Post by: cooltimber on October 26, 2022, 04:27:28 PM
Post by: Roost Run on October 26, 2022, 05:53:35 PM
Post by: CarbonHunter on October 26, 2022, 06:56:25 PM
Post by: JWBINX on October 26, 2022, 07:04:44 PM
There was only 4" on top of Chinook on Tuesday, with a spin out in the afternoon coming down the westside.
From someone in a Prius or Tesla. (You know where they were from).
I think the Park service and the D.O.T suck big time. (sorry for the outburst)
Post by: millerwheeler on October 26, 2022, 07:12:42 PM
Post by: CarbonHunter on October 26, 2022, 07:16:39 PM
Post by: JWBINX on October 26, 2022, 08:41:47 PM
I mean as a kid growing up always recall them closing week before elk or week after depended on weather and always been told that psd has a very limited plow budget we have been lucky lately few years
If you go on Washdot website, then scoll down to site index, click on that, then go down to mountain pass closures, they have open and
close dates back to 1935. It has closed only 5 times since 1948 before November 6th. The last 16 years after Nov 7th or later.
It is all about Mount Rainier park wanting to close it!! D.O.T does not care-- They still get paid. Total BS.
Last year Sept 26th I went in White river gate to a spot to watch big bulls early am. Awesome! I went back on Sept 28th late in the day to hang with them till dark. When I got to the gate, the Park employee informed me the road was closed. (Bear in mind it was decent weather) When I
ask why? She said -- it might snow. I said who made that F*&king decision? She slide the window shut. Talk about pissed.
Granted there was a forecast for snow the next day. To many *censored*s from Seattle poking around to be safe??
Post by: Dale Gribble on October 26, 2022, 08:58:57 PM
Total Bull S#!T.
There was only 4" on top of Chinook on Tuesday, with a spin out in the afternoon coming down the westside.
From someone in a Prius or Tesla. (You know where they were from).
I think the Park service and the D.O.T suck big time. Lazy asses! (sorry for the outburst)
That’s a pretty bold statement to call the plow drivers lazy asses. Especially considering how short staffed they were last year and again this year (yeah I know a few drivers and they work hard as hell to keep the roads open). Maybe point the finger at those in charge not the workers out there risking life and limb on the roadway of getting hit by distracted or other types of drivers. If jay wouldn’t have fired nearly half the staff of DOT on 18 Oct 2021 maybe this crap wouldn’t be happening now. But what do I know.
Post by: hughjorgan on October 26, 2022, 09:11:11 PM
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on October 26, 2022, 09:13:52 PM
Putting sand on chinook and Cayuse isn’t going to keep those passes open. It gets icy up there really quick plus they’re no commerce allowed to go over those passes. No real good reason to keep those roads open when there are better safer routes to take.
:yeah:
Post by: JWBINX on October 26, 2022, 09:29:12 PM
Total Bull S#!T.
There was only 4" on top of Chinook on Tuesday, with a spin out in the afternoon coming down the westside.
From someone in a Prius or Tesla. (You know where they were from).
I think the Park service and the D.O.T suck big time. Lazy asses! (sorry for the outburst)
That’s a pretty bold statement to call the plow drivers lazy asses. Especially considering how short staffed they were last year and again this year (yeah I know a few drivers and they work hard as hell to keep the roads open). Maybe point the finger at those in charge not the workers out there risking life and limb on the roadway of getting hit by distracted or other types of drivers. If jay wouldn’t have fired nearly half the staff of DOT on 18 Oct 2021 maybe this crap wouldn’t be happening now. But what do I know.
You are correct! I retract that statement. It is not the snow plow drivers decision. It does come from much higher up. The MRNP plays a big part of it.
Post by: Mudman on October 26, 2022, 09:48:32 PM
Post by: Dale Gribble on October 26, 2022, 09:49:40 PM
Total Bull S#!T.
There was only 4" on top of Chinook on Tuesday, with a spin out in the afternoon coming down the westside.
From someone in a Prius or Tesla. (You know where they were from).
I think the Park service and the D.O.T suck big time. Lazy asses! (sorry for the outburst)
That’s a pretty bold statement to call the plow drivers lazy asses. Especially considering how short staffed they were last year and again :tup: this year (yeah I know a few drivers and they work hard as hell to keep the roads open). Maybe point the finger at those in charge not the workers out there risking :tup: life and limb on the roadway of getting hit by distracted or other types of drivers. If jay wouldn’t have fired nearly half the staff of DOT on 18 Oct 2021 maybe this crap wouldn’t be happening now. But what do I know.
You are correct! I retract that statement. It is not the snow plow drivers decision. It does come from much higher up. The MRNP plays a big part of it.
:tup: Didn’t mean to be so fiery but I work along side those guys during the winter and it’s S-hitty on the east side most of the winter. My crew and I have had to many close calls so it hit home. Have a good hunting season :tup:
Post by: trophyhunt on October 27, 2022, 06:24:26 AM
Post by: bobcat on October 27, 2022, 06:33:46 AM
Post by: BLDtraLR on October 27, 2022, 06:41:17 AM
THANK YOU :tup: WOW REALLY I would call this something besides a bold statement :bash: :bash: Maybe you'd like to come drive a plow truck oh wait probably haven't a clue on how to. So just some facts for you to grasp if you can. 128 state employees fired because of dimslees mandate so dont call us lazy this is going to be the case on ALL PASSES.Total Bull S#!T.
There was only 4" on top of Chinook on Tuesday, with a spin out in the afternoon coming down the westside.
From someone in a Prius or Tesla. (You know where they were from).
I think the Park service and the D.O.T suck big time. Lazy asses! (sorry for the outburst)
That’s a pretty bold statement to call the plow drivers lazy asses. Especially considering how short staffed they were last year and again this year (yeah I know a few drivers and they work hard as hell to keep the roads open). Maybe point the finger at those in charge not the workers out there risking life and limb on the roadway of getting hit by distracted or other types of drivers. If jay wouldn’t have fired nearly half the staff of DOT on 18 Oct 2021 maybe this crap wouldn’t be happening now. But what do I know.
Post by: kball4 on October 27, 2022, 07:08:00 AM
With the cost of fuel right now I guess the state will save a lot of money not having to sand and plow those roads. So it seems like a good decision to me.
6 billion dollar surplus could buy a lot of sand and diesel.
Post by: Moose Master on October 27, 2022, 07:09:27 AM
The plowing crews have their hands full give them plenty of much deserved Praise.
Post by: bobcat on October 27, 2022, 08:11:01 AM
With the cost of fuel right now I guess the state will save a lot of money not having to sand and plow those roads. So it seems like a good decision to me.
6 billion dollar surplus could buy a lot of sand and diesel.
Who has a 6 billion dollar surplus?
Post by: BLDtraLR on October 27, 2022, 08:15:43 AM
Driving a snowplow is not a piece of cake. Try it in a city that has steep hills and cars parked on both sides of the road, now add a curve in it and on the way down there's a full size crew cab with a 8 ft box sideways in the road. Been there done that. Or your pushing 8 to 12 inches of HEAVY wet snow downhill with a beautiful curl looking like a perfect wave and looking ahead there is a rag top jeep with curtains. Mind you the curl is taller than the jeepWell said :tup: :tup:
The plowing crews have their hands full give them plenty of much deserved Praise.
Post by: Sandberm on October 27, 2022, 08:46:11 AM
This article said we had a 15 billion dollar surplus but democrats spent it all. :dunno:With the cost of fuel right now I guess the state will save a lot of money not having to sand and plow those roads. So it seems like a good decision to me.
6 billion dollar surplus could buy a lot of sand and diesel.
Who has a 6 billion dollar surplus?
https://www.bigcountrynewsconnection.com/local/2022-washington-legislature-adjourns-after-spending-entire-15-billion-budget-surplus/article_3b009d34-a14a-11ec-91bb-23b2adaca596.html (https://www.bigcountrynewsconnection.com/local/2022-washington-legislature-adjourns-after-spending-entire-15-billion-budget-surplus/article_3b009d34-a14a-11ec-91bb-23b2adaca596.html)
"OLYMPIA - The Washington State Legislature ended its 60-day session on time late Thursday night after passing a 65-billion-dollar state budget and a partisan transportation package that raises fees on Washingtonians.
House Republican Leader J.T. Wilcox says this year's session will be remembered for lawmakers attempting to fix problems created in the past. "Fixing those mistakes from the past in public safety and in the long-term health care tax was critical. And if we would not have done that this year, that would have been bad for the citizens," said Wilcox. "We had a 15-billion-dollar surplus that could have gone back to the taxpayers, but instead of doing that, Democrats took by far the largest surplus in the history of Washington and spent it all," added Wilcox.
House Republican proposals included tax relief, safer communities, transportation congestion relief, and an environmental plan, but Democrats rejected those proposals. "Those are going to be the foundation of a program that we will propose for 2023," said Wilcox.
Post by: bobcat on October 27, 2022, 09:14:26 AM
Post by: Sandberm on October 27, 2022, 09:25:14 AM
Yeah, well if this state had so much extra money then would the gas tax really need to increase by 50 cents a gallon on January 1st? :bash:
Can't wait for that! :bash: I guess the msm is waiting till after the elections to start reporting on that?
Main stream media not reporting staffing shortages at DOT either?
Mom went to do her blood lab at the hospital the other day....closed for the day because of staffing shortage...after she drove half an hour and push her walker 50 yards through the parking lot. She called the next day to make sure folks showed up for work before doing the drive again.
Post by: rtspring on October 27, 2022, 09:59:47 AM
Post by: millerwheeler on October 27, 2022, 12:26:51 PM
You WETSIDERS should of moved east long ago!!!! Now deal with it!!! :chuckle:
You can’t lump everyone into one pool there are people all over the state Who aren’t happy about the things going on takes everyone to change it
Post by: kball4 on October 27, 2022, 12:32:15 PM
Post by: Stein on October 27, 2022, 12:37:49 PM
Yeah, well if this state had so much extra money then would the gas tax really need to increase by 50 cents a gallon on January 1st? :bash:
I hope the pitchforks come out.
Post by: ballpark on October 27, 2022, 01:55:00 PM
With the cost of fuel right now I guess the state will save a lot of money not having to sand and plow those roads. So it seems like a good decision to me.
6 billion dollar surplus could buy a lot of sand and diesel.
Who has a 6 billion dollar surplus?
State of Washington but it appears they spent it
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjBirWjpYH7AhWnATQIHWxpBRcQFnoECCgQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fopportunitywa.org%2Fwa-research-council-state-revenues-now-10-b-higher-than-lawmakers-expected-last-year-a-14-billion-budget-
surplus%2F&usg=AOvVaw0GwatIyGUJ6cWCMiAtuWJz
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjBirWjpYH7AhWnATQIHWxpBRcQFnoECC0QAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bigcountrynewsconnection.com%2Flocal%2F2022-washington-legislature-adjourns-after-spending-entire-15-billion-budget-surplus%2Farticle_3b009d34-a14a-11ec-91bb-23b2adaca596.html&usg=AOvVaw121bqGhWvUTR4Iy0WopPpL
Post by: Stein on October 27, 2022, 01:57:39 PM
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on November 03, 2022, 04:41:00 PM
With the cost of fuel right now I guess the state will save a lot of money not having to sand and plow those roads. So it seems like a good decision to me.Seriously??? I doesn't affect me eh? :dunno:
Post by: bobcat on November 03, 2022, 05:44:20 PM
With the cost of fuel right now I guess the state will save a lot of money not having to sand and plow those roads. So it seems like a good decision to me.Seriously??? I doesn't affect me eh? :dunno:
It is what it is. The state can't control the weather.
Post by: Ridgeratt on November 03, 2022, 06:42:49 PM
It would be easy to control and just think of how often they close it for weather 🤔
Post by: bobcat on November 03, 2022, 07:25:29 PM
Post by: Igottanewknee on November 04, 2022, 03:37:35 AM
Chinook pass closes every winter. This year it just happened a couple weeks sooner than it normally does.
Of course... lot more fun to bitch about it though! :chuckle:
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on November 04, 2022, 06:39:04 AM
With the cost of fuel right now I guess the state will save a lot of money not having to sand and plow those roads. So it seems like a good decision to me.Seriously??? I doesn't affect me eh? :dunno:
It is what it is. The state can't control the weather.
It's about the attitude not the weather grasshopper :chuckle:
Post by: Ridgeratt on November 05, 2022, 06:24:33 PM
WSDOT says US 97 Blewett Pass is closed from MP 150 near Lauderdale to MP 178 near Ingallis Creek because of multiple crashes and spun out vehicles from failing to follow chain advisories.
They say there is no estimated time to reopen.
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on November 06, 2022, 06:07:56 AM
Post by: Bullkllr on November 06, 2022, 06:41:10 AM
In all my years of crossing the Cascades, I have found that those that use Chinook,Cayuse, North Cascades. Hell even White and Stevens passes are usually better equipped both physically and mentally :o to handle such a trip. When I 90 closes the idiots show up elsewhere and end up crossing Blewett to get back on their way. Here's your result :chuckle: :yeah:
We drove up to our cabin yesterday over both Sno and Blewett and I can vouch for this. Simply incredibly stupid choices all over the place.
Post by: Ridgeratt on November 06, 2022, 06:47:08 AM