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Title: How often are you drawn?
Post by: Dansk on May 11, 2009, 11:47:49 AM: I just started playing the application slot machine for trophy tags accross many of the western states. Curoius to know how many different states/tags/species you all apply for each year and, generally speaking, how often are you drawn?
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: boneaddict on May 11, 2009, 11:57:40 AM: I apply to almost all of them, though the list is shrinking, and so far about one per year. The states without points, I seem to be the luckiest in.
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: NRA4LIFE on May 11, 2009, 12:17:24 PM: CO elk, WI Bear, MT deer, WA everything except goat. Never been drawn in CO or WA for anything. CO I just put in for the points to someday draw a specific tag. MT about every other year on average. I seem to be kind of on the unlucky side with them all.
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: WDFW-SUX on May 11, 2009, 12:24:03 PM: I apply for 50-60 hunts per year and Ive not drawn anything but bear tags that I consider top shelf hunts. Im looking long term on my apps though and really only apply for the best of the best. Im a very patient person. Im counting on some great hunts in about 25 years...

In the mean time Im locked in on some of the better OTC stuff in Idaho.
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: Bigshooter on May 12, 2009, 09:43:23 AM: I apply in almost all of the western states, and the only tag I have drawn was a toutle bull tag.
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: boneaddict on May 12, 2009, 09:47:24 AM: In the last 5 years I have drawn
Archery elk Bull
Washington Moose
Idaho Moose
(put in and had Dad draw the next year)
AK moose (can't remember if that one was draw or OTC) seems like I drew.
NM Premier elk
Wife drew modern elk big bull
Dad drew Modern elk big bull
I drew modern elk Bull
Washington Methow deer/rut tag
Montana deer and elk combo,
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: HoofsandWings on May 12, 2009, 10:01:46 AM: In the past 10 years or so I have drawn,
WA goat
WA sheep
WA moose
Entiat deer rut
Toutle bull
Blues spring bear
Blues turkey
plus doe, cow, and
misc turkey permits
Every couple of years, I get drawn for something. Last year I was particularly lucky with bear, turkey and bull permits.
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: WDFW-SUX on May 12, 2009, 10:05:43 AM: :bs:
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: boneaddict on May 12, 2009, 10:14:09 AM: :chuckle:
Didn't we have a guy last year that picke dup all three OIL tags in one year, or maybe he had two and an elk.....
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: NRA4LIFE on May 12, 2009, 10:20:16 AM: Yes, I believe he had a goat and moose OIL tags and a St. Helen's elk or somewhere near there. All DIY's too if I remember. He took a real nice goat.

Went back and looked and it was Alpinegus. Goat, Moose and Pumice Plains Elk. That's a lot of meat.
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: HoofsandWings on May 12, 2009, 12:49:48 PM: Quote from: WDFW-SUX on May 12, 2009, 10:05:43 AM
:bs:
I guess it was 12 years.
1996 goat
1999 sheep
2002 moose
2004 entiat deer
2008 bear, elk and turkey
These were all DIY, although a passerby helped haul out the moose.
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: Bigshooter on May 12, 2009, 03:42:47 PM: Almost forgot I drew Montana deer and elk this year. Maybe my luck is changing. Maybe...............
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: WDFW-SUX on May 12, 2009, 03:59:09 PM: That really cool. I wish i had your luck :dunno:
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: norsepeak on May 12, 2009, 04:16:33 PM: drawn bull tags in wa a couple of times but other than that, I seem to go 0 for about 5-6 states every year :bash:
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: MIKEXRAY on May 12, 2009, 04:26:14 PM: I get drawn every three years for archery any bull. 3 times in ten years. I don't put in for the best area though. Mike
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: Hillbilly270 on May 12, 2009, 04:34:12 PM: haven't been drawn since i started 5 yrs ago :bash: :bash: guess i should try and go after something with a little better odds.
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: BLKBEARKLR on May 12, 2009, 04:36:32 PM: I have drawn the Tok sheep hunt in Alaska first time I ever put in for it, Wife and I both drew Entiat sheep tags in Alaska and now we have both drawn multi season deer tags .

This is since 2000 but we have only put in for them once
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: PolarBear on May 12, 2009, 05:14:00 PM: 24 years of sheep, moose and goat apps and not a single tag. Depending on how my blood tests come back, I might throw my 30 points into the hat for an elk permit.
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: actionshooter on May 12, 2009, 10:56:08 PM: "How often are you drawn"

Not nearly enough :bash:

Sent in the applications for Wa tonight. :)
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: huntnphool on May 12, 2009, 11:16:19 PM: 10 of the last 13 years in Montana, 3 late muley buck tags, 3 archery elk bull tags, a multi deer tag and a moose tag.
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: Craig on May 12, 2009, 11:38:27 PM: Since 2001

1 Wa buck permit
2 Wa bull permits
4 montana deer and elk combo license.
2 Montana antelope tags

so far for 2009

1 Montana deer and elk combo
1 Utah Limited entry elk permit
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: 6x6in6 on May 13, 2009, 02:19:33 PM: Jeeez, I got think on this one, some of which I know were before points began in some states.
Elk
WA, '97 and now eleven points and not drawn since but over half the years were points only.
OR, every other year success since started in '02.
ID, 84, 87, 92, 98, 01
MT, 83, 85, 88, 96, 00, 04 and 05
WY, 86, 90, 02 and now in 09
UT, 82 and 93 and I so desperatly want to go back again!!!!!!!
CO, 95 and 99
NM, 89, 94, 03
AZ, 86 and 91

I'll have to look for sure when I get home but I'm fairly certain I have max points available in UT and AZ with max points gone for WY with this years draw. The rest that have point systems I have the points starting the year following I was there. UT, AZ are annual automatic in the draw. I usually pick 1-2 others also, except this year thanks to WY draw.

Deer
Max points in WY and WA.

Moose
13 pts in WA
Don't remember how many but a bunch of points in WY.

State game dept's love my $$$$!!!!!! :chuckle:
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: rosscrazyelk on May 13, 2009, 07:21:22 PM: I have only been drawn once.. That was for deer.
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: JBar on May 13, 2009, 07:45:01 PM: Been drawn here for elk 3 times and once for deer, not including multi season. My 15 yr old son has been hunting since he was 9 and has had 3 deer permits, 1 elk and 1 multi season for deer and 1 multi season for elk. He's gone one year without some sort of permit, lucky little sh*t! I figure he'll be drawn for Bighorn before I am.
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: alecvg on May 13, 2009, 07:50:52 PM: I am 15, been hunting since I was 8, I have drawn a deer tag EVERY year and 2 elk tags... they have all been youth tags, but still...
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: Ridgerunner on May 13, 2009, 08:42:38 PM: Since I started applying in 95 in this state I've drawn the following:
1 late mule deer permit
1 big bull tag
1 moose tag
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: TeacherMan on May 13, 2009, 08:51:39 PM: Quote from: PolarBear on May 12, 2009, 05:14:00 PM
24 years of sheep, moose and goat apps and not a single tag. Depending on how my blood tests come back, I might throw my 30 points into the hat for an elk permit.

30 points?
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: WAcoueshunter on May 13, 2009, 09:05:40 PM: 6x6 has got some good hunts coming! With those points in those states, it better be 8x8in8 by the time you're done! :chuckle: Seriously, you've been hunting all over the west since you were like 20. I'm guessing there's a lot of us that wish we would have started applying elsewhere back then. I'm 34 and started getting serious about points in WA and AZ about 10 years ago...wish I would have had the $$ and foresight to start all the other states then too.

Anyway, I've drawn a couple primo tags and a handful of good/average tags. The best were a NM 16A archery bull tag in 2006 and an AZ late rifle coues tag in 2004. I'm on the cusp of AZ archery elk (10 points) and another late rifle coues tag (6 points going on 7), but those are my only realistic opportunities in the next couple years unless I get lucky.
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: Falcon on May 13, 2009, 09:27:29 PM: 84 Pratt river goat
90 green river deer
93 Dickey bull
99 naches goat
2001 Pearrygin late buck
2004 west okanagon whitetail
2009 Matheny bull

I have built points from day 1, and consider myself lucky, especially with 2 mtn goats behind my belt. Hoping for sheep and moose before I croak ! :chuckle:
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: WAcoueshunter on May 13, 2009, 10:37:33 PM: Don't mean to hijack, but Falcon, was wondering how that Green River tag was? Was looking at the raffle choices tonight and remembered the Hunt-Wa member who drew the raffle blacktail tag. Sounds like his hunt wasn't going well last I remembered. You got me thinking that maybe we should have directed him to Green River. My cousin drew that tag about the same time as you, and the story I remember was that he saw a number of good bucks in there. He shot a nice 3 pt., maybe 95" or so. Anybody else hunt it more recently?
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: bobcat on May 13, 2009, 10:46:10 PM: I think the Green River GMU was the only one the raffle winner was not permitted to hunt.
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: WAcoueshunter on May 13, 2009, 10:52:06 PM: Ahh. That sucks! With the late buck hunt, seems like that's the one raffle tag that doesn't do you a whole lot of good unless you can access good areas that don't otherwise get hunted much. Of course, still would be nice to hunt with a rifle in late November / early December.
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: Scottystyle on May 13, 2009, 10:54:31 PM: This is my 20th aniversary for moose sheep, and goat in Washington, and deep down i know i will probably never be drawn... but hey.. consistency is everything right??? Ive drawn exactly 2 doe tags, and 2 cow elk tags in those years. Is there anyone in the WDFW i can become friends with??? Oh yeah, Ive also got 4 points for moose in Colorado, but this poor man cant shell out 70 bones for a bonus point anymore.
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: bobcat on May 13, 2009, 10:55:02 PM: Westside deer was the only raffle ticket I bought. Not because I think it's the only one worth having, but only because it is the least popular and I figured with my very limited funds, I would go for the one with the best odds. I guarantee if I drew that tag I wouldn't let it go to waste.
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: huntnphool on May 13, 2009, 11:47:33 PM: Quote from: alecvg on May 13, 2009, 07:50:52 PM
I am 15, been hunting since I was 8, I have drawn a deer tag EVERY year and 2 elk tags... they have all been youth tags, but still...

Right on Alec, keep us posted on this years tags
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: mossback91 on May 13, 2009, 11:53:07 PM: Not often enough! :)
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: bowhunterforever on May 14, 2009, 12:07:16 AM: Quote from: mossback91 on May 13, 2009, 11:53:07 PM
Not often enough! :)
:yeah:
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: shanevg on May 14, 2009, 07:40:24 AM: I've drawn:
1 WA Deer (any deer youth tag)
1 WA Elk (cow tag)
1 NM Elk - archery

10 points for WA sheep, 9 for goat and moose, 5 for elk, and 7 for deer in WA. Also 1 point for WY elk, deer, antelope.
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: Ray on May 14, 2009, 08:35:31 AM: My friend had me convinced for years that I would never get drawn. What was the point spending extra cash to go into a draw which I would never win? I spent the last 4-5 years applying and have not been drawn for any special permits. I am beginning to think he was right.
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: jackelope on May 14, 2009, 08:41:00 AM: it all comes down to what you put in for.
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: Ray on May 14, 2009, 08:44:29 AM: I often put in for doe permits and antlerless elk permits as well as a few spring bear permits.
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: rougheye on May 14, 2009, 08:47:50 AM: Quote from: jackelope on May 14, 2009, 08:41:00 AM
it all comes down to what you put in for.

Thats right , i only have 2 Elk points so im puttin in for an easier draw , If i dont get drawn i get more picky each year . I just cant wait 10 years or more to get drawn and i hate huntin the wet side . Ive been drawn for branch bull 3 times and deer twice . 10 points for sheep , moose and goat .
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: HoofsandWings on May 14, 2009, 03:08:39 PM: FYI. Don't forget about turning in poachers, etc.
They are worth 10 points applied to any species.
I know a guy that got 20 points that way.
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: Dansk on May 14, 2009, 05:44:10 PM: Quote from: HoofsandWings on May 14, 2009, 03:08:39 PM
FYI. Don't forget about turning in poachers, etc.
They are worth 10 points applied to any species.
I know a guy that got 20 points that way.

Hmm.... I think you're on to something H&W. Maybe I should hunt for poachers with my vid cam every year instead of hunting deer/elk. I'm bound to draw sweet tags every three years if I'm going in with 20-30 points (= 400 to 900 ENTRIES!!! :yike:).... I mean how hard would it be to find 2-3 poachers over a two year period? :rolleyes: Hmmmmm......
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: Dansk on May 14, 2009, 05:49:52 PM: Quote from: WAcoueshunter on May 13, 2009, 10:37:33 PM
Don't mean to hijack, but Falcon, was wondering how that Green River tag was? Was looking at the raffle choices tonight and remembered the Hunt-Wa member who drew the raffle blacktail tag. Sounds like his hunt wasn't going well last I remembered. You got me thinking that maybe we should have directed him to Green River. My cousin drew that tag about the same time as you, and the story I remember was that he saw a number of good bucks in there. He shot a nice 3 pt., maybe 95" or so. Anybody else hunt it more recently?

I often hijack my own threads :chuckle: (autoterrorism? :dunno:)
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: fc2038 on May 14, 2009, 05:50:12 PM: lets see I have drawn 2 tags in the last 12 years. Toutle bull two years ago and Late Grayback tag 11 years ago. Haven't drawn Wyoming deer or elk yet. I drew a couple Oregon tags. No Colorado tags and on goes the list...
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: huntnphool on May 15, 2009, 10:31:30 AM: Thats funny Dansk :chuckle:
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: lamar_hunter on May 15, 2009, 02:06:46 PM: got one cow tag in 03. never filled it. 3 deer permits. plus one multi season deer.
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: SkookumHntr on May 15, 2009, 02:41:41 PM: --I have applied for elk every year since I was 10 and have never drawn. Im 27 now. Ive never drawn anything else either. Sure is nice to hear about guys drawing my units with like 3 pts or other guys that have like 30 pts and only been applying a few years. >:(
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: Ironhead on May 16, 2009, 07:16:31 AM: 99-09 WA -Elk 10pts- Deer 11pts-Moose 10 pts-Goat 10 pts-Sheep 10 pts Never drawn a premium tag in Wa.
99-09 ID -drawn Antelope in 2001 and 2006 Elk 2004
99-09 AZ- drawn unit 8 Archery Elk - 10 pts for Deer
04-09 CO- 4pts Deer and Elk
07-09 WY- 2 pts Deer and Elk
99-09 NM -drawn 52 archery Elk tag 2002 and 2B Archery Deer tag 2003
03-09 UT- 5 pts Elk- 3 pts Moose- 1 pt deer
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: Slow-1 on May 20, 2009, 01:48:56 PM: What I want to know how is it the drawing "random"? I ask because two different guys I know have drawn all three oil tags since they started the point system.The odds are you will never draw any of the oil tags,and yet some people at minimum of 500to1 draw all three I can't even calculate the odds on that.If you look at the responses so far most people don't draw anyting or tags that are easy to get ,then some people draw stuff constantly,And they call it "random " ;).Sorry I'm venting it's just frustrating 25 years for sheep,goat, and moose, and nothing. Don't get me wrong I put in every year after all someone has to win.I think I feel a little better :).
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: rackattack on May 20, 2009, 02:18:25 PM: Quote from: Slow-1 on May 20, 2009, 01:48:56 PM
What I want to know how is it the drawing "random"? I ask because two different guys I know have drawn all three oil tags since they started the point system.The odds are you will never draw any of the oil tags,and yet some people at minimum of 500to1 draw all three I can't even calculate the odds on that.If you look at the responses so far most people don't draw anyting or tags that are easy to get ,then some people draw stuff constantly,And they call it "random " ;).Sorry I'm venting it's just frustrating 25 years for sheep,goat, and moose, and nothing. Don't get me wrong I put in every year after all someone has to win.I think I feel a little better :).

I feel your frustration. It's is a very funny system for being so "random". The group I hunt with has a couple very lucky guys that hit pretty often, and the rest of us draw nothing. I've often wondered if it has certain WILD ID numbers that the computer system likes. :dunno: Like you said though, someone has to win. Good luck to all.
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: SkookumHntr on May 20, 2009, 02:53:58 PM: -- I dont mind when I hear people drawing great tags when they have been applying as long as I have, im happy for them and hope they get a masher bull, its the people that draw these tags with hardly any points is what pisses me off and hearing of guys with 30 pts or guys that drew 2 years ago and now have almost as many points as me again that really piss me off! I think that poacher points thing needs to go! :twocents:
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: skybusterbo on May 20, 2009, 03:19:48 PM: Never ever ever in Washington. :'( 10pts. deer and elk, 8 for moose,goat,sheep. Been drawn for Oregon many times in the past 10 or so years for deer and elk and 1 spring bear. Have 10pts. for Oregon antelope. Dad and I drew Wyoming elk once with 1 point. Just buying points for Kansas deer-4pts.
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: Pathfinder101 on May 20, 2009, 11:41:49 PM: this is my first year seriously tring in other states. MT, NM, and of course WA. Tried ID a couple of years ago for a hot mulie unit, no luck. Doing points for WY.
Next year I may try to get one of the OTC Southeast mulie tags in ID. Need to do some research tho..
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: starbailey on May 27, 2009, 09:18:14 AM: 1997 Washington Cali sheep raffle
1998 Oregon sheep raffle
2000 Wyoming deer tag
2001 Wash goat tag
2001 carlton elk tag
2005 Nevada deer tag
2006 Montana antelope tag
2006 Wash cali sheep tag
2009 WAFNAWS dall sheep hunt raffle
2009 Idaho moose tag
Wow! it looks like a lot of luck, but I apply for all the states that have bighorn tags and for most other species and buy tickets in most all available raffles. I figure I'm in about 40 "draws" a year for a grand total of 480 chances(give or take 10) That's a success rate in the 3% range. I didnt look that lucky when you look at the odds but you have to play the game to get the tags.
Bryan
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: WDFW-SUX on May 27, 2009, 09:20:06 AM: Wow im jealous......... :o
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: starbailey on May 27, 2009, 09:57:25 AM: I do feel very lucky for what I've been able to do. I have a wonderful and supportive wife that understands my passion.
But, I love to see other people have success as some of the best hunts I've been on I didn't have a tag for.
Bryan
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: WDFW-SUX on May 27, 2009, 10:26:43 AM: Do you mind me asking how many raffle tickets you usually purchase?
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: boneaddict on May 27, 2009, 10:37:33 AM: Looks pretty lucky to me. :yike:
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: Machias on May 27, 2009, 03:00:12 PM: I've drawn one fall turkey tag and 2 lion permits. Oh yea and in a few weeks I'll have a fall moose permit. :P
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: huntnphool on May 27, 2009, 03:48:00 PM: :chuckle:
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: starbailey on May 28, 2009, 07:15:50 AM: WDFW-SUX, it only takes one to win!!!!
The part I like about raffles are I know the funds usually are going to the organizations that put money back into those species(FNAWS,DBSS,SCI,etc)
That being said-I won the WASH raffle with a $20 investment then decided to splurge for the OR raffle and sent them $50.
Bryan
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: WDFW-SUX on May 28, 2009, 07:16:41 AM: I hate you ;)

I spent way way too much on raffle tickets last year and made a new years resolution to avoid them this year....
Title: Re: How often are you drawn?
Post by: starbailey on May 29, 2009, 01:06:14 PM: Never to much as the donation goes to a good cause. :)
Bryan