Post by: SeaRun1 on June 27, 2022, 02:45:17 PM
Trying to see if I can fix this on my own before taking it to a mechanic. A couple of years ago I developed a stuttering/hesitation problem with my Tacoma. We did a general tune up and replaced a lot of things like spark plugs and cables, thermostat and a few other things I cannot remember. My buddy that works on cars helped me as I do my oil changes and brakes but not much beyond that.
It fixed the problem for a few years but now I am getting it worse. I can’t really drive it to far it hesitates so bad. It starts and idles fine. Any thoughts?
Where should I start?
Thanks
SR1
Post by: BigCutty3 on June 27, 2022, 02:54:00 PM
Post by: Fidelk on June 27, 2022, 02:57:02 PM
I'm scheduled for a "fuel induction system cleaning, that includes throttle body service and mass air flow sensor service".
Post by: Smokeploe on June 27, 2022, 03:22:09 PM
Have you cleaned your throttle body, right where the throttle plate is? You need a old toothbrush and a can of carb cleaner. Take off the intake hose and use a flashlight look inside and see if a ring of carbon is around the throttle bore clean it off spray, open throttle and brush.
It can cause stuttering and missing.
Good luck
Smokeploe
Post by: jeffro on June 27, 2022, 03:55:29 PM
And pray it isn’t a head gasket!
Post by: JBar on June 27, 2022, 04:16:40 PM
Post by: jason stevens on June 27, 2022, 04:27:11 PM
Post by: SeaRun1 on June 27, 2022, 05:04:31 PM
I will try the mass air sensor and cleaning the throttle bod6 first. Thanks for the advice guys.
SR1
Post by: Zardoz on June 27, 2022, 06:34:46 PM
Is it throwing a code? Don’t remember the code mine would throw but mine did that and it was arching on the rear drivers side plug wire. Would do that every year to two years. Always the same one
:yeah: Without a code, you are just wasting time and money. Either spend some money for your own reader, or pay a shop to do it for you. :twocents:
Post by: HntnFsh on June 27, 2022, 07:05:55 PM
Post by: SeaRun1 on June 27, 2022, 08:56:29 PM
SR1
Post by: Teepee96 on June 27, 2022, 09:12:23 PM
Very easy to get to and a fairly cheap part if I remember correctly
Post by: Fastass350 on June 27, 2022, 09:13:18 PM
Post by: longtrails on June 28, 2022, 12:05:20 AM
Post by: Lokaybinnity on June 28, 2022, 07:02:29 AM
Post by: SeaRun1 on June 29, 2022, 05:49:24 PM
So I started it up today and was planning on replacing the fuel filter. I have been watching videos and it seems that another thing might be replacing the injectors.
I started it up and it turned on the check engine light. It threw a p0304 code which is cylinder four misfire.
Will look into the throttle positioning sensor as well.
Thanks for the help all. Feels like this might be the last hurrah for my old Tacoma.
SR1
Post by: MeepDog on June 29, 2022, 05:57:27 PM
Post by: SeaRun1 on June 29, 2022, 06:23:22 PM
SR1
Post by: TommyH on June 29, 2022, 07:54:33 PM
Post by: MeepDog on June 30, 2022, 02:07:22 PM
I do have a coolant leak. I put in a half gallon of anti freeze maybe every month or two. How difficult is this to do?Head gasket replacement is a job that costs very little in parts but for a shop costs a ton for labor. It's a great job for a competent diy mechanic but can take up to a week. A shop would certainly charge over $1k. If you verify 99% that it's a head gasket you may as well try a sealant if you're not gonna replace the head gasket. It could save you the whole process but if you have water in your oil don't do it because it will add bad abrasives to your oil. There's a whole range of head gasket sealants but whatever you use make sure you follow the instructions exactly. Do some research on them. I've never used them but it beats scrapping the engine.
SR1
Post by: Woodchuck on June 30, 2022, 02:25:03 PM
You can also swap coils from one cylinder to another and see if the miss moves to a different cylinder, if it does, you need a coil.
Post by: thinkingman on June 30, 2022, 02:54:43 PM
Post by: Woodchuck on June 30, 2022, 03:03:22 PM
Post by: Fidelk on June 30, 2022, 03:30:43 PM
Post by: JakeLand on July 01, 2022, 06:45:57 AM
Post by: SeaRun1 on July 01, 2022, 07:47:02 AM
Thanks all.
SR1
Post by: Sandberm on July 01, 2022, 08:19:31 AM
I'm dying to know what the actual problem(s) is/are. All the responses make sense to me. Not that I know much about mechanicing.Me too.
Sorry, couldnt help my self...here's the list of suggestions from all the replies...so far, good luck! :chuckle:
-obstruction in fuel line
-fuel filter
-head gasket
-intake manifold gasket
-clean the throttle body
-spark plug wire
-coil pack
-mass air flow sensor
-throttle position sensor
-check for lose ground wire
-fuel pump
-vacuum line
annnnnnd
-injectors
Looks like a potential office betting pool checker board of ideas on what is wrong with your rig :chuckle:
Post by: Woodchuck on July 01, 2022, 08:27:44 AM
Post by: fishngamereaper on July 01, 2022, 08:31:52 AM
Post by: Sandberm on July 01, 2022, 08:36:37 AM
-bad positive battery cable ...
There, I contributed to the clutter of ideas. I hope Searun doesnt have ADD :chuckle:
Post by: highside74 on July 01, 2022, 09:54:08 AM
Good luck with your rig.
Time to get me a new Tacoma TRD off road.
Post by: Woodchuck on July 11, 2022, 10:41:43 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on July 11, 2022, 12:07:34 PM
Post by: HntnFsh on July 11, 2022, 12:11:28 PM
Just saw a 1996 tacoma for sale where I'm working, nice looking truck. I asked the guy what he was asking for it......9,750 American dollars. lol, isn't that year notorious for the head gaskets blowing?
Not that I remember.
Post by: trophyhunt on July 11, 2022, 12:14:47 PM
Oh, that's good. Is that the going price for that truck??? 26 years old!!Just saw a 1996 tacoma for sale where I'm working, nice looking truck. I asked the guy what he was asking for it......9,750 American dollars. lol, isn't that year notorious for the head gaskets blowing?
Not that I remember.
Post by: teanawayslayer on July 11, 2022, 12:28:07 PM
not that year it was the pre 95 with the 3.0.Oh, that's good. Is that the going price for that truck??? 26 years old!!Just saw a 1996 tacoma for sale where I'm working, nice looking truck. I asked the guy what he was asking for it......9,750 American dollars. lol, isn't that year notorious for the head gaskets blowing?
Not that I remember.
Post by: HntnFsh on July 11, 2022, 02:25:45 PM
not that year it was the pre 95 with the 3.0.Oh, that's good. Is that the going price for that truck??? 26 years old!!Just saw a 1996 tacoma for sale where I'm working, nice looking truck. I asked the guy what he was asking for it......9,750 American dollars. lol, isn't that year notorious for the head gaskets blowing?
Not that I remember.
That's what I remember. Did head gaskets on one of those once. Emphasis on once! :chuckle:
Post by: thinkingman on July 11, 2022, 03:01:37 PM
That's the wishing price for that truck but remember the old adage...There's a sucker born every minute.Oh, that's good. Is that the going price for that truck??? 26 years old!!Just saw a 1996 tacoma for sale where I'm working, nice looking truck. I asked the guy what he was asking for it......9,750 American dollars. lol, isn't that year notorious for the head gaskets blowing?
Not that I remember.
Post by: trophyhunt on July 11, 2022, 04:23:26 PM
Talked with a buddy of mine who knows those trucks well, he says that's a steal. He was saying those trucks are going for 10 to 12 grand, a buddy of his just paid 11,500 for the same truck. unreal, I guess i'm just to old school because that should be a 2,500 truck.That's the wishing price for that truck but remember the old adage...There's a sucker born every minute.Oh, that's good. Is that the going price for that truck??? 26 years old!!Just saw a 1996 tacoma for sale where I'm working, nice looking truck. I asked the guy what he was asking for it......9,750 American dollars. lol, isn't that year notorious for the head gaskets blowing?
Not that I remember.
Post by: MeepDog on July 12, 2022, 08:17:57 AM
The same people paying 12k for a clapped tacoma are spending half a million on a cookie cutter house. Have fun being a slave to the debt. :bdid:Talked with a buddy of mine who knows those trucks well, he says that's a steal. He was saying those trucks are going for 10 to 12 grand, a buddy of his just paid 11,500 for the same truck. unreal, I guess i'm just to old school because that should be a 2,500 truck.That's the wishing price for that truck but remember the old adage...There's a sucker born every minute.Oh, that's good. Is that the going price for that truck??? 26 years old!!Just saw a 1996 tacoma for sale where I'm working, nice looking truck. I asked the guy what he was asking for it......9,750 American dollars. lol, isn't that year notorious for the head gaskets blowing?
Not that I remember.
Post by: thinkingman on July 12, 2022, 08:22:30 AM
In the stock market, that's called 'The Greater Fool Theory'.The same people paying 12k for a clapped tacoma are spending half a million on a cookie cutter house. Have fun being a slave to the debt. :bdid:Talked with a buddy of mine who knows those trucks well, he says that's a steal. He was saying those trucks are going for 10 to 12 grand, a buddy of his just paid 11,500 for the same truck. unreal, I guess i'm just to old school because that should be a 2,500 truck.That's the wishing price for that truck but remember the old adage...There's a sucker born every minute.Oh, that's good. Is that the going price for that truck??? 26 years old!!Just saw a 1996 tacoma for sale where I'm working, nice looking truck. I asked the guy what he was asking for it......9,750 American dollars. lol, isn't that year notorious for the head gaskets blowing?
Not that I remember.
That and the Toyota Koolaid are powerful.
Post by: JakeLand on July 12, 2022, 08:26:32 AM
or the saying built ford tough !!In the stock market, that's called 'The Greater Fool Theory'.The same people paying 12k for a clapped tacoma are spending half a million on a cookie cutter house. Have fun being a slave to the debt. :bdid:Talked with a buddy of mine who knows those trucks well, he says that's a steal. He was saying those trucks are going for 10 to 12 grand, a buddy of his just paid 11,500 for the same truck. unreal, I guess i'm just to old school because that should be a 2,500 truck.That's the wishing price for that truck but remember the old adage...There's a sucker born every minute.Oh, that's good. Is that the going price for that truck??? 26 years old!!Just saw a 1996 tacoma for sale where I'm working, nice looking truck. I asked the guy what he was asking for it......9,750 American dollars. lol, isn't that year notorious for the head gaskets blowing?
Not that I remember.
That and the Toyota Koolaid are powerful.
Post by: SeaRun1 on July 13, 2022, 11:19:06 AM
Sorry for not getting back sooner. After cleaning the throttle body and mass air flow sensor I still got the cylinder 4 misfire. I switched the coil around and it ran better briefly but went back to sputtering. I was hoping to see a different cylinder misfire so I could pinpoint the coil but it didn’t show a code again.
I just ordered a set of coils and new spark plug wires and installed them. The truck is running well again. Have driven it around for the last few days and it runs fine.
Appreciate all of the help. Now I need to sell it. It does have a slow coolant leak and I have used this truck as my daily driver and fun truck since 1997. It has not towed much as 8 have a 2011 Tundra for that.
So it is a 1996 Toyota Tacoma Deluxe (chrome power mirrors and such, sunroof) with 226 k on it. I was told there were not many of these deluxes made in 96. Anyways has a Leer canopy and is a five speed manual. Running boards need replacing as well as the antenna. I still get about 17 mpg around town and 19-20 when I drive to Long Beach.
Any ideas what I should reasonably ask for it? It’s not a garage queen but it would be cool to see someone get it that appreciates it and might want to work on it to improve it.
Thanks again for all the replies.
SR1
Post by: SeaRun1 on July 13, 2022, 11:23:08 AM
Post by: Sandberm on July 13, 2022, 11:48:35 AM
I'm in for 20 on the coil square. 8)
I believe you won :chuckle:
Checks in the mail. :tung:
Post by: Angry Perch on July 13, 2022, 03:14:14 PM
The same people paying 12k for a clapped tacoma are spending half a million on a cookie cutter house. Have fun being a slave to the debt. :bdid:Talked with a buddy of mine who knows those trucks well, he says that's a steal. He was saying those trucks are going for 10 to 12 grand, a buddy of his just paid 11,500 for the same truck. unreal, I guess i'm just to old school because that should be a 2,500 truck.That's the wishing price for that truck but remember the old adage...There's a sucker born every minute.Oh, that's good. Is that the going price for that truck??? 26 years old!!Just saw a 1996 tacoma for sale where I'm working, nice looking truck. I asked the guy what he was asking for it......9,750 American dollars. lol, isn't that year notorious for the head gaskets blowing?
Not that I remember.
Half a million for a house? Hell, I'll take 2 at that price!
Post by: thinkingman on July 18, 2022, 12:20:20 PM
I don't know if that motor has individual coil packs but that's where I would look if I had an individual cylinder misfire.Who was the first one to suggest coil pack?
Yup, the guy who knows nothing about Toyotas..... :chuckle:
Post by: borntoslay on July 19, 2022, 10:41:42 PM
Crazy what rigs are going for. I got into an accident in April. Some girl pulled in front of me and totaled my 91 gmc sierra 142,000 miles. Bought it in 2016 for $2500 cash with 83,000 original miles (farm truck) Her insurance paid me $9600 for it. I was shocked. Took the money and ranTalked with a buddy of mine who knows those trucks well, he says that's a steal. He was saying those trucks are going for 10 to 12 grand, a buddy of his just paid 11,500 for the same truck. unreal, I guess i'm just to old school because that should be a 2,500 truck.That's the wishing price for that truck but remember the old adage...There's a sucker born every minute.Oh, that's good. Is that the going price for that truck??? 26 years old!!Just saw a 1996 tacoma for sale where I'm working, nice looking truck. I asked the guy what he was asking for it......9,750 American dollars. lol, isn't that year notorious for the head gaskets blowing?
Not that I remember.
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Post by: Tenkara on July 20, 2022, 09:41:23 AM
Hey guys,
Trying to see if I can fix this on my own before taking it to a mechanic. A couple of years ago I developed a stuttering/hesitation problem with my Tacoma. We did a general tune up and replaced a lot of things like spark plugs and cables, thermostat and a few other things I cannot remember. My buddy that works on cars helped me as I do my oil changes and brakes but not much beyond that.
It fixed the problem for a few years but now I am getting it worse. I can’t really drive it to far it hesitates so bad. It starts and idles fine. Any thoughts?
Where should I start?
Thanks
SR1
I had the same problem with my 97, it ended up being a bad injector.
Post by: Knocker of rocks on July 20, 2022, 10:48:05 AM