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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: carpsniperg2 on February 10, 2023, 05:08:26 PM

Title: Help ID a old rifle cartridge
Post by: carpsniperg2 on February 10, 2023, 05:08:26 PM: My father has taken up a new hobby and metal detecting. Been finding a bunch of old brass around a few old homesteads in the Midwest. I have been able to id a lot of them but not this one.

Anyone know or have a good guess? Thought maybe 50-70 but it doesn’t have the recess ahead of the rim like the 50-70 does.
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Post by: Fidelk on February 10, 2023, 05:13:59 PM: Is it rimfire?
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Post by: Fidelk on February 10, 2023, 05:32:43 PM: https://www.ammoandguncollector.com/p/complete-list-of-all-rimfire-ammo.html
Title: Re: Help ID a old rifle cartridge
Post by: carpsniperg2 on February 10, 2023, 07:33:27 PM: I’m not sure. It has a tiny little hole where the primer pocket would be but was smaller then a primer so not sure. Has a rim and has found 32 rimfire in this area.
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Post by: wadu1 on February 10, 2023, 07:53:44 PM: Got me scratching something :). So, no head stamp or side stamp (near the bullet crimp), this hole is it near the base of the casing. One more item is it brass or copper. I'm leaning towards a pinfire, maybe a French .69. This is kind of fun, helped a gal in GB with a Eley 12-gauge pinfire.
Title: Re: Help ID a old rifle cartridge
Post by: carpsniperg2 on February 10, 2023, 08:09:59 PM: He said its brass. I think his detector indicates the type of metal. It could be a pin fire? I thought pin fire was from the side not the middle of the case from the rear like a standard primer. I have never seen anything big in the pin fire lineup. Thinking this is 50-70 cal.

I'll get a pic of the hole in the back.
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Post by: carpsniperg2 on February 10, 2023, 08:11:23 PM: Pic
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Post by: boneaddict on February 10, 2023, 08:32:48 PM: Only ones I have seen like that were WWI cartridges. Very cool!
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Post by: Jolten on February 10, 2023, 09:22:47 PM: Carp im going to make your day. Pretty sure thats WW1 12 gauge shotgun brass.
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Post by: Jolten on February 10, 2023, 09:23:18 PM: .
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Post by: Alchase on February 10, 2023, 09:28:04 PM: What a cool thread!
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Post by: wadu1 on February 10, 2023, 09:31:21 PM: Quote from: Jolten on February 10, 2023, 09:22:47 PM
Carp im going to make your day. Pretty sure thats WW1 12 gauge shotgun brass.
Seeing the primer location and being brass, I'm with @Jolten on the identification. :tup:
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Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on February 10, 2023, 09:54:30 PM: Good find Cuz Uncle!!! :tup:
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Post by: carpsniperg2 on February 10, 2023, 10:48:06 PM: Really cool guys! Thank you he will be very excited to here that.

If he finds more I’ll share for sure.
Title: Re: Help ID a old rifle cartridge
Post by: boneaddict on February 11, 2023, 07:49:33 AM: Quote from: Jolten on February 10, 2023, 09:22:47 PM
Carp im going to make your day. Pretty sure thats WW1 12 gauge shotgun brass.
:tup:
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Post by: JimmyHoffa on February 11, 2023, 08:30:38 AM: 12 gauge is bigger than that. Maybe 20?
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Post by: GWP on February 11, 2023, 08:33:20 AM: I was just going to say that is what it was!
Ok, not really. I had no idea. 😄
Cool thread though!
Title: Re: Help ID a old rifle cartridge
Post by: Fidelk on February 11, 2023, 09:54:59 AM: Scroll down on the link with the list and click on "shotgun".......it lists 12, 16, 20 and 28 ga. pinfires.
Title: Re: Help ID a old rifle cartridge
Post by: salish on February 11, 2023, 10:38:31 AM: Looks too short to be a shotgun shell.