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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: D-Rock425 on December 22, 2022, 08:58:04 AM

Title: Stuck choke tube.
Post by: D-Rock425 on December 22, 2022, 08:58:04 AM: Any tips or tricks for getting a choke tube out of a shogun?
Title: Re: Stuck choke tube.
Post by: ghosthunter on December 22, 2022, 09:10:10 AM: Quote from: D-Rock425 on December 22, 2022, 08:58:04 AM
Any tips or tricks for getting a choke tube out of a shogun?

I think I would find one of the many break free products and soak it over night.
I worry about this problem often ,so I keep them oiled up.

I guess the second worry would to use something that won’t effect the blueing.

Might try a little light heat after soaking , hair dryer maybe?
Title: Re: Stuck choke tube.
Post by: C-Money on December 22, 2022, 09:10:23 AM: A little heat and a lot of lube!! Let the choked end soak in your favorite thread oil...Im sure you'll get it out!!
Title: Re: Stuck choke tube.
Post by: RobinHoodlum on December 22, 2022, 09:12:21 AM: Uh oh! Many suggestions offered on shotgun world.com. Most revolve around a long soak in penetrating oil/solvent and gentle application of heat. Good luck!
Title: Re: Stuck choke tube.
Post by: hunter399 on December 22, 2022, 09:13:49 AM: Quote from: ghosthunter on December 22, 2022, 09:10:10 AM
Quote from: D-Rock425 on December 22, 2022, 08:58:04 AM
Any tips or tricks for getting a choke tube out of a shogun?

I think I would find one of the many break free products and soak it over night.
I worry about this problem often ,so I keep them oiled up.

I guess the secluded d worry would to use something that won’t effect the blueing.

Might try a little light heat after soaking , hair dryer maybe?
I put grease on mine ,just old grease out the grease gun.
Fill the threads ,screw it in,wipe out any extra.
I also worry,but haven't had a problem yet.
I don't waterfowl though,just turkey and grouse.
Title: Re: Stuck choke tube.
Post by: HikerHunter on December 22, 2022, 09:18:53 AM: I had this happen to me. I let mine soak in a breakaway solvent for a couple days and I was able to slowly get it out. And I mean actually soak in it, not just spray on it. I'm much more religious about cleaning them now. I didn't try heat but that might have helped.
Title: Re: Stuck choke tube.
Post by: timberfaller on December 22, 2022, 09:24:18 AM: Last one I had, done with a heat gun(hair dryer) tight choke tube wrench and steady pressure. Took almost an hour. Once it started to move, worked it back and forth for a while. Oil and grease over time becomes "glue" especially if the tubes haven't been completely removed and cleaned in a while!! Mine was a Browning invector +, used a Beretta wrench(fit tighter) and being of metal construction, was able to put a cheater on the handle.

Hint: once out, quit using oils and grease as tube lube. Use the copper anti seize by permatex. When not shooting, turn choke tube out a few turns. When using shotgun, tubes only need a snug turn in. Clean based on how much shooting you do.
Title: Re: Stuck choke tube.
Post by: wadu1 on December 22, 2022, 09:29:32 AM: I've had it happen a few times usually on trips with a lot of altitude changes. I use Q-Max to free them up, regular or commercial. The company that makes the chokes (Muller Chokes) I use recommends Q-Max.
Title: Re: Stuck choke tube.
Post by: duckmen1 on December 22, 2022, 09:29:52 AM: I just wanted to bring up something from past experience. I ran a 3inch duck load. Remington Hypersonic loads at 1700fps. I never had any issues running loads at 1550 fps for probably 7 years. As soon as I put a box of that through my gun my choke swelled. I was never able to get it out. Gun smith couldn't get it out either. I tried all options. Just a thought. Not sure what you have been shooting through the gun. And something to think about for members in the future. Those super high speed loads. Make sure gun and choke is compatable with such.
Title: Re: Stuck choke tube.
Post by: jasnt on December 22, 2022, 09:31:27 AM: I’ll second the anti-seaze
Good luck
Title: Re: Stuck choke tube.
Post by: Dan-o on December 22, 2022, 10:09:21 AM: Geez.
Mine seized probably 12 years ago.
soaked it in everything I could think of.
Wrenched it night after night while soaking for weeks.

Ga ve up.

anything I shoot with it now gets that choke tube.

you all might have inspired me to try some more.
Title: Re: Stuck choke tube.
Post by: knighttime25 on December 22, 2022, 10:27:47 AM: Quote from: Dan-o on December 22, 2022, 10:09:21 AM
Geez.
Mine seized probably 12 years ago.
soaked it in everything I could think of.
Wrenched it night after night while soaking for weeks.

Ga ve up.

anything I shoot with it now gets that choke tube.

you all might have inspired me to try some more.

:yeah: I did the same with my Browning gold. Soaked it for weeks in Kroil, put heat to it and everything in between. Bought a choke remover tool to try and it was so seized in there I ended up cracking the end of my barrel. The only good that came out of it was better preventative maintenance and an excuse for a new upgraded shotgun :chuckle:
Title: Re: Stuck choke tube.
Post by: CP on December 22, 2022, 10:30:14 AM: As others has pointed out, some type of penetrating oil, and heat. Heat the barrel near the choke threads.

Do not heat the choke. In fact, you could apply ice to the choke tube. You want the barrel side to expand and the choke side to contract.
Title: Re: Stuck choke tube.
Post by: Wanttohuntmore on December 22, 2022, 10:41:41 AM: Freeze the barrel, then heat the outside while trying to turn it (after soaking in breakfree).
Title: Re: Stuck choke tube.
Post by: birddogdad on December 22, 2022, 10:59:58 AM: have not had this happen yet ***

my biggest fear would be the rib. i watch some videos and the gunsmiths discuss the correct clamp jig to hold barrel to not "pinch barrel " or destroy rib.

have seen a couple attempts to free tubes, both resulted in new barrels due to (imo) lack of patience or improper grip/ vise point on barrel. I take mine out and lube regularly but i have often and have always just fingered them back in not over tightening. I have often wondered if a lose tube walking out the barrel could result in bulge problems below the threads of tube and barrel (area of tube below threads) if allowed to unscrew more than just a quarter turn or so.

Good luck
Title: Re: Stuck choke tube.
Post by: hughjorgan on December 22, 2022, 11:18:50 AM: Maybe try spraying the choke tube with a penetrating oil, put your choke tube wrench in attach a pair of vise grips to the wrench and give the vise grip a good couple thumps from a hammer to break it free?
Title: Re: Stuck choke tube.
Post by: thinkingman on December 22, 2022, 11:21:44 AM: Anti-seize, the silver stuff, has worked for me for years.
Agree with Kroil from the breech so it works the threads, then heat gun IN MODERATION.
Title: Re: Stuck choke tube.
Post by: BeerBugler on December 22, 2022, 11:27:57 AM: I’ve had this happen, ended up cutting a beer can in half, filled it half way with kroil, put the gun upside down in the beer can and left it for a few days. Choke came right out. You could probably use a soda can but I don’t recommend it!
Title: Re: Stuck choke tube.
Post by: JBG on December 22, 2022, 12:43:30 PM: So you might have luck getting it out with the penetrating oil. I've never had this work for me on the last two stuck tubes.

I sent it to two local gunsmiths who could not pull it out.

Send it to Briley https://www.briley.com/ and ask for Jake. You can just mail the barrel and in a week or so have it back. They can machine it out which he had to do with both chokes of mine.

It took me two years of trying different stuff before i finally sent it in. With i had done it right out of the gate.
Title: Re: Stuck choke tube.
Post by: metlhead on December 22, 2022, 04:16:02 PM: I soaked a barrel for a day and needed to use a re.oval tool that had a cam lobe on it. Found it at Tacoma Scree.
Title: Re: Stuck choke tube.
Post by: metlhead on December 22, 2022, 06:08:14 PM: Here is a photo of the thing.
Title: Re: Stuck choke tube.
Post by: mountainman on December 22, 2022, 08:57:27 PM: Quote from: Wanttohuntmore on December 22, 2022, 10:41:41 AM
Freeze the barrel, then heat the outside while trying to turn it (after soaking in breakfree).
Second this, but would use Kroil. Seems to penetrate quicker
Title: Re: Stuck choke tube.
Post by: Crown50 on December 23, 2022, 09:05:05 PM: After soaking for a couple of days in kroil, put it in a heated ultrasonic cleaner for a few cycles. If its a early Benelli with plated tubes it will probably need to be machined out
Title: Re: Stuck choke tube.
Post by: C-Money on December 24, 2022, 07:32:29 AM: Were you able to get it out D-Rock?
Title: Re: Stuck choke tube.
Post by: Hilltop123 on December 24, 2022, 07:38:40 AM: Quote from: metlhead on December 22, 2022, 06:08:14 PM
Here is a photo of the thing.
Internal nipple extractor, I like it! Would have never thought of that.
Title: Re: Stuck choke tube.
Post by: snit on February 01, 2023, 09:21:47 PM: Quote from: Hilltop123 on December 24, 2022, 07:38:40 AM
Quote from: metlhead on December 22, 2022, 06:08:14 PM
Here is a photo of the thing.
Internal nipple extractor, I like it! Would have never thought of that.

Smart like tractor! :tup:
Title: Re: Stuck choke tube.
Post by: ClemsonJosh on February 01, 2023, 10:31:51 PM: Recently read somewhere else where an extractor with a 1/2” impact does the trick after a soak in penetrating oil.

That said, I’ve got a browning maxus that is a permanent modified.

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Title: Re: Stuck choke tube.
Post by: h2ofowlr on February 02, 2023, 07:07:33 AM: I have helped a few get stuck chokes out. Use Kroil oil and soak. I think I did it for a week and used an extractor. Make sure barrel is secure, so you don't twit it or twist the rib. If it won't come out, I used a heat gun on the choke and just was careful not to burn the coating.