Post by: bankwalker on March 13, 2022, 08:51:49 PM
Post by: C-Money on March 14, 2022, 06:25:00 AM
Post by: birddogdad on March 14, 2022, 08:31:03 AM
Post by: phildobaggins on March 14, 2022, 08:33:48 AM
yes, 20 GA with 3" 1 5/8 #9 TSS good to 60 yards once you get a good pattern/ right choke and gun setup but my standard is 40yds to setup for the shot. never had one get away inside of 60.
:yeah: I've never used a 12 gauge on a turkey. I always use my 20 gauge or my bow :tup:
Post by: B0wman on March 14, 2022, 09:33:29 AM
Same with a bow.
Post by: phildobaggins on March 14, 2022, 09:40:03 AM
People get way too hung up on and rely on ‘more and bigger’. 20 will work fine with the right load, as will as other small gauges.
Same with a bow.
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Post by: birddogdad on March 14, 2022, 09:43:20 AM
yes, 20 GA with 3" 1 5/8 #9 TSS good to 60 yards once you get a good pattern/ right choke and gun setup but my standard is 40yds to setup for the shot. never had one get away inside of 60.
:yeah: I've never used a 12 gauge on a turkey. I always use my 20 gauge or my bow :tup:
i walk a lot of mountains for turkeys, carrying a 5# 20 ga is very nice compared to a heavy 12 ga .. this was my reason to downsize with TSS for sure.. many semi's are now in that 5# class, i run a red dot, .555 tss choke tube, and specialty outdoor rubber sling is my setup.
Post by: washingtonmuley on March 14, 2022, 10:12:29 AM
Post by: GWP on March 14, 2022, 10:14:59 AM
People get way too hung up on and rely on ‘more and bigger’. 20 will work fine with the right load, as will as other small gauges.
Same with a bow.
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Post by: salish on March 14, 2022, 10:41:45 AM
Post by: GWP on March 14, 2022, 10:46:47 AM
Post by: bankwalker on March 14, 2022, 11:31:49 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on March 14, 2022, 12:06:32 PM
Post by: HillHound on March 14, 2022, 12:27:48 PM
20 gauge?! Heck .410 and tss is scary good. I recently picked up a little rossi tuffy turkey for my son and with red dot its under 4lb. Amazing pattern out to 60 yards.Wow 60 yards with a 410! That’s got to be with the TSS loads and choke right? I also started my son and wife hunting turkeys with the 20 gauge and take it often myself over the 12 even if they aren’t going. As everyone will tell you it’s all about knowing your pattern and effective range. Shoot you could take a 10 gauge out and not know your pattern and Karl’s gonna be more deadly with his 410 than your gonna be with the 10 gauge at any range
Post by: birddogdad on March 14, 2022, 01:08:15 PM
From what I have read on TSS, it is even harder than Hevi-Shot. Does the manufacturer suggest that tight of a choke? I have seen barrels hammered out from ‘hard shot’.
simply = yes, but shot size is restricted in those ultra tight tubes.. smaller ok larger not.. clear on manf. instructions... 9TSS hits like 4 lead at 40yds.. density is high and energy is maintained.. kind of like tossing a baseball and wiffleball same initial velocity.. impact energy is much higher with first..TSS is no joke and with 9shot size, you clear like 3x the number of pellets for same round which means pattern density is much higher too. still only takes a couple pellets in the kill zone even for that tiny size pellet. they will break bones out there~!
Post by: salish on March 14, 2022, 01:39:52 PM
From what I have read on TSS, it is even harder than Hevi-Shot. Does the manufacturer suggest that tight of a choke? I have seen barrels hammered out from ‘hard shot’.
I hope so. I didn't think about this until after I bought the choke (cause I didn't know there was a potential issue). It's a model from Jeb's Chokes. I've looked at the literature, at their website, and can find no info on this topic of concern. I've called them and left a voice mail two weeks ago but haven't heard back. I also left an email on their site and never heard back. Likewise, I posted a message on their FB page and never heard from them. It's been two weeks. Really crappy customer service. I regret buying from them and now wish I would have bought one from a competing company.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on March 14, 2022, 02:16:41 PM
yeah tss. Probably should have lead with that :chuckle:20 gauge?! Heck .410 and tss is scary good. I recently picked up a little rossi tuffy turkey for my son and with red dot its under 4lb. Amazing pattern out to 60 yards.Wow 60 yards with a 410! That’s got to be with the TSS loads and choke right? I also started my son and wife hunting turkeys with the 20 gauge and take it often myself over the 12 even if they aren’t going. As everyone will tell you it’s all about knowing your pattern and effective range. Shoot you could take a 10 gauge out and not know your pattern and Karl’s gonna be more deadly with his 410 than your gonna be with the 10 gauge at any range
Post by: Dan-o on March 14, 2022, 03:29:47 PM
yeah tss. Probably should have lead with that :chuckle:20 gauge?! Heck .410 and tss is scary good. I recently picked up a little rossi tuffy turkey for my son and with red dot its under 4lb. Amazing pattern out to 60 yards.Wow 60 yards with a 410! That’s got to be with the TSS loads and choke right? I also started my son and wife hunting turkeys with the 20 gauge and take it often myself over the 12 even if they aren’t going. As everyone will tell you it’s all about knowing your pattern and effective range. Shoot you could take a 10 gauge out and not know your pattern and Karl’s gonna be more deadly with his 410 than your gonna be with the 10 gauge at any range
I mean, even Karl can hit them with tss.
(Sorry. Been too long.)
Post by: lewy on March 14, 2022, 05:36:33 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on March 14, 2022, 05:44:51 PM
Post by: Limhangerslayer on March 14, 2022, 07:06:08 PM
Karl doesn’t kill turkeys, just pretends he does!yeah tss. Probably should have lead with that :chuckle:20 gauge?! Heck .410 and tss is scary good. I recently picked up a little rossi tuffy turkey for my son and with red dot its under 4lb. Amazing pattern out to 60 yards.Wow 60 yards with a 410! That’s got to be with the TSS loads and choke right? I also started my son and wife hunting turkeys with the 20 gauge and take it often myself over the 12 even if they aren’t going. As everyone will tell you it’s all about knowing your pattern and effective range. Shoot you could take a 10 gauge out and not know your pattern and Karl’s gonna be more deadly with his 410 than your gonna be with the 10 gauge at any range
I mean, even Karl can hit them with tss.
(Sorry. Been too long.)
Post by: Karl Blanchard on March 14, 2022, 07:11:11 PM
Post by: lewy on March 14, 2022, 07:24:17 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on March 14, 2022, 07:30:53 PM
Karl I just ordered my daughter one of those little Rossi shottys, did you run the factory choke options?yes sir. It will come with a modified and an extra full.
Post by: duckmen1 on March 14, 2022, 08:01:00 PM
Karl doesn’t kill turkeys, just pretends he does!yeah tss. Probably should have lead with that :chuckle:20 gauge?! Heck .410 and tss is scary good. I recently picked up a little rossi tuffy turkey for my son and with red dot its under 4lb. Amazing pattern out to 60 yards.Wow 60 yards with a 410! That’s got to be with the TSS loads and choke right? I also started my son and wife hunting turkeys with the 20 gauge and take it often myself over the 12 even if they aren’t going. As everyone will tell you it’s all about knowing your pattern and effective range. Shoot you could take a 10 gauge out and not know your pattern and Karl’s gonna be more deadly with his 410 than your gonna be with the 10 gauge at any range
I mean, even Karl can hit them with tss.
(Sorry. Been too long.)
Love the TSS. Few years back in the fall I went on a hunt and brought the over under 410 along. Improved cylinder and modified chokes. I got a lot of trash talk at me for bringing it. But after shooting at 4 turkeys throughout the week and bringing them all back to camp no one had another thing they could say about it. I still love my .410 for hunting all birds. It's all about learning the gun you have. And TSS shot is no joke.
Post by: Russ McDonald on March 15, 2022, 01:09:52 AM
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Post by: bearpaw on March 15, 2022, 06:18:51 AM
Anyone using a 20g for turkey? If so. What is the realistic shot range with turkey specific ammo.
I've seen quite a few 20 gauges used for turkey and I've seen quite a few birds taken, I've also seen birds wounded that have not been recovered. The key take away is that you need to have a quality extra full turkey choke tube and pattern the gun so you know the effective range because every gun/choke/ammo combination shoots different.
Generally speaking, most 20's are good for 30 yards with a turkey choke and lead turkey loads, a few will shoot reliably at 40 yards, but not many.
With TSS and a TSS choke tube in the same gun you usually get 10 to 20 yards or more range. Most 20's will shoot 40-50 yards or more with TSS shot and choke, of course you need to pattern your gun in advance so you know this is true with your gun. I regularly tell people with TSS any 20 will shoot like a 12 gauge, actually probably even better than a 12 with regular turkey loads!
You can get turkey choke tubes for most guns on Amazon more affordably than most places and they seem to have a pretty good supply on hand compared with other sources. If you aren't sure what to get I'll be glad to offer advice, feel free to send me a message.
If you want to spend the extra money for TSS cartridges you also need to get a TSS specific choke tube to be safe.
BTW - Get your ammo now, it's very hard to find turkey ammo again this year.
Post by: Jason78 on April 21, 2022, 03:14:00 PM
Smoked a bird at 45yds with 26" barrel, factory full choke, Heavy shot 3".
Smoked 3-4 with a Moss Y 500 20ga, 18" barrel, moss turkey choke, Win long beard 3". It's current limit is 40yds but I have a Jebs Choke and some TSS coming in the mail very soon to test.