Post by: KFhunter on December 08, 2022, 08:17:57 AM
I been using this lake year around for decades, they never needed any gates before. One NPS guy said it was for lower water levels making the launch pad out of water, and boaters driving off the end of the pad. This is BS, the pads are way under water in many of these launches. Then the guy said it was for "habitat disruption" :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
It's for enforcement and budget plain and simple, pinch everyone into the Kettle Falls marina, easy to check for stickers, easy to check fish, and less driving up and down the lake emptying trash cans, pumping toilets, plowing launches etc.
But why now?
Some good waterfowl spots are a long run between now open marinas!
Post by: GASoline71 on December 08, 2022, 08:26:47 AM
Gary
Post by: 10Key on December 08, 2022, 08:35:28 AM
Post by: Southpole on December 08, 2022, 08:49:24 AM
Post by: KFhunter on December 08, 2022, 09:06:16 AM
I'll find out more here soon
I'd be pissed show up at a launch to waterfowl and its gated when its always been open for decades, no public input or comment periods
Post by: Knocker of rocks on December 08, 2022, 09:31:53 AM
https://www.lrf.org/recreation/boat-launch-lake-levels
Post by: buckfvr on December 08, 2022, 09:35:04 AM
I don't know about all the launches, smaller ones like french rock, china bend, hags etc gated and locked.
I'll find out more here soon
I'd be pissed show up at a launch to waterfowl and its gated when its always been open for decades, no public input or comment periods
Its simple, why should there be public input when you guys arent smart enough to contribute ? Keep your comments to yourself, "we" know whats best for you fools.
Eventually, theres gonna be a fight.
Post by: KFhunter on December 08, 2022, 09:38:34 AM
Is this in real time and does it indicate that water level is uniformly high enough?
https://www.lrf.org/recreation/boat-launch-lake-levels
Yes, the excuse of backing off the pad was just bs
Post by: Knocker of rocks on December 08, 2022, 09:43:05 AM
Is this in real time and does it indicate that water level is uniformly high enough?
https://www.lrf.org/recreation/boat-launch-lake-levels
Yes, the excuse of backing off the pad was just bs
Don’t be too harsh. They may not be in the know and it’s a common human trait to proffer some sort of answer in leu of “duh, I don’t know”.
It will be interesting to find out what is really going on
Post by: rasbo on December 08, 2022, 09:47:48 AM
Post by: Knocker of rocks on December 08, 2022, 09:49:54 AM
https://gcdvisitor.com/boat-launch-accessibility-on-lake-roosevelt/
Post by: KFhunter on December 08, 2022, 09:50:40 AM
Is this in real time and does it indicate that water level is uniformly high enough?
https://www.lrf.org/recreation/boat-launch-lake-levels
Yes, the excuse of backing off the pad was just bs
Don’t be too harsh. They may not be in the know and it’s a common human trait to proffer some sort of answer in leu of “duh, I don’t know”.
It will be interesting to find out what is really going on
Noted, realize he wasn't the one calling the shots
Post by: KFhunter on December 08, 2022, 09:52:17 AM
This site seems to indicate that a few launches are below minimums, and several others are close.
https://gcdvisitor.com/boat-launch-accessibility-on-lake-roosevelt/
Even if the pad is out of the wster or close, you can still launch a kayak, gated means closed
Post by: Knocker of rocks on December 08, 2022, 09:56:36 AM
Post by: Ridgeratt on December 08, 2022, 10:06:22 AM
Post by: KFhunter on December 08, 2022, 11:03:18 AM
I wouldn’t be able to know that. It sounded like the launch was closed as a launch, not as a put in or place to park and walk to the water. Is it actually “no entry “?
That's kinda the point of this thread is to figure out what's going on, and why.
Had a buddy ranting up a storm about all the locked gates. I been at work so haven't tried to waterfowl or fish
Post by: Naches Sportsman on December 08, 2022, 03:09:11 PM
Can’t speak for here but the hiring for federal land management seasonal jobs is piss poor due to people making more money working elsewhere. The starting wage for a seasonal rec tech to clean toilets and rec sites is barely above the WA minimum wage. Stagnant wages and lack of affordable housing are the primary causes. Easier solution is to lock things up which is sad!
For non fire seasonal jobs, places are lucky to see a dozen names on the hiring cert generated by the h.r departments. It’s a cluster ….
Post by: Knocker of rocks on December 08, 2022, 03:59:26 PM
Post by: KFhunter on December 08, 2022, 04:04:07 PM
Shouldn’t everyone wait on a reason for the closure? A web search shows that a few launches are in fact below pool minimum, and a couple of others are within inches of their pool minimum.
That hasn't prompted them to put in gates and shut them in past years
Post by: Knocker of rocks on December 08, 2022, 04:11:56 PM
Post by: wags on December 08, 2022, 04:14:15 PM
Post by: KFhunter on December 08, 2022, 04:23:47 PM
You mean to tell me none of you guys have every heard of battery powered die grinders?
Well, I'd rather not get hooked up for destruction of govt property
Post by: KFhunter on December 08, 2022, 04:25:44 PM
Is todays closure the issue or is the past on trial?
You like to argue, is it a favorite entertainment outlet of yours?
Post by: pickardjw on December 08, 2022, 04:26:09 PM
You mean to tell me none of you guys have every heard of battery powered die grinders?
Well, I'd rather not get hooked up for destruction of govt property
And you know they'd enforce that. Only the homeless and drug addicts get to commit crimes with no penalty!
Post by: Knocker of rocks on December 08, 2022, 04:40:49 PM
Is todays closure the issue or is the past on trial?
You like to argue, is it a favorite entertainment outlet of yours?
Is this not a discussion forum?
Post by: buckfvr on December 08, 2022, 05:52:59 PM
Post by: highcountry_hunter on December 08, 2022, 08:04:12 PM
You mean to tell me none of you guys have every heard of battery powered die grinders?This was my first thought haha. 4 1/2” cutoff wheel makes quick work. But it still doesn’t answer why they’re closing them in the first place
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Post by: chukarchaser on December 10, 2022, 07:03:16 AM
Post by: Southpole on December 10, 2022, 12:25:55 PM