Post by: uncoolperson on May 13, 2009, 07:46:14 PM
so I'm working on making my own.
looking for materials/design/construction ideas.
Post by: ICEMAN on May 13, 2009, 07:49:23 PM
How many pounds is too much?
Post by: jackelope on May 13, 2009, 08:00:24 PM
http://www.bigskyinflatables.com/WM_Models_and_Specs.html
Post by: uncoolperson on May 13, 2009, 09:23:53 PM
watermaster
http://www.bigskyinflatables.com/WM_Models_and_Specs.html
23lbs, and $1100.
the alpacka's are 3 lbs and $700.
I want lighter than that (and a lot cheaper)
Post by: uncoolperson on May 13, 2009, 09:27:06 PM
An Axe and some twine. :dunno:
How many pounds is too much?
I'm looking at <3lbs as a goal (and <$250 in materials [build +test]) If I go the current route.
right now I'm planning on running some tests on some cuben fiber, the ultra light weight hikers love it for just about everything.... need to see if it will suit my needs (something about 0.6 oz sq yard is cool, and unnerving). which would make the thing freakin light.
If I can work out construction and design. (i was happy the other day, remembered that whole water displacement = mass thing, then math got involved and I was really happy).
Post by: jackelope on May 13, 2009, 09:58:42 PM
watermaster
http://www.bigskyinflatables.com/WM_Models_and_Specs.html
23lbs, and $1100.
the alpacka's are 3 lbs and $700.
I want lighter than that (and a lot cheaper)
you were looking for design/construction/ materials ideas. i know how much they cost and how much they weigh.
you might want to have a look at washingtonflyfishing.com there's a fishing craft forum there.
Post by: ICEMAN on May 14, 2009, 03:49:41 AM
Post by: uncoolperson on May 14, 2009, 06:41:21 AM
Wow, under three pounds. Didnt think that was possible. Cool idea, let us see what you learn, thanks.
the curtis raft was apparently sub 2 from what I've been reading. I figure with newer materials and components sub 3 would be a good goal.
(http://www.rei.com/product/785333, almost 3, and doesn't seem to get very good reviews.
Post by: uncoolperson on May 14, 2009, 08:05:05 AM
watermaster
http://www.bigskyinflatables.com/WM_Models_and_Specs.html
23lbs, and $1100.
the alpacka's are 3 lbs and $700.
I want lighter than that (and a lot cheaper)
you were looking for design/construction/ materials ideas. i know how much they cost and how much they weigh.
you might want to have a look at washingtonflyfishing.com there's a fishing craft forum there.
sorry, I thought you meant "go buy one".
I have a thread going there.
Post by: cohoho on May 17, 2009, 09:10:35 PM
Post by: swanny on May 18, 2009, 05:51:38 PM
http://www.rei.com/product/785333 (http://www.rei.com/product/785333)
Post by: uncoolperson on May 18, 2009, 06:35:21 PM
Post by: cohoho on May 18, 2009, 08:49:10 PM
Post by: Alpine Mojo on May 18, 2009, 09:27:59 PM
Post by: uncoolperson on May 18, 2009, 09:59:53 PM
You could always ask Brian for info on materials and how he built his raft. At least get you started in the right direction.
as in curtis?
Post by: Alpine Mojo on May 20, 2009, 06:16:07 PM
Post by: sisu on May 20, 2009, 07:17:47 PM
How about a dozen of those cheap no thrill condoms? :chuckle: They're supposed to be industrial strength. :chuckle: :chuckle:watermaster
http://www.bigskyinflatables.com/WM_Models_and_Specs.html
23lbs, and $1100.
the alpacka's are 3 lbs and $700.
I want lighter than that (and a lot cheaper)
Post by: uncoolperson on May 20, 2009, 07:29:34 PM
How about a dozen of those cheap no thrill condoms? :chuckle: They're supposed to be industrial strength. :chuckle: :chuckle:watermaster
http://www.bigskyinflatables.com/WM_Models_and_Specs.html
23lbs, and $1100.
the alpacka's are 3 lbs and $700.
I want lighter than that (and a lot cheaper)
there's an idea!
Post by: CastleRocker on May 23, 2009, 11:34:53 PM
An Axe and some twine. :dunno:
How many pounds is too much?
That's what we always used to use. Unlash it when you leave. It works very well when the fish are rising just out of reach.
Post by: AlpineMuley on June 02, 2009, 07:01:38 PM
Post by: uncoolperson on June 02, 2009, 07:12:39 PM
the raft is almost done, a few pinholes to find in the seams then add the floor.... taking a break did 4 days straight last week/this weekend.
gonna do a much better job this winter.
Post by: hawksfan75 on June 05, 2009, 11:10:29 AM
This sounds like a fun little project. Any pictures so far?
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on June 05, 2009, 11:16:40 AM
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the raft is almost done, a few pinholes to find in the seams
Photos?
-Steve
Post by: uncoolperson on June 05, 2009, 12:37:38 PM
pictures... it ain't pretty, ain't gonna be, not even sure if it's going to work.
the design should've been solid but my arts and crafts skills are lacking.
Post by: uncoolperson on June 05, 2009, 12:39:27 PM
If you want to stress test it, let me know :P
This sounds like a fun little project. Any pictures so far?
you bring the beer, this couldn't possibly go bad.
Post by: Da stump on June 05, 2009, 01:39:01 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on June 05, 2009, 02:13:57 PM
-S
Post by: uncoolperson on June 05, 2009, 02:41:30 PM
(nice avatar, jack)
Post by: ICEMAN on June 05, 2009, 06:21:26 PM
Post by: uncoolperson on June 09, 2009, 08:12:54 PM
Lessons learned
Alpca, well worth it... costs lots (to me anyway) but an at home build costs some too.
I'm in easy 40+ hours (design/build/fix)
materials were $100, add 40 for aquaseal
$40 R&D materials, 6-pack of beer for R&D
4x take out dinner
additional 4 6packs of beer
add another my guess easy $100 materials and 20 hours build time plus $50-$100 hardware for the next build.
Lessons learned, think through and maybe non permanent mock up the build prior to building... make sure my methods will work.
This proved a problem working out the seal that turns all the flat pieces into tubes, I connected everything together hoping to fold then seal up.... that didn't work had to make those seals in tension rather than shear (I was warned about the seal style, but i was stuck). [see attached image]
Work out a better idea than a piece of wood and a clothing iron, didn't seal the pieces together nicely, fought with that for way too long.
Figure out supply of aquaseal and the fancy accelerator, sure the company's headquarters are in my town.... but they're closed on weekends.
Also, get more brushes, nothing gets it off the one brush in the package.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on March 16, 2010, 06:20:00 AM
http://flyweightdesigns.com/default.aspx (http://flyweightdesigns.com/default.aspx)