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Post by: Special T on May 17, 2022, 06:59:45 PM
They are pretty tolerant of people when they are not being pursued much. I'm curious how the data would compare in a state with an active hound hunting community
I grew up in hound hunting territory in Skagit county. Lots of dog boxes. We NEVER saw cats. They stayed well away from all things human even in the woods. We see them all the time now, and every area has sightings where they seem the least bit concerned. 1 not as many cats get killed in our area now and we have higher numbers. 2 they have not been conditioned that people and dogs are bad.
I think this study is good, but only necessary because we have to scientifically prove something that people have known for a long time. My hope is that this helps us deal with cats and that a pursuit season only would make people safer.
I wish more tribal guys had the inclination to hound hunt. The abundance of cats and bears would make for some great dogging, and would help everyone beyond compare.
Post by: KFhunter on May 17, 2022, 07:05:41 PM
Up in the NE corner I'm noticing its taking more miles to cut a lion track after first few snows, less deer, less lions.
There's still a ton of lions, but the pop of lions seems to get denser the closer you get to people, farms and deer. Get way back, and it's getting hard to find one!
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Post by: 7t9cobra on May 18, 2022, 05:17:43 PM
I've had a game warden tell me Washington has an estimated 2500 cat statewide. Do you think that is accurate or grossly underestimated? I have to believe it is 3-4 times that at a minimum.
WDFW claims there are approx. 3,000 cougars in WA state. They claimed this at a cougar conflict meeting a couple years back. I found out they do not count tribal land, federal land and any cat under 2 years old. If you do the math on that, it puts the number closer to 10,000 IMO. But they don't want you to know that.
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Post by: MtnMuley on June 04, 2022, 07:30:23 PM
I honestly believe DFW has no way to get counts on bears/lions with any accuracy. :twocents:
Post by: idaho guy on June 04, 2022, 08:18:00 PM
Idaho isn't lacking in lions, even with the wolves, hounds and everyone shooting every predator they come across, I still come across more lions in Idaho. More game, more lions..
Up in the NE corner I'm noticing its taking more miles to cut a lion track after first few snows, less deer, less lions.
There's still a ton of lions, but the pop of lions seems to get denser the closer you get to people, farms and deer. Get way back, and it's getting hard to find one!
My theory on Idaho lions in the panhandle is we would have very few if we weren’t getting the overflow from Washington and some from Montana. Idaho has gone overboard on killing lions in my opinion , but we share a border with a lion factory ha ha. Better predator and game management in Idaho ,so we have more elk and deer, and they just keep coming over to their demise lol. As an Idaho hound guy I guess I should be happy Washington doesn’t effectively manage lions but it still bothers me to see the mismanagement.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on June 04, 2022, 08:49:33 PM