Hunting Washington Forum
Big Game Hunting => Other Big Game => Topic started by: rasbo on May 18, 2009, 02:36:53 PM
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anyone ever get drawn for moose with 2 points..or will I be the first :chuckle:
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It happens every year...a couple times.
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if you had 2 points you will have 3 goin in this year and a buddy of mine drew the selkirk tag with 3 a coupla years ago you always have a shot its just a lot worse than all the guys who will have 14 this year
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Friend drew selkirk last year with 2 points and killed a top 5 in the state bull. Lucky SOB.
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I drew with 3
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I have had a couple hunters who drew the first year they applied.
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I drew with 3
i'm in with 3... 1 unit only.
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I drew with 3
i'm in with 3... 1 unit only.
im only putting in for 49degrees
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;)
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I drew with 3
Was 3 max?
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I know a guy who drew the first year putting in :bash:
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My brother only had three or four points when he drew. It is possable to draw anytime.
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it will be you and me both drawing with two points in for 49 north. that will just make finding a hunting partner easier
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Wow, that is amazing I drew with 12 a year ago... lucky son of a guns
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I was maxed last year but only applied for one unit each year.
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Why would you only apply for one unit? With WA being a once in a lifetime tag why even risk only trying one unit? Why waste your years as life passes you up and risk never getting drawn? I don't get it, maybe I'm missing something here.
Caretaker
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Several reasons actually that I would be glad to discuss with you face to face one day. ;)
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Caretaker, Normally I would agree with what you are saying, but in this case the unit they are talking about has the best odds of any of the bull tags so if that's their number one choice it wouldn't improve their odds of drawing by putting down a 2nd, 3rd, and/or a 4th choice.
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Spot on Bobcat, thats one of them. :tup:
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I'm going to get one of them! I'm in with 13 points :chuckle: :chuckle:
I did put in for 4 units , too. :brew:
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Let's use 8 points as the average, based on last years permits/applicants, Selkirk range has better odds the 49 Deg North.
49 Deg - 2008 Permits/2008 applicants - 26/13,792 = .18% chance of getting drawn
Selkirk Mtns - 2008 Permits/2008 applicants - 25/11,392 = .21% chance of getting drawn
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Not moose. But I know of a guy who drew the Watershed tag twice, with 0 points both times... :bash: :bash:
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Not moose. But I know of a guy who drew the Watershed tag twice, with 0 points both times... :bash: :bash:
no dude....they give you one point when you apply :chuckle:
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I know. But what I meant was that he drew the unit first try both times. 0 bonus points... Wasn't even serious, didn't kill an elk either time. Buddy talked him into it both times... :bash: :bash:
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Let's use 8 points as the average, based on last years permits/applicants, Selkirk range has better odds the 49 Deg North.
49 Deg - 2008 Permits/2008 applicants - 26/13,792 = .18% chance of getting drawn
Selkirk Mtns - 2008 Permits/2008 applicants - 25/11,392 = .21% chance of getting drawn
I prefer to do it this way:
49 Degrees: 13,788/26 = 1 in 530
Selkirk: 11,392/25 = 1 in 456
But yes you are right, Selkirk has slightly better odds. I guess I should have said something more like of the units he wants to hunt, 49 Degrees has the best odds, so in that case there's no reason to put down any more than just the one choice. The odds on 49 and Selkirk are virtually the same anyway. Look at a permit like Three Forks... the odds on that would be 1 in 1611. So if somebody wants to draw that hunt, they would want it to be their number one choice.
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Let's use 8 points as the average, based on last years permits/applicants, Selkirk range has better odds the 49 Deg North.
49 Deg - 2008 Permits/2008 applicants - 26/13,792 = .18% chance of getting drawn
Selkirk Mtns - 2008 Permits/2008 applicants - 25/11,392 = .21% chance of getting drawn
I prefer to do it this way:
49 Degrees: 13,788/26 = 1 in 530
Selkirk: 11,392/25 = 1 in 456
But yes you are right, Selkirk has slightly better odds. I guess I should have said something more like of the units he wants to hunt, 49 Degrees has the best odds, so in that case there's no reason to put down any more than just the one choice. The odds on 49 and Selkirk are virtually the same anyway. Look at a permit like Three Forks... the odds on that would be 1 in 1611. So if somebody wants to draw that hunt, they would want it to be their number one choice.
HEY!! Have you been logging on to WDFW with my Wild ID #...?? :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Why, do you have Three Forks #1, 49 Degrees #2, and Selkirk #3 ???
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Why, do you have Three Forks #1, 49 Degrees #2, and Selkirk #3 ???
Yeah, in that order...
Of course my methodology was based upon a bull I saw 5 years ago that's probably dead by now.
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My buddy drew in 2007 on the REDRAW with I think 4 points going into it and it was either his 3rd or 4th choice unit.
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Caretaker, for me if I was to draw a tag I only wanted to hunt that unit, all the reasons aside, that is why I only applied for 49DN.
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It seems though Selkirk and 49N are the most popular units--anybody know which is reputed to put out bigger bulls on the public land?
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Thanks, I was just trying to understand the logic behind applying only for one unit. For me, for moose, I selected 4 units, 49 DN being one of them but not my top choice (atleast this year).
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My buddy drew in 2007 on the REDRAW with I think 4 points going into it and it was either his 3rd or 4th choice unit.
Did he tag up? Big bull?
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He tagged a bull in the Huckleberry unit. Would not consider it a big bull by any strecth, a very tasty bull yes, not a big bull to be honest. He made up for it this past October when we went to Canada taking a beautiful bull.
To be honest he said he just felt a ton of pressure with that Moose tag in his pocket. He passed on several bulls the first four days of season, and despite having lots of time left, he dropped a very tasty young bull that was an easy pack out.
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bull that was an easy pack out.
Isn't that the best kind of moose? If I ever draw a moose tag that's what I will be looking for... the biggest bull CLOSE to a road. :chuckle:
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Caretaker, for me if I was to draw a tag I only wanted to hunt that unit, all the reasons aside, that is why I only applied for 49DN.
How big was the rack on your bull from 49DN?
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Caretaker, for me if I was to draw a tag I only wanted to hunt that unit, all the reasons aside, that is why I only applied for 49DN.
How big was the rack on your bull from 49DN?
Is that a serious question? :chuckle:
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:chuckle: :chuckle: ;)
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Uh oh
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yea I put in for 49DN and was wondering what size moose and rack I could expect to get there.
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yea I put in for 49DN and was wondering what size moose and rack I could expect to get there.
Here you go:
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,12363.0.html
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OMG no way he shot a moose without antlers? that totally bites. I guess you can't eat the antlers but sure would be nice to have them displayed on your wall!!
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I thought perhaps you were just giving him a hard time. Didn't realize you hadn't seen the story. Yeah it goes to show that if you do draw a moose tag it might be best to kill one earlier in the season.
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:chuckle:
unless you are more into shed hunting than moose hunting.
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I feel sorry for him now I might have to take him on my next Alaskan moose float hunt.
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Why would you only apply for one unit? With WA being a once in a lifetime tag why even risk only trying one unit? Why waste your years as life passes you up and risk never getting drawn? I don't get it, maybe I'm missing something here.
Caretaker
This is the first year that I have put in all four areas on my tag. I have 13 or 14 points this year. The reason that I have never done this in the past is that I really know the 49 unit very well. I grew up in that unit and know where I can find bulls that will go over 50". I dont know how many more years I will be in WA so I put in for everything this year. I still will hold out for a nice bull if I get it.
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I think phool will come on here and say he has no regrets of how his moose hunt played out, had a great time with great people and saw some great animals. there would be no need to feel bad for him and take him to alaska....
:chuckle:
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I still would need someone to pack out my moose!! :chuckle:
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OHHH....i'll go.
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Why would you only apply for one unit? With WA being a once in a lifetime tag why even risk only trying one unit? Why waste your years as life passes you up and risk never getting drawn? I don't get it, maybe I'm missing something here.
Caretaker
This is the first year that I have put in all four areas on my tag. I have 13 or 14 points this year. The reason that I have never done this in the past is that I really know the 49 unit very well. I grew up in that unit and know where I can find bulls that will go over 50". I dont know how many more years I will be in WA so I put in for everything this year. I still will hold out for a nice bull if I get it.
I still can't bring myself to put down a 4th choice. I know that I should probably put one, then just scout and bug the biologists until I get draw, but I just don't know the other areas enough to make myself put down another choice. Maybe next year if I am not concentrating on an out of state hunt like I am now.
"...don't know how many more years I will be in WA..."? That sounds ominous Teacherman. Are you planning on doing some job hunting while you are in Montana antelope hunting this year...?
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Friend drew selkirk last year with 2 points and killed a top 5 in the state bull. Lucky SOB.
Photos? Need the day dream stimulation... :rolleyes:
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:chuckle:unless you are more into shed hunting than moose hunting.
Now thats some funny chit right there :chuckle: good one Jackelope. :tup:
Actually Sky, no regrets at all. I was looking for a 50"+ bull with split brows and was prepared to go the distance to get it ( I really wanted to get my name above Dougs in the book :chuckle:)
We found the bull to do it the first weekend and I spent the rest of the time trying to get him, the opportunity just never presented itself.
As far as packing goes, M-Ray has been wanting to pack a rear quarter since I wouldn't let him pack one of mine, his back is bad and I didn't want to listen to the whining the rest of my life :chuckle: Actually it turns out to be a good thing too, he found out yesterday its worse than he thought, ruptured discs :yike:
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:chuckle:unless you are more into shed hunting than moose hunting.
Now thats some funny chit right there :chuckle: good one Jackelope. :tup:
Actually Sky, no regrets at all. I was looking for a 50"+ bull with split brows and was prepared to go the distance to get it ( I really wanted to get my name above Dougs in the book :chuckle:)
We found the bull to do it the first weekend and I spent the rest of the time trying to get him, the opportunity just never presented itself.
As far as packing goes, M-Ray has been wanting to pack a rear quarter since I wouldn't let him pack one of mine, his back is bad and I didn't want to listen to the whining the rest of my life :chuckle: Actually it turns out to be a good thing too, he found out yesterday its worse than he thought, ruptured discs :yike:
Thats not good :yike:
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ouch that bites. I know about the back thing I had a couple herniated discs. A little numbness after the surgery and load me up I am good to go. Well congrats on sticking with your goals with respect to the moose. Perhaps you will draw the raffle tag!!
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My buddy drew Mt spokane in 02 with his first ever app for anything. Friends of our family drew the first moose tag ever in WA, then somebody stole the antlers about a week later :bash:
I put in for hangman, way better odds and some giant bulls
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i drew in 2007 with one point...
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All I know is that anywhere from 1 to 13 points have not worked for me . . . . yet!!! I have a feeling this is my year. :IBCOOL: