Hunting Washington Forum
Big Game Hunting => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: DUCKDUDE on June 10, 2022, 05:05:21 PM
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Just warming up my seat. :chuckle:
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Nothing like staying positive
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I'm trying the reverse psychology approach this year. :tup:
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Glass is already frosted up ready come out of the freezer.
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I put in too much money into special permit points this year there's no way I'm going to win anything
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The odds suck, the system sucks, it’s a chit show right now, no way I draw this year! NoWay! I still believe if the random draw didn’t include an infinite number we’d have much better odds when you have higher points. Example: one catagory , with all the applicants and their total names in the hat = 100,000. Then make that number the number pool to draw from, not an infinite number to draw from. Make sense??
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No matter the odds ,somebody has WIN!
But ya feel I should be here already.
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It’s just hard, because most of the quotas for most of the permits have been slashed so hard.
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I drew everything lol. Just wishful thinking after 10 years of nothing lol.
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The odds suck, the system sucks, it’s a chit show right now, no way I draw this year! NoWay! I still believe if the random draw didn’t include an infinite number we’d have much better odds when you have higher points. Example: one catagory , with all the applicants and their total names in the hat = 100,000. Then make that number the number pool to draw from, not an infinite number to draw from. Make sense??
No
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Let's go brandon? :dunno:
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Just thought I'd check in since there are so many categories that even if we win 1 or maybe even over the moon 2 we are mostly losers in the end! especially if over the moon is :yike: the same species....
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My buddy drew moose before on his first attempt. Crazy things can happen.
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I drew everything lol. Just wishful thinking after 10 years of nothing lol.
That happened for me after 21 years of applying, awesome season but would have been nice to spread em out
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The odds suck, the system sucks, it’s a chit show right now, no way I draw this year! NoWay! I still believe if the random draw didn’t include an infinite number we’d have much better odds when you have higher points. Example: one catagory , with all the applicants and their total names in the hat = 100,000. Then make that number the number pool to draw from, not an infinite number to draw from. Make sense??
I sort of understand what you are saying, but if all 'tickets' get a random number there would be no difference in results (i.e., the frequency of high point holders drawing tags would not change).
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I'm over the LL, the nachos are blah, wings have gotten absurdly expensive, and I can drink cheap beer anytime of the year. Not to mention, the staff is habitually cranky and vulgar, probably from being over worked. The billiards dont roll true almost like your getting cheated, and Garth Brooks "Friends in Low Places" is stuck on repeat. Don't even get me started on the pull tabs, Lloyd Christmas has better chances. I AINT GOING THIS YEAR!
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:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: Awesome post!! And you are right, the prices are getting out of hand!!
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And last year they had no Fresca.
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I spend most every night beneath the light of a neon moon……..of the loser’s lounge.
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I'm over the LL, the nachos are blah, wings have gotten absurdly expensive, and I can drink cheap beer anytime of the year. Not to mention, the staff is habitually cranky and vulgar, probably from being over worked. The billiards dont roll true almost like your getting cheated, and Garth Brooks "Friends in Low Places" is stuck on repeat. Don't even get me started on the pull tabs, Lloyd Christmas has better chances. I AINT GOING THIS YEAR!
WOW !!! Sounds like you have spent a lot of time in the Lounge.
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What's the loser's lounge? Ive never been there :dunno:
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I'm over the LL, the nachos are blah, wings have gotten absurdly expensive, and I can drink cheap beer anytime of the year. Not to mention, the staff is habitually cranky and vulgar, probably from being over worked. The billiards dont roll true almost like your getting cheated, and Garth Brooks "Friends in Low Places" is stuck on repeat. Don't even get me started on the pull tabs, Lloyd Christmas has better chances. I AINT GOING THIS YEAR!
WOW !!! Sounds like you have spent a lot of time in the Lounge.
I've spent my fair share, I drew a quality deer tag in 2006 so there is that. I did draw multi deer this year so cant complain. People can say what they want about WA, but it is nice being able to chase deer, elk, bear, and cougar all fall every year.
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I've spent my fair share, I drew a quality deer tag in 2006 so there is that. I did draw multi deer this year so cant complain. People can say what they want about WA, but it is nice being able to chase deer, elk, bear, and cougar all fall every year.
WOW. 2006 until this year? They should name an entire wing of the Lounge after you.
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I've spent my fair share, I drew a quality deer tag in 2006 so there is that. I did draw multi deer this year so cant complain. People can say what they want about WA, but it is nice being able to chase deer, elk, bear, and cougar all fall every year.
WOW. 2006 until this year? They should name an entire wing of the Lounge after you.
Yeah it has been a while, but I do put in for top tier elk and deer wise so kind of expected. OIL are just luck.
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I am in the same leaky boat. 2006 was my last time drawing too.!!!
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I am in the same leaky boat. 2006 was my last time drawing too.!!!
I'm sure there are some people out there with worse luck than us, tagging along with others has been just as fun from my experience.
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they need to implement a max point system and give out more bs tags. like the fact that there is only 1 toudal quality deer tag is bs. then on top of that there are no archery black tail rut hunts? like come on wdfw ower deer and elk populations arnt so fragle that the whole populations will fall part if we gave out some rut tags. i think the main reason for this is its too hard for them to do population studies. meanwhile if you get out and walk some of these ridges on the wet side youll find that there are so man deer in these woods its crazy.
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18 years and I have never drawn a tag for a critter with antlers. 1 cow elk and 1 cow moose is it. So yes, I am a bit unlucky.
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im gonna just put my name in now... nothing for me.. like its been last 10 seasons...
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I am in the same leaky boat. 2006 was my last time drawing too.!!!
I'm sure there are some people out there with worse luck than us, tagging along with others has been just as fun from my experience.
I drew a cow tag in 1994, and that’s it for me, I haven’t checked yet today though
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Well, if we're having a "biggest loser" contest, I haven't drawn anything, ever, in 11 years of applying (including this year). That includes WA and out-of-state too. Some pretty high odds stuff, included... like an elk B tag in Montana last year that had 70% draw odds, and an ID controlled hunt muzzleloader deer tag two years ago that had 65% draw odds. I'd say my odds of having drawn *something* at this point is like 98-99% - I've either been extremely unlucky or on a "no hunt" list somewhere.
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Well, if we're having a "biggest loser" contest, I haven't drawn anything, ever, in 11 years of applying (including this year). That includes WA and out-of-state too. Some pretty high odds stuff, included... like an elk B tag in Montana last year that had 70% draw odds, and an ID controlled hunt muzzleloader deer tag two years ago that had 65% draw odds. I'd say my odds of having drawn *something* at this point is like 98-99% - I've either been extremely unlucky or on a "no hunt" list somewhere.
I feel your pain...18 year striking out on quality elk and 11 years striking out on bull elk
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Everything I applied for has increased by one point. They win this year! Gonna give them some more $$ & buy my Deer Multi-Season Tag since I didn't get Quality Deer.
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Everything I applied for has increased by one point. They win this year! Gonna give them some more $$ & buy my Deer Multi-Season Tag since I didn't get Quality Deer.
Same boat for me.
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Whoa shes a full house in here! Im not hanging around here ill go scout for my OTC hunt.
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I'm bellying up to the bar. No luck for me.
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Full page of NOT SELECTED. I'm here once again. 6 years in a row.
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NOT SELECTED in all the categories I put in for, double Crown with water and lemon please :)
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WDFW says:
Pathfinder101 :pee:
Little Pathfinder :pee:
I'll have a Rum and Coke. :P Root Beer for the boy. :P
22 points for elk next year... :rolleyes:
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Nothing for my kids and I...dang.
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Nada again. Guess Idaho is my best bet!
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Put me in, coach. :bash:
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Joining the club nada for me and the wife. Good luck to all those who got selected.
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Zippola
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Double Jameson on the rocks please...another losing year for me :cryriver:
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This F***ing state SUCKS!!!! 13 stinking points for a cow tag in a unit that averages 7 for a draw and I still haven't been selected for the last 13 years. 8 to 12 points on other hunts as well and I haven't drawn a permit in several years. 3 kids in the mix with plenty of points to draw youth permits and no one was selected for anything. I had a lot of friends put in for multi-season tags and none of them drew. I suspect there is a bunch of BS going on at WDFW and I'm about tired of giving my money to a state that doesn't return. FJB & FWDFW! Pretty sure there is some underhanded crap going here and it's time to say goodbye to this sh*t a$$ state! :bash: :bash: :bash:
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I'm guessing there are a lot of folks who feel the same way right about now.
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:yeah:
This F***ing state SUCKS!!!! 13 stinking points for a cow tag in a unit that averages 7 for a draw and I still haven't been selected for the last 13 years. 8 to 12 points on other hunts as well and I haven't drawn a permit in several years. 3 kids in the mix with plenty of points to draw youth permits and no one was selected for anything. I had a lot of friends put in for multi-season tags and none of them drew. I suspect there is a bunch of BS going on at WDFW and I'm about tired of giving my money to a state that doesn't return. FJB & FWDFW! Pretty sure there is some underhanded crap going here and it's time to say goodbye to this sh*t a$$ state! :bash: :bash: :bash:
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It's easy to get a "Bad List" complex around here, that's for sure.
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I’m going to need a booth in the back. Whole family and all friends I have heard from so far were all unselected
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This F***ing state SUCKS!!!! 13 stinking points for a cow tag in a unit that averages 7 for a draw and I still haven't been selected for the last 13 years. 8 to 12 points on other hunts as well and I haven't drawn a permit in several years. 3 kids in the mix with plenty of points to draw youth permits and no one was selected for anything. I had a lot of friends put in for multi-season tags and none of them drew. I suspect there is a bunch of BS going on at WDFW and I'm about tired of giving my money to a state that doesn't return. FJB & FWDFW! Pretty sure there is some underhanded crap going here and it's time to say goodbye to this sh*t a$$ state! :bash: :bash: :bash:
I wouldn’t cry too hard.. 19 points across the board and still can’t even draw my deer units with average of 8 points.
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Here i am again. Both my boy and i got the big nuthin….. :bash: :bash:
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Getting up in age and points! Pour me a strong one
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First pitcher is on me :IBCOOL:
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Zip
Zilch
Nada dam thing
You welcome WDFW for the donation
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This F***ing state SUCKS!!!! 13 stinking points for a cow tag in a unit that averages 7 for a draw and I still haven't been selected for the last 13 years. 8 to 12 points on other hunts as well and I haven't drawn a permit in several years. 3 kids in the mix with plenty of points to draw youth permits and no one was selected for anything. I had a lot of friends put in for multi-season tags and none of them drew. I suspect there is a bunch of BS going on at WDFW and I'm about tired of giving my money to a state that doesn't return. FJB & FWDFW! Pretty sure there is some underhanded crap going here and it's time to say goodbye to this sh*t a$$ state! :bash: :bash: :bash:
I wouldn’t cry too hard.. 19 points across the board and still can’t even draw my deer units with average of 8 points.
But WDFW does thank you for the non deductible donation.
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First time ever for me & family in the lounge...I play the odds for some "easy" draw permits and between our hunting group 5 of us so far, nothing....but fingers crossed for the Idaho draw!
Grade
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I will be closing this place down. Looks like pretty much the same crowd from last year.
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Grab me a banquet and a jagerbomb. First year i habent drawn at least a doe tag in like 5 years. IM NOT USED TO THIS !!!
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I'm pulling up a chair and I'll have a double F my life on ice please. I'd chase it with a shot of unleaded but think Johnny Walker would be cheaper now a days
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20 buck points . Thought I might of had a chance. Guess not
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:hello: :brew:
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You guys got room for myself and two daughters in here? :'(
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Who’s pouring drinks?🥃🥃
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I drew a guided, paid for moose hunt in another country!!!!!! WOOOOOT WOOOOOT :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Good thing....because heaven knows I wasn't going to draw anything in this state. LOL :chuckle:
NEXT ROUND IS ON ME!!
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Guess I’m in the losers lounge for WA :chuckle:
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I drew a guided, paid for moose hunt in another country!!!!!! WOOOOOT WOOOOOT :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Good thing....because heaven knows I wasn't going to draw anything in this state. LOL :chuckle:
NEXT ROUND IS ON ME!!
dam J Reb...tell us about it...BTW wild Turkey for me sir
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I’m in like Flynn
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10 years of nada! Crazy to think I put in for everything available and no luck in that time frame.
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I got free tickets to the losers lounge again, missed the deadline to put in again….
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Whats on Tap boys and Girls you got room for one more to belly up to the bar. On a positive note my daughter drew any deer Mason Nov. 1-20.
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I drew a guided, paid for moose hunt in another country!!!!!! WOOOOOT WOOOOOT :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Good thing....because heaven knows I wasn't going to draw anything in this state. LOL :chuckle:
NEXT ROUND IS ON ME!!
dam J Reb...tell us about it...BTW wild Turkey for me sir
Not much to tell.....if I want to hunt anything worth hunting, I have to pay for it. :chuckle: :chuckle: I'm kind of OK with it though. This will be our fourth annual moose hunt in Canada....hoping my son can one up his dad this year. :tup:
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20+ points for both elk, both deer, and moose.
Didn’t even pick top tier stuff… nada.
Same for wife.
9 yr old daughter drew a youth any buck tag in Physt 603 for 1-16 Nov. she’s stoked. Hoping to do better than her little spike last yr. if anyone has land or access for a little girl that has to shoot in a super controlled environment (she can’t shoot of the shoulder, has to be in a tripod) pm me. I can arrange some sort of return favor I’m sure. She’d be happy with an average buck!
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10 years of nada! Crazy to think I put in for everything available and no luck in that time frame.
10 years… that’s a good one :chuckle:
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Well nada for me as well...
My son got a huge nada as well.
Not selected on anything.
I put in for hunts close to home.
Maybe next year.
Good luck to all that did draw,better fill up your gas cans now. :chuckle: :dunno: :chuckle:
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No love in Wyoming or Washington for us this year. Par for course, should just start saving the money :bash:
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20 buck points . Thought I might of had a chance. Guess not
Same here.
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I was toting my wallet all across the crappy apps…
I’ve lost everywhere man, lost everywhere man
Lost in Arizona, New Mexico, Montana, Wyoming and now Washington man
It was a bad year for draws. Guess I’m full on OTC Washington this year
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16 years of nothing. Thanks wa really thought there would be a chance. But as well as the state and country are being ran. They probably won’t mind if my otc tag identifies as a quality bull tag this year :yike:
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and.......
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:peep: how you guys holding up in here? This is just a wellness check I'm not staying :chuckle:
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Get Out (in Arnolds voice).
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Looks like the raffles are gonna get some Whitpirate lovin'
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I'll take a whiskey and diet cola. Gotta get slim for bear season. ;) Then fit enough to out hike everyone (AND their stock or ATVs) during muzzy OTC deer and elk seasons. :chuckle:
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Whole lotta nothin'. Struck out in Wyoming and now Washington. My wife asked me if that made my odds go up for next year, 'bout spit out my wine:(. Told her, "In actuality, yes, about a hundredth of a percent!". 27 points for moose don't get you nothing except another worthless point, same with sheep, goat, quality elk and deer, not quite as many points in those, but another one for next year.
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Don’t like hanging out in here! But had to stop in with a whole lot of not selected :hello:
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taking a count here... now many years for you since ANY selection??? put in all and nothing for 10 years here.. only one i dont is multi deer...
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Sorry for you guys' lousy luck. :(
I drew a POINT IN EVERY CATEGORY! Best year ever! :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup:
I'll have 22 points for elk next year! How exciting is that?
:P
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I guess I better stop in here, it's been a few years. 2020 I drew Quality elk Mudflow rifle with 12 points, 2021 drew Antlerless elk Mudflow muzzleloader with 7 points, and a 2nd deer tag in eastern Wa. with 10 points. But before that the last time I drew was in 2012.
So yesterday I got my Wyoming deer results at 4:00 in the morning and see a big UNSUCCESSFUL, for a hunt that I was about 90% sure I would draw with 6 points. Turns out we needed at least 11 points. :bash:
Then Washington is posted, and knowing my odds weren't great for anything, but sure hoping 26 moose points might finally get me a tag, or 10 Quality deer points might get me a muzzleloader tag, but no luck there.
It's okay though, my 16 year old daughter saved the day by drawing a deer youth permit and an elk youth permit. Both just antlerless hunts but she couldn't care less about antlers, and I'm glad she was able to zero out her youth points in the last year she's eligible to apply for the youth permits.
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17 pts in quality elk/deer and bull elk and nothing for me. i was hoping for the best but since i'm looking to move to Nevada at the end of this year i guess i'm leaving points on the table....
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Drew a Entiat Archery in 04. That was my last draw and only Quality Tag. I currently have 26 points in the 2 Bull elk categories and 17 Quality deer, 20 sheep points. Getting older every year along with everyone else. I'm pretty sure I'm going to die of old age before I actually draw a Quality tag again. Especially since they let the Indians shoot all the big bulls and bucks whenever they want which reduces the tags available.
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Drew a Entiat Archery in 04. That was my last draw and only Quality Tag. I currently have 26 points in the 2 Bull elk categories and 17 Quality deer, 20 sheep points. Getting older every year along with everyone else. I'm pretty sure I'm going to die of old age before I actually draw a Quality tag again. Especially since they let the Indians shoot all the big bulls and bucks whenever they want which reduces the tags available.
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