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Title: New E-Harley
Post by: CP on May 11, 2022, 11:50:55 AM
Looks like fun but I expect it will be another loser.  Pre-production MSRP $17,699, sold out in a few minutes.  Just like most other EVs, buy first, then wait and you really don’t know what you are buying.

Title: Re: New E-Harley
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 11, 2022, 12:35:58 PM
Max speed is 95MPH, producing 101HP a 11,000 RPM. 0-60 in 3 seconds. Weight is 560. Range is 146 Miles. No thanks.
Title: Re: New E-Harley
Post by: CP on May 11, 2022, 01:05:35 PM
I think those specs are for the Livewire One, this one is the S2 Del Mar.  It’s a smaller bike, less range, less hp.  I don’t even think the full specs for it are out yet.  I’m sure Jay Leno signed up for one.

I’d like to see Joe Biden on one, scraping the pegs.  He’s into EVs.
Title: Re: New E-Harley
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 11, 2022, 01:12:30 PM
I think those specs are for the Livewire One, this one is the S2 Del Mar.  It’s a smaller bike, less range, less hp.  I don’t even think the full specs for it are out yet.  I’m sure Jay Leno signed up for one.

I’d like to see Joe Biden on one, scraping the pegs.  He’s into EVs.

They were for the livewire.  :tup:
Title: Re: New E-Harley
Post by: thinkingman on May 12, 2022, 09:43:05 AM
It will never be embraced by HD customer base.

Isn't the whole point of riding a Harley the obnoxious exhaust to get attention?
Title: Re: New E-Harley
Post by: Jpmiller on May 12, 2022, 09:50:29 AM
It will never be embraced by HD customer base.

Isn't the whole point of riding a Harley the obnoxious exhaust to get attention?

My seven and five year old love going "potato potato potato" everytime they see one  :chuckle:
Title: Re: New E-Harley
Post by: Angry Perch on May 12, 2022, 10:54:35 AM
Max speed is 95MPH, producing 101HP a 11,000 RPM. 0-60 in 3 seconds. Weight is 560. Range is 146 Miles. No thanks.

95MPH? Obviously governed, s it could go a heck of a lot faster than that with 101HP.
Title: Re: New E-Harley
Post by: gaddy on May 12, 2022, 11:01:35 AM
Wonder it they have an optional rumble simulator attachment ? Or a seat vibrator ?  :chuckle:
Title: Re: New E-Harley
Post by: bhawley76 on May 12, 2022, 11:37:24 AM
That's a skinny jean man bun magnet right there! Probably comes with a blueberry cotton candy vape pen also!  :chuckle:
Title: Re: New E-Harley
Post by: turkeyfeather on May 12, 2022, 12:01:30 PM
That's a skinny jean man bun magnet right there! Probably comes with a blueberry cotton candy vape pen also!  :chuckle:
I was thinking the same thing. Lol
Title: Re: New E-Harley
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on May 12, 2022, 02:21:48 PM
Yikes.... what's next?  Never mind, that's probably a question I don't want the answer to. 
Title: Re: New E-Harley
Post by: MADMAX on May 12, 2022, 02:53:46 PM
Born to be mild :chuckle:
Title: Re: New E-Harley
Post by: jrebel on May 12, 2022, 03:22:14 PM
After fueling my truck today....where do I find one of these???   :chuckle: :chuckle:  $228 later, I have a full tank. 
Title: Re: New E-Harley
Post by: h20hunter on May 12, 2022, 03:24:52 PM
I guess it's no surprise me saying this ...yes I own a 6.5 creed as well as others but A I think it looks pretty cool and B considering the power to weight ratio I could easily forsee bikes being full ev much sooner than later.
Title: Re: New E-Harley
Post by: BD1 on May 12, 2022, 03:48:57 PM
I agree  :yeah: It wouldn't be my first choice but it could be a lot worse
Title: Re: New E-Harley
Post by: CP on May 12, 2022, 03:53:25 PM
Born to be mild :chuckle:

Nothing mild about E-motos.  You should try one.  Make sure that you have a good grip before you open the throttle.
Title: Re: New E-Harley
Post by: Bullkllr on May 12, 2022, 04:20:34 PM
Can I hunt on it in nonmotorized areas?
Title: Re: New E-Harley
Post by: MADMAX on May 12, 2022, 05:14:50 PM
Born to be mild :chuckle:

Nothing mild about E-motos.  You should try one.  Make sure that you have a good grip before you open the throttle.

Harley ride, rumble and look is what made the big twins unique
If I wanted a crotch rocket I’d have bought one
Title: Re: New E-Harley
Post by: CP on May 12, 2022, 06:00:36 PM
Born to be mild :chuckle:

Nothing mild about E-motos.  You should try one.  Make sure that you have a good grip before you open the throttle.

Harley ride, rumble and look is what made the big twins unique
If I wanted a crotch rocket I’d have bought one

Well, there’s no rumble.  Just a whirr, or just the sound of the tires rolling, the wind, people talking on the sidewalks, birds chirping, it’s a quiet ride.  Look at the speedo and you’re going a whole lot faster than you realized.  It's not for everyone.   
Title: Re: New E-Harley
Post by: wadu1 on May 12, 2022, 06:18:16 PM
Born to be mild :chuckle:

Nothing mild about E-motos.  You should try one.  Make sure that you have a good grip before you open the throttle.

Harley ride, rumble and look is what made the big twins unique
If I wanted a crotch rocket I’d have bought one

Well, there’s no rumble.  Just a whirr, or just the sound of the tires rolling, the wind, people talking on the sidewalks, birds chirping, it’s a quiet ride.  Look at the speedo and you’re going a whole lot faster than you realized.  It's not for everyone.   
Well you could always clip on playing/baseball cards :dunno:
Title: Re: New E-Harley
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on May 12, 2022, 06:35:26 PM
Dude, I was like cool, buzzing my new EV hog into Sturgis with all the other mid-life homeys and they were like ______________, can you believe that?
Title: Re: New E-Harley
Post by: Timberstalker on May 12, 2022, 08:37:23 PM
That would pick up the chicks, with Adam’s Apples.
Title: Re: New E-Harley
Post by: MADMAX on May 12, 2022, 08:50:30 PM
Hey
Gives you something to do while the battery charges  :chuckle:
12 hour charge time
100 mile range
Not bad for $20k
Soy milk anyone ?
Title: Re: New E-Harley
Post by: JakeLand on May 13, 2022, 07:18:08 AM
I guess it's no surprise me saying this ...yes I own a 6.5 creed as well as others but A I think it looks pretty cool and B considering the power to weight ratio I could easily forsee bikes being full ev much sooner than later.
ouch
Title: Re: New E-Harley
Post by: follow maggie on May 16, 2022, 11:50:46 AM
It will never be embraced by HD customer base.


This is a good thing for Harley Davidson. Their customer base is getting older & older with more aging out of motorcycles every year. If they don’t find another customer base in addition to their current one, they’ll be in more trouble than they already are.
Title: Re: New E-Harley
Post by: KFhunter on May 16, 2022, 11:53:34 AM
It will never be embraced by HD customer base.


This is a good thing for Harley Davidson. Their customer base is getting older & older with more aging out of motorcycles every year. If they don’t find another customer base in addition to their current one, they’ll be in more trouble than they already are.

the hipster...
Title: Re: New E-Harley
Post by: GWP on May 16, 2022, 12:17:06 PM
It will never be embraced by HD customer base.


This is a good thing for Harley Davidson. Their customer base is getting older & older with more aging out of motorcycles every year. If they don’t find another customer base in addition to their current one, they’ll be in more trouble than they already are.

This.
HD doubled down on the ‘biker’ image that they helped to foster, and it has not carried over much to the younger generation. Now it is made fun of and almost looked down on.
People have gotten hung up on HD being a V twin, but they also did singles and two strokes, but there again, they doubled down on the V twin OHV set up. The were not the first to do a V twin, either.
It will be interesting to see if they survive. I would guess the ‘Fat Cats’ at the top of the heap are having to re evaluate their ‘big pay’ they have been riding since their ‘boon time’.
Indian came in with a clean slate and was able to leverage it with advancements that have been accepted, and have taken a good part of HD’s share of the market.
Too, HD pissed off a large part of their fan base when they stopped supporting/working on the older stuff. Those are the people that kept them afloat during the ‘rough times’, and I am sure some did not forget it.
Title: Re: New E-Harley
Post by: CP on May 16, 2022, 01:24:45 PM
Well, I’ll probably age out before this S2 Del Mar is readily available.  I should start looking at their $50k mobility scooters.

Title: Re: New E-Harley
Post by: Alchase on May 18, 2022, 06:54:40 AM
Well, I’ll probably age out before this S2 Del Mar is readily available.  I should start looking at their $50k mobility scooters.



I thought that is what trikes are, mobility scooters for Hog riders........ that can't hold up their bikes anymore.
I have heard they come with special hidden Depends pockets  :dunno:

 :chuckle:
Title: Re: New E-Harley
Post by: SeaRun1 on May 18, 2022, 08:45:18 AM
Not a Harley guy but am interested in an electric dirt bike.  The only really viable bike was the Alta.  The rest are really pricy and limited by range.  Range is the big wildcard for me.

SR1
Title: Re: New E-Harley
Post by: CP on May 18, 2022, 09:13:36 AM
Not a Harley guy but am interested in an electric dirt bike.  The only really viable bike was the Alta.  The rest are really pricy and limited by range.  Range is the big wildcard for me.

SR1

Alta is out of business.   There's the Zero FX:

https://www.zeromotorcycles.com/model/zero-fx?gclid=Cj0KCQjwspKUBhCvARIsAB2IYuu_bBshnHbpeglXkPGpZQtBo9DXiAtwQxepo82R-UAKWca_VNh-raoaAnG2EALw_wcB
Title: Re: New E-Harley
Post by: JimmyHoffa on May 18, 2022, 09:17:06 AM
It will never be embraced by HD customer base.


This is a good thing for Harley Davidson. Their customer base is getting older & older with more aging out of motorcycles every year. If they don’t find another customer base in addition to their current one, they’ll be in more trouble than they already are.

This.
HD doubled down on the ‘biker’ image that they helped to foster, and it has not carried over much to the younger generation. Now it is made fun of and almost looked down on.
People have gotten hung up on HD being a V twin, but they also did singles and two strokes, but there again, they doubled down on the V twin OHV set up. The were not the first to do a V twin, either.
It will be interesting to see if they survive. I would guess the ‘Fat Cats’ at the top of the heap are having to re evaluate their ‘big pay’ they have been riding since their ‘boon time’.
Indian came in with a clean slate and was able to leverage it with advancements that have been accepted, and have taken a good part of HD’s share of the market.
Too, HD pissed off a large part of their fan base when they stopped supporting/working on the older stuff. Those are the people that kept them afloat during the ‘rough times’, and I am sure some did not forget it.
I think they were putting too much emphasis on new markets overseas (mostly China).  With China so shaky now, HD is left with only a few options at home.
Title: Re: New E-Harley
Post by: Sandberm on May 18, 2022, 09:26:53 AM
Not a Harley guy but am interested in an electric dirt bike.  The only really viable bike was the Alta.  The rest are really pricy and limited by range.  Range is the big wildcard for me.

SR1

Pricey? You mean like $12,900 pricey for an 80hp Stark Varg?

https://starkfuture.com/products/stark-varg (https://starkfuture.com/products/stark-varg)
Title: Re: New E-Harley
Post by: SeaRun1 on May 18, 2022, 12:00:23 PM
That seems reasonable.  I was thinking about that KTM that was 15k and you needed to buy another 2.5k to get a spare battery.

I rode a couple of weeks ago with a guy on an Alta.  He left after three hours and still had plenty of range. 

I will get one when they get a little more mainstream.

SR1
Title: Re: New E-Harley
Post by: CP on May 18, 2022, 12:14:36 PM
Pacific NW Moto has several Zeros in stock, on their showroom floor, that you can actually look at, sit on, even take on a test ride. 

https://pacificnwmotorcycles.com/Showroom/New-In-Stock-Inventory/New/Zero-Motorcycles
Title: Re: New E-Harley
Post by: Alchase on May 19, 2022, 09:03:09 AM
Born to be mild :chuckle:

Nothing mild about E-motos.  You should try one.  Make sure that you have a good grip before you open the throttle.

Harley ride, rumble and look is what made the big twins unique
If I wanted a crotch rocket I’d have bought one

Well, there’s no rumble.  Just a whirr, or just the sound of the tires rolling, the wind, people talking on the sidewalks, birds chirping, it’s a quiet ride.  Look at the speedo and you’re going a whole lot faster than you realized.  It's not for everyone.   


They can just pipe the sound of a big Twin through the speaker like they did for the Mustang!
 :hello:

 :chuckle:
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