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Title: Cellular game camera
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on July 10, 2022, 07:25:07 PM
I have owned 3 cameras in the past.
Cannot remember brands, but the first one quit after 3 months.
The second one lasted 3 years before I had an issue.
It was acting like it worked, but "files were corrupted" and I was only able to retrieve about 10% off of my sd card.
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Thinking it was the SD card, I got a new one.
I tested it at home, and it worked fine.
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Next time I checked it I had a bunch of pictures, but when I tried to see them,  :bash:
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So I bought a new one off of Camofire, used it in my backyard for a few weeks, and it was awesome.
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I went and set it up to take some pictures.
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All excited to see what's on my new camera, I take the trip to go check it.
Then I hike in to check it.
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ITS GONE!
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My cable lock and bear box, bolt cut padlock laying on the ground.
Holes in the tree from my screws....
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I gave up.
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After having my whole camp stolen (off of private property behind a locked gate)  :'(


 I want one that transmits pictures to my phone.
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Even if they steal it, I'll find out who they were.
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And I won't have to drive, and hike, into the spot to check it.
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Win/win!
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So, if you had say...$300 max.
I like the idea of 2 cameras.
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Most reliable?
Battery life?
Doesn't require a specific data carrier.
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I have have a cheap phone and phone service.
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Title: Re: Cellular game camera
Post by: salmosalar on July 10, 2022, 07:49:04 PM
I have had several stolen off of private property pretty close to you. One issue is that the cell reception is poor where the cameras are. I will be watching this thread. It would be great to find the dude who has all of my cameras.
It is super frustrating. It seems like there is a tremendous amount of camera theft in Lewis Co. west of I-5. Maybe it is that way everywhere.
Title: Re: Cellular game camera
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on July 10, 2022, 08:04:18 PM
I actually will not be putting up a camera in Lewis county.
(Learned my lesson)
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The area I plan is in Pacific county, and on Hancock land.
Access is limited, but cell phone works everywhere.
Title: Re: Cellular game camera
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on July 10, 2022, 08:09:11 PM
Actually, my "cheap" plan usually works better than others, because it uses available towers it can get a signal, not just one.
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And I am not too far from "radar ridge"
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Title: Re: Cellular game camera
Post by: 253shotgunner on July 10, 2022, 09:32:02 PM
Tagging along to see what cell camera to get -253sg
Title: Re: Cellular game camera
Post by: jrebel on July 10, 2022, 09:41:54 PM
I've been plenty happy with my spypoint.  If you don't get a solar charging battery version or external battery with solar panel....they eat through batteries. 
Title: Re: Cellular game camera
Post by: pickardjw on July 10, 2022, 10:54:32 PM
I just placed my first two this weekend, but I bought Tactacam Reveal X's (think they just go by Reveal now). I'm pretty impressed with how easy they were to setup and the app functionality. One thing that's awesome is you can connect to it while you're next to it and it will show on your phone the view. No more guessing, "is it aimed right?" I'm on the $8/month/cam plan, 500 photos.

My buddy's stealthcams have been reliable. Only failure was when the tree it was attached to blew down...think you can get those on Camofire on Tuesday's as well but they don't come with a cellular data card.

Pay attention to the instructions. Cameras can be very specific on SD card size and other metrics. The Reveal X's require a Class 10 U3 card that's either 16GB or 32GB. And, as mentioned previously, make sure there's service in the areas you want to place them. The antennas are better than your phone apparently, but not THAT much better.
Title: Re: Cellular game camera
Post by: huntnnw on July 11, 2022, 12:03:22 AM
I just put out my first cell cam yesterday. Tactacam XB. easy to setup will see how it works
Title: Re: Cellular game camera
Post by: spoonman on July 11, 2022, 05:04:17 AM
I switched to tactacam reveal x a couple years ago and they are an amazing cam for $100.
Title: Re: Cellular game camera
Post by: phildobaggins on July 11, 2022, 08:32:43 AM
I switched to tactacam reveal x a couple years ago and they are an amazing cam for $100.

 :yeah:
Title: Re: Cellular game camera
Post by: salmosalar on July 11, 2022, 08:57:04 AM
Some of my cameras have been stolen on trails on my friends property. Others have been stolen when they were used to see who was dumping garbage. It seems like the garbage dumpers may be seeing a light on the camera? Could that be the case? If so, are there cameras made that are not easily seen at night?
I live a ways away from the property. My friend who owns it sets up the cameras. We have had a bunch stolen. The ones that are there for game have been safer although some have been jacked. The ones used for security purposes have been immediately stolen. This pisses me off. The people steeling them dump whole cars on the property. The cameras are just money. The dumping is complete BS. It is theft of time and money. I dislike people steeling time more than anything. I can't make more time.

We just need to find out who they are. Any thoughts?


Title: Re: Cellular game camera
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on July 11, 2022, 09:01:32 AM
Any other brands I should add to the poll?
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I reset the count because I am sure there are others that might be what I am looking for.
Title: Re: Cellular game camera
Post by: phildobaggins on July 11, 2022, 09:09:50 AM
Some of my cameras have been stolen on trails on my friends property. Others have been stolen when they were used to see who was dumping garbage. It seems like the garbage dumpers may be seeing a light on the camera? Could that be the case? If so, are there cameras made that are not easily seen at night?
I live a ways away from the property. My friend who owns it sets up the cameras. We have had a bunch stolen. The ones that are there for game have been safer although some have been jacked. The ones used for security purposes have been immediately stolen. This pisses me off. The people steeling them dump whole cars on the property. The cameras are just money. The dumping is complete BS. It is theft of time and money. I dislike people steeling time more than anything. I can't make more time.

We just need to find out who they are. Any thoughts?

Climb the tree and put the cameras 20' up pointing down. No one will steal them if they can't get to them. If you use a cell cam up in the tree pointed down, you'll see who is going for the cam if they're trying to climb it. My tactacam has sent me pictures within 30 seconds of an animal walking by, so you'd get the picture.
Title: Re: Cellular game camera
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on July 11, 2022, 09:24:43 AM
Yeah, I plan on using tree steps to hang.
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When they stole my tent the even took security lights that were mounted on a pole.
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But after they removed the hinge from the gate they were able to drive right to it.
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Wish I would have had a "ring" camera.
Title: Re: Cellular game camera
Post by: pickardjw on July 11, 2022, 09:39:56 AM
Just got my first round of pictures from the Reveal X. Very happy with it so far. Except I didn't have the settings right and used 10% of my monthly pics already :chuckle: Just set the delay on them appropriately from my desk at work. Love that.

Had to turn the notifications off too. Even on the daily send setting it sent a notification for each picture.
Title: Re: Cellular game camera
Post by: Machias on July 11, 2022, 11:09:10 AM
I've had a Spartan No Glow for 6 years and it has now taken 46,000 photos.  Love it, but it is/was a bit expensive.  I now have three Spypoint Micros.  For $100 buck each they do a good job.  I have one that I only have it send all the photos once a day at 0600.  The other two sends them every 2 hours which greatly helps with battery life.
Title: Re: Cellular game camera
Post by: salmosalar on July 11, 2022, 04:14:27 PM
So we figure that the dudes that are steeling the cam's are seeing the flash/ glow. I am assuming a no glow camera will solve the issue. There is no cell service at all where it is happening.
Any suggestions on the best value for no glow cameras?
Also, does anyone have a camera or 2 that does not work. I'm happy to pay for shipping. 
Spy vs. spy
Title: Re: Cellular game camera
Post by: huntnnw on July 11, 2022, 10:05:54 PM
I have seen more cameras in the woods hiking than I can count and never once spotted one because of flash or lights. Spotted it cause it was not hidden
Title: Re: Cellular game camera
Post by: Onewhohikes on July 12, 2022, 05:53:37 AM
Count to what 1 or 2!! :chuckle:
Title: Re: Cellular game camera
Post by: HuntandFish on July 12, 2022, 06:40:34 AM
Why I Cuddleback or cuddle link? Not one you guys use? Are the others that much better? I have a network of 3 and about to add a few more for my property and they seem to work fine? Picture quality isn’t the best, but not horrible. And seems to have good battery life. Been happy with them. But maybe I should switch to a better set up? Do they all have options to link multiple cameras together?

H&F
Title: Re: Cellular game camera
Post by: hunter399 on July 12, 2022, 07:38:53 AM
I used a moultrie cell cam last year.
It did work ok ....as far as cell service,taking pics,and function.
No matter the settings it just drains batterys,internal or external battery.
So between the battery,and cost of service....
I can maintain all my regular trail cams for the year.
No way I'm out of the cell cam game.
I do still use it as a regular trail cam without service.
I can't set the date and time cause that's set by your service .
But oh well .
Title: Re: Cellular game camera
Post by: huntnnw on July 12, 2022, 08:30:18 AM
Did a lot of research before I bought a cell cam. Tactacam seem to be the best one in my eyes from quality , ease of setup and actually work. A solar panel to me is a must as it sounds like you may get close to a year out of batteries with it.
Title: Re: Cellular game camera
Post by: salmosalar on July 12, 2022, 10:06:27 AM
I have seen more cameras in the woods hiking than I can count and never once spotted one because of flash or lights. Spotted it cause it was not hidden

I am sure that is true. In this case, they are taking them when they drop off garbage at night. That's why I think the glow/ light matters. I doubt it makes a difference for cameras seen in the daylight.

The trail cameras used for game aren't hidden well at all. It's private ground so you really should not have to. I guess that we have to though.
Title: Re: Cellular game camera
Post by: Machias on July 12, 2022, 11:51:21 AM
I have seen more cameras in the woods hiking than I can count and never once spotted one because of flash or lights. Spotted it cause it was not hidden

 :yeah:
Title: Re: Cellular game camera
Post by: Machias on July 12, 2022, 11:58:06 AM
I have seen more cameras in the woods hiking than I can count and never once spotted one because of flash or lights. Spotted it cause it was not hidden

I am sure that is true. In this case, they are taking them when they drop off garbage at night. That's why I think the glow/ light matters. I doubt it makes a difference for cameras seen in the daylight.

The trail cameras used for game aren't hidden well at all. It's private ground so you really should not have to. I guess that we have to though.

Yes the No Glow does not give off any light at night.  I think a couple of things would/will help with theft.  First off the Trail Camera Industry could pretty much end thefts if they would make all the cameras need a pin code to access.  There is no point stealing my Spartan, because you have to have the code to turn it on or make any adjustments.  Also with the Spypoint Micros you can report it stolen and I believe they disable it...not sure as I have not had to test that yet.  So far I have only had a regular trail camera stolen, a Moultrie, but it was set up waist level, also on Private grounds.  I also think if you get your camera up higher than they can reach, most will go undetected and or they will not bother them when they are out of reach.  Certainly they could still come back with steps or even cut the tree down if they want it bad enough, but most don't want to hang around in the area that long.
Title: Re: Cellular game camera
Post by: hunter399 on July 12, 2022, 12:11:11 PM
I have seen more cameras in the woods hiking than I can count and never once spotted one because of flash or lights. Spotted it cause it was not hidden

I am sure that is true. In this case, they are taking them when they drop off garbage at night. That's why I think the glow/ light matters. I doubt it makes a difference for cameras seen in the daylight.

The trail cameras used for game aren't hidden well at all. It's private ground so you really should not have to. I guess that we have to though.

Yes the No Glow does not give off any light at night.  I think a couple of things would/will help with theft.  First off the Trail Camera Industry could pretty much end thefts if they would make all the cameras need a pin code to access.  There is no point stealing my Spartan, because you have to have the code to turn it on or make any adjustments.  Also with the Spypoint Micros you can report it stolen and I believe they disable it...not sure as I have not had to test that yet.  So far I have only had a regular trail camera stolen, a Moultrie, but it was set up waist level, also on Private grounds.  I also think if you get your camera up higher than they can reach, most will go undetected and or they will not bother them when they are out of reach.  Certainly they could still come back with steps or even cut the tree down if they want it bad enough, but most don't want to hang around in the area that long.
All of my cams have some kone of lock,cable,box,and up high if possible. I carry tree stand steps with me,and keys.
Kinda of a pain ,standing on tree steps and going through a key ring of keys to figure out what key you need.
My basic list is.
Blank SD cards,so I don't run my memory downloading photo
Tree steps
Keys
Extra batterys
Card reader.

Just the basics.
Title: Re: Cellular game camera
Post by: Farmer72 on July 12, 2022, 12:15:21 PM
I have seen more cameras in the woods hiking than I can count and never once spotted one because of flash or lights. Spotted it cause it was not hidden

I am sure that is true. In this case, they are taking them when they drop off garbage at night. That's why I think the glow/ light matters. I doubt it makes a difference for cameras seen in the daylight.

The trail cameras used for game aren't hidden well at all. It's private ground so you really should not have to. I guess that we have to though.

Yes the No Glow does not give off any light at night.  I think a couple of things would/will help with theft.  First off the Trail Camera Industry could pretty much end thefts if they would make all the cameras need a pin code to access.  There is no point stealing my Spartan, because you have to have the code to turn it on or make any adjustments.  Also with the Spypoint Micros you can report it stolen and I believe they disable it...not sure as I have not had to test that yet.  So far I have only had a regular trail camera stolen, a Moultrie, but it was set up waist level, also on Private grounds.  I also think if you get your camera up higher than they can reach, most will go undetected and or they will not bother them when they are out of reach.  Certainly they could still come back with steps or even cut the tree down if they want it bad enough, but most don't want to hang around in the area that long.

The pin numbers would work for people that are stealing them to use but not the ones that get stolen because people are doing something they're not supposed to and steal them to get rid of the evidence.
Title: Re: Cellular game camera
Post by: Machias on July 12, 2022, 12:38:54 PM
I have seen more cameras in the woods hiking than I can count and never once spotted one because of flash or lights. Spotted it cause it was not hidden

I am sure that is true. In this case, they are taking them when they drop off garbage at night. That's why I think the glow/ light matters. I doubt it makes a difference for cameras seen in the daylight.

The trail cameras used for game aren't hidden well at all. It's private ground so you really should not have to. I guess that we have to though.

Yes the No Glow does not give off any light at night.  I think a couple of things would/will help with theft.  First off the Trail Camera Industry could pretty much end thefts if they would make all the cameras need a pin code to access.  There is no point stealing my Spartan, because you have to have the code to turn it on or make any adjustments.  Also with the Spypoint Micros you can report it stolen and I believe they disable it...not sure as I have not had to test that yet.  So far I have only had a regular trail camera stolen, a Moultrie, but it was set up waist level, also on Private grounds.  I also think if you get your camera up higher than they can reach, most will go undetected and or they will not bother them when they are out of reach.  Certainly they could still come back with steps or even cut the tree down if they want it bad enough, but most don't want to hang around in the area that long.

The pin numbers would work for people that are stealing them to use but not the ones that get stolen because people are doing something they're not supposed to and steal them to get rid of the evidence.

Agreed, but I think the vast majority are stealing them to use elsewhere.
Title: Re: Cellular game camera
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on July 12, 2022, 12:51:07 PM
What I am confused about that if it says "Verizon" is it only compatible with Verizon subscriptions?
Title: Re: Cellular game camera
Post by: pickardjw on July 12, 2022, 12:57:51 PM
Subscriptions should be the same, it's just the service provider. In the area I put two this weekend, I knew my Verizon phone got service up there so I bought that camera/card combo. But if AT&T had better service up there I'd buy that cambera/card combo.
Title: Re: Cellular game camera
Post by: salmosalar on July 12, 2022, 02:00:35 PM
I have seen more cameras in the woods hiking than I can count and never once spotted one because of flash or lights. Spotted it cause it was not hidden

I am sure that is true. In this case, they are taking them when they drop off garbage at night. That's why I think the glow/ light matters. I doubt it makes a difference for cameras seen in the daylight.

Yah. In our case they are stolen because people are trespassing, dumping garbage, probably dealing some drugs, and also they get free cameras. It's all of it. Isn't that dandy! Honestly, I can afford new cameras. Since my buddy has a sick wife, the theft of time in the form of him dealing with the dumping is really what gets my goat. You learn that time is the most valuable thing at some point. These dudes are stealing time. That is not OK.

The trail cameras used for game aren't hidden well at all. It's private ground so you really should not have to. I guess that we have to though.

Yes the No Glow does not give off any light at night.  I think a couple of things would/will help with theft.  First off the Trail Camera Industry could pretty much end thefts if they would make all the cameras need a pin code to access.  There is no point stealing my Spartan, because you have to have the code to turn it on or make any adjustments.  Also with the Spypoint Micros you can report it stolen and I believe they disable it...not sure as I have not had to test that yet.  So far I have only had a regular trail camera stolen, a Moultrie, but it was set up waist level, also on Private grounds.  I also think if you get your camera up higher than they can reach, most will go undetected and or they will not bother them when they are out of reach.  Certainly they could still come back with steps or even cut the tree down if they want it bad enough, but most don't want to hang around in the area that long.

The pin numbers would work for people that are stealing them to use but not the ones that get stolen because people are doing something they're not supposed to and steal them to get rid of the evidence.

Agreed, but I think the vast majority are stealing them to use elsewhere.
Title: Re: Cellular game camera
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on July 12, 2022, 03:27:17 PM
I ordered the 2 pack of Tactacam reveal xb cameras.
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I was attracted to the no glow, and gps tracking ability.
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Especially the gps tracking ability...
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Title: Re: Cellular game camera
Post by: huntnnw on July 12, 2022, 04:02:12 PM
Tactacam cam comes with AT&T and Verizon SIM cards and use which one works better for the area you place it. The Tactacam is useless to a person who steals it. I can see camera on Google maps. The cam is setup from a app on my phone and only to me. I can deactivate from my phone. Basically someone would steal it cause it’s a camera or they are not suppose to be there.
Title: Re: Cellular game camera
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on July 12, 2022, 05:28:47 PM
Tactacam cam comes with AT&T and Verizon SIM cards and use which one works better for the area you place it. The Tactacam is useless to a person who steals it. I can see camera on Google maps. The cam is setup from a app on my phone and only to me. I can deactivate from my phone. Basically someone would steal it cause it’s a camera or they are suppose to be there.

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Just ordered 2 because of that feature.
Title: Re: Cellular game camera
Post by: 253shotgunner on July 12, 2022, 06:38:50 PM
Where did you buy it from? Any deals?

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Title: Re: Cellular game camera
Post by: huntnnw on July 13, 2022, 01:06:23 AM
Sportsmans was selling the XB model from $150 to $120 last week. Tacticam was selling a 2 pack for $200 recently, but do not know if that is still going
Title: Re: Cellular game camera
Post by: Machias on July 15, 2022, 01:52:03 PM
Tacticam will be my next purchase.  Thanks for the recommendation.
Title: Re: Cellular game camera
Post by: pickardjw on July 15, 2022, 02:20:46 PM
So far my Reveal X's have been doing great. 1300 pictures in less than a week though  :yike: Adjusted to a 3 minute delay between picture sets.

I've also been turning down the motion sensitivity. I aimed both north as much as possible but I'm still getting sun glare triggers and other random photos that are maybe from tree shadows blowing in the wind.

A lot of those 1300 are deer though!  :IBCOOL:
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