Post by: jdb on April 03, 2022, 05:06:23 PM
Post by: Cougartail on April 03, 2022, 05:15:18 PM
I’m close to buying my first ar, what’s the general consensus on the most economical entry level rifle?
Ruger MPR is not the cheapest low end rifle but it is the best value by far.
Post by: NRA4LIFE on April 03, 2022, 05:16:51 PM
Post by: Alchase on April 03, 2022, 06:29:45 PM
S&W M&P15 or Ruger AR-556 to buy. Aero and/or PSA parts to build.
:yeah:
or Colt LE6920
https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/modern-sporting-rifles/colt-le6920-ar15-semi-automatic-rifle-91-rounds/p/p42029
Post by: Russ McDonald on April 03, 2022, 06:43:16 PM
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Post by: N7XW on April 03, 2022, 06:54:41 PM
https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-pa15-16-nitride-m4-carbine-556-nato-classic-ar15-rifle-fde.html
https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-10-5-5-56-nato-1-7-nitride-classic-mft-battlink-pistol-black.html
Post by: bustedoldman on April 03, 2022, 06:57:46 PM
Post by: N7XW on April 03, 2022, 07:05:03 PM
I guess I’m too old to figure out how to order one online. Oh well
Pretty easy. Just order and checkout like you would order anything else online. Then get a copy of your FFL's license and send it to them (email). Pretty good chance the place you order from will already have it on file. Then you don't have to do anything. Going thru the checkout process, most sites will walk you thru the process and tell you if they need the FFL or not. Easy peasy.
Post by: Damnimissed on April 03, 2022, 07:05:58 PM
Build your own maybe. Other than my AR 10 I have kept most of mine under $700 and they all shoot good. A mix of Bear Creek or PSA uppers. Lowers have been Anderson, PSA and Areo Precision. I haven't priced out parts latelybut looks like orices have gone up. Just bought a stripped Areo lower for $129.
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https://ar15discounts.com/products/aero-precision-m4e1-stripped-lower-receiver-blem/
Post by: Katmai Guy on April 03, 2022, 07:25:36 PM
Post by: bustedoldman on April 03, 2022, 07:44:30 PM
I guess I’m too old to figure out how to order one online. Oh well
Go into the local gun shop, tell them you want the cheapest complete lower and complete upper they have or can order…..
Post by: Alchase on April 03, 2022, 08:18:55 PM
Building seems complicated.I can’t even order a damned thing
JB, ordering a complete Lower and a complete Upper, leaves only two pins to put them together. Almost like Legos for big boys, :chuckle:
It is that easy!
Still, if you would rather by a new complete rifle, a S&W M&P15 (I have two), Colt 6920 ( I have one), Ruger AR-556, or either of the PSA's listed, would serve you just fine. One of the PSA's " pistol for $460" is a great price, would be wise to understand the differences between the "Rifle" and the "Pistol" version, again fantastic price!
:tup:
It is great to see AR prices coming back down to normal again!
Post by: NRA4LIFE on April 03, 2022, 08:40:16 PM
Building seems complicated.I can’t even order a damned thing
JB, ordering a complete Lower and a complete Upper, leaves only two pins to put them together. Almost like Legos for big boys, :chuckle:
It is that easy!
Still, if you would rather by a new complete rifle, a S&W M&P15 (I have two), Colt 6920 ( I have one), Ruger AR-556, or either of the PSA's listed, would serve you just fine. One of the PSA's " pistol for $460" is a great price, would be wise to understand the differences between the "Rifle" and the "Pistol" version, again fantastic price!
:tup:
It is great to see AR prices coming back down to normal again!
OK, I'm almost 60 And I built my first last year. A couple of you tube videos and some internet searches was all I needed, it was pretty easy (except for one spring/pin detonation). But when I loaded it up and started pulling the trigger it kept going boom. Now my problem is keeping up with reloading for it. They can eat a lot of ammo quickly.
Post by: Russ McDonald on April 04, 2022, 03:05:03 AM
Yeah they detent and spring for the front keeper pin sucks. Put my pistol back together and flung that detent across the room a couple time. Another pin or punch the size of the hole is your friend. Yes even complete uppers and lowers are not that bad in price. Now putting on the fun extra jewelry on the pew pew that is where it gets expensiveBuilding seems complicated.I can’t even order a damned thing
JB, ordering a complete Lower and a complete Upper, leaves only two pins to put them together. Almost like Legos for big boys, :chuckle:
It is that easy!
Still, if you would rather by a new complete rifle, a S&W M&P15 (I have two), Colt 6920 ( I have one), Ruger AR-556, or either of the PSA's listed, would serve you just fine. One of the PSA's " pistol for $460" is a great price, would be wise to understand the differences between the "Rifle" and the "Pistol" version, again fantastic price!
:tup:
It is great to see AR prices coming back down to normal again!
OK, I'm almost 60 And I built my first last year. A couple of you tube videos and some internet searches was all I needed, it was pretty easy (except for one spring/pin detonation). But when I loaded it up and started pulling the trigger it kept going boom. Now my problem is keeping up with reloading for it. They can eat a lot of ammo quickly.
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Post by: jdb on April 04, 2022, 06:10:40 AM
Post by: hunter399 on April 04, 2022, 08:40:35 AM
I thought when everyone said “build” they meant like buy everything separate. I didn’t realize you just bought a separate Lower and upperYa ,you can do it that way ,just two little pins hold it together and snap in place by hand.
Nice to have different calibers in different uppers,snaps together in a half a second.
Post by: bearhunter99 on April 04, 2022, 08:42:36 AM
I thought when everyone said “build” they meant like buy everything separate. I didn’t realize you just bought a separate Lower and upper
You can do it either way. I typically buy the stripped lowers and then build them because I like the drop in triggers and other mods when building the lower. The other benefit to building the lower is a stripped lower is considered "other" not a rife or a pistol until you build it so you don't have to deal with the semi-auto BS. They really aren't hard to build, especially with the drop in triggers. I have about 5 oops kits on hand because when you lose the detent and spring, which you are bound to occasionally, they are gooonnnnne... Having a tool like this pretty much eliminates that problem:
https://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/rifle-tools/pin-tools/ar-15-pivot-pin-tool-prod137500.aspx
I usually buy complete uppers and then upgrade them if I feel I need to. I have had pretty good accuracy out of the box with the complete uppers from Bear Creek Arsenal and from PSA.
Post by: Alchase on April 04, 2022, 09:59:58 AM
Yeah they detent and spring for the front keeper pin sucks. Put my pistol back together and flung that detent across the room a couple time. Another pin or punch the size of the hole is your friend. Yes even complete uppers and lowers are not that bad in price. Now putting on the fun extra jewelry on the pew pew that is where it gets expensiveBuilding seems complicated.I can’t even order a damned thing
JB, ordering a complete Lower and a complete Upper, leaves only two pins to put them together. Almost like Legos for big boys, :chuckle:
It is that easy!
Still, if you would rather by a new complete rifle, a S&W M&P15 (I have two), Colt 6920 ( I have one), Ruger AR-556, or either of the PSA's listed, would serve you just fine. One of the PSA's " pistol for $460" is a great price, would be wise to understand the differences between the "Rifle" and the "Pistol" version, again fantastic price!
:tup:
It is great to see AR prices coming back down to normal again!
OK, I'm almost 60 And I built my first last year. A couple of you tube videos and some internet searches was all I needed, it was pretty easy (except for one spring/pin detonation). But when I loaded it up and started pulling the trigger it kept going boom. Now my problem is keeping up with reloading for it. They can eat a lot of ammo quickly.
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Especially, if you can't make-up your mind!
LPVO or Red-dot, LPVO W/Red Dot, Red Dot with Magnifier, Prism, Prism with Magnifier?
Options get expensive :tup:
At least ammo is getting cheaper.
Post by: mcrawfordaf on April 04, 2022, 10:20:27 AM
I'm a big fan of PSA. Great quality for the price, stand behind their product and just can't beat them for a low cost. Lots of options on their website, here are just a couple. Brand new rifle for $500 or pistol for $460;
https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-pa15-16-nitride-m4-carbine-556-nato-classic-ar15-rifle-fde.html
https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-10-5-5-56-nato-1-7-nitride-classic-mft-battlink-pistol-black.html
PSA is definitely the way to go as far as entry into ARs. They've come leaps and bounds from where they started.
Post by: NRA4LIFE on April 04, 2022, 10:43:41 AM
Post by: Buck Rub Jr on April 04, 2022, 12:15:22 PM
Post by: bigdub257 on April 04, 2022, 12:45:38 PM
I'm a big fan of PSA. Great quality for the price, stand behind their product and just can't beat them for a low cost. Lots of options on their website, here are just a couple. Brand new rifle for $500 or pistol for $460;
https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-pa15-16-nitride-m4-carbine-556-nato-classic-ar15-rifle-fde.html
https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-10-5-5-56-nato-1-7-nitride-classic-mft-battlink-pistol-black.html
PSA is definitely the way to go as far as entry into ARs. They've come leaps and bounds from where they started.
That's a pretty attractive price for a new AR!
Post by: Alchase on April 04, 2022, 02:17:42 PM
I'm a big fan of PSA. Great quality for the price, stand behind their product and just can't beat them for a low cost. Lots of options on their website, here are just a couple. Brand new rifle for $500 or pistol for $460;
https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-pa15-16-nitride-m4-carbine-556-nato-classic-ar15-rifle-fde.html
https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-10-5-5-56-nato-1-7-nitride-classic-mft-battlink-pistol-black.html
PSA is definitely the way to go as far as entry into ARs. They've come leaps and bounds from where they started.
That's a pretty attractive price for a new AR!
Especially for the Pistol :tup:
Post by: N7XW on April 04, 2022, 04:52:58 PM
I'm a big fan of PSA. Great quality for the price, stand behind their product and just can't beat them for a low cost. Lots of options on their website, here are just a couple. Brand new rifle for $500 or pistol for $460;
https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-pa15-16-nitride-m4-carbine-556-nato-classic-ar15-rifle-fde.html
https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-10-5-5-56-nato-1-7-nitride-classic-mft-battlink-pistol-black.html
PSA is definitely the way to go as far as entry into ARs. They've come leaps and bounds from where they started.
That's a pretty attractive price for a new AR!
Especially for the Pistol :tup:
.....it's soooooo tempting :chuckle:
Post by: Special T on April 04, 2022, 05:16:43 PM
:twocents:
Post by: Alchase on April 04, 2022, 06:27:16 PM
Imo with the way winds blow politically buying a stripped lower empty and then an upper and or parts is the way to go. If they want to screw you and take your stuff, give them the lower back.
:twocents:
Good idea!
Post by: N7XW on April 06, 2022, 03:56:25 PM
https://palmettostatearmory.com/blem-psa-pa-15-11-5-carbine-length-5-56-nato-1-7-phosphate-btr-classic-stealth-pistol-w-carry-handle.html
Post by: bigdub257 on April 06, 2022, 05:34:21 PM
https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-pa15-16-nitride-m4-carbine-556-nato-classic-ar15-rifle-fde.html
Now I need a holographic or red dot sight. Any suggestions?
Post by: MADMAX on April 06, 2022, 05:38:04 PM
I may or may not have had temptation as well :chuckle:
https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-mid-length-5-56-nato-1-7-nitride-13-5-lightweight-m-lok-moe-ept-rifle-w-mbus-sight-set3.html
Post by: Alchase on April 06, 2022, 06:03:26 PM
I saw a sig red dot on their site
I may or may not have had temptation as well :chuckle:
https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-mid-length-5-56-nato-1-7-nitride-13-5-lightweight-m-lok-moe-ept-rifle-w-mbus-sight-set3.html
They have a Sig Sauer MCX Rattler 300BLK Pistol w/ ROMEO4T Red Dot Optic, Coyote Tan, but Out of stock!
https://palmettostatearmory.com/sig-sauer-mcx-rattler-300blk-pistol-w-romeo4t-red-dot-optic-coyote-tan-pmcx-300b-5b-tap-coy-rx.html
But that $2400+ Pistol (love the MCX) needs a Eotech EXPS3
https://www.opticsplanet.com/eotech-exps3-extreme-xps-red-dot-sight-with-side-button-qd-lever.html
Post by: bigdub257 on April 08, 2022, 08:26:43 AM
Post by: Alchase on April 08, 2022, 02:28:21 PM
I'm kind of leaning towards the Holosun 510C with the 3x magnifier. Anybody have any experience with this setup? It gets great reviews on several sites.
I have the Holosun HS512C, I put a review of it in the Optics section. I love the reticle!
Would be nice behind a magnifier.
Post by: bigdub257 on April 08, 2022, 03:52:17 PM
Post by: Alchase on April 08, 2022, 04:00:16 PM
Thanks for the review. I read it and sounds you're just as happy with it as many others are. I think I'm gonna pull the trigger on the 510c and 3X magnifier package. Pretty good price point for what you get.
Please reply back with which Magnifier you decide to go with, and how you like it!
As my eyes get older I find that typical Red Dots just are not what I need anymore.
I have a Steiner P4XI 1x4x24 on a different rifle, love that scope. It is fantastic for these tired eyes!
Post by: bigdub257 on April 08, 2022, 05:41:36 PM
Post by: Alchase on April 08, 2022, 08:34:57 PM
I prefer red, but my shooting buddy says green he can see better. When I shoot his green I have a harder time seeing the reticule with a dark background. He says the same thing about my red.
:dunno:
:chuckle: