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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: JBar on May 20, 2009, 05:35:15 AM

Title: Muzzle Break
Post by: JBar on May 20, 2009, 05:35:15 AM: Where can I get one installed locally ( Seattle Area )?

JBar
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Post by: addicted on May 20, 2009, 07:45:51 AM: or snohomish county...... :jacked: bump kinda
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Post by: thinkingman on May 20, 2009, 08:50:48 AM: Call DJ's in Bothell.
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Post by: JBar on May 20, 2009, 09:07:45 AM: I'll give DJ's a call, but I did hear that there was a guy in the Kent area that did them, anyone know of him? Or I guess I should be asking where did others get theirs done?
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Post by: HawkenBob on May 20, 2009, 09:17:28 AM: Its Bear arms. But I believe he sends them out still.
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Post by: jackelope on May 20, 2009, 09:24:38 AM: there's a guy in maple valley i think(or that general area) that guys speak highly of.

vais is the way to go though if you don't mind shipping.
http://www.muzzlebrakes.com/about.htm

do your homework first.
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Post by: Huntbear on May 20, 2009, 10:07:10 AM: there is a gunsmith in Winlock, South of Centrailia. He does good work according to some buddies, however, I have never used him.
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Post by: KillBilly on May 20, 2009, 10:15:30 AM: If you want one made and turned to match the Barrel, my gunsmith in Lacey does excellent work and at reasonable prices. If you are buying a brake and just need your barrel threaded so it screws on, then almost any smith can do that. I personally prefer the ones that appear to be part of the barrel.
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Post by: huntnphool on May 20, 2009, 10:21:08 AM: Quote
my gunsmith in Lacey does excellent work and at reasonable prices.

His name is Bill Morrow, no website

Number is 360-491-4310
Usually does not open shop until after 1:00 or so.. call before going....he is in Lacey about 5-10 minutes from Cabelas parking lot, just in case you feel like spending some money

I'm with KB, I like the look of them having come from the factory :twocents:
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Post by: JoshT on May 20, 2009, 10:37:06 AM: Mike Palazzo in Covington does excellent work also... he's done two break installs for me... and both were done very well.
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Post by: jackelope on May 20, 2009, 10:38:25 AM: Quote from: JoshT on May 20, 2009, 10:37:06 AM
Mike Palazzo in Covington does excellent work also... he's done two break installs for me... and both were done very well.

thats who i was thinking of.
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Post by: Huntbear on May 20, 2009, 10:40:39 AM: I love the Vais brakes. They really work well, are not overly long, compared to some.

Just remember, no matter what type of brake you use, keep people from standing to the side of you when shooting, the blast is bad even with ear muffs on.
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Post by: JBar on May 20, 2009, 06:18:03 PM: Thanks guys! I want to keep the business local if at all possible and I definately want one that's part of the barrel, I dont like the looks of the screw on types. Is this the type that Palazzo and Morrow do? Good advice Huntbear I'll keep that in mind. I have a brand new 300 win mag do I need to break the barrel in first or can I just have the break installed before I shoot it. Or, now that I think about it maybe I should shoot it before I spend the money on a break! My buddy said I'm gonna want a break so maybe I'm questioning if he knows what he's talking about.
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Post by: Huntbear on May 20, 2009, 06:26:15 PM: Thatt all depends on how good of a recoil pad is on it, and how well you handle recoil. I shoot a Sako .338 WM with the factory pad (which is very thin) with no problems. That kind of thing is something only you can figure out. However, that said, brakes are wonderful things. Turns a monster into something manageable, and something manageable into a *censored*cat.
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Post by: JBar on May 20, 2009, 06:38:20 PM: Sorry for all the questions Huntbear but I'm an archery hunter 99.5% of the time so I'm not up on all the good gun stuff. It has the remington version of a Simms recoil pad so I figured it would be managable. I've shot my Ruger 7 mag no problem with it's stock butt pad not sure how much more ummph is in the .300. Should I break in the barrel first?
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Post by: Huntbear on May 20, 2009, 07:50:12 PM: I would get a better recoil pad on it, in the limb saver/ decelerator type it is well worth the small amount of money to get that installed, or you can do it yourself if you have any savvy at all in measuring and using a disk or belt sander.

Breaking in the barrel can be done before or after a muzzle brake if you go that way. There are many proven ways to break in a barrel, however, the one taught to us in gunsmithing school, was shoot 5 rounds, then thoroughly scrub the bore with a new brush and and clean it good. Then shoot 5 more and do the same until you reach somewhere between 30 and 50 rounds. Now some people will say you do not need to do anything, others say you have to used some sort of lapping compound, it is all in personal preference. That said, I have done it the way I described many many times on new barrels, and they all shoot really well. :twocents: I also know ammo is scarce right now, so you may not be able to shoot that much until later.

The .300 WM has no more kick to it than a 7 mag, unless it does not fit you correctly, then any gun will kick the snot out of you. It is basically the same case, just throwing a different diameter bullet. I would shoot it, if it bothers you, have a better recoil pad put on it. If it still bothers you, then get a muzzle brake put on it.

I hope this helps.
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Post by: Kent Hunter on May 22, 2009, 12:00:33 AM: Go with Pallazo. You won't go wrong!!
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Post by: runningboard on May 22, 2009, 01:45:36 AM: the simms from remington is a limbsaver. I used to shoot a 300 Roy with the factory pad and shot it over 1200 times in the course of load development, all this while weighing in @ a buck-fifty. I say shoot it first, like has been said if you handled the 7 mag. you should handle the 300 win if it fits you
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Post by: Skyvalhunter on May 22, 2009, 05:33:40 AM: Can you say wore out barrel?
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Post by: jackelope on May 22, 2009, 06:14:46 AM: 1200 rounds better not be wearing out a barrel.
2500 maybe but not 1200.
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Post by: BLKBEARKLR on May 22, 2009, 07:23:07 AM: Jbar, I think you should just shoot that gun a couple times for yourself. You will probably figure out you do not need a break on it. My wife at 142 pounds shoots a 300 win mag, she does have a break on it but most of the time it is turned off.

A good recoil pad does wonders, Sims makes an awesome one.
Title: Re: Muzzle Break
Post by: JBar on May 22, 2009, 07:27:58 AM: Quote from: BLKBEARKLR on May 22, 2009, 07:23:07 AM
Jbar, I think you should just shoot that gun a couple times for yourself. You will probably figure out you do not need a break on it. My wife at 142 pounds shoots a 300 win mag, she does have a break on it but most of the time it is turned off.

A good recoil pad does wonders, Sims makes an awesome one.

Thanks, BBKLR I think I'm going to do just that! I am waiting for my scope and mounts to arrive so I can finish getting it set up. Plus I can't be shown up by a girl!! :chuckle:
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Post by: BLKBEARKLR on May 22, 2009, 07:35:18 AM: Jbar in no way am I telling you how to shoot or anything in that fashion I am just explaining what I did with my wife and a heck of a lot of soldiers in my lifetime. Go to the range without the scope. Shoot a box or so get comfortable with the gun first, then mount the scope.

In my opinion you go with that scope on you are more likely to make a lot more issues for yourself. I let the wife shoot 150 rounds ( I reload) out of her rifle before we put the scope on for her. She just got comfortable with the recoil of it before and in 5 rounds after scope was on we were walking away from the range zeroed and ready to hunt.
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Post by: JBar on May 22, 2009, 07:38:37 AM: I'll give that a try BBK, I've been dying to shoot it anyway! Thanks again to all!