Post by: KFhunter on May 27, 2022, 09:23:05 PM
Suitable for grouse head popping?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on May 27, 2022, 09:31:07 PM
I also have the rifle version the CMR 2 of those and they use the same mags and have the same issues. Super accurate and light and compact and I run red dots on them.
Post by: jrebel on May 27, 2022, 09:47:10 PM
Post by: KFhunter on May 27, 2022, 09:54:40 PM
I got the picatinny rail for the slide, and two boxes of different ammo for it.
I plan to go a green dot later as the red dots are a bit starry for me with my astigmatism
Post by: denali on May 27, 2022, 10:02:06 PM
Post by: b23 on May 28, 2022, 06:10:16 AM
There's a company called MCARBO that makes aftermarket feed ramp and mag release as well as other little parts and pieces for the PMR/CMR 30's that's supposed to make them run smooth with a full 30 rnd mag. I ordered their all in one kit a few months ago but it's still sitting in the bag on my reloading bench and until now I've kind of forgot about it so I have no report if it works as advertised but I'm told it makes them run smooth.
With regard to a red dot and how well they work on the PMR30's what I've read is if the red dot you put on them is very light then they still function ok but if not then the extra weight on the slide slows things down to much and they won't feed very well. I think MCarbo makes a frame mount for red dots.
My only complaint with shooting mine is they are freakin, LOUD!, so you'll want to wear very good ear protection when you shoot it. Also, with those mags holding as many as they do you can burn through a sh1t ton of ammo in a hurry if you shoot it much. Pretty much all I've shot through mine is the 30gr Vmax 22mag ammo and that stuff shoots and runs really well through mine. One other thing, the front sight screws have a way of working themselves loose I nearly lost my front sight so I recommend taking those little screws out and cleaning the threads with brake cleaner then put a drop of loctite on each one and screw them back in. I did that with mine and they've stayed tight since.
Post by: MtnMuley on May 28, 2022, 06:17:13 AM
Post by: Peewee on May 28, 2022, 06:30:16 AM
Post by: KFhunter on May 30, 2022, 03:33:18 PM
I'm reading about polishing the feed ramp helps feed issues.
Gonna try find the federal. 22wmr for handguns ammo, bit faster burning?
Couple I want to try when carrying in areas without grizz
G20 for that
Post by: mountainman on May 30, 2022, 04:11:00 PM
I got that speed loader and gun fighter inc Kenai holster comin :IBCOOL:The few years I had one I would full load the mags, give them a couple smart raps on the backside of the mag, and rarely had a feed issue. FWIW.
I'm reading about polishing the feed ramp helps feed issues.
Gonna try find the federal. 22wmr for handguns ammo, bit faster burning?
Couple I want to try when carrying in areas without grizz
G20 for that
Post by: GWP on May 30, 2022, 05:02:41 PM
These folks have a number of mods for the PMR/CMR 30’s.
Post by: KFhunter on June 30, 2022, 11:33:38 AM
I just can't tighten them up any more with the factory sights which aren't exactly target sights, and my eyes. I'm going to try my reading glasses that I bought just for clarifying pistol sights and try it again, and next time I'll take a bench out too.
This was standing freehand shooting. Most of my groups were 5-6 inches at 15 yards
I'm not comfortable shooting grouse with it more than like 10 feet :(
Post by: KFhunter on June 30, 2022, 11:35:19 AM
I own one and it is super accurate. I would thing head shooting grouse with a red dot is plenty doable. We have shot 4 different ammo brands and it really hates certain ammo. Others shot flawlessly and cycled flawlessly. Experiment with ammo and find what it likes. I also bought a speed loader which is priceless.
that speed loader is tits!
I was shooting Hornady and Federal, all I could source locally. I had one FTF which was my first cycle, so 2nd round. Then it was flawless but I was only loading 5 shot mags for grouping.
what kind of accuracy are you getting?
Post by: KFhunter on June 30, 2022, 11:39:58 AM
This is my 2nd one, the other is for my G20 and man what a difference in weight on the holster between the G20 and PMR30 :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
I put my mule freaks bino harness on over top of the chest holster and the pistol is still very accessible as the grip isn't obscured by any straps or anything, even with backpack on.
Post by: KFhunter on June 30, 2022, 11:42:49 AM
Post by: TommyH on June 30, 2022, 01:00:49 PM
https://www.amazon.com/Kel-Tec-LASERPRO-Touch-Activated-ArmaLaser-Batteries%EF%BB%BF/dp/B07RKL6SSM
Post by: KFhunter on June 30, 2022, 01:04:31 PM
Post by: b23 on June 30, 2022, 02:56:37 PM
I got a swampfox kingslayer with green circle dot coming, I got the pic rail already to mount it
It'll be interesting to hear how that works for you. I've read some reports where guys added red dot optics and a rail to their PMR30's and the added weight to the slide caused feeding/cycling issues.
Post by: KFhunter on June 30, 2022, 04:03:45 PM
Post by: TommyH on June 30, 2022, 11:06:22 PM
I got a swampfox kingslayer with green circle dot coming, I got the pic rail already to mount it
It'll be interesting to hear how that works for you. I've read some reports where guys added red dot optics and a rail to their PMR30's and the added weight to the slide caused feeding/cycling issues.
Yes, they have enough ftf issues as it is, that’s why I put the amalazer on the factory rail, curious how your setup plays out...
Post by: KFhunter on July 01, 2022, 07:05:34 AM
Post by: buckfvr on July 02, 2022, 12:30:11 PM
https://www.mcarbo.com/kel-tec-pmr-30-accessories-upgrades.aspx
These folks have a number of mods for the PMR/CMR 30’s.
Enhanced Mag Release, stainless feed ramp, and armorers spring tool on the way, oh ya speed loader also as Im not too impressed with the other two I have for the PMR.
Post by: KFhunter on July 03, 2022, 12:22:34 PM
https://www.mcarbo.com/kel-tec-pmr-30-accessories-upgrades.aspx
These folks have a number of mods for the PMR/CMR 30’s.
Enhanced Mag Release, stainless feed ramp, and armorers spring tool on the way, oh ya speed loader also as Im not too impressed with the other two I have for the PMR.
I got this speed loader I like
https://americanspeedloaders.com/product/pmr-30-cmr-30/
Post by: buckfvr on July 03, 2022, 12:57:53 PM
The one MCARBO sells looks easy, fast, and quality in their vid, not to mention a much better price. Should be here in a few days, Ill post it up once I have a chance to try it out.
Post by: KFhunter on July 03, 2022, 01:35:59 PM
Post by: CastleRocker on July 03, 2022, 07:48:44 PM
Post by: KFhunter on July 03, 2022, 08:28:34 PM
I've had a PMR 30 for several years, and really like it. I did put a Fedderson threaded barrel on it right after I got it and it flat shoots. I was not impressed with the accuracy of the stock barrel. The trigger is great for a stock polymer trigger. I can consistently ring my 8" and 10" plates at 50 and 75 yards. I didn't know there was a Kenai chest holster for it, or all the other McCarbo stuff! This forum costs me money!!!
gun fighter inc is having a sale on ;)
Post by: phildobaggins on July 03, 2022, 11:52:22 PM
I've had a PMR 30 for several years, and really like it. I did put a Fedderson threaded barrel on it right after I got it and it flat shoots. I was not impressed with the accuracy of the stock barrel. The trigger is great for a stock polymer trigger. I can consistently ring my 8" and 10" plates at 50 and 75 yards. I didn't know there was a Kenai chest holster for it, or all the other McCarbo stuff! This forum costs me money!!!
gun fighter inc is having a sale on ;)
Love my gun fighters kenai :tup:
Post by: b23 on July 05, 2022, 09:40:38 AM
Post by: KFhunter on July 08, 2022, 04:01:21 PM
I'm getting a little stiction on the first cycle, if the first cycle works then I can typically rapid fire a 5 shot burst without ftf
I think I'm almost there :tup:
Post by: buckfvr on July 08, 2022, 06:05:31 PM
The PMR will be on hand for any blues I run into and we'll see how that goes, and whos/whats to blame.... :chuckle:
Post by: KFhunter on July 08, 2022, 06:34:39 PM
Sticker is 4 inch, used most of that @ 15 yards.
Not good enough yet
And the pistol after 50-60 rounds cycles about 50%
Need better lube or recoil spring, not sure I'll get it super reliable with the red dot on it
Post by: buckfvr on July 08, 2022, 08:47:17 PM
Post by: TommyH on July 25, 2022, 07:16:43 PM
Post by: KFhunter on July 25, 2022, 07:30:40 PM
got my shipment of ammo too
Post by: buckfvr on July 26, 2022, 09:15:30 AM
I now have complete confidence in the pistol that I didnt have before.
Post by: b23 on July 26, 2022, 09:28:18 AM
Post by: buckfvr on July 26, 2022, 09:41:27 AM
Post by: KFhunter on July 26, 2022, 09:55:38 AM
Post by: buckfvr on July 26, 2022, 10:03:20 AM
Post by: Rob on July 26, 2022, 11:03:17 AM
I think my next upgrade will be the barrel, I want it to be more accurate fist
I thought about looking for a threaded barrel for mine as it would be nice to use it suppressed. Will be interested to see what you land on for a barrel.
Post by: CastleRocker on July 26, 2022, 11:28:40 AM
Post by: KFhunter on July 26, 2022, 11:53:53 AM
I think my next upgrade will be the barrel, I want it to be more accurate fist
I thought about looking for a threaded barrel for mine as it would be nice to use it suppressed. Will be interested to see what you land on for a barrel.
It say not to use a suppressor, so ymmv
Post by: buckfvr on July 26, 2022, 12:04:47 PM
:twocents:
Post by: Rob on July 26, 2022, 12:19:16 PM
I think my next upgrade will be the barrel, I want it to be more accurate fist
I thought about looking for a threaded barrel for mine as it would be nice to use it suppressed. Will be interested to see what you land on for a barrel.
It say not to use a suppressor, so ymmv
That is interesting... I wonder why? Perhaps cycling issues to do the weight?
Post by: KFhunter on July 26, 2022, 12:31:18 PM
I have an issue with just how much $ to drop into this platform as once you open up the frame to put in some of the upgrades it becomes crystal clear that the plastics will eventually be too worn for reliable service. That two piece shell is a cheap flimsy not forever platform.
:twocents:
:yeah:
I had the same impression, it's a throw away gun
Post by: KFhunter on July 26, 2022, 12:33:04 PM
I think my next upgrade will be the barrel, I want it to be more accurate fist
I thought about looking for a threaded barrel for mine as it would be nice to use it suppressed. Will be interested to see what you land on for a barrel.
It say not to use a suppressor, so ymmv
That is interesting... I wonder why? Perhaps cycling issues to do the weight?
not sure where I read it, but it had to do with the gas and the way the action cycles
there's a youtuber doing it, so that why I put "ymmv"
Post by: buckfvr on July 26, 2022, 12:39:03 PM
I have an issue with just how much $ to drop into this platform as once you open up the frame to put in some of the upgrades it becomes crystal clear that the plastics will eventually be too worn for reliable service. That two piece shell is a cheap flimsy not forever platform.
:twocents:
:yeah:
I had the same impression, it's a throw away gun
I think they are "temporarily" much more reliable and better with the upgraded parts, but that wont stop the degrading of the plastics, may actually contribute to faster degradation, even. Im thinking the whole plastic on plastic parts of the factory gun is designed around an eventual expiration date where the thing gets hucked in the can.
Post by: KFhunter on July 26, 2022, 12:55:55 PM
I think I won't recommend this gun for grouse plinking, or much of anything else really
Post by: buckfvr on July 26, 2022, 12:58:39 PM
Minute of torso home defense.
Post by: KFhunter on September 22, 2022, 07:36:52 PM
Also it's cycling flawlessly once I got grease with PTFE in it, lubed it up good, lubed the magazine too, anyplace where plastic slides on plastic or a little bit of metal which ain't much with this gun.
The green optic sight is super nice, but you have to constantly adjust the brightness depending on how much light there is
Post by: KFhunter on September 23, 2022, 10:02:00 AM
Post by: RUGER No.1 on January 03, 2023, 02:11:45 PM
I think my next upgrade will be the barrel, I want it to be more accurate fist
I thought about looking for a threaded barrel for mine as it would be nice to use it suppressed. Will be interested to see what you land on for a barrel.
It say not to use a suppressor, so ymmv
That is interesting... I wonder why? Perhaps cycling issues to do the weight?
not sure where I read it, but it had to do with the gas and the way the action cycles
there's a youtuber doing it, so that why I put "ymmv"
Says right on their site to not suppress, but someone's got to do it. curious if anyone has yet.