 20 yards ,with the one leg not working ,fell over dead.
Post by: Sneaky on March 03, 2022, 03:42:42 PM
Post by: ASHQUACK on March 03, 2022, 06:52:17 PM
Post by: Dan-o on March 03, 2022, 07:02:47 PM
I've shot probably 5 deer and 3 elk with them.
No issues at all.
I don't punch shoulders.
If I did, I'd want something more stout.
Post by: hunter399 on March 03, 2022, 07:07:15 PM
As is ELDX is to accubond.
These two company are at major competition.
That's just my opinion ,I've used all four that I mention above with success.
Post by: hunter399 on March 03, 2022, 07:14:02 PM
Hornady Superformance 162 grain SST's shoot really well out of my 7MM Rem Mag.Yup that was what I was using also .....
I've shot probably 5 deer and 3 elk with them.
No issues at all.
I don't punch shoulders.
If I did, I'd want something more stout.
162 grain SST behind 70 something grain of h1000.
Post by: Damnimissed on March 03, 2022, 07:16:01 PM
I consider SST and nosler BT pretty much equal.
As is ELDX is to accubond.
These two company are at major competition.
That's just my opinion ,I've used all four that I mention above with success.
ELD-X is nothing like an AccuBond, fyi.
Post by: Taco280AI on March 03, 2022, 07:44:57 PM
I am curious to know where and for what application does the Hornady SST bullet shine?
They're useful for putting in a weight bag to counter balance NVGs when night flying. Or can just put them in the garbage, either works.
Post by: NRA4LIFE on March 03, 2022, 07:52:45 PM
Post by: Taco280AI on March 03, 2022, 08:10:47 PM
I've used soft, thin jacketed polymers in the past, but after having one blow about a foot size hole in the side of a quartering away deer, never used them again. Found nothing but fragments, no damage on the far side. Perfect broadside through ribs, no problem, but I'm not going to count on getting that perfect broadside shot. Had a similar shot with an Accubond and it broke about 5 ribs, went across the body, broke the off shoulder, then exited.
Post by: hunter399 on March 03, 2022, 08:29:47 PM
Your right ,totally different bullet design and construction.I consider SST and nosler BT pretty much equal.
As is ELDX is to accubond.
These two company are at major competition.
That's just my opinion ,I've used all four that I mention above with success.
ELD-X is nothing like an AccuBond, fyi.
But at the end of the day that's hornadys version,ect,ect, patant compliment of what they can do to compete with nosler.
Interlock rings,accubond, it's all patent protected,Of course these bullets are not same.
I get it ,accubond are the best,and most expensive ,and low supply high demand bullet. That's not to say the same harvest can't be done with other brands.
I still stick with it equal both have positive and negative of each other.
If it wasn't for the competition between Nosler,hornady,we wouldn't be having this conversation. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: jasnt on March 07, 2022, 06:48:08 AM
Post by: headshot5 on March 07, 2022, 07:08:59 AM
Post by: Bareback on March 07, 2022, 07:11:37 AM
This seems to be another Ford vs Chevy debate.
I shoot both and like both.
Post by: theleo on March 07, 2022, 01:20:01 PM
The Nosler competition with the ELD-X is the Accubond Long Range. Oranges to oranges in their line ups, the direct competitor to the Accubond is Hornady's Interbond.Your right ,totally different bullet design and construction.I consider SST and nosler BT pretty much equal.
As is ELDX is to accubond.
These two company are at major competition.
That's just my opinion ,I've used all four that I mention above with success.
ELD-X is nothing like an AccuBond, fyi.
But at the end of the day that's hornadys version,ect,ect, patant compliment of what they can do to compete with nosler.
Interlock rings,accubond, it's all patent protected,Of course these bullets are not same.
I get it ,accubond are the best,and most expensive ,and low supply high demand bullet. That's not to say the same harvest can't be done with other brands.
I still stick with it equal both have positive and negative of each other.
If it wasn't for the competition between Nosler,hornady,we wouldn't be having this conversation. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
I doubt anyone will confuse the performance of the Interbond with that of the ELD-X just as Accubond fans won't confuse their performance with the Long Range version.
Post by: jrebel on March 07, 2022, 01:39:49 PM
My sentiments Taco. I've seen some real damage done by polymer tips in general when shot placement was not perfect. Never used or loaded them myself. But I'm a bit old school. But, OH MY, I'm testing Bergers and Accubonds for this year. I blame Jrebel.
Accubonds are one of the best bullets on the market as for consistently devastating and accurate. They don't dynamite (excluding AB LR's...garbage) and they don't destroy have the animal with blood shot....assuming you don't hammer shoulders on a regular basis.
SST's, in my opinion are good for deer sized game or smaller and you do not want to hit big bones. They dynamite and you run the risk of not getting good penetration.
I'm not a fan at all of the ELDX at all as I have seen extremely inconsistent performance. Again...for deer sized game, probably plenty sufficient. I have shot two moose and a bear with them and won't hunt with them again. The accubonds on a moose....well that was pretty impressive. :tup:
As for the bergers.....don't put that evil on me Ricky Bobby!!! I steer clear of those debates. :chuckle:
I will say that thus far the Hammer Hunters have proven to be very devastating on game. I now load 4 rifles with them. They are accurate, tough as nails, don't do a ton of meat damage and thus far have proven to be consistent. Still only two kills, so the proof will be in the pudding this year. We will be hunting with Hammer Hunters and Accubonds this year.
Back to the original question......SST's have their place for deer sized game or smaller. They are probably great for target practice.
Post by: HawkCreek on April 22, 2022, 08:32:56 PM
Post by: hunter399 on April 22, 2022, 09:11:47 PM
I've loaded a bunch sst for the ar10 in 308.
Little lower velocity than a standard bolt gun.
If I use that for hunting than I'll find out.
Post by: tgomez on April 27, 2022, 06:29:42 PM
Post by: Dan-o on April 27, 2022, 08:49:17 PM
I shoot Hornady Supeformance SST in 150 grain out of my Browning X-Bolt Stalker Long Range. I get 3,103 FPS and .82" groups at 100 yards. I shot a black bear at 370 yards and a Whitetail buck at 340 yards last fall. Anything I have shot with this round has died on impact, the rounds are devastating on game. I've shot them on steel targets out to 660 yards, they are fast and lazer accurate. I won't buy any other factory ammo now except Hornady Supeformance in GMX.
Is that a deer or a juvenile moose?
Post by: tgomez on April 28, 2022, 02:20:03 AM
Post by: hunter399 on April 28, 2022, 04:57:47 AM
I shoot Hornady Supeformance SST in 150 grain out of my Browning X-Bolt Stalker Long Range. I get 3,103 FPS and .82" groups at 100 yards. I shot a black bear at 370 yards and a Whitetail buck at 340 yards last fall. Anything I have shot with this round has died on impact, the rounds are devastating on game. I've shot them on steel targets out to 660 yards, they are fast and lazer accurate. I won't buy any other factory ammo now except Hornady Supeformance in GMX.Said at the top you use SST
Then at the bottom it's GMX
SST is traditional cup and core ,red tip,interlock.
GMX is a solid copper of gliding solid copper bullet.
So which one do you use.
They might offer both in the Super performance line up,and they look exactly the same.
Two different bullets.
Post by: HntnFsh on April 28, 2022, 05:30:59 AM
I shoot Hornady Supeformance SST in 150 grain out of my Browning X-Bolt Stalker Long Range. I get 3,103 FPS and .82" groups at 100 yards. I shot a black bear at 370 yards and a Whitetail buck at 340 yards last fall. Anything I have shot with this round has died on impact, the rounds are devastating on game. I've shot them on steel targets out to 660 yards, they are fast and lazer accurate. I won't buy any other factory ammo now except Hornady Supeformance in GMX.
Is that a deer or a juvenile moose?
That buck is definitely a tank. Looks like its a good thing it didnt go over the hill. The SSTs obviously work well for you tgomez! Nice critters!
Post by: hunter399 on April 28, 2022, 05:58:25 AM
I agree ,nice animals ,looks like he is using the right bullet.I shoot Hornady Supeformance SST in 150 grain out of my Browning X-Bolt Stalker Long Range. I get 3,103 FPS and .82" groups at 100 yards. I shot a black bear at 370 yards and a Whitetail buck at 340 yards last fall. Anything I have shot with this round has died on impact, the rounds are devastating on game. I've shot them on steel targets out to 660 yards, they are fast and lazer accurate. I won't buy any other factory ammo now except Hornady Supeformance in GMX.
Is that a deer or a juvenile moose?
That buck is definitely a tank. Looks like its a good thing it didnt go over the hill. The SSTs obviously work well for you tgomez! Nice critters!
Post by: tgomez on April 30, 2022, 03:44:56 PM
I shoot Hornady Supeformance SST in 150 grain out of my Browning X-Bolt Stalker Long Range. I get 3,103 FPS and .82" groups at 100 yards. I shot a black bear at 370 yards and a Whitetail buck at 340 yards last fall. Anything I have shot with this round has died on impact, the rounds are devastating on game. I've shot them on steel targets out to 660 yards, they are fast and lazer accurate. I won't buy any other factory ammo now except Hornady Supeformance in GMX.Said at the top you use SST
Then at the bottom it's GMX
SST is traditional cup and core ,red tip,interlock.
GMX is a solid copper of gliding solid copper bullet.
So which one do you use.
They might offer both in the Super performance line up,and they look exactly the same.
Two different bullets.
Yes I am aware they are two different bullets. I never said I use GMX, I said I would only buy GMX other than SST.
Post by: tgomez on April 30, 2022, 04:07:23 PM
I agree ,nice animals ,looks like he is using the right bullet.I shoot Hornady Supeformance SST in 150 grain out of my Browning X-Bolt Stalker Long Range. I get 3,103 FPS and .82" groups at 100 yards. I shot a black bear at 370 yards and a Whitetail buck at 340 yards last fall. Anything I have shot with this round has died on impact, the rounds are devastating on game. I've shot them on steel targets out to 660 yards, they are fast and lazer accurate. I won't buy any other factory ammo now except Hornady Supeformance in GMX.
Is that a deer or a juvenile moose?
That buck is definitely a tank. Looks like its a good thing it didnt go over the hill. The SSTs obviously work well for you tgomez! Nice critters!
Thank you gentlemen. Yes, I didn't want him to make it back in the thick brush. The buck was feeding in a little opening just long enough to get prone and take a solid shot off of the bipod.