Post by: BKMFR on February 01, 2023, 05:37:34 PM
Let's hear your thoughts... Thanks!!!
BKMFR
Post by: zwickeyman on February 01, 2023, 05:56:10 PM
Maybe a 257 Weatherby. I'll be using a 6.5 RPM this weekend
Post by: jasnt on February 01, 2023, 06:01:01 PM
If bolt gun I personally would go with a 284 or similar 7mm.
Your standard deer rifle would also be just fine
Post by: redi on February 01, 2023, 06:05:06 PM
Post by: jrebel on February 01, 2023, 09:05:10 PM
I'm also not much of a custom rifle guy at this point. To me the cost doesn't justify the little extra a custom may give a fella. There are a ton of factory rifles that will shoot .5 moa or better with a good handload and bullet.
I would likely go with the 6.5-300, though it is probably a little overkill. It would allow you to stretch your range and still maintain the FPS necessary for the hammer hunter to perform.
The Mark V carbonmark elite would fit the bill nicely.
https://weatherby.com/store/markv-carbonmark-elite/
Looks like the 6.5wby RPM would be a good option as well...though I am not familiar with the cartridge. Looks very similar to the PRC ballistically.
Post by: huntnnw on February 01, 2023, 10:22:57 PM
Post by: huntnphool on February 01, 2023, 10:24:08 PM
any gun you hunt deer or elk with
+1
Post by: huntnphool on February 01, 2023, 10:26:30 PM
Post by: jrebel on February 01, 2023, 10:29:00 PM
any gun you hunt deer or elk with
+1
You guys are no fun…. :chuckle: Joking of course!! Get creative and come up with a great deer rifle to shoot wolves with. If I ever go on a wolf hunt, I’m doing it with the 338 lapua. I want them good and dead and I want to touch them at range if needed. My taxidermist can sew up the hole. 😂
Post by: KFhunter on February 01, 2023, 10:29:32 PM
I want it to be very light (gotta walk a lot!)
I don't want it to freeze my hands immediately (I hate that)
I want it to shoot flat, and buck the wind (cross wind canyons)
I don't want giant blown out holes in the fur
I want a light recoil for better follow up shots (got 2 tags?)
Post by: Jolten on February 01, 2023, 10:31:36 PM
I would think a flat fast shooting round to 500-600 yards would be the cats meow. I'm not an AR fan myself so I would stick with a bolt gun. I would be looking at a 6.5 creedmoor, 6.5 prc, or 6.5-300wby. For a bullet choice...I would want something that would hit hard but not destroy the offside. I am a sucker for the hammer hunters so without doing a ton of research on other bullets, I would go with the 124 grain hammer hunter. This bullet out of the creedmoor is right at 2850fps. I would think you could get 3100+fps out of the 6.5 prc and likely 3500fps out the 6.5-300wby.
I'm also not much of a custom rifle guy at this point. To me the cost doesn't justify the little extra a custom may give a fella. There are a ton of factory rifles that will shoot .5 moa or better with a good handload and bullet.
I would likely go with the 6.5-300, though it is probably a little overkill. It would allow you to stretch your range and still maintain the FPS necessary for the hammer hunter to perform.
The Mark V carbonmark elite would fit the bill nicely.
https://weatherby.com/store/markv-carbonmark-elite/
Looks like the 6.5wby RPM would be a good option as well...though I am not familiar with the cartridge. Looks very similar to the PRC ballistically.
Im get 3478 from my 26 nosler with 127gr barnes LRX. Its flat but not aure what itd do to the hide.
Post by: huntnnw on February 01, 2023, 10:34:54 PM
shot mine twice last year at 470 with 215 Bergers and holes in hide are not bad at allany gun you hunt deer or elk with
+1
You guys are no fun…. :chuckle: Joking of course!! Get creative and come up with a great deer rifle to shoot wolves with. If I ever go on a wolf hunt, I’m doing it with the 338 lapua. I want them good and dead and I want to touch them at range if needed. My taxidermist can sew up the hole. 😂
Post by: buglebrush on February 01, 2023, 10:35:31 PM
I want a rifle that doesn't pack up snow in every little crack, AR and most chassis rifles are out
I want it to be very light (gotta walk a lot!)
I don't want it to freeze my hands immediately (I hate that)
I want it to shoot flat, and buck the wind (cross wind canyons)
I don't want giant blown out holes in the fur
I want a light recoil for better follow up shots (got 2 tags?)
Seekins Element in 6.5 PRC is what I use, it would fit your description.
Post by: KFhunter on February 01, 2023, 10:40:44 PM
Post by: buckfvr on February 02, 2023, 08:46:20 AM
Post by: vandeman17 on February 02, 2023, 08:55:35 AM
Post by: mburrows on February 02, 2023, 09:22:53 AM
I want a rifle that doesn't pack up snow in every little crack, AR and most chassis rifles are out
I want it to be very light (gotta walk a lot!)
I don't want it to freeze my hands immediately (I hate that)
I want it to shoot flat, and buck the wind (cross wind canyons)
I don't want giant blown out holes in the fur
I want a light recoil for better follow up shots (got 2 tags?)
Seekins Element in 6.5 PRC is what I use, it would fit your description.
Playing along…that’s what I’d do!
Post by: High Climber on February 02, 2023, 09:28:31 AM
Post by: buckfvr on February 02, 2023, 09:38:03 AM
Post by: GASoline71 on February 02, 2023, 09:56:13 AM
Gary
Post by: 300rum on February 02, 2023, 10:35:37 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 02, 2023, 10:40:30 AM
If I was building a dedicated wolf gun it would be a 20" 8 twist 6CM on a lone peak fusion action dropped in a manners pro hunter stock with aics 10 round mags. 105 berger hunting vld's. Enough capacity to lay the hate on multiple dogs from end of the barrel or cross canyon. Low recoil for staying on target.
Post by: hunter399 on February 02, 2023, 11:08:45 AM
Just a big dog,not sure I would do a custom build.
But if you got the cash to burn ,why not right.
I'd probably use my 243 with 103 grain eldx.
Took a small bear and cougar last year with it.
Sure it would work on wolf.
Any deer caliber and up would be fine.
How many yards away you want to smoke one is the question,then decide caliber.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on February 02, 2023, 11:33:51 AM
I FULLY support the purchase of irrational guns and ammunition :chuckle::yeah: But make it 26 inches, suppressed, and AW mags because more better.
If I was building a dedicated wolf gun it would be a 20" 8 twist 6CM on a lone peak fusion action dropped in a manners pro hunter stock with aics 10 round mags. 105 berger hunting vld's. Enough capacity to lay the hate on multiple dogs from end of the barrel or cross canyon. Low recoil for staying on target.
Post by: lewy on February 02, 2023, 12:09:40 PM
Post by: bhawley76 on February 02, 2023, 12:22:32 PM
Post by: hunter399 on February 02, 2023, 12:41:04 PM
Funny part about the 6 creed.I FULLY support the purchase of irrational guns and ammunition :chuckle::yeah: But make it 26 inches, suppressed, and AW mags because more better.
If I was building a dedicated wolf gun it would be a 20" 8 twist 6CM on a lone peak fusion action dropped in a manners pro hunter stock with aics 10 round mags. 105 berger hunting vld's. Enough capacity to lay the hate on multiple dogs from end of the barrel or cross canyon. Low recoil for staying on target.
Is I'm getting pretty much same velocity,drops,BC, all that jazzed up stuff . With a 243. :chuckle: :chuckle:
Sure 6 creed gonna handle match bullets,long copper,Berger, a bit better based on twist .
Up to 103 grain 243 seems spin bullets just fine.
You can find it in almost all rifle manufacturers.
Post by: buckfvr on February 02, 2023, 01:16:48 PM
Now a .243 with a 7.5-8 twist will do anything the 6mmcm will with the same bullets. Loading the .243 so that the intersection of the bearing surface of the bullet and the start of the bt taper coincides with the case neck and shoulder junction AND still fits the magazine is an optimized loading for the .243 and performs as such. I know this because I actually have one set up this way.
Post by: Loup Loup on February 02, 2023, 02:06:44 PM
I don’t hunt wolves, I trap them. But a rifle is a constant carry for targets of oppertunity. I used to carry a 300 wby. But after a month I’d get lazy and leave it in the rig. Now I carry a youth model .243, although not the long range sniper it is an ideal carry for closer shots while checking traps. And I don’t leave it in the rig.
The best, most successful Wolfer I know shoots a 340 wby. Another friend of mine rolled a wolf at 7 steps with his 35 Whelen. Knocked a quarter sized price of bone out of it. We never found that wolf.
The glass is important. I’m a fixed power guy, but if I was building a wolf rifle I’d look into those fancy adjustable variables. Suppressed would be an advantage if possible, but want a rifle with a barrel longer than 26”.
I’d keep a bipod on it.
Post by: Loup Loup on February 02, 2023, 02:09:02 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 02, 2023, 02:19:44 PM
My last 6mm barrel was an 8 twist .243 with a 26" barrel. Only lasted about 6 months but was a real shooter. Maybe I need a wolf gun now 🤔 :chuckle:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 02, 2023, 02:30:40 PM
Data at the muzzle and data at 600 yards and out is not apples to oranges with a .243 with factory twist that doesnt support the long heavy higher bc bullets. BC is diminishing with velocity and if the twist doesnt support the bullet, bc will decline at a faster rate and lead to the bullet being marginally unstable at a lesser yardage than the same bullet with the correct twist barrel.My very first .243 was a short barreled 9.1 twist. Basically torched that barrel killing coyotes. Late in its life I started playing with the 105's in it. At about 900 yards it was like someone was standing out there slapping my bullets :dunno: she needed a few more rpm's for sure :chuckle:
Now a .243 with a 7.5-8 twist will do anything the 6mmcm will with the same bullets. Loading the .243 so that the intersection of the bearing surface of the bullet and the start of the bt taper coincides with the case neck and shoulder junction AND still fits the magazine is an optimized loading for the .243 and performs as such. I know this because I actually have one set up this way.
Post by: fishngamereaper on February 02, 2023, 02:53:38 PM
And there's allot of platforms to choose from.
And it was literally named for killing wolf's..... Precision Rodent Cartridge....duh... :chuckle:
Post by: mburrows on February 02, 2023, 05:12:17 PM
Post by: hunter399 on February 02, 2023, 05:19:15 PM
103 eldx .512
108 eld-m .536
Not much different on BC.
103GR is going 3050 fps out my rifle with a 22 in barrel.
In 243.
Post by: b23 on February 02, 2023, 06:49:13 PM
Post by: Mtnwalker on February 02, 2023, 08:39:38 PM
Now I'm not really much of a 25 caliber guy, but, a 25-284 slinging Berger 133's could/would make for a pretty sweet wolf getter and check all the boxes. Brass, dies, bullets, easy to get, check. Relatively light recoil, check. Can be built on a SA Rem 700, you'll want to use a Wyatt's extended mag box if you do, or Tikka with 270/30-06 bottom metal mags, check. With the right powder/s a 22in tube could launch those Berger 133's near or at 3100, check check! :tup:
:yeah: A 25 saum or prc was my first thought but this would work too!
Post by: JimmyHoffa on February 02, 2023, 08:54:39 PM
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on February 02, 2023, 08:58:19 PM
.50 BMG
That’ll do it 8). I wouldn’t worry so much about the round, more about methodology to get a shot. I’m pretty much in wolves every year I hunt elk. I hear them often but only see their glamor shots on trail cams.
Post by: LDennis24 on February 02, 2023, 09:00:05 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 02, 2023, 09:16:33 PM
Post by: Jpmiller on February 03, 2023, 06:45:55 AM
The idea of getting a new rifle for a potential wolf hunt sounds good too. The swift is my coyote gun.
Post by: LDennis24 on February 03, 2023, 06:47:00 AM
This is why I'd want large mag and quick bolt work
That's gotta be my favorite wolf video!
Just needs turtle man in the back jumping around!
"Live Action! Yee yee yee yee!" 😆
Post by: b23 on February 03, 2023, 07:02:48 AM
This is why I'd want large mag and quick bolt work
AR10 in 6CM because I know you're a huge AR fan. :tup: :chuckle:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 03, 2023, 07:22:16 AM
This is why I'd want large mag and quick bolt work
AR10 in 6CM because I know you're a huge AR fan. :tup: :chuckle:
Post by: b23 on February 03, 2023, 07:37:08 AM
Post by: Utah on February 03, 2023, 07:14:17 PM
6mm creedmoor or .243 would make a great wolf gun
Bingo!
Post by: Mulie87 on February 03, 2023, 10:58:51 PM
Post by: TeacherMan on February 03, 2023, 11:34:58 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on February 04, 2023, 02:19:00 AM
Post by: Taco280AI on February 04, 2023, 05:25:34 AM