Post by: nwalpineguide on June 01, 2022, 07:32:49 PM
Last "migrating" deer left the 4,000 foot elevation level December 11th, 2021. The first made it back on May 8th, 2022. That's about 3 weeks later than usual for this area.
Enjoy!
Post by: JakeLand on June 01, 2022, 07:54:45 PM
Post by: nwalpineguide on June 01, 2022, 08:07:58 PM
Stud ! But we need to see more pics and vid’s
I have 6 more of... shall were say mild interest? I will probably have to attach these 6 in separate emails as I'm not certain I can attach all 6 in one post without exceeding file size limitations. Can someone please confirm or deny that this is so?
Post by: JakeLand on June 01, 2022, 09:14:11 PM
Post by: nwalpineguide on June 01, 2022, 09:56:01 PM
Freshening up the stink !
Agreed!
Here's the 8X7.
Enjoy!
Post by: 7mmfan on June 01, 2022, 10:00:03 PM
Post by: nwalpineguide on June 01, 2022, 10:04:12 PM
Oh man. Definitely dreaming of November again. Great videos Mike.
Thank you Sir!
Here's another. Enjoy!
Post by: JakeLand on June 01, 2022, 10:05:17 PM
Post by: nwalpineguide on June 01, 2022, 10:16:50 PM
Oh ya and here we’re in June…..
More June eye candy...
Post by: hunter399 on June 02, 2022, 03:19:35 AM
At least for me anyway,thanks for sharing.
I can't wait for fall season all the way around.
Post by: WildBear on June 02, 2022, 04:23:08 AM
Post by: NOCK NOCK on June 02, 2022, 05:59:05 AM
Post by: JakeLand on June 02, 2022, 06:44:08 AM
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Post by: Ridgerunner on June 02, 2022, 06:52:43 AM
Post by: grundy53 on June 02, 2022, 06:54:41 AM
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Post by: 7mmfan on June 02, 2022, 07:21:43 AM
Post by: PacificNWhunter on June 02, 2022, 08:03:59 AM
Post by: salt n sage90 on June 02, 2022, 08:41:07 AM
Appreciate you sharing
Post by: nwalpineguide on June 02, 2022, 10:33:34 AM
Seems bucks 4 and 5 are the same buck? A little hard to tell because the one video is foggy and the other he moves through quickly, but they sure look the same. Where in proximity to each other were those cameras?
Astute observation Rory. They are the same buck separated by about 50 yards, and along the same trail/migration route. I also caught this buck at another stand/camera station about 100 feet higher on the very top of the ridge. What's odd is that there are days that go by before these type bucks "swing" back into the area and get caught by the camera unit. They must be chasing does and checking for them far and wide before they (for whatever reason) come past an area they have already visited. But, they are in the rut. So it stands to reason they are breeding does in areas that they can easily access them. To wit; ages old, high use migration routes coming out of the Glacier Peak Wilderness.
I've tended to notice over the past 10-12 years that just in the last 3 years or so non typical bucks are now showing up in addition to the typical frame deer. It used to be that all I captured on camera were typical frame bucks, now these non typical bucks have appeared. Don't know what to make of that.
I'm no biologist. And don't have any theories to explain it. Sure, age, genetics and feed (good minerals) play a part but what occurs in the life history of one of these bucks for it to sport non typical antlers? Injury? Search me I just don't know.
Post by: 7mmfan on June 02, 2022, 10:45:58 AM
Post by: nwalpineguide on June 02, 2022, 11:04:49 AM
Non-typical antlers are fairly common in Mule Deer that are allowed to reach maturity. It would seem that if you are seeing an increase in non-typical bucks on your cameras, that would anecdotally signify an increase in mature deer on those routes. If you were to tally numbers of bucks on camera over the last few years, would that jive?
Hm. You may be onto something.
In the past it has been just one or two fantastic bucks each year, And that's it for piss walloper bucks. Period the end! And we know those type bucks are just plain RARE wherever we find them. That's reality. And I accept that.
Furthermore, my camera units would pick up several; 7 or 8 very nice bucks, some of 'em mature others approaching maturity. I'd take any one of the mature bucks towards the end of the general hunt like I did that buck last year in October. In addition the cameras would pick up plenty of fork horns and 2x3's or smallish 3x3's like the one in the attached video. So, there is no lack of bucks. In fact a good crop of future mature bucks. It's just chance and the realities of being a buck in an environment full of predators that any of these bucks live the necessary 5 or 6 years to grow large antlers. Quite remarkable really.
Post by: WildBear on June 02, 2022, 11:10:49 AM
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Post by: jstone on June 02, 2022, 11:48:15 AM
Post by: nwalpineguide on June 02, 2022, 12:01:39 PM
Snow doesn’t look very deep. Any does on your picture coming out late?
Yes. plenty of does migrating through. Most if not all were accompanied by fawns of the year. The last doe with fawns exited on or about December 11th. Which is a typical exit date for this area and does.
Winter made an appearance on or about the 19th of December and it was lights out until May 6, 2022 that migrating deer headed for the GPW re appeared at this site.
Post by: JakeLand on June 02, 2022, 12:16:37 PM
Post by: nwalpineguide on June 02, 2022, 12:56:38 PM
If or when I draw a late tag I know who I’m messaging !!!
"After that last set of rapids Ed I don't remember nothin'... NOTHIN" (grin).
Post by: hunter399 on June 02, 2022, 02:29:52 PM
If or when I draw a late tag I know who I’m messaging !!!Ain't that the truth.
I've downloaded more video today then I will download all year.
He must have a pretty big GB card to have his cam on vid all the time.
Post by: nwalpineguide on June 02, 2022, 02:55:32 PM
Thanks for sharing, definitely helps to keep the dream alive while we wait for the late draw results to see those big migratory bucks.
Ridgerunner- here's the video example I mentioned of that buck already locked onto a doe on October 27th. Of course I don't know how long or far he had been following her but I suspect he intercepted her along the way and continued with her for some miles until he bred her. Without radio collar/GPS tracking data it's impossible to know!
Post by: nwalpineguide on June 02, 2022, 05:22:37 PM
If or when I draw a late tag I know who I’m messaging !!!Ain't that the truth.
I've downloaded more video today then I will download all year.
He must have a pretty big GB card to have his cam on vid all the time.
Primarily Ive been utilizing the Browning Dark Ops Extreme (model BTC-6HDX), with a 256GB card. It gives adequate results.
Post by: sagerat on June 02, 2022, 07:18:45 PM
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on June 03, 2022, 01:07:41 AM
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Post by: hunter399 on June 03, 2022, 05:34:48 AM
Cool man thanks for the info.If or when I draw a late tag I know who I’m messaging !!!Ain't that the truth.
I've downloaded more video today then I will download all year.
He must have a pretty big GB card to have his cam on vid all the time.
Primarily Ive been utilizing the Browning Dark Ops Extreme (model BTC-6HDX), with a 256GB card. It gives adequate results.
Thought most cam can't handle more than a 32 GB.
I'll Google up that cam.
And keep drooling over your mule deer.
Post by: hunter399 on June 03, 2022, 06:28:56 AM
Yup checked that cam out. Does say it will accept any SD for the most part.👍Cool man thanks for the info.If or when I draw a late tag I know who I’m messaging !!!Ain't that the truth.
I've downloaded more video today then I will download all year.
He must have a pretty big GB card to have his cam on vid all the time.
Primarily Ive been utilizing the Browning Dark Ops Extreme (model BTC-6HDX), with a 256GB card. It gives adequate results.
Thought most cam can't handle more than a 32 GB.
I'll Google up that cam.
And keep drooling over your mule deer.
Nice looking cam ,thanks👍
Post by: nwalpineguide on June 03, 2022, 12:44:38 PM
Buck 1 & 3 the same also?
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Yes. The same buck Andrew.
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on June 03, 2022, 01:06:04 PM
Were those videos like 9 minutes apart or were the time stamps off? One video was a lot of snow the other bare dirtBuck 1 & 3 the same also?
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Yes. The same buck Andrew.
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Post by: nwalpineguide on June 03, 2022, 01:59:31 PM
Were those videos like 9 minutes apart or were the time stamps off? One video was a lot of snow the other bare dirtBuck 1 & 3 the same also?
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Yes. The same buck Andrew.
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Wow! excellent observation Andrew. I had not noticed the difference between the snow covered ground (out in a small opening) and the bare ground (in heavy timber). Well done. I've been/was fixated on that bucks antlers. Not on the difference in ground cover. Probably because I'm intimately familiar with it. Again, great observation Sir!
Yes, the time stamps are about 8 minutes apart. What the buck did was a half moon circle around the two cameras that are about 50 yards from each other on the same trail. However, since there are allot of does with fawns in this particular spot I speculate that the buck was scent checking the does and simply did a circuit below one camera, and then climbed back to the main migration trail and was picked up by the other camera as he passed it. it's important to realize, and it took your observation to make me think this through, but one camera is in heavy timber; Douglas firs and ponderosa pines with some lodgepole and mountain hemlock. The other camera is out in a small opening where the snow was. The camera unit in the "big timber" had no snow cover on the ground because the trees prevented it from hitting and covering the ground. What's more, there is more "thermal" cover in the timber. Basically, it's a tad warmer in the timber than out in the open where heat can radiate out to space quicker and keep the open area slightly cooler.
Attached is another large non-typical from a few years ago that may or may not be the same buck. I captured this video a few years ago on another nearby migration ridge/trail.
Enjoy!
Post by: nwalpineguide on June 03, 2022, 02:09:04 PM
Were those videos like 9 minutes apart or were the time stamps off? One video was a lot of snow the other bare dirtBuck 1 & 3 the same also?
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Yes. The same buck Andrew.
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Wow! excellent observation Andrew. I had not noticed the difference between the snow covered ground (out in a small opening) and the bare ground (in heavy timber). Well done. I've been/was fixated on that bucks antlers. Not on the difference in ground cover. Probably because I'm intimately familiar with it. Again, great observation Sir!
Yes, the time stamps are about 8 minutes apart. What the buck did was a half moon circle around the two cameras that are about 50 yards from each other on the same trail. However, since there are allot of does with fawns in this particular spot I speculate that the buck was scent checking the does and simply did a circuit below one camera, and then climbed back to the main migration trail and was picked up by the other camera as he passed it. it's important to realize, and it took your observation to make me think this through, but one camera is in heavy timber; Douglas firs and ponderosa pines with some lodgepole and mountain hemlock. The other camera is out in a small opening where the snow was. The camera unit in the "big timber" had no snow cover on the ground because the trees prevented it from hitting and covering the ground. What's more, there is more "thermal" cover in the timber. Basically, it's a tad warmer in the timber than out in the open where heat can radiate out to space quicker and keep the open area slightly cooler.
Attached is another large non-typical from a few years ago that may or may not be the same buck. I captured this video a few years ago on another nearby migration ridge/trail.
Enjoy!
Belay that last! Not the same buck. I'm getting confused about which buck is which, I've captured TOO many different one's over the years in TOO many places. Gawd what a great PROBLEM to have! :IBCOOL:
Post by: WildBear on June 03, 2022, 02:19:54 PM
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