Post by: Camo on July 28, 2022, 10:43:38 PM
Post by: Scruffy on July 29, 2022, 12:56:20 AM
Post by: follow maggie on July 29, 2022, 06:36:32 AM
Post by: GWP on July 29, 2022, 06:39:34 AM
We bought a SXS and quickly discovered that you get very dusty in them if you drive in dry dusty conditions. Ours was not fully closed in but from what I get from others is unless you get one that is basically a 'mini car' and has a COMPLETELY sealed up cab, bottom side as well, you get dusty.
You are limited where you can drive them, road wise, even though most will do 50-60 plus opened up.
Ours came out to live close to the ocean, and it very quickly turned into a rust bucket, while the cars have faired better under the same conditions. Our Travel Trailer corroded badly as well.
Different quality of metal? Better protection? I know cars and trucks deteriorate faster than 'normal' here though.
They are handy though. Smaller than a car, short. I considered a Suzuki Samari or small Jeep, and would go that way if I could do it over.
Post by: buckfvr on July 29, 2022, 09:04:24 AM
Post by: jrebel on July 29, 2022, 09:31:05 AM
The bad……a jeep will do better in deep snow. If you plan on hunting deep snow, a foot or more, but a jeep or get tracks for the side by side. Otherwise the side by side will outperform most jeeps in all other conditions, to include mud.
If you need a rig for daily driving…..jeep all the way. If you want a great nimble hunting rig….side by side all the way. Just my two cents having owned both.
Post by: huntandjeep on July 29, 2022, 07:34:12 PM
I have owned both. I still own my side by side. The jeeps are cool and all but they have their limitations as well. A good side by side can be had for 15-20k. A lot of guys buy the sportiest model out there that will do 0-60 in a half second, yadda yadda yadda……. Get a good utility / sport crossover and they work great for hunting situations. A Honda pioneer 1000 (4 seater) would fit the bill nicely. They are street legal in Washington where speeds are 35 mph or less. The do very well on dirt roads. They trailer super nice. They get good fuel economy. You can get heaters for them. You can fully enclose them if you want.
The bad……a jeep will do better in deep snow. If you plan on hunting deep snow, a foot or more, but a jeep or get tracks for the side by side. Otherwise the side by side will outperform most jeeps in all other conditions, to include mud.
If you need a rig for daily driving…..jeep all the way. If you want a great nimble hunting rig….side by side all the way. Just my two cents having owned both.
Agree . I own both right now a highly modified TJ and a 22 Polaris General xp4 . Both serve different purposes. My Tj I can drive anywhere I want , my SXS is street legal but need to stay ( not saying I haven't Blasted from Gold Creek to Little Naches up 410 :chuckle:) on 35mph rds ( although LEO doesn't really inforce that around here ) . I have a heater and full cab for the SXS . It's nice in early spring and late fall , summer I just remove the door uppers and don't have a dust problem. Jeep does way better in deeper snow ( ARB lockers and Beadlocks help also ) will probably wind up with tracks for SXS eventually , when I sell my snowmobiles . Around here I hunt out of my Jeep . In Montana we use a Can Am Defender . Couple years back we were able to access areas that the drifts kept rigs out of .
Post by: NOCK NOCK on July 29, 2022, 07:47:39 PM
Buy 1 of each, problem solved. :chuckle:
Post by: Ridgeratt on July 29, 2022, 08:04:21 PM
Posted a craigslist ad in classifieds
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,272634.0.html
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on July 29, 2022, 08:19:26 PM
Post by: Camo on July 29, 2022, 08:54:22 PM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on July 29, 2022, 08:58:08 PM
The sxs is much more comfortable for 4 adults offroad. Goes anywhere worry free. Turn around anywhere just a joy to hunt out of - way better visibility and heat/AC defrost rivals or surpasses the jeep. Street legal in Montana, can use in some usfs forests in Oregon and most in Montana. WA few places you can use it.
My jeep tows the SxS to the hunting area and we pile in the SxS where legal to do so.
If you can only get one get the jeep. If you can get a hard cab SXS you won’t give it up.
Size - the Can Am has a lot more room than a Jeep - my son is 6’4 and can wear a cowboy hat in it!
But I had an XP 1000 sxs with soft cab before this - would not go sxs without a hard cab. Not Good.
Post by: Alchase on July 29, 2022, 09:53:40 PM
I like the idea of a nice side by side, but with the good ones we’ll over $10k, then You need a trailer and a truck to pull it.
I would rather have mid-sized pickup (that I have) or a Jeep Rubicon, with heat and AC, and out of the rain.
I have been looking at the Honda Mule and the John Deere Gator as a work horse around the yard though.
Post by: Twispriver on July 30, 2022, 01:17:09 PM
Post by: Mudman on July 30, 2022, 01:53:18 PM
Hey all, why would I buy a $25k enclosed SxS vs a decent $12k Jeep for hunting? I know the SxS is going to ride better over rough roads and is about half the towing weight. Will the SxS perform much better in deep snow or the slop in E. MT/ WY when it rains? I'm not a weekend rider, just looking for something to get me from point A to B in the less desirable road conditions during hunting season and scouting, without needing a new paint job on my pavement princess. Thanks for any thoughts.Based on your list=100% cheap Jeep. SXS for fun, trails, sand, beaches, desert etc. SXS more fun, versatile and much more capable. Jeeps will NOT go every where sxs will unless modified a lot. Jeep better in deep mud and snow however. :twocents:
Post by: 2MANY on July 30, 2022, 02:06:28 PM
Soooo I've weighed my needs and will be buying a new fully enclosed, heat/AC SXS once they can actually be delivered.
The question is which one.
Polaris or Can-Am????
Post by: Mudman on July 30, 2022, 02:26:00 PM
I have a 2019 Honda Pioneer 1000-5. Heater and aftermarket canvas enclosure. It gets used everyday, all seasons, when my family of 4 are in Idaho. During the middle of winter the heater is sub par. During summer the engine heat bakes your butt and the dust is gnarly. Mechanically is has been bomb proof with or without tracks.OH BOY!! I owned 2021 Defender max lmtd. I sold it. Nice in many ways but.... I broke front axles like a fat kid eats cake. 3rd time was the charm. Diff went as well. AC is good enough. Heat and other is great. Nice utv but not built strong enough imop. Polaris Northstar riding partner has 2019 with around 3k miles. It has been through clutch, 2 front diffs, rear transdiff 2x's, drivelines and many belts 2 axles. 2021 Rangers have adressed these and are much better which garnished my attention even though I not Polaris fan. Much improved and better then Canam now. I would 1000% buy the Po Po pooper! :chuckle: However they not taking orders for it and are 12months behind in delay. None in USA dealerships except 2 I found in Cali. I refer to Northstar 6 seat models. I can steer ya to San Diego dealer who have 2 but California has put stop sale order on em due to emissions or sumthing?? It possible in future to maybe get 1 of only 2 left in USA, so I was told and found to be likley true.
Soooo I've weighed my needs and will be buying a new fully enclosed, heat/AC SXS once they can actually be delivered.
The question is which one.
Polaris or Can-Am????
Post by: Magnum_Willys on July 30, 2022, 04:13:31 PM
Post by: Mudman on July 30, 2022, 06:04:45 PM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on July 30, 2022, 06:09:04 PM
Recreational trail riding. Not extreme abuse. Naches trail for example, up top before the meadow and cabin. Snap. Can Am visco lok diff system is total complete garbage imop.Awww cr@p! Thanks for heads up.
Post by: Caseyd on July 30, 2022, 06:17:17 PM
Just like everything else, it’s getting to expensive. Buddy picked up a Turbo S last week and it was 49,500 out the door. :bash:
Post by: Mudman on July 30, 2022, 06:24:09 PM
Post by: CarbonHunter on July 30, 2022, 07:37:55 PM
The 2 main reasons I prefer the SXS is the better fuel mileage and the fact that I can put it in a toyhauler when I go hunting. With the jeep you are left towing a car trailer and using a tent or having a hunting partner toy the camp trailer.
I had the jeep as my hunting rig for 14 years before I bought the SXS. Now the jeep barely leaves the shop.
Post by: Alchase on July 30, 2022, 07:40:08 PM
I have both and they are equally valuable for different reasons. Jeeps are more comfortable, enclosed and warm but its really handy to have a SxS in camp, where legal, for things like fetching firewood, winching game up on the pole between trees and other camp chores.
I can see how useful one can be. And the fun factor as well. Many of my neighbors are seriously into trail riding their side X sides.
I could get into it, it I can have fun just riding my zero turn.
:chuckle:
Post by: HillHound on July 30, 2022, 08:03:36 PM
. I have a 2021 defender limited, not the max only the two door. I’ve had tracks on mine both winters I’ve had it and boy has that been a game changer. I’ve only done light trail riding during the summer but I haven’t broke anything yet. But if and when I do I plan on replacing with heavy duty aftermarket parts so hopefully I’m not continuing to replace the same ones. Just had my old ford pick up as my hunting rig before and the side-by-side has a much smoother ride even at twice the speeds. But forest service restrictions and towns that just don’t like people having fun that restrict them are a negative for them and a positive for jeeps or pick ups. But I do take mine in places I would never try to take a stock jeep or pick up so that’s a pro for the s x s. Like someone already said just get both
Post by: Mudman on July 30, 2022, 09:24:53 PM
Post by: Moose Master on July 30, 2022, 09:46:28 PM
S/S is street legal important for this state and when we travel. For Peace of mind wherever you are at spend the money on a utv pass or quad pass. Ranger was pleased to see our Montana pass and opened up about other sites around the state.
Going to change the suspension for more travel.
Already have bead locks for rims
Already have a winch which got used several times with a block.
Going to add metal skid plates
Change shocks for more travel.
We are in our late 60's and early early 70's. She will kill me with that disclosure. We bring up the rear most of the time because not interested in speed more seeing the sights. Also use quads 400 and a 500 depending on trips. Grizzly and big bear
They have worked fine for our needs, and family also uses them. If you can afford both great but if not I would go with the S/S. Good luck and have a good upcoming hunting season.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on July 30, 2022, 10:25:03 PM
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Post by: Magnum_Willys on July 31, 2022, 07:49:47 AM
https://catechusa.com/blogs/articles/halo-lockers-are-the-best-of-the-best-front-end-differential (https://catechusa.com/blogs/articles/halo-lockers-are-the-best-of-the-best-front-end-differential)
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Post by: Mudman on July 31, 2022, 09:21:30 AM
Post by: 2MANY on July 31, 2022, 10:34:01 AM
Weak corners.
Did you say they have changed stock to a 30 spline?
Post by: fishngamereaper on July 31, 2022, 11:47:50 AM
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Post by: huntandjeep on July 31, 2022, 04:02:30 PM
Post by: Southpole on July 31, 2022, 04:54:13 PM
Buy a Suzuki samurai ...that way you have both options in one rig.We tried that since the samurai was almost the same dimensions as a 900 Polaris. Ended up getting rid of the samurai. It was cramped, rattlie, bumpy, hard to get in and out… We ended up getting a Polaris 900 a few years later. Fully enclosed, heat, hard doors, windshield wiper, pretty much everything available for it minus the stereo and speakers. I wouldn’t dream of taking a Jeep or a samurai in some to the places we’ve taken that Polaris. We built an extension for our dodge dully flatbed so we can haul it with our travel trailer or pull with our side by side trailer with our f150. Pretty slick and easy for transport.
Post by: Mudman on July 31, 2022, 09:40:24 PM
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