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Title: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: Terminalist on October 25, 2022, 09:46:09 PM
I drew the North Central Washington raffle tag (which is good for any 200GMU mule deer hunt from September 1 through December 31). I am a working man and didn't stack the box like we know some guys do, which also means I can't hunt as long as I would like to not being retired.

Desert 290 rut sounds incredible, but the uniqueness and possible upside of gambling on weather and a migration hunt in Entiat 247, Swakane 250, Mission 251 etc. sounds like once in a lifetime.  I am not asking for a spot, I am trying to understand the migration since no one ever gets these dates to hunt and it is impossible to get information on them.   

How often is there enough snow to push the deer out of the Cascades before December 31?  I'm hoping to better my best buck which currently is a heavy mid 190's buck.
     
-PM's are also welcome   





Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: lewy on October 25, 2022, 10:19:15 PM
Congrats on a sweet tag, enjoy every minute of it!
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: jrebel on October 25, 2022, 10:33:52 PM
Let’s see a pic of the hog you speak of.  A 200 inch deer is doable but I wouldn’t get your hopes up.  The areas you speak of just aren’t what they used to be.   I would personally hunt the rut regardless of the snow….the big bucks will be easier to find as they will be chasing does.  Just my two cents.   Good luck and make sure to post success photos.
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: highside74 on October 25, 2022, 10:45:56 PM
Hunt 290 until you kill a masher or the weather shows up in Entiat. Then spend some time in the Entiat. Good luck
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: Mfowl on October 25, 2022, 11:05:03 PM
Congrats on your draw! Please let us know what you turn up.

As stated, I would try 290 in Nov and 247 or others in Dec.
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: boneaddict on October 26, 2022, 05:29:00 AM
Oh those Russian olives…..
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: blindluck on October 26, 2022, 05:46:08 AM
Just saw a monster in the desert unit.
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: MtnMuley on October 26, 2022, 05:49:07 AM
I am a working man and didn't stack the box like we know some guys do, which also means I can't hunt as long as I would like to not being retired.


I know of several guys who you're referring to that invest more than most in the raffles and they all work well in excess to your normal 40 hour work week. To them having the chance at a 4 month season means more of a chance to sneak away from work or work from the road and have a better chance at a quality hunt with their busy schedules. Shame on them for building successful businesses allowing more raffle tickets to be bought. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: C-Money on October 26, 2022, 06:17:52 AM
Oh goodness! You have a dream tag!! I must agree, If you can focus on November with your time, you'll have the time of your life!! Looking around the desert is a must, but once they get moving in the mountains, I think I'd spend time there. Good luck!! Enjoy!
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: Ridgerunner on October 26, 2022, 07:03:39 AM
Dream tag, definitively hunt the rut but I believe that most of the bigger bucks don't show up on the traditional winter ranges till December and that they are rutting in country that is very difficult to get into.
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: Sneaky Squirrel on October 26, 2022, 07:54:12 AM

I know of several guys who you're referring to that invest more than most in the raffles and they all work well in excess to your normal 40 hour work week. To them having the chance at a 4 month season means more of a chance to sneak away from work or work from the road and have a better chance at a quality hunt with their busy schedules. Shame on them for building successful businesses allowing more raffle tickets to be bought. :rolleyes:
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Wow, sounds like you have sour grapes.... He must of pulled the tag you were trying for.  :chuckle:  Regardless if you buy one raffle ticket or a thousand, it is kind of neat for the underdog to win. Sure didn't take the comments the same way your did....

Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: Tbar on October 26, 2022, 08:06:54 AM

I know of several guys who you're referring to that invest more than most in the raffles and they all work well in excess to your normal 40 hour work week. To them having the chance at a 4 month season means more of a chance to sneak away from work or work from the road and have a better chance at a quality hunt with their busy schedules. Shame on them for building successful businesses allowing more raffle tickets to be bought. :rolleyes:

Wow, sounds like you have sour grapes.... He must of pulled the tag you were trying for.  :chuckle:  Regardless if you buy one raffle ticket or a thousand, it is kind of neat for the underdog to win. Sure didn't take the comments the same way your did....
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It is very obvious that the op does not know the guys who "stack the box", otherwise he would have chosen different language. As stated by mtmuley, most of the Washington guys would fall into the workaholic category. Also not a time to further divide.  I have many thoughts on raffles that I will save for a different point in time,  we really need all demographics that support hunting and conservation on board right now.  Best of luck to the op. :twocents:
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: Sneaky Squirrel on October 26, 2022, 09:06:24 AM

I know of several guys who you're referring to that invest more than most in the raffles and they all work well in excess to your normal 40 hour work week. To them having the chance at a 4 month season means more of a chance to sneak away from work or work from the road and have a better chance at a quality hunt with their busy schedules. Shame on them for building successful businesses allowing more raffle tickets to be bought. :rolleyes:

Wow, sounds like you have sour grapes.... He must of pulled the tag you were trying for.  :chuckle:  Regardless if you buy one raffle ticket or a thousand, it is kind of neat for the underdog to win. Sure didn't take the comments the same way your did....

It is very obvious that the op does not know the guys who "stack the box", otherwise he would have chosen different language. As stated by mtmuley, most of the Washington guys would fall into the workaholic category. Also not a time to further divide.  I have many thoughts on raffles that I will save for a different point in time,  we really need all demographics that support hunting and conservation on board right now.  Best of luck to the op. :twocents:
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Not trying to get anyone upset. I myself have no clue who stack the box and frankly i could care less. So my language would have been similar. I just took it that he hit the raffle jackpot and his time & money was limited. My understanding is that Raffles are normally guys with a lot of $ buying there tags, it is good to know that isn't always the case here in Washington.  :tup:



Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: Tbar on October 26, 2022, 09:11:51 AM

I know of several guys who you're referring to that invest more than most in the raffles and they all work well in excess to your normal 40 hour work week. To them having the chance at a 4 month season means more of a chance to sneak away from work or work from the road and have a better chance at a quality hunt with their busy schedules. Shame on them for building successful businesses allowing more raffle tickets to be bought. :rolleyes:

Wow, sounds like you have sour grapes.... He must of pulled the tag you were trying for.  :chuckle:  Regardless if you buy one raffle ticket or a thousand, it is kind of neat for the underdog to win. Sure didn't take the comments the same way your did....

It is very obvious that the op does not know the guys who "stack the box", otherwise he would have chosen different language. As stated by mtmuley, most of the Washington guys would fall into the workaholic category. Also not a time to further divide.  I have many thoughts on raffles that I will save for a different point in time,  we really need all demographics that support hunting and conservation on board right now.  Best of luck to the op. :twocents:

Not trying to get anyone upset. I myself have no clue who stack the box and frankly i could care less. So my language would have been similar. I just took it that he hit the raffle jackpot and his time & money was limited. My understanding is that Raffles are normally guys with a lot of $ buying there tags, it is good to know that isn't always the case here in Washington.  :tup:
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You are not far off. It's an investment,  an investment with little security. Regardless of who wins the raffle is usually a good to great bet and generally not sour grapes to the small number ticket guy winning.   :twocents:
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: jrebel on October 26, 2022, 10:19:49 AM
Well, there is one way to guarantee they OP will not share his story.....and a couple of you have nailed it!!!  Strong work criticizing a guy that has literally just won the hunting lottery.  You guys really know how to take a big steaming crap on fellow hunters.   :bash: :bash: :bash: 

Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: hunterednate on October 26, 2022, 10:34:43 AM
Yeehaw!! Wow, congrats on a fantastic tag. I'd spend the first two weeks of November in 290, absolutely. You may be familiar with the unit, but PM me if you need a start on places to check out. Pumped for you.
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: MtnMuley on October 26, 2022, 10:54:59 AM
Well, there is one way to guarantee they OP will not share his story.....and a couple of you have nailed it!!!  Strong work criticizing a guy that has literally just won the hunting lottery.  You guys really know how to take a big steaming crap on fellow hunters.   :bash: :bash: :bash:

If my comment is what you're referring to as criticism, then I don't know what to say. I just made a statement that some of the guys who "stack the box" are some of the hardest working guys out there and a first time poster should realize that. I love to see the underdog win these raffles as does 99% of us hunters......and no, I didn't stack the raffle although if I had the finances I'd love to.
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: stickbuck on October 26, 2022, 11:01:10 AM
Congrats on drawing such an awesome raffle tag. What are your plans for filling the other two species options for that north central raffle? Sounds like an amazing fall hunting season.


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Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: Bob33 on October 26, 2022, 11:07:53 AM
That is an awesome opportunity. Best wishes and enjoy the journey!
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: Sneaky Squirrel on October 26, 2022, 11:08:31 AM
Well, there is one way to guarantee they OP will not share his story.....and a couple of you have nailed it!!!  Strong work criticizing a guy that has literally just won the hunting lottery.  You guys really know how to take a big steaming crap on fellow hunters.   :bash: :bash: :bash:

If my comment is what you're referring to as criticism, then I don't know what to say. I just made a statement that some of the guys who "stack the box" are some of the hardest working guys out there and a first time poster should realize that. I love to see the underdog win these raffles as does 99% of us hunters......and no, I didn't stack the raffle although if I had the finances I'd love to.

Not trying to jump in on your guys conversation, but i do disagree with you on the part a first time poster should realize this. I'm somewhat new here, been a long time lurker and have hunted WA for 30 years and wasn't fully aware of how the raffles worked out. I do now thou and it is was welcoming news.

I have no issue about you posting what you did. Some people may view it as hurting feelings and scary people off, people shouldn't be so sensitive.... If you didn't post what you did, i would of had no clue who was stacking the box :tup: Hopefully the OP feels the same way....
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: Big6bull on October 26, 2022, 01:34:23 PM
Good luck on your hunt, good things will happen in many units in November!
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: huntnfmly on October 26, 2022, 02:15:44 PM
Well, there is one way to guarantee they OP will not share his story.....and a couple of you have nailed it!!!  Strong work criticizing a guy that has literally just won the hunting lottery.  You guys really know how to take a big steaming crap on fellow hunters.   :bash: :bash: :bash: 



 :yeah:

Congrats on a great tag enjoy every minute
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: westside bull on October 26, 2022, 08:12:13 PM
Congratulations to the RAFFLE WINNER. Don't listen to some people on this site go kill a great buck!
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: meatwhack on October 27, 2022, 05:29:42 AM
Congratulations on the tag. I’d hunt every bit of spare time you have from now to the end of the year. I think it’d be worth it to hunt all the areas, you never know where a big buck might show up. Plus when you get burnt out on one area or type of hunting you can move to another.
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on October 27, 2022, 05:34:47 AM
Congratulations on winning the draw, don’t let the occasional jack wagon on here keep you from posting the mods do a pretty good job beating them down.🤣

Can’t wait to see pics, and read the story of a lifetime hunt.👍
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: fishngamereaper on October 27, 2022, 05:52:30 AM
Personally I would quit my job.... :twocents:


But I'm retired so talk is cheap...

Cool tag.
You actually have the perfect scenario shaping up for migration bucks. Heavy mnt snow forecast for the next couple weeks.
Spend a couple days in 290 but I would definitely want to be in the foothills looking over migration bucks by the 15th- 20th..imo
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: bobcat on October 27, 2022, 06:47:38 AM
Personally I would quit my job.... :twocents:


But I'm retired so talk is cheap...


 :chuckle:
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: lemondog on October 27, 2022, 08:07:40 AM
No issue with the "hard working' average guy spending extra hard working $ on raffle tickets. However, I know of several persons spending $6,000-$20,000 on raffle tickets. That's a problem for the average hunter and a problem with the system IMO....Congrats and kill a masher! I have some ideas if you are interested.
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: Rainier10 on October 27, 2022, 09:14:58 AM
Congrats on a great tag. Like others have said I would hunt the desert for a bit and the switch to the entiat after the 15th of November if you aren’t finding what you want in the desert.

Good luck and I hope you do come back with an update and story
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: bustedoldman on October 27, 2022, 01:37:45 PM
Great tag and congrats! Hope you kill a giant.....But I would have been in the desert from opening day every chance I got until the snow really starts coming down in the hills......
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: NOCK NOCK on October 27, 2022, 06:32:53 PM
Great tag and congrats! Hope you kill a giant.....But I would have been in the desert from opening day every chance I got until the snow really starts coming down in the hills......


THIS   :yeah:   There are definitely some huge bucks in the desert. Overall odds better there than in the Entiat.......until December, then its a tossup.
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: teanawayslayer on October 27, 2022, 08:31:50 PM
Entiat is not even close to what it once was. Even the later half of December it isn’t that great. You’ll see a ton of bucks lots in the 120-170 range. The mashers aren’t behind every tree. Set a goal of what you want and stick to it. Even if that means eating the tag. Boots on the ground in the desert would be my first choice of where to hunt.
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on October 27, 2022, 08:45:02 PM
With all that’s been said you’ll most likely never get the tag again, take the buck that suits you and don’t look back.😉

Unfortunately our mule deer herds in Washington are declining at a rapid pace not ever to recover IMHO.
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: boneaddict on October 28, 2022, 01:24:38 PM
You may have wanted to be out there today.  The rut fired full bore. 
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: Terminalist on November 07, 2022, 03:40:32 PM
I appreciate all the positive feedback.  Life conflicts have me looking at December now and focusing on the migration.  It is encouraging to see the snow hitting, but hard to sit on the bench and wait!   
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: meatwhack on December 13, 2022, 05:46:25 AM
How is this hunt going?
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: Threewolves on December 13, 2022, 07:35:05 AM
how did you do with the other species under the North Central raffle tag?
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: hunter399 on December 13, 2022, 08:50:11 AM
It suck when topic like this,when we never see the finish line.
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: kirkl on December 13, 2022, 09:16:50 AM
It suck when topic like this,when we never see the finish line.

Well he does have till the 31st so maybe hes still hunting and hasnt crossed the finish line.
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: huntnphool on December 13, 2022, 09:08:05 PM
 Good luck
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: bigboy on December 28, 2022, 08:44:51 PM
Any updates?
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: jackelope on December 28, 2022, 09:36:30 PM
@Terminalist
Update?
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: jrebel on December 28, 2022, 09:37:57 PM
Wondering if this was the buck shot in the entiat during the late archery season.  If so the hunter should be proud that they shot it while a bow hunter was stalking in and about 10-20 yards from a shot.   Would have been a decent first buck for the new archery hunter….but not even close to 190.  Like 4 years of good horn grown from 190. 
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: huntnphool on December 29, 2022, 02:04:17 PM
@Terminalist
Update?

 +1
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: ThurstonCokid on December 29, 2022, 02:39:34 PM
Tag…. Updates


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Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: Mfowl on December 29, 2022, 02:58:12 PM
PM sent
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: Rainier10 on December 29, 2022, 03:41:41 PM
PM sent
sent to who? :dunno:
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: time2hunt on December 31, 2022, 07:27:29 AM
ghosted


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Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: boneaddict on December 31, 2022, 07:31:23 AM
He still has this evening after work to get it done.
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: Buckjunkie on December 31, 2022, 10:27:58 AM
I’m just catching up here, but why no talk about the other two tags that come with the North Central raffle? He could shoot 3 of 5 from a list of Sheep, Mule Deer, Whitetail, Cougar and Bear.
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: teanawayslayer on December 31, 2022, 11:12:45 AM
I’m just catching up here, but why no talk about the other two tags that come with the North Central raffle? He could shoot 3 of 5 from a list of Sheep, Mule Deer, Whitetail, Cougar and Bear.
I think Time2hunt nailed it on the head. Ghosted!
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: NRA4LIFE on December 31, 2022, 11:26:38 AM
Did anyone else find it odd that his 2 posts spoke only of mule deer?  If I drew that tag, a mule deer would not be my main focus.
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: meatwhack on December 31, 2022, 03:40:04 PM
The OP has been on here within the last day so hope he’ll decide to update the thread.
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: Terminalist on January 02, 2023, 01:47:37 PM
Never even chambered a round.  No shortage of fresh mountain lion sign.  Especially disappointing given the favorable weather.   
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: hunterednate on January 02, 2023, 01:57:43 PM
Never even chambered a round.  No shortage of fresh mountain lion sign.  Especially disappointing given the favorable weather.

Man, what a bummer. Thank you for the update.
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: jackelope on January 02, 2023, 02:01:49 PM
Never even chambered a round.  No shortage of fresh mountain lion sign.  Especially disappointing given the favorable weather.

For any of the 3 animals or for a mule deer?
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: huntnphool on January 02, 2023, 02:06:34 PM
Never even chambered a round.  No shortage of fresh mountain lion sign.  Especially disappointing given the favorable weather.

 Well hopefully you had a great time on your hunts at least.
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: stickbuck on January 02, 2023, 02:20:44 PM
Never even chambered a round.  No shortage of fresh mountain lion sign.  Especially disappointing given the favorable weather.
Would love to hear how the sheep portion of your raffle experience went. Hard to fathom not chambering a round on a sheep.


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Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: kirkl on January 05, 2023, 08:49:26 PM
That’s all you’re gonna say? Didn’t chamber a round? No stories on any of the 3
Animals you were able to hunt?
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: grade-creek-rd on January 05, 2023, 09:14:32 PM
Well...it is titled: "Working man raffle tag winner"...so, maybe he was working the whole time? or maybe he couldn't afford all the hunts, and as much as we all want a sheep tag, what if you couldn't afford to have a mount done so it would only add to the angst of what to do if you killed one...as much as we all want to know more, obviously the poster doesn't want to share and that is his right.

On to bigger and better things! Anyone else excited for 2023 yet? I already got hunts planned for WA & ID, and putting in for MT...

Grade
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: Romulus1297 on January 05, 2023, 09:59:57 PM
Who would not want to hunt 1 of these if you had a tag?
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: huntnphool on January 05, 2023, 11:48:37 PM
Who would not want to hunt 1 of these if you had a tag?

 David tagged a nice ram that year. :tup:
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 06, 2023, 12:26:56 AM
 :yeah: Stud ram and a great guy  :tup:
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: MtnMuley on January 06, 2023, 04:10:01 AM
maybe he couldn't afford all the hunts, and as much as we all want a sheep tag, what if you couldn't afford to have a mount done so it would only add to the angst of what to do if you killed one...as much as we all want to know more, obviously the poster doesn't want to share and that is his right.

I personally don't care if he shares his hunt or not, but he did start this topic and spent the money on at least one ticket to hunt these animals. If one worked the entire 3.5 and 4 months of these seasons then why would they even buy a ticket? He saw no shortage of  mtn lion sign, so that tells me he obviously had some time to hunt. Also let's say he didn't have the funds to mount a sheep. What's wrong with an awesome self done euro mount for free and a bunch of the best meat on the planet in your freezer?
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: trophyhunt on January 06, 2023, 06:42:29 AM
Ghosted again.  If he didn't hunt the other species, I'd say that was the most wasted draw ever..... and worst thread of 2022.
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: MtnMuley on January 06, 2023, 10:38:39 PM
I'm going to guess he filled the sheep tag. That could have been done in a matter of an hour or less with the dates of that tag. :twocents:
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: jackelope on January 07, 2023, 11:16:37 AM
I’ve heard the sheep tag was filled. I don’t have any details but I’ve heard he killed a ram.
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: trophyhunt on January 07, 2023, 01:16:55 PM
Well good to hear that, after starting his thread, a story would be nice. But, to each their own.
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 07, 2023, 01:42:54 PM
Very cool. I hope he posts it up.  :tup:
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: scoutdog346 on January 29, 2023, 10:18:00 AM
If the snow isn't good for Entiat then stay in the desert but once the weather report looks like Entiat is going to be good then go to Entiat.  Go to Entiat a day or 2 b4 Entiat starts to look good. If ur hunting with a MF amd have 4 or 5 good sitting spots to hunt and u can hit a paper plate 8 out of 10 times at 600 yards and have decent glass then u have the luxury of waiting for the 200" but if that's not u take the 1st one over 150"  a 150" is a very nice buck for wa state
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: time2hunt on January 29, 2023, 11:58:37 AM
I think your a little late on your post season ended December 31st


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Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: trophyhunt on January 29, 2023, 12:02:16 PM
 :chuckle:
Title: Re: Working man raffle tag winner
Post by: dilleytech on February 04, 2023, 02:57:06 PM
Well...it is titled: "Working man raffle tag winner"...so, maybe he was working the whole time? or maybe he couldn't afford all the hunts, and as much as we all want a sheep tag, what if you couldn't afford to have a mount done so it would only add to the angst of what to do if you killed one...as much as we all want to know more, obviously the poster doesn't want to share and that is his right.

On to bigger and better things! Anyone else excited for 2023 yet? I already got hunts planned for WA & ID, and putting in for MT...

Grade

European mounts are pretty cheap one might argue free.
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