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Other Activities => Fishing => Topic started by: Crunchy on June 20, 2022, 11:38:34 AM

Title: Ocean conditions forecast
Post by: Crunchy on June 20, 2022, 11:38:34 AM: I am looking to fish either Neah Bay or Westport Thursday-Friday. Trying to get an accurate forecast of conditions. What app or website does everyone use? I have been using magicseaweed.com but thought I would see what other info is out there. Magicseaweed.com say 5ft at 8 seconds which is pretty lumpy.
Title: Re: Ocean conditions forecast
Post by: h20hunter on June 20, 2022, 11:39:31 AM: Google up noaa marine puget sound...
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Post by: h20hunter on June 20, 2022, 11:40:31 AM: .....
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Post by: fishngamereaper on June 20, 2022, 11:45:17 AM: Windy combined with NOAA. Generally somewhere in the middle.
Also ventusky is good for pinpoint stuff...
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Post by: Stein on June 20, 2022, 11:48:32 AM: I don't fish out in the big pond, but Windy is the best I have found. They have multiple models that are often vastly different in predictions, so you need to know which model happens to line up well with a specific area. For Puget Sound, I look at ECMWF although there is a new ECMWF+ I need to learn more about.
Title: Re: Ocean conditions forecast
Post by: Crunchy on June 20, 2022, 11:53:12 AM: for fishing in the sound I use windy just for wind, for big water I was looking for swell and wind to get a good idea of what to expect. Neah is a 4-5 hr drive. so I don't want to make the trip if the water is too nasty.
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Post by: Stein on June 20, 2022, 11:55:32 AM: Windy gives me four swell models, I have no idea how good they are or if there are better options. I imagine there is buoy data somewhere.
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Post by: Fidelk on June 20, 2022, 12:06:50 PM: Thursday and Friday look pretty good......for both 10 miles and 60 miles out (Neah Bay and south). I'll try and grab a buoy link.

https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/data/Forecasts/FZUS56.KSEW.html
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Post by: Longfield1 on June 20, 2022, 12:51:17 PM: I use the app windfinder and its usually pretty good. A little more accurate compared to NOAA, as NOAA is more general area.
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Post by: fishngamereaper on June 20, 2022, 12:56:50 PM: Both windy and ventusky have a swell options, primary swell, secondary, and time/interval/distance...

Most all NOAA bouys offshore are off station so live updates are impossible. The west entrance bouy has been off station for a year...
The GH bouy may has been hit and miss.

And .. it's Monday. So the current forecast will change 8 times between now and Thur..

But .. Windy has been pretty accurate out 3-4 days pretty consistent for the last couple years.
Title: Re: Ocean conditions forecast
Post by: Crunchy on June 20, 2022, 01:25:09 PM: well fingers crossed for Hali, ling, rockfish and salmon trip later this week. taken the new boat out of Westport a couple of times. Now need to do the same at Neah.
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Post by: fishngamereaper on June 20, 2022, 01:32:01 PM: I'll be up there if you run into any issues.
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Post by: metlhead on June 20, 2022, 08:07:56 PM: This year seems like the swell forecast on NOAA is only accurate the day before. Got buddies that come up from Oregon, and planning is tough when I gotta tell them to wait. Seven planned trips, and only made it out twice. First time was unpredicted crappy.
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Post by: dilleytech on June 22, 2022, 05:59:12 AM: Windfinder is pretty accurate usually. Compare what it’s showing now to real time buoy data.
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Post by: Bareback on June 22, 2022, 06:23:34 AM: https://a.atmos.washington.edu/data/marine_report.html

https://www.windfinder.com/forecast/neah_bay_buoy

https://www.sailflow.com/map#47.95,-124.385,8,2
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Post by: blackpowderhunter on June 22, 2022, 07:05:37 AM: Quote from: fishngamereaper on June 20, 2022, 11:45:17 AM
Windy combined with NOAA. Generally somewhere in the middle.
Also ventusky is good for pinpoint stuff...
i use windy and noaa as well, then sprinkle in a little common sense
Title: Re: Ocean conditions forecast
Post by: blackpowderhunter on June 22, 2022, 07:06:53 AM: Quote from: Crunchy on June 20, 2022, 01:25:09 PM
well fingers crossed for Hali, ling, rockfish and salmon trip later this week. taken the new boat out of Westport a couple of times. Now need to do the same at Neah.
i might of missed it but what did you end up getting
Title: Re: Ocean conditions forecast
Post by: Crunchy on June 26, 2022, 08:49:50 AM: Quote from: blackpowderhunter on June 22, 2022, 07:06:53 AM
Quote from: Crunchy on June 20, 2022, 01:25:09 PM
well fingers crossed for Hali, ling, rockfish and salmon trip later this week. taken the new boat out of Westport a couple of times. Now need to do the same at Neah.
i might of missed it but what did you end up getting
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I bought a 21 ft Northriver Seahawk
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Post by: bowtech721 on June 27, 2022, 01:20:38 PM: I use a combination of 4 weather forecasts/apps. NOAA general weather (generally conservative), NOAA click map pinpoint forecast, WINDY, and Windfinder. A bit of averaging between those usually works out ok. Good luck :tup:
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Post by: fishngamereaper on June 27, 2022, 01:53:32 PM: One thing that needs to be taken into consideration is the upwelling of currents... especially at Maxx tidal change.

Ocean conditions will often change every couple miles...and no wx forecast will be able to accurately identify the affects of current. This last weekend was case in point. Swells from the West, wind N/NE, max currents....what was forecast 10knts on wind and swells 3@15 was actually wind @15-20 with 5-8' ers, breaker's and no general direction... running to swiftsure for Hali and salmon was fun ..kinda