Post by: hunter399 on March 31, 2022, 05:57:51 AM
With the spring bear closing,science based wildlife management.
I was just thinking does most hunters know the numbers.
Where we are are at in terms of harvest.
I wish 2021 numbers would hit,so I can add that.
WDFW you have to go to trends,3 year management plan ,and they only show graphs that they want the Commission to see.
Anyway interpret anyway you like.
I may go ahead and do Elk ,cougar,and some other statewide species.
Just thought some hunters may want to see numbers in terms that we can understand and read.
Post by: hunter399 on March 31, 2022, 06:14:58 AM
All also add these are totals,permits,antlers,anterless,
Pretty much every animal reported to hit the dirt.
Post by: hunter399 on March 31, 2022, 06:30:29 AM
Some reason no data for 2013 or 2014.
Seems are cougar harvest is up compared to prior years and hangs steady at about 300 a year.
Post by: hunter399 on March 31, 2022, 06:40:51 AM
This chart is for you.... :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Anyway no data I could find intell 2017 .
Not sure if we have more turkey hunters or more turkeys.
But here is the chart ,spring,fall,permits,combined.
Every turkey reported to hit the dirt.
Post by: hunter399 on March 31, 2022, 06:44:45 AM
I'm done with charts for the day. :chuckle:
Some variables in there ,bear getting two tags,2020 year of the covid,and 2015 being a rockstar year for deer and elk.
Post by: Born2late on March 31, 2022, 06:58:12 AM
Post by: hunter399 on March 31, 2022, 07:02:04 AM
But all post a link to the harvest report page.
There's is always the human variable that I may of entered data wrong. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
https://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/management/game-harvest#2020-harvest
Post by: GWP on March 31, 2022, 07:04:51 AM
Post by: Ghost Hunter on March 31, 2022, 07:53:19 AM
Post by: hunter399 on March 31, 2022, 08:02:17 AM
My issue with stats is they can be, and frequently are, twisted to fit the narrative. Need all the angles to see the big picture.I agree there any many variables and aspects involed,
Male/female harvest,permit numbers,regulation changes,
"Climate change" ,drought,bad winters,disease/ bluetonge/hoof rot...then human variable number of hunter/covid/gas prices/just things that pop up that cause human behavior change.
I just wanted to make these charts ,with general totals for species for each year.
Such as deer totals I would make charts for mule deer vs whitetail vs blacktail but that don't show each species just female or male.
Post by: pianoman9701 on March 31, 2022, 08:11:25 AM
Post by: GASoline71 on March 31, 2022, 08:44:33 AM
Such as deer totals I would make charts for mule deer vs whitetail vs blacktail but that don't show each species just female or male.
Wonder what the harvest rates for Mulies was like before the state adopted the 3 point minimum for all east side GMU's in 1997. I believe it was in response to the severe winter kills we had in 94, 95 and 96.
Gary
Post by: hunter399 on March 31, 2022, 08:51:16 AM
That's kinda the reason I did these charts,seems every year they add a year and dump a year on .Such as deer totals I would make charts for mule deer vs whitetail vs blacktail but that don't show each species just female or male.
Wonder what the harvest rates for Mulies was like before the state adopted the 3 point minimum for all east side GMU's in 1997. I believe it was in response to the severe winter kills we had in 94, 95 and 96.
Gary
Or something cause they only show data back to 2013 now.
So it would be nice to see a a lot farther back trends.
Post by: GASoline71 on March 31, 2022, 09:07:43 AM
That's kinda the reason I did these charts,seems every year they add a year and dump a year on .Such as deer totals I would make charts for mule deer vs whitetail vs blacktail but that don't show each species just female or male.
Wonder what the harvest rates for Mulies was like before the state adopted the 3 point minimum for all east side GMU's in 1997. I believe it was in response to the severe winter kills we had in 94, 95 and 96.
Gary
Or something cause they only show data back to 2013 now.
So it would be nice to see a a lot farther back trends.
I've tried digging through the WDFW website for stuff prior to 2000 and it's just not there. I got a hold of the WDFW for a records request last year and they told me to try the state archives. When I did that they sent me to another entity that didn't have the info either. Frustrating to say the least.
Gary
Post by: KNOPHISH on March 31, 2022, 09:23:18 AM
Post by: hunter399 on March 31, 2022, 10:06:02 AM
Do you have populations? I’ve heard bear populations around 30k and only 2k killed a year? Plenty for spring hunt without hurting them just hurt leaf lickers feelings. 2015 I killed my last elk :tup:I agree plenty of bears for a spring hunt.
I don't have population numbers.
Just those charts based off of harvest.
Post by: Mossbak on March 31, 2022, 01:25:48 PM
Post by: hunter399 on March 31, 2022, 01:46:24 PM
Some old number's I found searching the internet. I don't know if this will work but here's a link to the article https://mountainlion.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/WA-A-WDFW-1999-Washington-Game-Status-and-Trend-Report.pdf
Oh man ,look at those late 70's ,those was prime years.
That's awesome information,just shows are slowly decline.
About what an average would look like.
Thanks for sharing. :tup:
91 and 92 look like good numbers too ,then it's all downhill from there.
Post by: avidnwoutdoorsman on March 31, 2022, 04:30:12 PM
@ Russ McDonald
This chart is for you.... :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Anyway no data I could find intell 2017 .
Not sure if we have more turkey hunters or more turkeys.
But here is the chart ,spring,fall,permits,combined.
Every turkey reported to hit the dirt.
For 2000->2016
page 2
https://wdfw.wa.gov/sites/default/files/publications/01972/wdfw01972.pdf