Post by: Bullkllr on March 18, 2022, 12:25:07 PM
Interesting if you have time. Discussing deer seasons right now.
Some of the Commissioners really seem anxious to lay the wood to the WDFW bios. Seems almost antagonistic, imo.
Post by: Ghost Hunter on March 18, 2022, 02:03:09 PM
Post by: Bullkllr on March 18, 2022, 02:22:38 PM
Duck and dive on the drop in herd numbers, but won't speak 'predator' in the narrative.
:yeah: It's obvious- "Don't ask questions about predators, but question everything else"
Ragen is getting sheep and goats confused...
Post by: buckfvr on March 18, 2022, 02:40:44 PM
Post by: Bullkllr on March 18, 2022, 04:27:57 PM
I'm expecting some interesting questions from the Comms on this one.
Post by: hunter399 on March 18, 2022, 04:35:41 PM
Was busy ,then seen it was on ,only watched like ten minutes of the deer and talking about APR are not going to help WT in northeast .
Watched the entire Elk part.
Some of it seems ok,some doesn't.
What's the deal with these hoof rot permits.
Seems like an quality governor tag to me .
I don't know the units very well on quality.
Bull tag for Sept 1 -DEC 31 seems like a good amount of time to find the elk.
Post by: bkaech on March 18, 2022, 07:05:10 PM
I did watch about half of it.
Was busy ,then seen it was on ,only watched like ten minutes of the deer and talking about APR are not going to help WT in northeast .
Watched the entire Elk part.
Some of it seems ok,some doesn't.
What's the deal with these hoof rot permits.
Seems like an quality governor tag to me .
I don't know the units very well on quality.
Bull tag for Sept 1 -DEC 31 seems like a good amount of time to find the elk.
I am not too sure about the hoof rot permits, but I know someone who had a hoof rot permit this past year, he was a master hunter and had to turn in all 4 hooves of the animal he harvested with it. The animal HAD TO HAVE HOOF ROT, I'm not sure of the repercussions.
Post by: HntnFsh on March 18, 2022, 07:38:18 PM
For the M.H. permits, they said that if their wasnt a very concerted effort to target hoof rot animals that the permit may not be offered again.
The letter I got after submitting the hooves from my elk said 129 of the 142 sets submitted were hoof rot. I would guess there were probably a few that had other issues that resembled hoof rot, but werent.
Post by: hunter399 on March 18, 2022, 08:26:05 PM
I did watch about half of it.
Was busy ,then seen it was on ,only watched like ten minutes of the deer and talking about APR are not going to help WT in northeast .
Watched the entire Elk part.
Some of it seems ok,some doesn't.
What's the deal with these hoof rot permits.
Seems like an quality governor tag to me .
I don't know the units very well on quality.
Bull tag for Sept 1 -DEC 31 seems like a good amount of time to find the elk.
I am not too sure about the hoof rot permits, but I know someone who had a hoof rot permit this past year, he was a master hunter and had to turn in all 4 hooves of the animal he harvested with it. The animal HAD TO HAVE HOOF ROT, I'm not sure of the repercussions.
I had one of the M.H. hoof rot permits. From what I remember anybody that shot an elk with hoof rot and submitted the hooves were entered into the drawing. Didnt have to be a M.H. permit to qualify.
For the M.H. permits, they said that if their wasnt a very concerted effort to target hoof rot animals that the permit may not be offered again.
The letter I got after submitting the hooves from my elk said 129 of the 142 sets submitted were hoof rot. I would guess there were probably a few that had other issues that resembled hoof rot, but werent.
I just figured those permits would be either sex,durring a regular elk season. That's all.......
Not saying the elk from the permits didn't have hoof rot.
that way when you see an elk durring your regular season in bad shape ,limping or whatever ,you would just harvest that.
Didn't realize you had four months to shoot a bull.
Post by: HntnFsh on March 19, 2022, 06:36:49 AM
I did watch about half of it.
Was busy ,then seen it was on ,only watched like ten minutes of the deer and talking about APR are not going to help WT in northeast .
Watched the entire Elk part.
Some of it seems ok,some doesn't.
What's the deal with these hoof rot permits.
Seems like an quality governor tag to me .
I don't know the units very well on quality.
Bull tag for Sept 1 -DEC 31 seems like a good amount of time to find the elk.
I am not too sure about the hoof rot permits, but I know someone who had a hoof rot permit this past year, he was a master hunter and had to turn in all 4 hooves of the animal he harvested with it. The animal HAD TO HAVE HOOF ROT, I'm not sure of the repercussions.I had one of the M.H. hoof rot permits. From what I remember anybody that shot an elk with hoof rot and submitted the hooves were entered into the drawing. Didnt have to be a M.H. permit to qualify.
For the M.H. permits, they said that if their wasnt a very concerted effort to target hoof rot animals that the permit may not be offered again.
The letter I got after submitting the hooves from my elk said 129 of the 142 sets submitted were hoof rot. I would guess there were probably a few that had other issues that resembled hoof rot, but werent.
I just figured those permits would be either sex,durring a regular elk season. That's all.......
Not saying the elk from the permits didn't have hoof rot.
that way when you see an elk durring your regular season in bad shape ,limping or whatever ,you would just harvest that.
Didn't realize you had four months to shoot a bull.
I dont think anybody has yet. So far nothing has come of it. Although I hear there will be a drawing next month for those that submitted hooves from an infected elk.
Post by: Bullkllr on March 19, 2022, 08:03:41 AM
https://tvw.org/video/washington-fish-and-wildlife-commission-2022031222/?eventID=2022031222 (https://tvw.org/video/washington-fish-and-wildlife-commission-2022031222/?eventID=2022031222)
Post by: ironbuck on March 19, 2022, 11:17:48 AM
Post by: Bullkllr on March 19, 2022, 11:45:15 AM
One of the big points is over-predation; It'll be interesting to see where that goes.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on March 19, 2022, 01:47:21 PM
Post by: Ghost Hunter on March 19, 2022, 01:55:19 PM
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Post by: JakeLand on March 20, 2022, 11:17:22 AM
Post by: idahohuntr on March 20, 2022, 11:24:11 AM
The agenda of the new commissioners was on display in full glory today. Micro manage WDFW for the benefit of the predator advocates and screw the staff’’s work. We will need more help from the tribes. The Umatillas may have laid some groundwork today. Subtle, but it was there. Make the newbies think hard before they vote in a way that negatively impacts the Umatilla’s First Food cycle. I expect there to be more involvement by the tribes around the state.100%. I was hoping for a little more of a direct approach from CTUIR; but I think it will come. We've already had some Tribal managers call out the absurdity of a few of these commissioners.
Post by: Bullkllr on March 20, 2022, 11:36:45 AM
Post by: buckfvr on March 20, 2022, 11:54:37 AM
I think getting rid of the gov and attorney gen would go a long ways toward wdfw overhaul. Get the politics out, eliminate special interest groups because special interest means agenda and conflict of interest.
Also, purge politics by way of term limits. Treat politicians like normal citizens. Social Security and oslamacare, no perks, no special treatment, no free cafeteria, nothing.
Post by: bearpaw on March 20, 2022, 01:21:44 PM
Post by: bigtex on March 20, 2022, 01:48:46 PM
Many years ago, I was told by a Puyallup elder that if you took the tribal vote away from any governor he would not be governor. Look how close the last election was, and how many tribal votes are there in this state ? Just sayingThe last governor election was a landslide for Inslee. Biggest margin in 20 years...
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Post by: MtnMuley on March 20, 2022, 03:13:37 PM
Many years ago, I was told by a Puyallup elder that if you took the tribal vote away from any governor he would not be governor. Look how close the last election was, and how many tribal votes are there in this state ? Just sayingThe last governor election was a landslide for Inslee. Biggest margin in 20 years...
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......and that was the scary part.